With all the talk lately that we should be ready to take pictures of Democrat wrongdoings, I’m wondering if I should get a camera myself. My Blackberry can take pictures, but the pictures it takes would be too blurry to be of much use in a political scrap.
So, I put it to the crowd: What are the options? Is it possible to get sharp pictures below the DSLR level? If so, what do I look for, since I do know enough to know that the resolution of the sensor is only one part of the story quality, so just comparing ‘megapixel’ ratings on displays isn’t nearly enough. What do I avoid? What are the tradeoffs? is video capturing worthwhile to have as a priority, or is the quality too bad to bother? Am I better off just buying an HD video camera that can take pictures?
If I were to buy a low-range DSLR, what do I look for? What do I avoid? Again, is video worth considering?
And of course, I may not be the only one of us thinking along these lines.
Open Thread.

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Repair_Man_Jack Wednesday, August 12th at 10:13PM EDT (link)Cheap POS is your best bet. Any typical camera will do the job, unless you want to film the Moonbats being really stupid. It’s not hard to scan the photos in later. most developement places will hook you up with that.
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Neil Stevens Wednesday, August 12th at 10:22PM EDT (link)I just would hate to take some politically useful picture, but then have it be of insufficient quality to prove the case of what I saw happen.
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Repair_Man_Jack Wednesday, August 12th at 10:28PM EDT (link)Just trying to save you a few dollars. How far away were you planning on being?
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I'm not sure
Neil Stevens Wednesday, August 12th at 10:33PM EDT (link)Just gathering info.
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TNJim Thursday, August 13th at 3:25AM EDT (link)Cheap may be the way to go. If a fracas with SEIU or other such thugs break out the last thing you want is a brand new multi-hundred camera to get trashed. Many of the less expensive cameras can take video, the capacity limited by the size memory card you get for it.
Woo_girl has it right in her comment. One that can fit in the palm of your hand like the Kodaks and Canons mentioned below I think would be the way to go here.
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I'll comment on the video
Dave_in_Fla Wednesday, August 12th at 10:21PM EDT (link)Taking pictures with a video camera is not a good idea, unless you use an HD camera. However, with an HD, you can pull any frame out of the video get very nice results.
But HD video has a whole additional set of issues. You need editing software, higher performance system, etc, etc.
I don’t recommend going the video route unless you are doing it to work with video. If you want pictures, buy a camera.
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Don't need a "video camera" per se
gensec Thursday, August 13th at 6:02AM EDT (link)A lot of hand-size digital cameras also can shoot video, and it’s a good option to have.
If you want to capture a moonbat with some over the top sign, a good still shot is better than video. But for other cases showing progressives gone wild, video is far superior. Take for instance the Tampa Bay town hall where an Obama supporter apparently slapped a protestor. The still photo is good, but video would have been far more convincing.
Some of the comments below recommend Canon Power Shots. Maybe there are other cameras as good and/or better deals (I haven’t researched it), but the point is you can get good video or still shots depending on what’s best for the situation. I can say that for sure, because I saw what you can get out of a Canon PowerShot SD750 at
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Click the HQ button at the lower right of the video to see the resolution.
No the video isn’t about Obamacare, but it shows the quality you can shoot with a camera smaller than a smart phone. (for Neil, smaller than an iPhone
Of course the detail would be far better if you shot a still photo with the same camera, but even if you captured a frame from the video (like if you click pause in the video) it still is good enough for documenting left lunacy. Wouldn’t you rather have a video at that quality of the Tampa Bay slapper instead of the still shot?
So I’d say get a small camera that can also do video, and shoot whichever is best for the situation.
Oops, left out the youtube link
gensec Thursday, August 13th at 6:06AM EDT (link)… of video quality (click the HQ button) for a hand size Canon Powershot camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey8Ui63VgHs
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gensec Thursday, August 13th at 6:16AM EDT (link)And whatever camera you get, separately buy a much larger memory card than comes with the camera if you expect to shoot video with it.
Personally...
