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By: NightTwister (Diary)  |  October 14th, 2011 at 11:30 AM  | 

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Yeah, that’s pretty much it. That should be the singular, loud and clear message from the Republican candidates for President. Sure, the right candidate will have foreign policy experience, executive experience, and a strong understanding of how government works.

Every election is about something, and this one is no different. This election will be about jobs. This is the issue foremost in the minds of the American people. Everyone knows the unemployment numbers, so there’s no reason to repeat them here. President Obama’s approval ratings and reelection prospects are tied directly to this issue.

The successful Presidential candidate in 2012 will win on this issue. Too many good people are without a job that want one, or have a part-time job(s) or a job that pays much less then the one they had before. People have been unemployed or underemployed for much longer than in recent memory, and are tired of waiting for a solution.

Unfortunately, too many Republican candidates are looking for a hook, and too many constituents are looking for a magic bullet. The road to recovery will be a difficult one, requiring a strong leader that will be able to tell us what we need to hear, but in such a way that we support him. People are losing their homes, struggling to take care of their family, and discouraged about their future.

It’s time to get on message, and convince the American people that they are the one to move us forward and bring prosperity back. No Republican candidate has been able to distinguish himself in this way to this date. President Obama has a plan, but his plan brings small short-term results at the cost of even greater long-term consequences. Yet, people are desperate enough to accept a short-term plan over no plan at all. They need a home, they need food, they need a solution now.

Now is not the time for drastic schemes and distractions. It’s time for our candidates to state their plan that will bring prosperity back to our nation, and allow anyone that wants a job to be able to find one. I’m still waiting for a candidate to communicate his plan. It is then, and only then, that I will choose the candidate I want to represent the Republican Party.

Night Twister

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  • Darin_H

    And apparently I liked it so much, I was able to Rec it twice…?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    imho
    His 9-9-9 plan for taxes and EPA start over would unleash the pent-up entrepreneurial jobs producing forces in this country like no plan since Reagan’s supply side rate cuts, which Cain’s plan makes look almost quaint by comparison.

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      coming out saying it’s a job killer? A 9% sales tax will certainly be a consumption killer.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        This is really fundamental supply side and most businessmen see that. Yes, i am familiar with the Grover Norquist know nothing crowd. Never been a big fan.

        I wouldn’t be for it if it was a consumption killer as that is one of my objections to the FAIR Tax for a nation that can’t remain a superpower absent consumption-driven growth. 9-9-9 strikes the proper balance between savings and consumption incentives imho.

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          That was sorta the reason for this diary. We don’t need a fancy tax plan. We need jobs. Certainly the jobs plan will involve easing the tax burden, but crazy schemes are not the answer. The average American voter isn’t going to see 9-9-9, FairTax or Flat Tax as a jobs plan.

          • lastgopinillinois

            now more than ever in the global economy where the US ranks among the highest in tax burden among competing countries.

            A few of the candidates have talked about lowering the rates to compete in the global economy and broaden the base so everyone has skin in the game. I like that.

            But we need much more. Regulations are the bigger job killer by far compared to taxes. My candidate must be in favor of the repeal of 0bamacare, Dodd/Frank financial Deform and the CRA (Community wealth re-distribution act), ooops I mean the Community re-investment Act. Candidates who are talking about overhauling the EPA will get my attention as well.

            I believe doing those things will bring economic growth back.

            My favored candidate will be in favor of all those things, but I’d also like the moon and the stars too. I want a Constitutional conservative who inst a flip-flopper, global warming sympathiser, isolationist, or go-along-to-get along establismentarian. My philosophy is, if we can get somebody who will stick to the Constitution, we can bring this country back to prosperity.

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            People want to hear about how they’re going to get them a job, not how you’re going to change their taxes.

            I get what you’re saying, and that’s find for politigeeks, but not for the average person.

            I think it’s interesting that your wish list is exactly what Mitt Romney has on his website. I just wish I knew which Mitt would show up on Jan.21st…

  • Doc Holliday

    but ok, for unity I will go with just jobs.

    And by jobs, I mean getting government to stop trashing the producers and stop lying to those who need to learn how to be producers.

    • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

      You are the man!

      • Doc Holliday

        .

  • Doc Holliday

    I think I may have just been looking for a place to say something funny (to me at least).

    Personally, I think we DO need drastic plans, it will take a hell of a lot to undo even a little bit of the destruction wrought by statist socialists.

    I hope all that want a job will learn the skills and have the determination to find a job. You know, I see immigrants all over the place cutting lawns, taking down trees, and doing whatever is needed by the customer. These people are making real money, a couple c notes a day money. I am tired of people who think society owes them a bloody thing.

    • aesthete

      …

    • lineholder

      Have you ever considered it? My family and I got to talking about this one day. These kinds of jobs are pretty easy to get “under the table”, so to speak. That isn’t meant to be disparaging towards those who are legal and taking on these kinds of jobs. I’m glad for those who do. It was a just curiosity topic of discussion during a slow day more than anything else.

      • aesthete

        Really speaks to the status of America’s laws that so many perfectly consensual, value-adding jobs are criminalized, huh?

