I’ve been watching the Minnesota Senate recount with a depressing sense of déja vu. After all, we had our own recount fiasco here in Washington in 2004, when King County stole the gubernatorial election for Christine Gregoire, which is the long way of saying that I had very little hope from the beginning that this election would turn any other way than with Al Franken being declared the winner.
Today, however, I chanced upon an interesting tidbit of information. There were two “third party” candidates in the race along with Franken and the incumbent, Norm Coleman. The Independent Party candidate, Dean Barkley, won over 437,000 votes. Speculation is that those votes would have been divided between Franken and Coleman, with the edge going to Franken. The Constitution Party candidate for the Minnesota Senate seat, James Niemackl, won somewhere in the neighborhood of 8,000 votes. Unlike the votes for Dean Barkley, however, those votes likely came straight out of Norm Coleman’s tally.
Niemackl’s statement from the Minnesota Constitution Party’s website:
Our actions are the measure of our character. What we say is meaningless without following up our words with action. Those who say one thing to our face and do another behind our back cannot be trusted with the awesome responsibility to serve us in office. Our nation has come to the breaking point because we continue to tolerate the deception and corruption within our government.
It is time for drastic change. A movement has begun in America to bring about change and to return our nation to a land of liberty. That movement crosses party lines and demographic differences. People that were once in conflict with each other are joining together in a common cause, to restore the rights and liberties guaranteed in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. We must seize the opportunity to restore our rights.
Please join us in reclaiming our Constitutional Rights. Together we can transform our government so that it is once again a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
James Niemackl is obviously a man of character. Running a senatorial campaign is no small commitment and any person who undertakes to do so out of love for this country and our freedoms is to be commended. We need people who are willing to stand on principle and protect our Constitutional freedoms.
On the other hand, where has Niemackl’s candidacy brought us? Closer to our goal of preserving our freedoms? Probably not if Al Franken is eventually seated in the U.S. Senate. If Niemackl’s 8,000 votes had gone to Coleman, we would not be considering the appalling prospect of Senator Franken today.
And this brings me to the double edged sword. Principle can cut through the opposition like a scythe or it can pierce you through to the marrow. Now more than ever, when state and national elections can be won or lost by a relative handful of votes, we must unite every “right of center” voter. Niemackl undoubtedly shares more beliefs about the role of government with Coleman than he does with Franken, yet his principled stand may have cost Coleman his Senate seat.
We cannot afford what has become a luxury: the luxury to stand on principle when compromise is the only realistic option. Even a moderate Senator is to be preferred over a liberal buffoon such as Al Franken. The best course of action for would-be third party conservative candidates is to work from within the Republican party structure and to work to sway public opinion to their values. To do otherwise is to split the vote and and invite defeat. I hope that James Niemackl and his supporters are finding comfort in their principles today.
Cross posted at It’s Only Words
Our actions are the measure of our character. What we say is meaningless without following up our words with action. Those who say one thing to our face and do another behind our back cannot be trusted with the awesome responsibility to serve us in office. Our nation has come to the breaking point because we continue to tolerate the deception and corruption within our government.
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Ack. Couldn't get past your calling Norm "Ron"
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 1:01AM EST (link)Pls proofread.
JE
Thanks
itsonlywords (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:12AM EST (link)For pointing that out…could have sworn I corrected that. How embarrassing!
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
You can't have it both ways PaulaAG1955.
stang (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 2:32AM EST (link)Two statements from your diary.
“We need people who are willing to stand on principle and protect our Constitutional freedoms.”
“We cannot afford what has become a luxury: the luxury to stand on principle when compromise is the only realistic option.”
“When compromise is the only realistic option” for what!? Is it any wonder that the individual you refer to in your first statement would likely share my revulsion at your second statement.
Either you are willing to stand by those Constitutional Principles you claim to admire or you are not. He should join the Republicans even as they ask him to abandon his values for expediency’s sake?
My issues with Republicans ( I am conservative, not Republican), as I suspect is the case with Mr. Niemackl, are that nearly all of them are neither republicans nor much interested in fealty to the principles enumerated in the Constitution. Please point out to me for example, any one of the current candidates for the RNC Chair that has discussed how their leadership will embrace and enhance the intent, if not the letter, of our single most important foundational document or the role they feel it should play in the formulation of party policy.
