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On the Alex Knepper situation

Upon hearing of the Huffington Post’s impassioned defense of Alex Knepper, the 20 year old gay writer recently fired by David Horowitz’s site NewsRealBlog for a series of strange articles related to sex crimes, and now fired by David Frum’s site FrumForum, I got to thinking a bit about just how twisted Knepper’s situation was. And the more I thought, the more troubling I found it.

And deep down I suspect HuffPo agrees, because for all the defense the site gives, I see no job offer given to the allegedly unfairly fired Knepper.

First off, let’s remember that Knepper’s activities on a gay teen forum were the end, not the beginning, of the case against him. His public record as a writer was well covered by RedState’s Lexington Concord, and should give anyone at least a moment’s pause in considering whether to hire him.

But there is the matter of the forum, and it’s that which I’m finding more disturbing the more I think about it. Yes, that’s possible. Because consider Knepper’s own account: he first joined the forum at 17, as a closeted gay teenager, looking for help on coming out, particularly to his family. Being a 17 year old dealing with sex can be tough enough as it is in today’s hyper-sexualized popular culture, which denigrates abstinence and celebrates promiscuity. But being 17, gay, and hiding it is double the trouble. So he turned to whom he believed were other teenage boys for emotional support and assistance in a spot where he was at a loss, and both emotionally and blackmail-wise vulnerable to attack.

Since he was in that tough spot, Knepper had moved on up. He was now openly gay, and clearly comfortable with it to the point of writing publicly how cute he thinks Justin Bieber is, while writing with a national audience and gathering prominence. He was secure, he was comfortable, and he was gaining in success. He was even dating successfully as we saw on the forum.

He had it all, and yet he was still on that forum. He’s 20 years old, and he was hanging around the place that lost, confused, vulnerable teenage boys were going to get help with critical issues. And what was he doing? He was lusting after them, collecting their nude pictures, and all around living a rich fantasy life with them.

Of all the jokes he told, of all the comments he made, it occurs to me that this is the most damning bit of the entire story. At some point, Knepper made the transition from lost teenage boy to adult sexual predator. He was secure and having a good old time at the expense of these often insecure and uncomfortable boys dealing with enormous stress. Being a gay man who lusted after young, gay teenagers, he was at the same time like the kid in a candy store, and in a position to offer kids candy.

Did he ever take advantage in an illegal and harmful way? We don’t know. But he was in a position to, even unknowingly, and as an adult he should have known better than to stick around a gay teenage support group as an adult. It was a situation that could so easily lead to harm in ways he might not even intend or worse, as a imperfect human he could have been led to do something knowingly that could harm a kid.

Smart people just don’t put themselves in that spot. That Knepper continued to do so reflects at least very poor judgment on his part, at worst shows a desire to be a predator, and most likely just shows a reckless disregard for vulnerable teenagers in his desire to have a good time.

COMMENTS

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    Therefore, I have no comment on someone who is perfectly capable of collecting CHILFs.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com Veronica

    you took it a level higher than anyone, including me by accurately telling the very likely story of the depth of Knepper’s depravity by solely relying on Knepper’s posts in the “teeny” part of the gayteenforum (there’s a whole adult section he has access to that we don’t know about — who the hell would venture into there? someone braver than me, obviously).

    I am INCREDIBLY concerned for the boys on those forums, as well as for the boys of our white culture. I’ll tell you why.

    I poked around in there for my WZ post (see “me” above if you missed it) and there were boys in there as young as 8 speaking to men as old as 37. That’s what I saw from flipping through a few pages.

    When they would talk about their experiences, the main crux of the group — the 15 to 18 year olds — would talk about their first experiences, their first discoveries, and all too often, their experiences were based on what an older boy taught them.

    This is my theory. I have boys, I know my boys and I have a husband. I am generalizing at this point, but stay with me.

    Boys are impulsive. They will try anything once. That’s normal. That’s what makes them men — it’s about discovery and adventure.

    Boys are curious.

    Boys are also horny creatures. They blossom before girls do. There’s nothing wrong with that.

    Left alone, boys are also likely to bond with other boys – think of our gaming culture and, perhaps, how and where you were when you watched your first porn (not speaking to you, Neil — to the audience).