Woo_girl Wednesday, August 12th at 10:24PM EDT (link)I wouldn’t bring a good camera to a rally. There are gonna be bad guys who may want to hit you and as a result hit your nice camera as well. A DSLR will be big and bulky (there are NO small ones) and be a better target for them.
Be discrete, carry something small. Go with a Canon, they come in all sorts of price ranges. I don’t care for video. I would go with something that can shoot fast and many frames at a time. If you want to catch them this is better than video since quality is not so hot in the cameras and don’t even think of taking pictures with a video camera, plus you’re looking at a higher investment in one of those.
So go with highest mega-pixel you can,find, one that has a fast turn around speed and I think you’re good to go. Stay away from DSLR cause it makes you an easier target to hit!
Good point on the targets (nt)
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The big issue is response time
Dave_in_Fla Wednesday, August 12th at 10:40PM EDT (link)The time it takes to be ready to take a picture and then turn around time to take the next picture is probably your biggest issue.
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Cannon
SteveLA Wednesday, August 12th at 10:31PM EDT (link)Take a wander over to your local WalMart and check out the Cannon line of Power Shot cameras.
From a low end of around $100 to ~$250 for a pretty decent point and shooter. Throw in another $20 for a SD memory card, they come with a small one but you’ll want more on line storage and some rechargeable batteries.
Watch the mega pixels, more is better, image stabilization is handy for shooting long distance.
Lastly, Steve’s Camera review, good resource, and no I’m not that Steve.
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Canon are nice
Richard Mullins Wednesday, August 12th at 10:36PM EDT (link)but so are Nikons. I’m amazed that my dad likes his Nikon L100 as much as his A620.
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Nikon also good
SteveLA Wednesday, August 12th at 10:42PM EDT (link)Here’s another site, Fry’s Ad’s that summarizes what’s in the newspaper advertisements.
There’s a Cannon on sale this week by the way that looks pretty good. You can use the other site that I gave you to read reviews and such.
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GreyCloak Thursday, August 13th at 5:11AM EDT (link)A friend who is a professional photographer (he even owns a Hasselblad) long ago recommended Nikon point-and-shoots for this amateur … I have never been disappointed since.
Their all-in-one zoom cameras should be sufficient (my daughter is happy with hers) … My fancier (and more expensive) SLR provides the advantage of switchable lenses … you can zero in on a t-shirt logo from a safe distance with a 70-300 zoom lens … but the lens is bulky. You can also capture a chameleon on a palm leaf from 50 feet.
My Medill journalist wife liked Minoltas … Canons are also good. Just remember: if you get a lens-adaptable camera, you are stuck with the brand.
If you insist on digital, get as many mega-pixels as you can afford (5 is probably more than sufficient) … remember that a JPEG or other image will use much fewer, and e-mails will condense pictures even more.
Don’t forget that you can get a 35mm FILM camera for a lot less … maybe even find one at a pawn shop … just about everybody will still develop film and give you both pictures and a disc the same day. You can’t Photoshop negatives easily, should you ever need to verify a shot.
For the camera buffs, I might mention that I once took pictures at F18.9 with a 40-inch aperture and an hour’s exposure. But for local pics, I remain an amateur.
Don't forget Fry's
SteveLA Wednesday, August 12th at 10:37PM EDT (link)Friday LA Times, sports section? Always has a pretty good selection of cameras too, and no self respecting technical junkie, like me, can resist a trip to the gadget junkie heaven known as Fry’s.
Just don’t take anything with the Fr’s “Seal of Approval”, aka returned, opened, inspected and put back in stock goods.
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I managed to pick up an open box Casio over at
Richard Mullins Wednesday, August 12th at 10:46PM EDT (link)one of the Houston Fry’s(when it comes to Cat 5, Altex is better). I happen to like Friday’s with the circular in the Houston Chronicle. Nice stuff in there.
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Canon Power Shot
10ksnooker Wednesday, August 12th at 10:37PM EDT (link)Cheap, like under $125 from Walmart or other place. No point in buying better you never know when the mob will get violent.
A pocket camera is best. Just put in a big media card so you can do limited video.
