Why Chinese Mothers are Tyrants


A Yale law professor named Amy Chua has the internet buzzing with an essay called Why Chinese Mothers are Superior, which appeared on the Wall Street Journal opinionjournal.com website. It begins with this proposition:

 

‘A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many math whizzes and music prodigies, what it’s like inside the family, and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because I’ve done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:

 

…attend a sleepover, have a playdate, be in a school play, complain about not being in a school play, watch TV or play computer games, choose their own extracurricular activities, get any grade less than an A, not be the No. 1 student in every subject except gym and drama, play any instrument other than the piano or violin, not play the piano or violin.’ (end of excerpt)

 

One of the pictures accompanying the essay shows a stern Chua watching over her daughter practicing the violin.

 

Thus Chua is advocating an extremist type of parenting with a joyless childhood. Yet if this parenting is so superior, where are all the great innovations emanating from China? Why is China today powered only by Western technology? Where are the breakthroughs like computers or electricity or the internal combustion engine or satellite communication that came from this wonderful family system in China? Where are the great symphonies or the complex and beautiful instruments like the violin or piano?

 

Answer: There are none. All these ideas come from European/American culture. China is a mimic culture today, just as Chinese students today are mimics who do well only by rote, surely because they have tyrannical parents who starve their children of youth. Asian students are like electronic calculators: They get the right answer and can play the right notes, but have no creativity or personality. Because their parents are creeps like Amy Chua.

 

Isn’t Chua’s choice of words telling: ‘A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids’.

 

Yes, stereotypical indeed. Because these children  are like cookie cutouts of stereotypical success, not real successes.

 

Chua writes:

 

‘What Chinese parents understand is that nothing is fun until you’re good at it. To get good at anything you have to work, and children on their own never want to work, which is why it is crucial to override their preferences. This often requires fortitude on the part of the parents because the child will resist; things are always hardest at the beginning, which is where Western parents tend to give up. But if done properly, the Chinese strategy produces a virtuous circle. Tenacious practice, practice, practice is crucial for excellence; rote repetition is underrated in America. Once a child starts to excel at something—whether it’s math, piano, pitching or ballet—he or she gets praise, admiration and satisfaction. This builds confidence and makes the once not-fun activity fun. This in turn makes it easier for the parent to get the child to work even more.’ end of excerpt)

 

This is such arrogance. Then again, Chua is a professor at Yale so she knows a thing or two about arrogance. Or a thousand things.

 

Chua writes:

 

‘Chinese parents can get away with things that Western parents can’t. Once when I was young—maybe more than once—when I was extremely disrespectful to my mother, my father angrily called me “garbage” in our native Hokkien dialect. It worked really well. I felt terrible and deeply ashamed of what I had done. … As an adult, I once did the same thing to Sophia, calling her garbage in English when she acted extremely disrespectfully toward me. When I mentioned that I had done this at a dinner party, I was immediately ostracized.’ (end of excerpt)

 

Uh, professor Chua, there is a thick line between criticism and cruelty. Apparently Chinese parents are very cruel even to their own children. Which must explain why China has had more mass murder than any other nation in history, and has contributed virtually nothing original to the world today. Because ‘fortune cookie’ does not count. Or ‘pork fry rice’.

 

Did Andrew Carnegie change the world because his mother made him study steelmaking 15 hours a day? Did Bill Gates excel because his father forced him to take thousands of hours of computer courses at Harvard?

 

No, they were self-made in the individualistic Western mold, not in the cookie-cutter Chua mold. Fred Smith, the founder of FedEx, was told by a college professor that his idea of overnight package delivery was stupid. So you wonder what slavemaster Chua would have said about Smith’s idea. Probably something like: “You go room! You bad boy! No ovah-night package!! Ovah-night gah-bage!! You learn piano! All day!”

 

Chua writes:

 

‘For example, if a child comes home with an A-minus on a test, a Western parent will most likely praise the child. The Chinese mother will gasp in horror and ask what went wrong. If the child comes home with a B on the test, some Western parents will still praise the child. Other Western parents will sit their child down and express disapproval, but they will be careful not to make their child feel inadequate or insecure, and they will not call their child “stupid,” “worthless” or “a disgrace.” (end of excerpt)

 

Yes, because we American/European parents know a concept that nasty Chinese people like Amy Chua apparently do not. It is called “parental love”.

