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California Election Returns Open Thread

By: Neil Stevens (Diary)  |  May 19th, 2009 at 11:08 PM  | 

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The Secretary of State has the returns as they come in, now that the polls are closed.

In addition to the budget slate on the ballot we have US House district 32′s primary election to replace Hilda Solis, who was nominated by the President to be Secretary of Labor.

There’s also the general election for State Senate district 26, to replace Mark Ridley-Thomas, a former LA City Councilman who has now gone on to win a seat on the LA County Board of Supervisors.

Open Thread.

8:19PM Pacific Update: I’ll get in one update before bed: early returns looking excellent (as always… sigh). Only SF County is passing 1A. Only 1F is passing, because it’s the only one that isn’t part of the Democrat shell game. Now I just need those results and the Lakers to find a way to win tonight…

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  • scarlos

    1A-E are all failing, with 1b the only one with over 40% of the vote (40.8)

    1F is 75-25 Yes, so It’s probably a sure win.

  • Aaron Gardner

    tight game….go Lakers….even though I am a Suns fan…but lets not talk about that.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    And “Stop Snitching” Melo misses a free throw…

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  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    He gets so pumped whenever the Lakers’ opponent does well, but when the Lakers do well… he finds ways to priase the other team anyway.

    Last series, every time Kobe made a great shot, this clown would go on and on about… Shane Battier.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
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  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    But I’m as good a Lakers hater as the next guy.

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  • Josh LeGuern

    Gosh, I remember loving Arnold Schwarzenegger, when he put up a group of bold five ballot initiatives in 2005 that would have really changed the state for the better, but because of the Democratic machine here in California, a weak state GOP, and Arnold’s unpopularity at the time, they all went down in flames.

    Then Arnold morphed into a liberal over the last four years, could this trigger a fiscally conservative Ahhhnold? I doubt it. Then again, you never know!

  • Uma Richie

    For the second time since 20 Jan, tonight I was subjected to an Obama Talking Points Regurgitator.

    The first time was at a convenience store in late Jan. An Obamabot was bending the ear of the patient, but annoyed, clerk loudly enough for all in the store to hear what a great guy Obama is…how he’s so sincere…how he’s the real deal. Nothing of substance, just cultish proselytizing.

    This evening, I took my pint-sized entourage to McDonald’s. While we were eating, a septuagenarian abandoned his wife at their table to talk to a friend whom he hadn’t seen since last year. He talked very loudly, just like the guy at the convenience store, and his friend listened politely, just like the clerk at the convenience store. The Obamabot didn’t say much of substance just that Bush was dumb but had street smarts, and Cheney is too smart and that’s why he won’t shut up. (Sounded like recent talking points to me.) Then he said that Obama is a good guy and is trying to make things better, but that “Congress won’t let him.” (No mention of either party.)

    Anyway, it occurred to me that many Obamabots are loyal enough to throw everyone else under the bus, including the Democrats in Congress, if it would somehow save Obama’s image.

    Maintaining self-control under the “argue with a fool…” law, I did not interject; however, when the guy mentioned that he had “stopped breathing for three minutes” in the hospital last month, I was close to pointing out that lack of oxygen causes brain damage.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • mbecker908
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Remember when he called conservatives ‘right-wing crazies?’

    Remember when he sided with Clinton over impeachment?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    And so won’t see the playoffs for a while :-)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    This is a close game :-)

  • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

    seconds left!
    Polls closed and the Props going down in flames!
    Ahhh what a night

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    It’s not in the refrigerator, but if Kobe hits both of these free throws…

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Maybe he’ll put his finger in the wind…

    Maybe you have a point. We can certainly hope.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Blah.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Fouling to prevent the three is something I find highly distasteful.

    I wish there were a rule change that could fix it.

  • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

    Bassaball seems to have become more strategy.
    I never liked the “taking the knee” play in football in the last minute to kill the clock.

  • Cheryl

    for the discount price of $21 billion.

  • avgamerican

    if it were possible. I think Obamabots or sheep as I call them are as much a threat to this country as any outside threat.

  • avgamerican

    in nocal more all the time.

  • http://janicecantore.com Janice Cantore

    Sometimes I feel as though I’m living in another dimension. While I’m happy to see the props failing, I know this means nothing to a liberal. They are ten times as tenacious as leeches. Facts do not disuade them from their mission. The democrat machine here is, I’m certain, in a room somewhere, working on spin, probably with Obama’s speech writer, to make this appear a victory for their policies, and/or Bushs fault. At any rate NOTHING WILL CHANGE. The unions OWN this state. If anyone wonders what the country will look like now that the unions have the Whitehouse and Congress in their firm grip, just look at California.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We had both houses and the Governor’s seat in 1994.

    Things change quickly.

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  • Cheryl

    it’s now. I was young but I remember the outrage of the citizens of this state. I was reminded of it last week when driving back from the CV to the bay area on I5. “Congress Created Dust Bowl” all up and down the interstate. The relationship betw farmers and Sac officials is icy.

