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– 48


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5! -nt-

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 9:40AM EST (link)

-nt-

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

Shortest diary ever.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 9:41AM EST (link)

And quite possibly one of the best.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

Had to reco'

Steph C (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 9:58AM EST (link)

Couldn’t help it. Short, sweet, and to the point.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

 

Sometimes, you just don't have to say much to make a point.

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 10:01AM EST (link)

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

Brevity Is The Key To Good Communication

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 1:33PM EST (link)

And commuication is a problem for Republicans.

Down with paragraph limits for diaries. Up with effective communication

 

I see your no

Jack_Savage (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 1:35PM EST (link)

And raise you a “hell no”.

 

Concise, yet unambiguous.

Canthros (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 2:08PM EST (link)

Rather politer than I’d have gone, though.

This too shall pass.

 

"Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared screaming defiance with the last breath..."

tcgeol (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 2:13PM EST (link)

Robert Jordan wrote a great political vow in that war cry.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

Even the Left admits we’re Right

 

couple questions

Fotones_de_Akba Thursday, November 13th at 8:59AM EST (link)

first, Neil: I don’t understand the 52/48 thing, please explain (sorry)

second, tcgeol: where’s that SHADE quote from?

third, everybody: I’m unclear about what NT means (nice try? as in “you’re almost right but not quite”? )or does it mean something else?)

nt = no text

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 1:07PM EST (link)

as in, my subject line was my whole statement.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

52/48

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 1:55PM EST (link)

Some pathetic lefties have started a campaign of messages from ’52′ (the Obama share of the elctorate) to ’48′ (the McCain share).

They want us all to get along. They want us to help them. They remember how they acted in 2000 and 2004, and they don’t want their comeuppance.

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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder

It also means "Night Twister"

NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 2:06PM EST (link)

When I first started at RS I thought everyone was talking to me. :-)

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

52/48 & NT

CFPeterson (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 4:46PM EST (link)

52/48 was the breakdown of the popular vote in the presidential election.

NT means “no text”, i.e. when a message is left intentionally blank.

 
 
 
 
 

To comment on this would be to attempt to gild the lily

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 5:11PM EST (link)

So I won’t ;o)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

Alternatively, "Nuts!"

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 5:26PM EST (link)

But I think somebody used that one already…

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

Or better yet, the original quote,

Achance (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 5:44PM EST (link)

“Merde” or its English equivalent.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

Thanks Moe

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 5:55PM EST (link)

Looks like your link pushed me on the Rec List, heh.

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Something like this...

Erick Brockway (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 7:18PM EST (link)

”Dear 48,
In the spirit of bi-partisanship we extend our hand of friendship.
Let bygones be bygones.
ps. Resistance is futile.
Prepare to be assimilated.
That is all! We love you!”

There we go (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 7:18PM EST (link)

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the SHADE quote is from "The Wheel of Time"

Fotones_de_Akba Thursday, November 13th at 7:22PM EST (link)

Thanks everybody for your quick responses.

I googled the SHADE quote.
“The Wheel of Time” is a fantasy series by Robert Jordan. The Aiel are a desert people whose warrior culture resembles Japanese bushido (in the emphasis on shame and honor).

Here’s the full Aiel quote.

Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the last Day.

about the World of Time quote

Fotones_de_Akba Thursday, November 13th at 7:30PM EST (link)

sorry, Tcgeol, I now see that you had mentioned Robert Jordan in your text box

when I first read it this morning, I had no idea who Jordan was, I thought he was a Republican staffer or something like that. See ya.

stiull not getting what 52-48 has to do

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:00PM EST (link)

with how the bushlied left has acted since 2000.

talk to me like I’m a five year old

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

What 52/48 has to with BushLied

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:09PM EST (link)

The “52″ people are asking us “48″ people to make nice with them, to unite, and to join them in “getting things done.” That is, getting the Obama radical agenda done.

They’re asking us to do everything they didn’t do.

I say no. I’m not giong to have a psychotic break like they did, but I’m not going to help the socialist buddy of terrorists promote infanticide.

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I'm glad to hear it.