    So there we have the set up for introducing boys to gay culture.

    No, you just don’t show a young, curious boy how to blow and get blown — you groom him. It begins with the “like” affirmation.

    I saw this again and again on the forum when they described their experiences. Which is what I saw on there. There were 16 year old boys talking about “knowing” they were gay since they were 8 when their older brother’s best friend “showed them things.” There were 13 year olds who did it with their 13 year-old best friends who learned from their 16 year old gay brother or older friend.

    This is passed down.. and is cyclical.

    The older ones teach the younger ones, the younger ones grow up to teach those younger then them and it repeats.

    It’s also sexual abuse.

    I am SHOCKED that more of this isn’t discussed. I’ve the suspicion that we’ve become comatose to accepting and incorporating the gay lifestyle into our culture… but there’s this whole other world we’re barely learning about.

    The second point I wanted to make is that I suspect that this is something that is targeted on the white population.

    I saw nothing but white boys on that forum. Is the forum racist? No. I would suspect that if you’re gay, you’re gay — welcome to our forum — but we know white boys hang with white boys.

    And lonely white boys hang with who for bonding?

    My husband was telling me — we know blacks and hispanics join gangs for their “belonging” experience.

    How do we not know that this has been stealthily perpetuated by progressives onto white society?

    Kevin Jennings? You know you’re gay at age 5? Fisting’s great? Hello?!

    We can at least admit it’s a byproduct!

    It’s bad for our boys, bad for our society.

    They’re killing our American culture

    Again, incredible post, Neil. Such depth and insight.

    Thanks for the opportunity to discuss. :)

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com Veronica

    your post is going in my sig. Thanks again. :)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

    It’s about the alarming expansion of sexual idolatry that’s endangering our cultural moorings (and not just homosexual).

    That is, the centering of one’s life about one’s sexual identity, and the pushing of younger and younger children into sexual roles while they’re still in the earliest stages of forming their personalities as people – and the incredible psychological damage that results – which damage in turn gets passed down to kids a few years younger, perpetuating this plague.

    We’re perhaps are just seeing the beginning to see the effects on our whole culture of this viewing everything through the lens of sexual identity groups where what people think of each other and life is viewed through that lens.

    And what is being lost in the process, the ability to anchor oneself in that which lasts, rather than wandering through a series of fleeting encounters.

    Meanwhile, reality does have that nasty habit of forcing its appearance – sometimes in mercy to raise one from the muck, but other times to demand payment in full. The same intrusion of reality will happen with our society too.

  • aesthete

    This tying of identity to sexuality is, IMO, tied to the unspoken premise behind leftist thought that the freedom to screw like wild rabbits is the only one that matters. IMO, that is part of why you see so much pop culture focused on the issue of sexuality to the point of monomania.

  • aesthete

    Very extrospective. There’s really so much wrong in the Knepper situation that it is difficult to pin down the single most repulsive aspect of it, but I think that you’ve really hit the nail on the head here. One thing’s for sure: this speaks very poorly of Frum’s scruples, and will serve to puncture his already deflating reputation and influence.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Heh.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Well I was there for a few minutes anyway. :)

  • dodiafae

    If there were 37 year old men talking in such a way with 16 year old girls, everyone would be up in arms (and rightly so!) But no one speaks up for these boys who are quite probably being groomed by older men?

    People like Knepper have no business being on forums for teens. It’s painfully obvious from reading his posts that he’s not there for moral support, or for any reason other than for his own sick enjoyment. I’m 38, and the pedophile jokes have been around so much longer than I have. I remember hearing them as a first grader, going home and telling my parents all about this hilarious joke (that I didn’t get… they did, and were horrified.) I’m sure there are adults out there who would snicker at such a joke until they have children of their own, or even hear it told from their child’s mouth. It’s just another tool used by pro-pedophile activists to desensitize society to their depravity. Knepper’s jokes are no different. Even if he isn’t a pedophile (I’m not convinced he isn’t… too much evidence points to him being a depraved sociopath), he’s only helping to perpetuate these horrible acts on children by sharing these “jokes”, and even more so by sharing them with children.

  • qixlqatl

    It has never even occurred to me that there would be a reco button on your posts, soooo…

    I missed this one for a few days, but d*** sure reco worthy.