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Fisking the Fiorina Letter

Update: There’s a debate coming at noon Pacific between the Republican candidates for Senate, which will be available online at ktkz.com live. Listen and judge for yourself if you like.

Senators Coburn, Inhofe, and Kyl have put out a letter explaining why conservatives should back Carly Fiorina for Senate instead of Chuck DeVore. I have problems with this letter. Here’s how.

This November, California will have an opportunity to call Barbara Boxer home and send a new conservative leader to the United States Senate. That new leader is Carly Fiorina. We are proud to endorse her as a fellow conservative who has real-world business experience and the guts and moxie to take on Barbara Boxer and win.

First off, you’re not a conservative leader until you’ve led. Fiorina has done no such thing, instead choosing to work with Jesse Jackson and his Rainbow/PUSH coalition, and so is not a conservative leader. Chuck DeVore is a conservative leader, having proven himself in the California Legislature. He knows what it’s like to fight against a Democrat near-supermajority.

Carly is not a Washington insider. She is a proven business leader who understands the economy and advocates a strong national defense. And, she is a tough fiscal and social conservative who:

  • Signed Americans for Tax Reform’s “No New Taxes” Taxpayer Protection Pledge;
  • Will fight to lower taxes, reduce the deficit, and cut wasteful Washington spending;
  • Is Pro-life, unlike her liberal opponents, Barbara Boxer and Tom Campbell;
  • Opposes Barbara Boxer’s Cap-and-Trade legislation;
  • Opposes the radical “government takeover” policies that President Obama and Barbara Boxer support for health care and other sectors of the economy; and
  • Supports a tough national security policy that prosecutes terrorists as unlawful enemy combatants before military commissions, not as civilians in our federal courts.

First off, it’s just nonsense for a team of DC insiders to insist that we listen to them, while at the same time telling us to vote for a non-DC insider. But wait, there’s more! None of the three candidates for Senate are DC insiders! The closest is Campbell, who used to be in the US House, but he’s been in Sacramento lately.

Second, Fiorina and her supporters ask us just to trust her that she’ll fight for lower taxes and spending. Chuck DeVore has a proven track record of doing just that in Sacramento.

Democrats fear Carly more than any other candidate in the Republican primary. That’s why Barbara Boxer has been using Carly’s name in fundraising letters for nearly two years, while the California Democratic Party employs two full-time staffers to follow Carly around the state, and why numerous union-funded groups have launched independent expenditure efforts attacking her.

Or maybe Carly is a total novice, doomed to make major mistakes on the campaign trail, and Boxer knows that using her name paints Republicans with her record of failure in business? Anyway, If you’re already resorting to talking to me about the Democrats, and you’re asking me to trust the judgment of Babs Boxer of all people, then you’ve already run out of good things to say about your candidate?

Also, if Fiorina is the candidate backed by more DC insiders, per your comments and logic shouldn’t she be the candidate we favor least if we want to bring substantive change to the Republican leadership in the Senate?

Carly Fiorina worked her way through undergraduate and graduate school, majoring in medieval history at Stanford University and earning two graduate business degrees from the University of Maryland and MIT. A self-made woman, Carly started her business career as a secretary and went on to become the first and, to date, the only woman to lead a Fortune 20 company, serving as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Hewlett-Packard Company. Most recently, Carly served on the Defense Business Board advising the U.S. Secretary of Defense on overall management of the department and as Director of Business Executives for National Security.

Wow, you actually opened that door. Did you know that at MIT, Fiorina advocated (in what she called a personal as well as academic pursuit) a total federal government takeover of high schools in America, and declared that the Constitution was a problem and obstacle to doing the right thing? How progressive of her.

As conservative leaders in the United States Senate, we know you can count on the principled leadership of Carly Fiorina. We are confident that she will stand with us and stand up for you against the liberal special interests that have kept Barbara Boxer in Washington for almost 28 years.

How do you know we can count on Fiorina’s leadership? Her lifetime track record is that of bleeding heart left-wing leadership, favoring increased government involvement in schools, working with Jesse Jackson to promote an agenda opposing equality of opportunity in America, and making feminist tirades in private meetings even on the campaign trail. Why should I believe you over my own eyes and ears?

This is a golden opportunity for the people of the Golden State to come together to elect Carly to represent them in the United States Senate. Please join us in supporting Carly’s campaign.