Canon Power Shot best camera for the money. nt
redneck_hippie Wednesday, August 12th at 10:42PM EDT (link)“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
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manfred Wednesday, August 12th at 10:52PM EDT (link)They have the best prices than anywhere I have seen. I highly recomend the Canon Power Shot.
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Get a 10 Mega Pixel that can do video as well
Gmac Wednesday, August 12th at 10:54PM EDT (link)I bought a Samsung for ~200.00 total Saturday, and that’s with a 3 yr no questions asked extended warrantee that means if it gets stomped flat by a goonion thug, meh. It will do 2 hours of 640×480 @30 FPS video with audio on an 8 Gb memory card and has anti shake stabilization so I’m all set to go to a greenhouse (TH) event.
Odds are really long that Parker Griffin will stay in hiding though.
All you'll ever need Neil...
mbecker908 Wednesday, August 12th at 10:54PM EDT (link)Where's the USB connector? (nt)
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The new ones are all wireless.
Socrates Wednesday, August 12th at 10:57PM EDT (link)Sheesh, keep up, dude.
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YAY!
GreyCloak Thursday, August 13th at 4:06AM EDT (link)That was a good camera!!! Thanks for reminding us.
Wait, how did I wind up on Slashdot?
Socrates Wednesday, August 12th at 10:56PM EDT (link)(sorry)
Anyway, I’m looking for a new camera, too. My old one works, but it’s aging and sucks the batteries dry quicker than Obama changes his story.
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Neil Stevens Thursday, August 13th at 10:02AM EDT (link)Fascist globowarmo comments draw bans, not +5 (Insightful) moderation.
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Canon Powershot or Kodak Easyshare
Darin_H Wednesday, August 12th at 11:00PM EDT (link)I would choose a camera that has a lens that moves in/out (so you can have manual zoom and not just digital zoom). I wouldn’t go with a video camera, even HD video. Unless the light is really good, still pictures aren’t nearly as good as a still camera, but the still camera can have video that works in a pinch with just the flip of a switch.
We had a Kodak Easyshare 883 (until my wife dropped it on the tile floor….) and the still pictures were good (not DSLR good, but decent), and the video was good for a point & shoot. We also own a Canon HD video camera, but the still pictures aren’t as good - video is great, especially for videos sent to grandparents.
Anyways, I recommend the Easyshare, you can get good pictures, but also video if you need it, plus the battery life was incredible.
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izoneguy Wednesday, August 12th at 11:01PM EDT (link)Great DSLR - 12 megapixel
and does 720p HD video.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/615725-REG/Nikon_25454_D5000_Digital_SLR_Camera.html
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I'm sure you've seen some of the pictures I've taken at events
Brian Simpson Thursday, August 13th at 2:46AM EDT (link)and I certainly don’t have a fancy camera.
I’ve got a Canon PowerShot S2 IS. It’s only 5 megapixels with a 12X digital zoom. I’ve had the camera for about four years and the only time I haven’t been happy with it is when I forgot to clean the lens and my pictures turned out blurry.
For video, I would stick with a cheap camera unless you intend to put out high quality, fully-edited stuff. For the typical point and shoot stuff I would recommend going with a Flip video camera. They are cheap, small and pretty easy to use.
Like Dave said higher up, if you really want to get into the video thing big time, you can find smaller HD cameras. You will need some serious hardware and software to do the editing and production though.
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FlipVideo, Casio Exilim 9.1 mega pixels, Blackberry Curve
ColdWarrior Thursday, August 13th at 3:03AM EDT (link)I use a FlipVideo that has 25 minutes worth of capacity for digital video. About $89 on sale in March 2008.
If I use that up, I then switch to the Casio, which shoots pretty good video (actually, I think it’s better than the FlipVideo, but the FV is easier to use overall). And, the Casio takes still photos (but, not very good ones — I should probably read the manual). About $100 on sale in Dec. 2008.
As a backup, I use my Blackberry Curve. Take pretty good photos and shoots grainy video. Free with rebate from AT&T with 2 year service agreement.
Hope that helps.