  • bobojake

    The election in California I think is the the begining of the worm turning and we just have to keep fightin the Conservative battle and we will throw out the thug Marxists 2010.
    Giving the democrats credit where credit is due is very important. Scummmer, reid and peloski can’t be let to go out shooting their lies without conservative getting the truth out even before ried, schummmmer and peloski run before the media.
    obama Geithner and the democrats killing the auto industry.
    obama, Gethner schummmmmmmmmmmmer and dodd killing the banking industry.
    It appears most propostion in California are running againstSchwarzenegger by 60% to 40% which is just about where obama would lose an election today with anybody but McCain running against the the foney fraud Marxist.

  • mbecker908

    before you make rash projections…

  • 6eorge Jetson

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    They tried to phrase 1A in a way that would gain support from the Right and Left by balancing more taxes with a weak spending cap.

    Instead they alienated both sides and ended up fighting an impossible war on two fronts, The 1C-1E went down because people realized the violation of process in this stealing money from restricted funds.

    Big loser – the education unions, who were offered IB in result for their big bucks support. That horse trade went down in flames too.

    So now the legislature has got to do its job – only it’s several more wasted months and now faces a “sinkhole that swallowed LA” size deficit. Not going to be fun.

    We know that the left is going to try to repeal the 2/3rds budget provision in the next election.

    But in the meanwhile, the voters have put an end to the latest budgetary mischief.

  • $peciallist

    I forgot about that ad…lol…

    and…I mailed my ballot..as the mail-in ballots come in…it will be a Rout ..

    Do over, Aanold

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    The Governator greatly upset me (over many things many times, but really really so this time) with his sounding like Democrats [I expect these extortion tactics from them, we're getting it here in MI with Gran(munist)holm] and going on about how Police, Fire, Garbage service, School days shortened, etc…. will all have to be cut …. it is ALL BS in an attempt to EXTORT Tax increases from the citizens and ward off actual and real Fiscally-responsible Cuts/Reductions in so many wasteful Govt agencies…..

    As an aside, and in using the same tactics to avoid legislation against Credit Card rule regulation changes, Banks are THREATENING (Extortion tactics) to raise the Annual Fees, Cut peoples lines of Credit, saying you won’t get your free toaster, no more Frequent Flyer Miles programs, and on and on and on, in order to forestall any crackdown on their pathetic APR games they play!!! This is NOT Government spending programs, so even if they do raise some fees not capped by new regulations and drop some incentive programs…. THEY WILL GO BACK LATER….. It’s called competition….. They will again fight each other for your business, don’t be fooled by this short term changes they will impose to EXTORT your support for their right to rip-off your fellow citizens in APR, and other, fine print! They can and DO make money behind the transactions in fees charged to Merchants for equipment and in per transaction hold-back.

    Back to the main point… Governator, you should be ashamed of yourself. This was/is a GREAT OPPORTUNITY for you to DECLARE VICTORY FOR YOUR ORIGINAL DAYS AS GOVERNOR AND WANTING CUTS!!!!! The citizens are speaking and saying you must make cuts…. If you would have held the line on the Conservative ideals, you would have had the moral high-ground, but you pissed it away by taking the EXTORTION low-road and sounding like your wife… er…. Democrats…..

    When the Taxes are voted down… you have all the proof you need that citizens in even the most Liberal CA – DEMAND CUTS AND A SENSIBLE BUDGET – FOR A CHANGE!!!!!!

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    If there was ANY day to be camped out with all the Tea Party gear it was today in CA… people should have drove in from the surrounding States….. It would have made for some great potential momentum and FOXnews imagery.

    And let’s not forget about going forward….

    Plan to attend a TEApeat July 4, 9/12, Thanksgiving, etc…

    ReTeaParty (for 4th of July) site

    Contact the other sites and urge them to organize for the subsequent dates also:
    09/12/09 DC Tax Protest
    Tax Day Tea Party site with Daily email update signup
    Tea Party Revolution site
    FreedomWorks
    Alliance Defense Fund

  • $peciallist

    missed Work from last Tea-party…ha

    I voted NO x 6…..we did pretty well…

    next head to Roll is the Aanold’s..

  • IJB

    You *raze* it to the ground, and start over.

    I’ll bring the lighter fluid!!

  • IJB

    I’ve tried looking around, but I don’t see anything…

  • $peciallist

    and we all know how your Eyes are failing….