But can she win? Chuck DeVore has been working since November 2008 for this seat, building up contacts, raising money at a brisk pace for Republican candidates for Senate in this state, and establishing himself with TEA Party activists up and down the state, as well as across the country. He’s also proven he can keep his cool and win on the campaign trail, using aggressive surprise tactics where needed. Fiorina hasn’t proven she can win as dog catcher, and her campaign staff reacts with anger when surprised. Won’t Boxer just crush her and make her lash out before November?

TOM COBURN, M.D.
U.S. Senator (R-OK)

We at Red State support you, Sen. Coburn, but many of us are disappointed with your failure to back the man with the proven track record in this race. Step back, step away from the DC go-along, get-along club on this one.

JAMES INHOFE
U.S. Senator (R-OK)

JON KYL
U.S. Senator (R-AZ)

Should I be worried that Sen. Kyl, who has a track record of supporting legalization of illegal aliens in America, backs Fiorina? Should all opponents of mass, uncontrolled immigration into California be concerned? Why do I get the feeling that DC insiders just don’t care about that issue right now, and are going to lead us into trouble later?

COMMENTS

  • Vegas_Rick
  • navychick1993

    I am really disappointed that the two senators from Oklahoma are supporting Carly Fiorina. And I still don’t know what to think of Senator Kyl…sometimes he’s good, sometimes he’s just bad.

    I have been getting a lot of emails from the Carly Fiorina campaign and I had to finally tell them to stop. I have heard Chuck DeVore speak and I think he can beat Barbara Boxer. These DC insiders need to stay out of our primary.

  • KeepOhioRed

    These guys are conservative heros, and then come out and back Carly or Devore?

    How very very disappointing…

  • KeepOhioRed
  • golfermike

    This is the sort of thing that alienates the base so they end up going home in frustration and either sitting on their hands or voting for a 3rd party candidate. This is an extremely poor decision on Inofe’s, Coburn’s and Kyl’s part. I guess no matter who you are, spending too much time in DC makes you lose all sense of connection with the people.

  • momo

    how they can call her a conservative- Chuck Devore should be their choice-he is the proven conservative!!!

  • red_oakster

    Fiorina’s campaign has been uninspired to say the least. But Devore has been unable to get going. He trails badly in the polls despite the fact that Campbell is an unmitigated disaster. Devore needs to show he can play in the majors soon or he is going to get flattened.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Who’s your candidate, and if Fiorina, can you refute a single thing I’ve said?

  • benson1

    I agree lets go all Rubio on em.
    The only senator I trust to recommend conservative candidates is Demint. He talks the talk and walks the walk. Not sometimes but all the time. His website lists the conservative candidates he backs and Rubio is one of them. I’m from Ohio but I donated to Rubios campaign and it looks like Rubio is giving Crist a total wholloping. RedState and Demint if you want to know who to back.

  • Richard Mullins

    Because it seems that both are going down the tubes quickly. If Carly can use another Demonsheep(or maybe borrow Medina’s Hamster), then both will down the gutter, producing a good candidate in DeVore. You sir, are a little nutty.

  • Flagstaff

    Kyl is better than Lindsey G., but that’s not saying much.

    Nobody’s perfect, but they want us to support them because of the good they have done and can do, and they want us to overlook the bad things they’ve done and will do in the future.

    What letters and endorsements like this do is to let us all know their lack of commitment to and belief in conservative principles.

  • IJB

    Both Campbell and Fiorina are already up with advertising in the San Diego area. But I’ve seen nothing from DeVore.

    If he doesn’t get on the air soon, it won’t matter – he’ll get swamped by Campbell and Fiorina, and will end up as an ‘also-ran’.

    I’m voting for the guy no matter what, and he’s still got 3 months. But if he doesn’t become real visible real soon, it’s not going to matter…

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    The primary’s 3 months way.

    You sound like Rubio’s early critics.

  • IJB

    The people saying that about Rubio were saying that a *full year* before the Primary.

    Not having the money 3 months before the primary is a whole different kettle of fish.

    It’s still possible – but time is starting to run out on DeVore turning this thing around. CA is not MA – DeVore can’t run a “retail” campaign in CA, and hope to win. He’s *got* to start advertising soon, or it’ll be too late.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    DeVore’s run even with Fiorina the whole time, running his retail campaign.

    If we’re going to win this it’s going to be on the backs of the grass roots: The Prop 8 coalition, the TEA Party coalition, the pro-life coalition, and other groups.

  • scarlos

    All the polls I’ve seen had Devore’s support collapsing to single digits with Campbell in the race, though admittedly this race hasn’t been covered nearly as much as I would like

    Though there seems to be a lot of undecideds though, which further stresses the need for DeVore to increase his name recognition, and fast.