        • lineholder

          I want to make something plain in saying this…I’m not anti-immigrant, but when push comes to shove and our back’s to the wall economically like it is now, I do tend to be more pro-legal citizen than normal. It just brings out a “taking care of our own first” streak in my personality, LOL.

          But our system allows these types of events to occur, and far more often than it should. The company I work for received some e-Verify alerts not long ago. Given all the distortions of the law, management made the decision to simply let those employees know that these had been received. Nothing else was said. They left it up to the individual as to how they would respond to it. I’d say we’ve lost a dozen employees in three months due to it.

          • Doc Holliday

            I have come out against illegal immigration here before. But I believe most of the people protesting for government handouts are legal, and many illegals are out there getting all the work they can handle. It is another wrinkle in a complicated issue.

            I have a zero new immigration plan. For every hard working immigrant, we deport a liberal, how ’bout that? :)

          • Doc Holliday

            I think people need to grow up here, be educated in our schools, and go to college, to be stupid enough to be a liberal. Most of these immigrants are not educated enough to realize they are not supposed to work hard and provide for themselves.

          • lineholder

            I’ve heard in the while. You’re on a roll today, aren’t you? Keep it up. We can use it around here right now.

            And speaking of work, it’s about that time for me.

          • Doc Holliday

            we need to come together at some point, and a bit of kindness never hurt anyone.

          • lineholder

            ,

          • aesthete

            At some point, we’re gonna have to figure out that the things that we’re arguing about among the base are mostly things that will not be resolved in the next election — whereas the things that unite the base are mostly things that the next election will have significant impact on. Plus, as you say, taking things in stride and looking to not get offended never hurt anyone.

          • lineholder

            it sounds like I’ve contradicted myself, doesn’t it?

            The simple point is that we do have a system in place that can work when applied, and what my company has gone through lately proves it.

            It’s when the system is ignored that criminalizing of these jobs ends up taking place.

          • Doc Holliday

            and the feds do nothing about it. I don’t think employers should be in the immigration enforcement game. I mean, sure, they should ask for id, SSN etc, but they are not private Dicks, they are companies trying to provide a service.

            The feds say the states should do nothing, why should a small business control the borders?

          • Doc Holliday

            I don’t know that anyone that works in my neighborhood is illegal. Not my business.

      • Doc Holliday

        if someone was going to work on my house or do anything risky, I would ask for their license etc. If someone mows my lawn, trims hedges etc, I normally will only pay with a check to a business.

        I don’t know the status of the people employed by these companies. I do know the people I see around work extremely hard. They are offering a needed service, and they are making their own money, on their own terms. If they do a good job, they will do well.

  • tngal

    The frustration is evident but the reality is not sinking in. Things will never be like they were job-wise.

    Outsourcing, Automation and Education have changed the employment landscape. When you get to the heart of why businesses outsource or opt for automation then you can change the playing field. And once we change the way america educates only then can we get close to where we were.

    (Its sad to see someone can’t make change because the digital cash register is on the fritz. And If you can’t read a college textbook, you shouldn’t be allowed to enroll in college. That’s not a bad thing. Not everybody needs to have a college degree. Many jobs don’t require them. Just decent training and a good base from k-12)

  • Kyle-MI

    Restructuring the tax code sounds good, but there are huge hurdles and it will take too long. (We should still pursue it because it will help long term.) I don’t think cutting taxes will work at this time because the debt is too big. We simply cannot afford even a short-term trade-off between an increase in debt and a jump in the economy. We can only cut taxes if we get to the point where we cut spending enough, first.

    There are three good levers that we can push quickly:
    1. cut spending
    2. cut regulation
    3. increase domestic energy supply (by getting government out of the way)

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      that is exactly what I have been saying here for two weeks.

    • YnotNOW

      These are exactly the points to bring back jobs more quickly. The tax issue is important but will take longer. Though I will also add that part of the tax issue is the complexity that has such high compliance costs, similar to the cost of regulation (in fact, the tax code is largely bulked up with regulation via tax subsidies and rules).

  • Vaughn Harold

    seems to be geared to get businesses and people with incomes investing back into this country by the reduced rates, and not the central federal government. I don’t see this as a down side, and I diffiantly don’t see it as a tax solution. How are jobs ever going to be created if businesses and individuals with money aren’t apart of the solution instead of the federal government?

    • Vaughn Harold

      nt

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      Kyle-MI says this very well above. Even if 9-9-9 were a good idea (which I don’t think it is), it would take too long to get through congress. Too many are already against it, both in government and in the business world.

      We need solutions that can be implemented on Day 1, not pipe dreams. Even Obama knew he couldn’t start with his wretched Obamacare right away.

      • Vaughn Harold

        comments. And just to be clear, I’m not a Cain supporter in particularly. I’m for a Republican that can motivate the American people in a conservative direction because a motivated public is what it’s going to take to get #1 and 2 done in Congress. As we’ve seen so far this year and in years past, doing #1 & #2 isn’t going to happen until the American people demand so with a strong majority to get it done. I think it’s not going to matter what those in government or business are for or against, I think the American people are going to make a very strong statement as to what the future of this nation is going to be about next year!