    I know a great ophthalmologist that specializes in working with Referees…..call me

  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    I understand the GOP is planning on being the the party of ‘new ideas’ sometime in the next few years. I was wondering if maybe George Soros is paying their salaries. (I understand it’s my responsibility to build the party). I heard yet another GOP wimp on the radio tonight, an interview with a longtime functionary, speechwriter, etc. Mark something on Steve Malzberg’s show. His main point was that whew, wow, it’s really tough to do or say anything right now because Obama is so popular. Says the GOP will get things going in a few years. But was quite clear and concise on matters about which the GOP should praise Obama. While I’m joining the cavalry, I’d like to offer a free idea to the GOP that has nothing to do with social conservatives. Stop saying how popular Obama is. Unless of course you’re working for him. He’s killing us and all these guys can do is say golly it’s so tough. Malzberg played audio of Megan McCain being a disgrace and a tragedy and the GOP guy wouldn’t say one word against what she said. He reluctantly said something like the media really shouldn’t be putting people such as Ms. McCain in the spotlight. So, Obama is popular and we are defenseless against Megan McCain. I can only conclude Soros is funding the GOP.

  • scarlos

    All but 1b were rejected in EVERY COUNTY (with Los Angles coming in unexpectedly strong against them).

    1b Passed by less than 5% in Santa Clara, San Francisco, and Alameda Counties, and was rejected everywhere else.

    All got less than 40% support statewide.

    Meanwhile, 1f Passed with 75% of the vote everywhere.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    with all the No-Backbone talk of …. well, we need to give him a chance… BS…. I want my leaders to be with the FAIL language and when he does FAIL by either not getting policies through (best for everyone) or his policies he does get through FAIL…. we will be proven to have been right with all the warnings we gave them they FAILed to understand/grasp in time….. and that they will return to us in droves in order to overturn all of Obama’s FAILINGS. How Obama’s FAILURES are the country’s SUCCESSES – since we have to spell it out

  • bk

     

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit
  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    they only vote down measures like this when they are feeling real pain from the bad economy. (It doesn’t help matters that you have a big stinking liberal as governor who calls himself a republican).

    Just as soon as things improve they will go back to voting for more big government that they can’t pay for. Like a dog returning to it’s own vomit.

    Of course they might stay on the straight and narrow a little bit longer if there were real conservative (or at least libertarian) leadership coming from a consistent and articulate Republican party, constantly explaining to them that the government is not their friend.

    But in order to do that the Republican party has to be filled with actual conservatives.

  • bk

    Why should we raise OUR taxes? Let’s just get some free stimulus money instead.

  • mbecker908

    Republicans stood firm, Pawlenty threatened a veto of new taxes and more state spending.

    MN has a law that limits the legislative session and another that requires a balanced budget. The Dems drew a line in the sand on spending, programs and taxes with a big backhoe and passed a budget that made all three go way up. Pawlenty waited until the last minute of the last day and vetoed it. The law now gives Pawlenty the ability to impose a budget on the state with no vote and not even a review by the State Legislature.

    Keep in mind that MN is a very liberal state (like CA) and the Republicans in the state can best be described as squishy, Collins/Snowe lookalikes who like conflict about as much as GWB. Including Pawlenty. (See CA)

    These people are “moderates”. Yet they stood up and won one for The Gipper.

  • Karina

    Now that these measures failed, the only thing left for CA to do is turn to the Savior and get a bailout. They will take the choice away from the citizens of that state because obviously they don’t understand enough to know what’s good for them. The legislators can’t (won’t) make any cuts. Just watch for the O to step in and “save” California. Then it will be Michigan, Ohio, and on and on until there are no more “states”. The problem is the laws of CA. They aren’t allowed to raise taxes like they want to.

    “Chris Lehane, a Democratic party strategist and former press adviser to Al Gore, said the special election ?really underscores that California state government is so structurally flawed that it is ungovernable?.

    The state government is continually deadlocked because legislators in need a two thirds majority to raise new taxes. ?There is no clearer sign of how these structural issues?have hurt California then by looking at the state?s public education system, which has gone from first to worst in a generation,? he added.”
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/352d96b2-44a8-11de-82d6-00144feabdc0.html

    Isn’t it ironic that Reagan was governor a generation ago?

  • 6eorge Jetson

    Whether the MSM’s “blindness” is a conspiracy, wishful thinking, or a focus on the rearview mirror, it is focusing on the weeding out of individuals.

    What the MSM is not recognizing is that the conservative and movement is getting stronger and more determined. Of course, I’m sure the buggy whip industry had its proponents back in the early days of the automobile. As long as the movement and message stays true to conservative principles, leaders will emerge.

  • Spartan4Life

    There are already $Billions in the Porkulus that are being funnelled to liberal states like California that just can’t seem to help themselves when it comes to controlling government spending. Others that come to mind are vote rich New York, New Jersey, Illinois, etc.

    Obama and Congress will end up bailing these states out. The price tag? Just like with the banks, it will be the feds calling the shots. They will own these states and our constitution will have been destroyed. I have no sympathy for the greedy, grubby people Californians and other Americans have become. Voting for handouts at the expense of freedom is despicable.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Members of Congress know that many of their own hides are at risk in 2010 even if Obama’s isn’t.