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, January 20th at 6:08PM EST (link)

I’m also glad to report that I, too, didn’t know about 52/48. HOPEfully, that means my political withdrawal is progressing smoothly.

I just stopped by to see what was up. I notice that you must be having a ton of readers and writers today–slow again.

I see no reason to extend any olive branches to Democrats who haven’t reciprocated Bush’s many attempts to make nice with them. I don’t believe I’ll go so far as to fabricate stories about the Left, as they do about us, simply because the “uncommitted” (that we are assured exist) need to know that they can trust our word when they finally realize that the word from the left is self-serving and untrustworthy.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Me Likey.

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:14PM EST (link)

52-48

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:16PM EST (link)

That was one game – the season will never end.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

Mike - adamsweb had a diary re: this subject

Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:21PM EST (link)

Perhaps Neil can link to it to bring everyone up to speed. Within the diary there was a link to a website that showed pictures of the Dear 48 crowd, which will shed a little more light on things. adamsweb commented that he thought the sentiment was sweet. I took a different view.

You can view my reaction to it, as well as many others, among the comments.

Thanks Neil, but I think the whole issue requires more detail and nuance, which GC (LINK)

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:47PM EST (link)

will provide soon. I already addressed this in part, esp with respect to foreign policy below, but will go into great detail on this weekend.

We have one President at a time

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Thanks Jack, I found it-nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 8:52PM EST (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 
 
 

A big NOOOOO!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 10:57PM EST (link)

We need to pick a new Quarterback now...

Erick Brockway (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 11:39PM EST (link)

…primary season could effectively start in just two years. Toss the old playbook, we already have theirs memorized.
Where’s our Lombardi?
QB up!
Game on.

Elway in 2012!

CFPeterson (Diary) Friday, November 14th at 9:05AM EST (link)

Is John Elway going to be the new Jack Kemp?

 
 
 

Brilliant and pithy, I love it!

ToddH (Diary) Friday, November 14th at 9:23AM EST (link)

nt

“Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That’s why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American.”–General George S. Patton.

 

Dear 52...

furious (Diary) Friday, November 14th at 11:53AM EST (link)

Mutual, I’m sure.

–furious

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.” — Darth Vader

 

Dear 52 (update)...

furious (Diary) Friday, November 14th at 1:06PM EST (link)

…I take it back.

–furious

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.” — Darth Vader

 

Not even if you apologize

Lammo (Diary) Friday, November 14th at 1:13PM EST (link)

for the last 8 years, which I know you will never do, so, the NOs have it!

Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)

send some

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 7:15AM EST (link)

Yep, we bantered that about on a few other discussions… Still think we should be flooding the WH with them on 1/20/09.

WE WILL NOT RETURN TO THESE DAYS (Democrat weakness):

Byron MacGregor (Canadian) “Stand Up America” 1979

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 

a "suck on these" implied message, send Barack some Peanuts

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 8:10AM EST (link)

Salty ones, of course. lol

Seriously though. Mentioned it above in a reply, but wanted to expand the thought. The “NUTS” concept works on a few levels. I hope you’ll join me in sending some Peanuts to the WH on 1/20/09 to soon arrive thereafter.

Sends the McAuliffe “NUTS” message and ties-back to Jimmy Carter to boot. Perhaps we can get NutsOnline involved, like they were for the Jericho project (see Michelle Malkin blog here). Anyone have a good email address to get her attention on this!?!?

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 

My response to the 52 started with my checkbook

Craigpennsylvania (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 9:46AM EST (link)

The following organizations have seen substantial contributions from my businesses over the last 2 decades. Most of these organizations sided with the “52″ this year.

I have informed each and every one, using (paraphrasing here, as each response was different, based on the exact activities) their behaviour as a guide, that we will no longer support their organizations.

The City Mission-shelters
The Food Banks
The United Way
American Cancer-Heart … etc … societies.

And a variety of other charities …

The basics of the letter I sent each …

*Dear Sir/Madam:

Ww have supported your causes for many years, but this year, we have declined to continue with our support.