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          There’s no way something that changes so much of how things are done now could get through Congress and be implemented on day 1.

          I still disagree that it’s a good idea, and in fact believe it would stifle the economy and job growth, but more importantly we need to hear what can be done now. There are people that are on the verge of financial ruin and can’t wait.

          • Vaughn Harold

            Congress right now, we aren’t going to get anything done on day 1 without a strong, strong mandate.

            I’m in total agreement that creating Jobs is the priority #1 on day 1 of the next presidency, and no doubt the American people will select the person whom they believe can get it done in a way that paves the way to America having a bright future. I do believe that the American people understand, however, that temporary fixes and accounting gimmicks just aren’t getting the job done.

        • Kyle-MI

          I can concede that Cain’s 999 plan probably does address point #2. I am not sure how you can argue it addresses point #1 because his plan is only about taxation. It does not directly address spending.

          Even so, restructuring taxes will not affect the economy fast enough. It will take time to get it through the House and Senate and it will take a while before the system goes into effect.

          Cutting regulations and opening up energy resources can be done by executive order and will have a faster impact. Of course, nothing stops Cain from adopting these other policies in addition to his tax plan.

          • Vaughn Harold

            simplicity and transparency upon the federal government revenue streams.

  • Vaughn Harold

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    • Vaughn Harold

      n text

  • acat

    This works, NightTwister.

    Interestingly, Perry’s energy plan has some direct statements about jobs while Cain’s 9-9-9 does not. I agree that both would benefit from a more pointed “it’s about the jobs” approach, especially Perry who has the Texas record to point to.

    What I do not see is a way for Mitt to capitalize on this. Massachusetts doesn’t have a great record on jobs, Mitt’s best statement on the issue is that BAIN stepping in and rescuing floundering companies saved more jobs than a bankruptcy would have cost, but .. that’s weak tea.

    From your keyboard to the various campaign managers… “Jobs!” is one of the issues where we could get some points from the Dems with the #OWS crowd.

    Mew

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      Michele, Herman, Ron, Rick, and Mitt all have issues. Newt has solutions.

      Yeah, it’s just a word…but I like the mindset behind it. Words matter these days. H/T to RedState’s own Randy Streu for first noticing this.

      • acat

        whether he’ll be able to overcome his messy personal life with enough religious-minded voters to actually win the primaries. I have no doubt he could beat anyone the Dems put up in the general.

        Mew

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          It was just an observation about candidate websites.

          Perry’s is pathetic, btw. There’s no there there.

          • acat

            that we have a decent top three this year.

            Mew

        • rightwingmom52

          While I abhor Newt’s messy personal life, I realize we’re all sinners, and we’re supposed to be forgiving, are we not? Perhaps religious-minded voters will determine that Newt had done his penance and will forgive and move on. I, for one, will vote for the candidate I think is best for the country based on a combination of his/her life, record, experience, policies, etc. Haven’t we discussed the litmus test before? LOL. Newt could very well overcome that one aspect if he’s the strongest in the others. At least with me (and probably a few others I could convince).

      • rightwingmom52

        It’s no secret that I’m a Cain supporter (for now), and I know you’re not a fan, so let’s put that aside (and I read below that you’re not pushing for Newt either).

        After Newt endorsed Scozzafava, I removed myself from his email list and asked his group to remove me from their call list, vowing that I would “never” support Newt again in light of what I viewed as a sell-out. I may very well have to walk that back after taking a look at his solutions. That is one terrific website, and the solutions are even better. He has a strong, clear message that I think is starting to get some traction. I just want to get to a place where I trust the messenger to stick with his solutions in the face of opposition from the other side and/or being unpopular in the media. If Newt can convince me that wouldn’t be a problem this time around, I could be persuaded. He’s already convinced me to put my name on his email list again now that I’ve taken a look at his site, so again, thank you for the link and your comment about solutions.

        • Common_Cents

          You know its problems. Newt’s been vetted unless there are new surprises. Gee, people jump on Perry or Cain bandwagon and then get disappointed after they get some scrutiny? ya think?

          Not sure why people go back up to over 20 years to say Newt has baggage, but don’t do the same to other candidates. Romney and Perry were Dems back then weren’t they? Talk about cheating on convservatives ;) Yeah everyone has their screwups. I look for people with the ability to learn from mistakes.

          I’m lookin at who has the best plan and is best positioned and best qualified to execute on that plan going forward. Like investing in stocks, it’s not where they’ve been, but where they are going.

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          With Scozzafava he was just being loyal to the party. I understand why that put you off so much, but I also understand his side, even if I don’t agree with it. We had a similar issue in the Gov. race here last year. It seems really black-and-white from a distance, but not so much when you’re affected.

          Newt’s personal problems don’t really bother me as much as it does others, but that doesn’t mean I completely ignore them. Character matters, and he missed the boat a couple of times there. I factor it in.

          I’d say at this time I’m leaning slightly towards Newt. I really do like a guy that’s forward looking, but I’m still very undecided and will probably be there for awhile.