 

Chua writes:

 

‘Second, Chinese parents believe that their kids owe them everything. The reason for this is a little unclear, but it’s probably a combination of Confucian filial piety and the fact that the parents have sacrificed and done so much for their children. (And it’s true that Chinese mothers get in the trenches, putting in long grueling hours personally tutoring, training, interrogating and spying on their kids.) Anyway, the understanding is that Chinese children must spend their lives repaying their parents by obeying them and making them proud.’ (end of excerpt)

 

Man, am I glad my mother wasn’t Chinese. If I grew up believing that I owed everything to Amy Chua, I’d be in a mental hospital by now. Or I would have jumped off the balcony.

 

Chua has a photo with the article of her daughter Sophia playing at Carnegie Hall. (By the way, Saint Sophia is the name of the most famous Christian martyr in history. Even Chua’s choice of her child’s name is Western.) These Asian child music prodigies are a dime a dozen. Here is what Chua writes about her other daughter Louisa (Lulu) learning an instrument:

 

‘Back at the piano, Lulu made me pay. She punched, thrashed and kicked. She grabbed the music score and tore it to shreds. I taped the score back together and encased it in a plastic shield so that it could never be destroyed again. Then I hauled Lulu’s dollhouse to the car and told her I’d donate it to the Salvation Army piece by piece if she didn’t have “The Little White Donkey” perfect by the next day. When Lulu said, “I thought you were going to the Salvation Army, why are you still here?” I threatened her with no lunch, no dinner, no Christmas or Hanukkah presents, no birthday parties for two, three, four years. When she still kept playing it wrong, I told her she was purposely working herself into a frenzy because she was secretly afraid she couldn’t do it. I told her to stop being lazy, cowardly, self-indulgent and pathetic.’ (end of excerpt)

 

Chua is obviously some kind of thug in the Maoist mode. But then again, she teaches at Yale and Yale is full of academic thugs looking for someone to dominate. Like their own children or their students. Playing at Carnegie Hall? Yeah, right… Lindsay Lohan starred in The Parent Trap at the same age and she is a basket case now.

 

Then you have to ask: What are Chua’s political leanings?

 

Let’s assume she is a super-liberal Yale professor with all the leftist “ideas” for society like undermining the family structure with feminism, and ruining the education system with teacher unions and propaganda from Al Gore. If so, her little gulag at the Chua house is just a dictatorial world within a dictatorial mind. Frightening…

 

And finally, think about it: Everything Chua does apparently is intended to impress people. Look! My daughter at Carnegie Hall!

 

Indeed, a hall that would not even exist if Andrew Carnegie’s mother were anything like Amy Chua. Andrew probably would have become an opium addict.

 

Can American parents be more demanding of their children? Are we slipping too far into mediocrity and permissiveness?

 

Absolutely. We need major reforms and to get away from the left’s destruction of our society through nihilism and apathy, and that is another story entirely. But the extremes of Amy Chua’s prescription are hardly the answer. This female is a menace to American society and to her children. She should go back to China where she belongs. And leave the kids here so that they can salvage something out of their lives.

 

Please visit my website at www.nikitas3.com for more. You can read excerpts from my book, Right Is Right, which explains why only conservatism can maintain our freedom and prosperity.



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What was/is amazing about traditional Western Culture

avgjo (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 9:28AM EDT (link)

is that it once produced ‘stereotypically successful’ people who were actually inventive and innovative. From our accounts of history, Western parents who produced such children could be as tyrannical as Chua describes (Beethoven’s father comes to mind), but this was definitely not always or even mostly the case (Mozart’s father, J.S. Bach, etc.). The difference was cultural. China treated knowledge as a state secret, and never gave the individual person his full value; the collective was and is all. As one of my history professors so well put it, China invented gunpowder and made fireworks; the West took gunpowder and revolutionized warfare. The west allowed the free flow of information and the individual was always important, dating all the way back to Ancient Greece.

Notice that I have been speaking of the greatness of the West in the past tense. Now, we are starting to embrace collectivism, in the name of helping the poor and saving the planet. And with often ridiculous ‘intellectual property’ laws and regulations and restrictions on the sort of experiments, technology and applications we can develop, we are starting to see innovation stifled, a problem which will only get worse in the future, barring a major change.

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

That was before the 'me' generation

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 2:25PM EDT (link)

The reality is that the Chinese way was what European and American parents used to do, before the ‘boomer’ generation. Children were to speak only when spoken to, they were to obey parents, they were to do what they were told, and they were expected to contribute. Adolescence didnt even exist until a few generations ago.

