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At the risk of losing friends and alienating everyone…

I know a lot of you and are friends with many  more. Ive gotten to live blog here and sit in on live chats during important times in this nation’s history.

I care a great deal about my family, friends and country.

I am greatful for those experiences. Even more greatful for the ear and soap box which this place allows me to speak from. Such is the need tonight and I pray that it still may be afterward.

If people would allow me to be transparent for a moment I would like to pour out burden placed on my heart over the past couple of weeks, which more or less came to a head this afternoon.

Honestly, Ive been getting physically sick over the debate on the debt limit and the direction and form its taken on.

The debate is a very serious matter. It represents the future we all want for our kids and families. It is the reason why I posted repeatedly the need to pass a balanced budget amendment and to work toward positive policy solutions.

Yet, in the end, our political foe sees the matter as a mear campaign ploy. Push the right buttons and the TEA party breaks off and runs third party. Press another set of buttons and those squishies in the middle run away from Republicans. Press a final set  the whole group implodes on command the whole group implodes on command.

This is where we are tonight.

On one end of the spectrum there are Democrats and President Obama with the media parroting their talking points at will pushing for gauranteed tax inceases which would erase the earlier lame duck session compromise. The result, of course, would disasterous for the Republican Party – and rightfully so given why they were sent to Washington in the first place. It is a win-win for President Obama as he would get to keep his raise taxes on the rich campaign promise while nuking the core constituency of the GOP.

The other end of the spectrum are those who believe it is a okay to not raise the debt limit, thereby creating some sort of by default balanced budget in which only vital things are paid for. Folks, these are the things which are made of unicorns and oompa loompas.  When President Obama threatens to cut Social Security and Medicare if he doesnt get his way, you better listen. This is the same President who did not list pay for our soldiers as vital and necessary funding  as a way to up the ante.

Mark my words, President Obama will inflict as much political pain as possible on this nation to get his way with policy. The media will do what ever they can to promote that pain and focus it on the Republican party.

Then there is another part of the spectrum who wants to do things was may be politcally expedient to get the media off their back, but hand over their Constitutional authority to the President. This is equally as silly as all the approaches above.

Of course, what makes matters worse for us conservatives, is the desire to melt down opposition, even if it is friendly, with laser-like accuracy.

Im not sure  when or if people will understand the inherent need for each other – or the consequences if we do choose to continue and throttle each other for our failures – but I am pretty sure Democrats know and get it.

Should we accept failure? Depends on how you define it.

For instance, I completely disagree with Erick that the GOP “failed” to repeal Obamacare. The House of Representatives passed a repeal bill. To some how believe the Democrat controlled senate would repeal Obamacare, and President Obama would sign such a bill is worse than crazy, its assinine.

On the other hand, failing to use every trick in the book to block Obamacare would constitute failure. A failure to even try. Especially given that Democrats tried every rule in the book.

Still, as I’ve said before, I did not sign on to black list people within our own party and movement.

Maybe its just my upbringing and the way God made me, but I tend to look at the person as a whole.

It is one thing to call for a new leader or propose policy. It is another to call for and demand people drop support for and black list other wise good people.

Maybe someone should explain the logic to me in the matter, especially when we are going nose to nose with what I deam a politically ruthless individual.

There is a reason I label my self as a Reagan Republican. I believe in his optimism. I believe in trying my best – yes – to get along with who God puts in my path.

It is a difference between fighting for whats right at the right time and governing.

Yes, we must fight and hold the line. However if presented with a solution which takes us 80% of the way, then we should accept it.

That does not mean I support tax increases, as it would destroy conservatives, Republicans in 2012 as breaking a major campaign promise and what little is left in the private sector economy.

It does not mean I support McConnell’s position of handing Congress’s Constitutional authority over to the President. That is equally as wrong.

It does mean if we get the perverbial one year extension with cuts equallying the amount of debt, I would take it.

It also means that I will respect my fellow conservatives and Republicans without calling for them to be blacklisted, even if I disagree vehemently with them.

Lastly, it means when I face God in prayer I may do so with a clean conscience.

COMMENTS

  • Finrod

    And I agree with you that it’s not realistic to not raise the debt limit at all, and that it’s not a good idea to follow McConnell’s fallback plan.

    I would call Erick’s frontpage post about McConnell a vote of no confidence. At some point we have to realize that McConnell is an ineffective leader and that we would be better off with someone else. I wouldn’t call that blacklisting.

    Except for that, I’m with you.

    • Paul Seale

      In fact I pointed out several epic fails, including the plan z policy in front of us.

      Telling people that redstate (the conservative community) will refuse to support a candidate just because they support McConnell for leadership is, at least to me, blacklisting them.

      It isnt based on merrit or votes – just supporting a single person for leadership.

      I would argue the standard is both unfair and does damage.

      This post, however, is more than just the post today – its about whats been happening over the past few months.

      There is a time and place for leadership battles. This aint it, I dont think. Although I could be dreadfully wrong.

      In my view, we need to hang tough together and find solutions and move forward.

      Thanks for posting! Much appreciated!