The American people – or 52%, to be exact, have decided that business owners are the problem in our country, and we need to be punished with confiscatory taxes. We were even told that our current tax rate of 37.9 % by the Federal Government alone was not enough, and that we can expect the Federal government to start taking 50-60% of our hard work, in order to give our hard earned money to those who did not earn it.

Further, by voting against this increase, we were told by our newly elected president that we are “selfish”.

As the majority of the American People decided that government was the solution, and that private business was the problem, we are bowing to their wishes.

We wish you the best of luck in getting the required funding for your organization from the Federal Government.

Best Regards,

Craigpennsylvania*

Every business owner I know has severely cut back on charitable giving since 11-04. It is not going to be a good year for charities. Perhaps, in the future, there will be an appreciation for what businesses do for our communities. In the mean time, this is but one weapon we have to fight this trend towards socialism

The response I have gotten back from some of these organizatons led to a phone call. I heard many exclaim thoughts along this line:

I had no idea that the new taxes would hit businesses so hard.

Great response.

NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 10:33AM EST (link)

Unfortunately, this is going to be the norm in the country for awhile.

When businesses give, the charities get most or all of the funds directly. The government will keep/waste at least half of the taxes they collect for these organizations.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 
 

Dear 52 (final update)...

furious (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 11:00AM EST (link)

…an Elephant never forgets.

–furious

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.” — Darth Vader

The Power of No,

redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 11:07AM EST (link)

Somehow I believe complete federal Democrat rule and its economic and other consequences will have a salutory effect in concentrating the electorate’s minds.

Craig, you have it right, and you are not alone.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

To kowalski

NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 11:31AM EST (link)

This doesn’t even take into consideration all the businesses that will have to close their doors due to the tax increases.

Not only will they no longer be making charitable contributions, but the former employees won’t either. Unemployment insurance doesn’t even pay the bills.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

NutsOnline response, No They Won't

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 6:47PM EST (link)

They were polite about it, but I’m suspecting the responder to be an ObamaNut… and here I thought they were supposed to respond “YES WE CAN” to everything!?!?!

At least they did respond! They didn’t even say that they’d be happy to receive/process an individual order to send though.

This “NUTS” thing is still a “cheaper” protest than my other thought… Sending him a “BOOT.” ;-) Maybe I should’ve emailed Tom McCann?

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

Perfect response...

besilentnomore (Diary) Sunday, November 16th at 2:03AM EST (link)

…this is my plan as well to all the requests I get for charitable contributions.

The Lord will continue to get my 10%, as well as the ASPCA and the Humane Society (since these are animal charities and probably won’t count under Obama’s plan), but no one else…not for awhile anyway.

http://besilentnomore.blogspot.com/

It was my understanding....

simple Sunday, November 16th at 5:42PM EST (link)

… that the top marginal tax rate would be increased to ~39% (the same as under Clinton)?

Remember that the current and proposed rates are very low by 20th century US standards – they were 70% under Nixon, and higher.

Simple

Craigpennsylvania (Diary) Sunday, November 16th at 6:10PM EST (link)

Simple, Your understanding is quite incorrect. Obama started with a position that the upper income earners would see their rates go to 39.6% plus this income would be subject to Social Security taxes, which are 12.4 % when the employer’s portion is added.

When one considers the fact that anyone who is paying social social security at the current highest rate ($102,000 in 2008) will ultimately receive a NEGATIVE return on “investment” in order to fund the retirement for lower income earners, the tax Obama wishes to place on incomes over $250,000 is just that – a surtax.

He later said he would only go to 4% – which is 8% when the employer match is added.

This means the top rate would be at least 47.9 %.

Yes, during the 70′s, the top marginal rate was 70%, but all of the following was deductible, which isn’t today.

All interest payments, All Sales Taxes, All business Dinners, All Club Dues, The per child deduction … etc …

Much less income was subject to taxation, as so much was deductible.

Ditto, Jack. n/t

c17wife (Diary) Monday, November 17th at 8:06AM EST (link)

n/t

Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence

 
 

Not that simple, is it?

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, January 20th at 6:19PM EST (link)

Just because anything is lower than 70% doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.

Obama has stated that he wants to increase rates, even if it means lower revenues. That means he wants to punish, not to improve our balance sheet.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964