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Nice HD at Amazon for $116
Ron Robinson Thursday, August 13th at 3:18AM EDT (link)I just bought this one from Amazon for $125 (It’s now $116):
http://www.amazon.com/HD345-Definition-resolution-Interpolation-Megapixels/dp/B001W24TN4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1250146765&sr=8-2
Smaller than a PDA/Cell phone and does 12 megapixels still (plus voice recording, mp3 player and some kinda game). The big prob with a camera this tiny and light is holding it steady - be sure to turn on the image stabilizer. This goes into your pocket easily. You can film unobtrusively by turning at right angles to your subject and putting your thumbs on the playback controls, and it looks like you are texting insteadt of ‘taping’
The only thing I regret about the purchase is that it does not have a socket for a tripod screw.
But it shoots great HD video.
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTs9PNy6HDU (click HD and go full screen)
It uses an SD chip which I can yank and put in my computer, but the USB interface works fine, too. I’m using a 2 Gb chip in mine.
I bought this instead of the $65 cam recommended on Redstate a few days ago….
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I have an Olympus 790 SW
Achance Thursday, August 13th at 3:53AM EDT (link)that is my boat and travel camera. It is only 7.1mp but it is shock and water resistant, a good thing for cameras that see much use outdoors. The digitals are very water sensitive and I’ve ruined a couple with rain and splashing on the boat. Likewise a drop to a hard surface will kill most of them as well. So far the Olympus has held up well to some pretty hard service, takes sharp pictures, and has a good mechanical and optical zoom. The 7.1 mp is more than adequate up to about 8 x 10.
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Canon
builder20 Thursday, August 13th at 3:54AM EDT (link)Get the best compromise (that wont feel like one) and buy the Canon Powershot SX1 IS.
It has many of the features found of DSLR’s but with 1080 (30p) video with CD quality stereo sound.
I think this would give you the most options!
What do you think of the SX 110 IS?
Neil Stevens Thursday, August 13th at 12:28PM EDT (link)I like its price.
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clintonformccain Thursday, August 13th at 4:08AM EDT (link)Oh, heck yeah. The moderatley priced point n’ shoot digital cameras take great photographs. Very high quality.
The tradeoff is size/style versus battery life. I prefer to use Nickle Metal Hydride rechargeable AA batteries — we have a bunch of sets and chargers for them, so they are more convenient and much cheaper than proprietary batteries. Plus, if you forget to bring your spares, you can always buy a set of Duracells in a pinch. These cameras eat batteries and the NiMH batteries are good for hundreds and hundreds of shots. So, with that AA requirement, we’ve had three Canon PowerShots over the years. It’s a little bigger camera, which I like, over the shirt pocket size. Gives you something to grip. The most recent one we bought has a swivel screen. If you remember to set them to the viewer mode so you don’t accidentally turn them on and jam tne lens as it extends into the camera pouch, they are even reliable for a few years at least.
The other thing I like is that Canon lets you choose any combination of pixels and JPG compression level (Fine, SuperFine, etc.), so you have lot so selectivity in quality versus file size tradeoffs. A lot of brands just give you some presets — if you want the least compression (for quality), you have to also go with the biggest pixel choice, which may be more pixels than you need. Magazine quality printing only requires 300 pixels per inch or 1600 pixels by 1200 pixels for a 5 inch by 4 inch professional color magazine photo. That’s only a 2 megapixel photo. You can double that size to 8 x 10 for a decent color print. A 7 megapixel image is enough for pro quality color magazine printing. Most point and shoot users don’t need that much data — it’s just producing monster file sizes for no reason. We have a 7 megapixel camera, but use it at the 3 megapixel setting (2048×1536) most of the time. That produces a 1600 kB file, a 900 kB file, or a 500 kB file with minimum, mid, or max JPEG compression. So we shoot fewer pixels (enough for 7 inch by 5 inch magazine printing and really high quality 8 by 10 color prints, with maximum JPEG quality. We aren’t going to blowing stuff up to poster size, so there’s not much reason to shoot more pixels. As it is, I have to downsize everthing before sending it in emails and stuff, because 2000 pixels across is double the size of most computer monitors, so it won’t come close to fitting on a screen. I take that size down by 50% for sending to relatives and stuff.