    Also, did anyone watch the debate? I had class from 12-3 today, and I want to know how it went.

  • skat

    Flagstaff,
    I’m assuming you are that rare creature, a conservative in Flagstaff, AZ? Good for you, but come on – Kyl is a great senator .

  • Tom_Holsinger

    I’m an old Scoop Jackson California Democrat who switched to the GOP based on Jeanne Kirkpatrick’s example. Our experience out here with Campbell is that he fades at the close. I certainly don’t like his anti-Israel associations, but for me his real problem is that I think he’ll find a way to lose if he gets the nomination.

    Chuck DeVore I don’t know, which means his name recognition is a major issue, especially in southern California where most of the votes are. California campaign history is rife with Mr. Wonderfuls who lost for lack of name recognition. I recall how Boxer’s campaign manager used that to kill Matt Fong last time. Fong wasn’t quick enough to respond when Boxer started a quick crharacter assassination campaign to define his image so the one the voters formed was the first one offered them – her negative image of him.

    Carly Fiorini’s strong point is name recognition so it will be difficult for Boxer to take her down that way. The impression I get of Fiorini is that of a standard-issue business executive not too familiar with politics who adopted her early positions because they were trendy and easy. Which makes it difficult to adopt fixed convictions at all, let alone the right ones.

    So IMO Fiorini is likely the best we can get. It’s not like the California GOP has a farm club, let alone much of a bench. She’ll be better than Boxer, and I’ll settle for that.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    You don’t even pretend you can refute any thing I said. You don’t even try, becaus eyou can’t. She is what she is.

    So you can stand with Jesse Jackson if you want, but I for one oppose racism.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I find it amusing how the DeVore haters are going all out today to try to belittle him in any way they can after his crushing performance in the debate today.

    People are worried and it makes me smile.

  • scarlos

    http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=5607
    http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/29/california-senate-race-heats-up-as-tom-campbell-surges-ahead-in-polls/

    I can only find 2 post-Campell polls, and i saw your post as encouraging. I assumed you had access to some data that suggested I might not have to choose between a Liberal or a Liberal in Denial come November.

    Do you or am i being too optimistic?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    …polls that show Fiorina and DeVore to be even.

  • Tom_Holsinger

    Neil, I didn’t bother refuting because I don’t care. So she sucks. 90% of everything sucks. At least she’ll side with the GOP on big votes. That’s a +2 swing.

    You think everyone who isn’t for you is against you, and that is probably correct in your case. That attitude is shared by enough California Republicans as to make the California GOP the great success it is today, i.e., bigger losers than the lllinois GOP and that is saying something.

    It gets worse, Neil. My godfather taught me to count. You may have heard of him – Phil Burton, the father of the modern gerrymander.

    Barbara Boxer will likely be re-elected, even this year. Because so many California Republicans are like you. Regretably there aren’t enough Republicans like Tom McClintock.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’ll make sure to point you out as an example of a Fiorina backer.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Yeah, you are on solid ground. Keep on truckin’ buddy.

  • red_baron

    Magellan Strategies (R) California Senatorial Survey
    Tom Campbell 33%
    Carly Fiorina 20%
    Chuck DeVore 11%
    Other 6%
    Undecided 30%

    http://www.magellanstrategies.com/documents/MagellanCaliforniaGOPPrimarySurveyRelease030410_000.pdf

    For those interested in future events from same poll:

    Mitt Romney 31%
    Sarah Palin 18%
    Mike Huckabee 13%
    Newt Gingrich 12%
    Ron Paul 8%
    Tim Pawlenty 3%
    Another Candidate 3%
    Undecided 12%

    “Survey of 612 likely Republican primary voters was conducted February 25, 2010. The margin of error is +/- 3.97 percentage points.”

  • Flagstaff

    I don’t want to argue about Kyl. He is good on many fronts. There’s just something about him that doesn’t generate a lot of enthusiasm in me. This kind of thing is a symptom.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • hickorystick

    Boxer 48.3 Devore 38.3 last poll 2/13/10 with gap shrinking.

  • scarlos

    so that 30% moves the right way.

    And I’m optimistic about it too. I seriously doubt that only 11% of California Republicans are Conservative, but as is noted numerous times in this thread, he has very little name recognition. I’ve never heard of him outside of Redstate, but I’m working on informing people down here in Cal Poly.

  • joayn

    The last reputable poll I saw had all three around six points of each other.