…since then, we have produced a generation of self-indulgent Boomers, who were treated differently, and now have raised kids “their way”, the low-demanding hover-craft parents who do it all for their kids.

More than one parents has ruined children that way. By failing to challenge them in their youth, they cant handle reality when they grow up and find that the world owes them nothing.

You can also check out Jared Loughner – NOT raised Chinese way, raised the American self-esteem ‘doting parent’ way. Go figure.

Exactly right.

avgjo (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 2:58PM EDT (link)

Take away the cultural differences, and the Chinese way =American/European way.

As for your comment on adolescence, 55555!

I read a great article by a computer scientist about ‘nerds’ and why they suffer in high school. He made the point that teenagers have the problems they are famous for because they are no longer treated as junior members of adult society, but rather as really big children.

When you look back at the Founders’ time, 14 and 15 year olds were often on the brink of setting out on their own career, having already received several years of training/apprenticeship. And funny thing, society wasn’t ‘dysfunctional’.

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 
 
 

Stereotypes and child-rearing

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 2:17PM EDT (link)

“Asian students are like electronic calculators: They get the right answer and can play the right notes, but have no creativity or personality. Because their parents are creeps like Amy Chua. ”

Stereotype much? This is a bogus stereotype that is both childish and false, the kind of dumb stereo type that are used to put down academic acheivers in high school. Were you a D student? You really think the dumb jocks had better ‘personality’ types than A students?

“Which must explain why China has had more mass murder than any other nation in history, and has contributed virtually nothing original to the world today.”

Ahem, I guess you didn’t notice that China now is near the top in patent filings. Or that many of the engineering profs at top schools are Asians. Or that China is on its way to being a 21century superpower.

Complacency is unbecoming.

“Can American parents be more demanding of their children? Are we slipping too far into mediocrity and permissiveness?
Absolutely. ”

So what’s the beef with her parenting style? She is a controlling parent who grooms her kids for high achievement. Too much of this might be bad, but you never really know, and even you acknowledge we dont do enough of it. Maybe taking some of her ideas would benefit us.

It is a myth and a dangerous one at that, in which we allow children the illusion that they know what is best for their own long-term well-being. They don’t.
Call it the Disney myth, where all the kids are smarter than parents.
They are not. Children are naturally short-sighted and instant-gratification focussed, and if you dont rigorous train them away from that mindset, they keep it. And grow up to be self-indulgent in their lifestyle (self-centered), politics (Liberal) and work bevahior (lazy and low advancement). If you dont know any ‘arrested development’ types, you havent gotten out much.

Demanding children behave and work and achieve sounds callous, but then why do we even bother with schooling if that is a problem? Why subject kids to 10,000 hours of classroom boredom if that is so wrong? And if it isnt wrong, what is wrong with a parent demanding 3 hours of music practice? Or the “A’ grade that proves the kid is actually accomplishing something with their time in school?

Catering to children’s whims and self-esteem and refusing to challenge the children is a way to get lazy, self-indulgent incompetent adults. That does NOBODY any favors.

“Indeed, a hall that would not even exist if Andrew Carnegie’s mother were anything like Amy Chua. Andrew probably would have become an opium addict. ”

This is a bizarre and counterfactual claim. Demanding parents are more likely to produce drug addicts than indulgent ones? False and worse than false, like most of this over-reacting screed.

Oh I would not be so sure

Menlo (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 6:17PM EDT (link)

I’ll bet a good portion of those “patent filings” have already been patented. As for being a “superpower,” that’s what the Chinese want the world to believe; and they’ll go to great lengths to make it look that way. The term is relative though.

How well one does in an engineering school doesn’t say anything about inventiveness and creativity. I can tell you that from experience. Of course anyone of any ethnic or cultural background can be inventive and creative. It’s just more of a defining characteristic for some cultures than others.

I do not think it is wrongly stereotyping to describe a culture. Many Chinese describe their culture that way all the time. I’d advise you read Paul Midler’s “Poorly Made in China.” China does have a culture of doing things for appearance and national prestige. It also has one of counterfeiting and copying (including manufacturing).

I also remember that growing up in southern California, several of my friends were Chinese; and I thought their parents were abusive. I’ve heard and read similar stories quite often throughout my life, mostly from Chinese people themselves. I don’t doubt Amy Chua’s parenting style is probably common among Chinese parents.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

I know from experience ...

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 9:43PM EDT (link)

“How well one does in an engineering school doesn’t say anything about inventiveness and creativity.”

Yes it does. Lousy students rarely make top scientists, engineers, etc. Good student can actually get it RIGHT.