If you prefer the ultra small size and stylish colors, etc. Then either the cute little Canons or the Nikon Coolpix would be good options. I think all of those take proprietary rechargeable batteries so you have to use a separate charger and buy extra batteries.
Thanks by the way (nt)
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Sanyo Xacti
builder20 Thursday, August 13th at 7:26AM EDT (link)This is another interesting choice. The thing is small, easily carried in your pocket, and in some models waterproof. What I like about it is the pistol grip styling, and ease of carrying. You are way more likely to take pictures and video with it because of its size and shape. Plus most models have HD 720, or even HD 1080.
One thing it is not is a camera for actual photography. The pictures are okay, but nothing to be bragging about. But would do fine with hostile crowds.
I take mine to concerts normally, as well as film stuff for my youth group. Like I said its easy to carry and has taken a beating in my backpack at amusement parks, hiking trips, canoe trips, ect….
Nikon COOLPIX
dudette Thursday, August 13th at 7:30AM EDT (link)I have one and it takes great photos but there is sometimes a gap between when it is ready to take the next shot. It does video but i have never figured it out and it is a bit bulky not fitting that easily ito the palm of your hand. I think I am going for the little guy on AMazon.
Canon Rebel - DSLR
VizBiz Thursday, August 13th at 8:00AM EDT (link)Go to CraigsList, find and buy this camera. It is super easy to use and is the best DSLR for the money.
If you read the Manual on manual settings, you will be able to take professionalt pictures everytime. If you can find a lens with IS (image sabilization) for cheap, get it.
If you buy this camera and take a little time to learn how to use it, you will suddenly become addicted to it. I promise.
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I have had great luck with my Olympus 5 mega pixel
kyle8 Thursday, August 13th at 8:10AM EDT (link)check out my pictures on my blog for evidence
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Anything but...
Alone_in_the_Dotte Thursday, August 13th at 8:33AM EDT (link)….Nikon. I’m probably the exception to the rule, but I’ve never had good luck with that brand.
My current Nikon point-n-shoot digital is sloooww to cycle between shots. When using it’s grossly anemic internal flash, it adds many circular artifacts to the photo which Nikon says is “dust” but I suspect is actually more related to the pretty chrome bezel they put around the lens catching the too-close flash.
I’m going to also make an argument for the ancient technology of film. With film, you can have it all–prints, an electronic copy, and the original negative which could be handy if someone started crying that a photo was altered. People are practically giving away high-end film 35mm’s on Ebay.
I think I'll go powershot shopping
Neil Stevens Thursday, August 13th at 11:07AM EDT (link)Having been sent a sample of what they can do, that seems good enough to me.
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I was actually thinking of a video recorder
Steph C Thursday, August 13th at 12:30PM EDT (link)But Cooper has canceled his town halls.
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There is software to hack into electronic voting machines
Scope Thursday, August 13th at 12:09PM EDT (link)I just read this at Newsmax Technology section-
http://www.physorg.com/news169133727.html
We must demand paper back up systems for voting before 2010!!!!!
There is software to hack into electronic voting machines
Scope Thursday, August 13th at 12:09PM EDT (link)I just read this at Newsmax Technology section-
http://www.physorg.com/news169133727.html
We must demand paper back up systems for voting before 2010!!!!!
I think the technology is a red herring
Neil Stevens Thursday, August 13th at 12:30PM EDT (link)We should get better monitoring of counters, not worry about exactly what process they have to take to rig the count.
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Swamp_Yankee Thursday, August 13th at 7:53PM EDT (link)Tom Brady returns tonight:
Not Dead Yet!
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I bought the PowerShot SX110 IS
Neil Stevens Friday, August 14th at 12:40PM EDT (link)The quality seems great, and it’s at a price that were something to happen to it, I wouldn’t be mortified. Unhappy, but not devastated.
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Neil Stevens Friday, August 14th at 12:41PM EDT (link)It does seem like a lot of camera for the $225 + tax I paid for it at WalMart.
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