    The last time I talked to Chuck he said that things wouldn’t be heating up until March. I do know he has quite a few speaking gigs with tea party groups – the Pasadena Patriots is a great group who are sponsoring an event for him this weekend.

    None of the candidates have done any heavy advertising yet, DeVore is into YouTube videos. Don’t know about Fiorina, but I don’t look for her stuff. And Campbell has been virtually nonexistent so far.

    Campbell does have better name recognition, but when the skinny gets out on him his approval will drop – he was involved with some Arab/terrorist thing that’s getting a lot of attention recently and he’s doing some fancy dancing about it. Looks bad for him, though.

    A good site to see California goings on is the Flash Report by Jon Fleischman.

    But I agree with Neil. Neil is always right. Don’t fight it, scarlos.

  • joayn
  • joayn

    Listen to the debate (archived):

    http://hoguenews.com/?p=8479

    Devore ambushes Fiorina (also on Capitol Hour):

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/03/preview-of-upcoming-gop-senate-debate-devore-ambushes-fiorina-on-radio.html

    The FlashReport:

    http://www.flashreport.org/index.php?doDate=

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I just get annoyed when certain people take any post I make and start using it to try to belittle DeVore, refusing to address what I actually write about.

    But I’m glad you’re putting in the effort

  • hickorystick

    You state that ‘Scoop’ Jackson and Jeanne Kirkpatrick were inspirations to you, then you say we have to feebly comply and go with Carly ‘Demonsheep’ Fiorina. What do you have to indicate she is a warrior? Your the political genius, show some evidence she will interested in military matters in anything beyond the multi-culti mix of it. Does she support eliminating ‘don’t ask don’t tell’? Back up your stated convictions with links showing Fiorina will support the war on terror, beyond securing some military contracts for the Golden State.
    Now excuse me, after you mentioned Fiorina and Scoop in the same sentence, I’m going outside to throw up.

  • joayn

    Campbell and Chuck at the California GOP Convention? Why wasn’t that in the letter?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • joayn

    a Thursday, so, IMHO, that kind of narrows down the participants.

    Whether during the day or at night, the list acquired by Magellan of “likely primary voters” would probably be older people, not youngsters, hence the larger percentage number of older voting groups who would know Campbell the older and not the younger DeVore.

    Rasmussen, to me, has the best polling strategy and the best results: poll for three days, never on weekends. And, I believe he doesn’t poll “likely voters”.

    This poll leaves a lot of unanswered questions that I had. The undecided numbers across the board was a big red flag. I don’t put much stock in it. Plus, I couldn’t find the number of people polled. Anyone with better reading skills know the number?

  • skat

    Flagstaff,
    I agree with your assessment. I think Kyl should take the gloves off some, but that’s not his style.

  • hickorystick

    1. Opposes Barbara Boxer?s Cap-and-Trade legislation;

    “In order to capture the innovation of entrepreneurs across the state who develop clean, green technology, we have to make sure our policies encourage them to locate in California and employ Californians, rather than taking their business overseas.” Fiorina’s for Senate’s websitewebsite

    How can these two statements match up? If she want’s to be a Federal City Legislator, how can she do anything about this, without transferring wealth from the Federal Treasury to California?

    2. Will fight to lower taxes, reduce the deficit, and cut wasteful Washington spending;

    “And it means eliminating the some $500 billion in well-documented fraud, waste and abuse in the system. ” Gee, who have I heard that from before? more BO from Fiorina.

    -Carly started her business career as a secretary
    “Carly began her career as a receptionist ” Guess the big boys don’t really care what the chics in the office are doing. Shows how well they know who they are endorsing. Course they don’t specifically site one thing she did to improve HP.

    quotes are from http://carlyforcalifornia.com/issues/

    Looking at Carly Fiorina Enterprises, which just gives me an idea of whats important to her, her attention is on global human rights, specifically women and minorities. Nothing wrong with that, but a non-clueless person would realize no-one in those countries has any rights to speak of, outside of the political class. It would make more sense to work to establish rights for the entire population, while working to secure minority rights at the same time.

    Short of it, she is a global do-gooder, who wants to use the American Treasury and Foreign Policy Capital to promote her personal agenda. Her lack of interest in serving on any committees to improve California, should be a tip. Texan and Oklahoman Senators should be more careful about getting sucked into the McCain Twister.

  • peg_c

    Coburn and Kyl are unrelliable. I’m shocked at Inhofe. There are good reasons why no senator should serve more than 2 terms. The collegiality and beltway think is a cancer.