So which is it? He should join Republicans because his small group can’t win without them or should Republicans be joining him in his embrace of the principles that this country was founded on and the Constitution that was created to protect those principles? If you agree with his values and if those were really Republican Party values, he wouldn’t need to be convinced to join, would he?
Compromise, untethered to principles, is what has brought us here.
“The only difference between them and my girls is that my girls gave a man his money’s worth.”
Pearl Adler
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
This is "Ron Coleman" btw.
stang (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 2:39AM EST (link)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4WDlbqME4Y
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
Hey stang
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 3:39AM EST (link)If you’re not a Republican, why are you on this site? This is a conservative AND Republican community.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
FDT, Neil.
stang (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:59AM EST (link)Is being a Republican Party member now a requisite for participation here? I think you are familiar enough with my thinking to know why I’m here.
If you would like me to leave, just say so.
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
Actually I don't know who you are
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:01AM EST (link)I’m not asking you to leave, but I will ask you to cease agitating against the Republican party here.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
My apologies, Neil.
stang (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:15AM EST (link)It is not my intention to agitate “against” Republicans but to agitate “for” them to be more representative of their namesake. My bad.
http://www.redstate.com/stang/2008/11/13/honoring-the-original-contract-with-america/
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
I think I can have it both ways.
itsonlywords (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:14AM EST (link)I want people to stand on principle within the Republican Party. I don’t see a problem with that.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
I don't see a problem with that either, Paula.
stang (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:01AM EST (link)But why did so many conservatives stay home or vote for third parties this last election cycle? It is a thorny dilemma Paula. Like many other conservatives, I have held my nose and voted R because, unlike Mr. Niemackl, I agree that arresting the damage the the left is doing is important. But how and where do you draw the line on the compromises that must be made to win elections?
“You may either win your peace or buy it: win it, by resistance to evil; buy it, by compromise with evil.”
John Ruskin
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
Frankin would not be here
nivlem (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 10:40PM EST (link)without “Obamamania” …
Coleman would not be here if he were a true conservative, and a third party
candidate would not he here if the above two factors did not haphad pen at the
same time.
Conservatives cannot lose their focus being mired into this type of
hyperbole.
We did not have a conservative candidate. We had an appeasing
candidate. We, as conservatives, were not even present. Let us not forget that fact.
I've never even been in Minnesota!
Ron Coleman Saturday, January 10th at 9:14PM EST (link)I am indeed Ron Coleman! You wouldn’t mistake me for Norm Coleman, but although I may have more in common with certain aspects of Al Franken I would certainly vote for Norm over him!
And either I have one more fan than I realized or Paula likes bodybuilders!
Ron Coleman
LOL
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 9:19PM EST (link)Who made that mistake?….I remember that!
I found it....
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 9:21PM EST (link)np
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OccamsRazor (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 9:43PM EST (link)You must be off early tonight. There are only lurkers tonight, but the night is young, and Welcome anway.
I wonder if he vanished?....
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 9:49PM EST (link)i have that effect lately….
And…his site is pretty funny…
Darn it!...somebody keeps taking my FISH...
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 9:57PM EST (link)Vanishing Snappers…
Hey OccamsRazor...
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 10:16PM EST (link)….do you play chess?
Chess
OccamsRazor (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 11:00PM EST (link)I have played-yes. It’s an archaic game orgininated in the Mideast, the Chinese thought at one time it’d solve our differences in war (chuckle), and I personally know people who have beaten Grand Masters but ultimately those same people have whipped my butt so…no-I refuse to admit it.
Why?
I always like to be 2 moves ahead...
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 11:10PM EST (link)Now…I’m thinkin that’s not enough….lol
Offline
OccamsRazor (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 11:22PM EST (link)How do I get ahold of you offline? I’m not gonna comment on the gravitis of that question.
sorry...my sense of humor is warped...I'll leave you alone
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 11:29PM EST (link)my bad
Hahhaha
OccamsRazor (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 11:36PM EST (link)I like your new shield.
I just remembered....this is a no Weenie zone..
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 10th at 11:46PM EST (link)So I’m not sorry…..and I really would have Gravitas…….. if i didn’t have to do stuff