Like the “disney myth” of beleiving that kids are smarter than parents, we have the “Lethal Weapon” myth, that ‘creative’ types have to be destructive, off-the-wall non-conformists.

WRONG. Most of the patents filed are from boring, normal, smart, hard-working engineers who – yikes – probably did very well in school. Surely there are exceptions to the rule, but this myth that ‘inventiveness’ and a hippie-type person is a pernicious one that is destructive to actual technical excellence.

” I can tell you that from experience.”

I can tell YOU from experience … our top technical talent is devoid of American-born engineers.
We raise our kids wrong, we educate them wrong, we expect too little of them, and then because of the lack of skilled people, we import our brains … from China, Russia, India, etc.

I know. I hold some patents. Work with technical inventive colleagues and, yikes, most were not born in the USA. They were probably raised by traditional tough parents like Amy Chua.

Laugh at China all you want. Tell yourself lies about their weakness. Meanwhile we have an inexperienced affirmative-action narcissist lawyer for President, while they have tough, smart engineers in their top echelons. Our economy is growing at under 3%, they are growing at 9%. And in 2011 they will lead the world in patent filings …

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/06/china-poised-to-lead-world-in-patent-filings/

“Of course anyone of any ethnic or cultural background can be inventive and creative. It’s just more of a defining characteristic for some cultures than others”

Yes. It’s become a defining characteristic of the USA that we can’t remember what got us here and are raising kids in ways that won’t carry us forward. So we have Asian (and other) immigrants fill the gap of our failed child-rearing. How abusive we are to deny our children the opportunity to excel through mis-begotten ‘bigotry of low expectations’!

We abuse our children when we don’t prepare them for the rigors of a global economy, in the process making them mentally challenged kids at worst, and forcing them to learn reality the hard way later on in life at best. … and we call *them* abusive.

I think you misunderstand.

Menlo (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 10:37PM EDT (link)

I’m not laughing off China. I think it’s a greater danger than Iran or even any Islamic terrorist group. That’s the fault of American political and business interests who have since Nixon enabled and supported their vile practices. However, the best and only ethical solution to that problem is to put a much-deserved and much-needed embargo on the nation.

I don’t doubt your point about students from China. However, I will say the college I went to was more set on teaching theory than practice, especially at the top levels; and I strongly suspect universities’ diversity quotas play a role.

Still, it’s very different here than it is there. I don’t care about patent filings. I’m still betting a large proportion of them are counterfeits, a key trait of Chinese culture. China will become a danger, not because of genuine superiority but because American political and business interests have allowed and even encouraged them to.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 
 
 
 

Mother Superior

pac_NY (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 2:47PM EDT (link)

After I read Amy Chua’s editorial, I thought to myself, “Wow. And my kids thought I was a bit too strict!” – but by Ms. Chua’s standards, I would be deemed grossly negligent of my children.

I believe our “educators” and “child experts” have convinced far too many parents to coddle their kids lest they deflate their children’s precious self-esteem, but obviously this doesn’t help kids in the long run when they become adults in a world not guaranteed to tiptoe around their fragile self-esteem in life.

With the Amy Chua’s parenting model, coerced obedience and burdened in life-long obligation to parental sacrifices is not the same as a child’s true affection for their parents who lovingly guide them to reach their own potential in life, and decide if they even want to play a musical instrument – without calling them garbage and threatening to withhold food from them.

He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke. -Psalm 104:32

 

It's most likely

itrytobenice (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 2:48PM EDT (link)

that this Chua person is trying to justify her cruelty to her children by saying that everyone does it. I know the work ethic is strong among our immigrant population. My sister in law is from the Phillipines and she expects good performance from her children, but so does my Marine brother in law.

But that doesn’t mean that they would prohibit their children from living lives and joining extracurricular activities or playing. This lady is off her rocker if she thinks that a child will be more successful if he/she is treated as a project to be mastered and used as a spotlight to bring glory to the parent. Children are a blessing and they generally do well when we treat them well and expect great things of them.

What this lady is describing is far from a normal parent/child relationship though, and I don’t envy her children their lives or her any success they may have. She can claim no authorship, as anything they do is in spite of a poor parent, not due to a great one.

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


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On the other hand

pac_NY (Diary) Monday, January 17th at 5:13PM EDT (link)

maybe parents should send their kids to Ms. Amy Chua’s boot camp for a couple of months so they would really learn to appreciate the “inferior” parents they have.

He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke. -Psalm 104:32