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        any plan that Obama would sign, but the import of what you say “seems” (I’m guessing) to imply that we should, in the end, agree to anything Obama demands given his threat to CHOOSE not to pay seniors, orphans and the disabled.

        Correct me if I’m wrong. Or you would risk calling Obama’s bluff if he requires tax increases?

        • Paul Seale

          To clarify, I certainly would not sign on to anything Obama demands. Quite the contrary.

          I guess therein lies an internal contradiction I am struggling with my self.

          By that I mean I really dont feel like “calling Obama’s bluff” because I dont think he is bluffing. I believe that President Obama would be willing to put our nation through great pains (Dems have been begging for that govt shut down moment since Nov of last year) just to score political points.

          However, would I sign on to a deal with tax increases? No. Absolutely not.

          So theres my internal contradiction I am not sure how to honestly resolve.

          Can I see “loops holes” being closed to “raise revenue” – sure. But it would be honest to God tax code abuses and subsidies in which the government picks winners and losers.

          Such reform in the tax code, however, must not stop honest deductions like business expenses like equipment purchases.

          I hope that makese sense.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            I recently wrote a column calling Obama out for his threat against bondholders, seniors, orphans and the disabled and the Repubs for not calling Obama out. i think the Moody’s declaration was due to the fact they they too believe Obama could intentionally cause a crisis. Now I say, why hasn’t Fox News or Speaker Boehner subpoenaed or made a FOIA request for the balance sheet upon which they base their Aug 2 Armeggedon.

            Obama has increased the risk of a pre-Aug 2 financial crisis due to HIM ALONE.

            Show us the balance sheet!

            see pilgrim’s blog:

            http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2011/07/19/cuba-gooding-should-school-speaker-boehner-on-dealing-with-tim-geithner/#comment-2353

            I don’t know what we should do. I wanted us to fight harder against Obama the past few weeks. We haven’t. I have even come 180 and favor NOT raising the debt ceiling because I think a crisis inevitable soon due to the debt itself and the amount of dollars the Fed has put out.

            But I’m not elected. I have this luxury and I don’t believe that America will ever stop the spending madness before a huge crisis….not even with all three branches. But that’s just me.

            I certainly sympathize with your dilemma, but I would suggest that its best to base objections on the merits of bills and not Obama’s latest musing. I doubt we can get anything good done with him as President which is One reason I was somewhat encouraged by his endorsement of the Coburn tax reform proposal.

            more later

            PS I always appreciate your contributions here brother.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2011/07/14/moody-markets-convinced-obama-wont-pay-debts-out-of-spite/

          • Paul Seale

            Commentary and encouragement makes a big difference.

            Thank you.

            p.s. the Coburn 9T reduction proposal looks sharp. I want more information on it, though.

            Hope we can move more torward that sort of plan with a balanced budget amendment in place.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            and have for a decade (see also David Horowitz on this)

            http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2011/07/05/let-them-eat-corporate-jet-hatred/

  • luvnthebigsites

    You make some strong valid points. Now let me make a few.

    We are borrowing 188 million dollars an hour and spending it on nothing of value. Our Nations proverbial “FICO” score is about to go from bad to ugly, NOW… Not in 2012. Our parties Leader in the senate has proposed a plan to give the executive branch some extra-constitutional authority to spend another 2+ trillion dollars that we don’t have.

    We cant afford to play political games anymore. Period. The clock has run out and its crunch time. Black listing McConnell supporters, (while ugly) is a necessary escalation in a fight that we MUST win.

    Guys like McConnell need to understand that “Happy Time” is over. There is no gray area to work in anymore, Your going to Cut Cap and Balance or your not. Everyone, no matter what there political stripes is going to have to pick sides. And its quite clear to me what side McConnell has chosen.

    • Paul Seale

      I only wanted to make a positive impact and make people think for a moment, at least.

      I understand where you are coming from and agree completely about the serious problem we face.

      I completely agree with you that the McConnell plan is over the top in the level of bone headedness. It hands over constitutional power to the president – which is nuts.

      However, I cannot in good faith drop support for a good elected official solely on the basis of who they may vote for or support for leadership.

      Thank you for posting your comment, it is encouraging.

  • carolina

    I’m optimistic that they will work out something. It can’t be any more of a let-down than the CR agreement.
    McConnel is just keeping Reid busy so the real work can get done. ;-)

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      since the CR did not involve bondholders.

  • carolina

    I’m optimistic that they will work out something. It can’t be any more of a let-down than the CR agreement.
    McConnel is just keeping Reid busy so the real work can get done. ;-)

    • izoneguy

      That if he persists with ruining the economy he WILL be worse than Carter and that legacy will be lousy for book sales.

  • Spiral

    There’s been a lot of anger let loose during this debt limit debate. I think your post here is very good because you have stripped away enough of the emotion to get to the all the issues that we should be worried about, heading into the 2012 election cycle.

    I agree that McConnell’s plan is too complicated and unconstitutional. I think his main contribution, however, was to signal that under no cicrumstances would he support passing the August 3rd deadlne without raising the debt limit (or unconstitutionally giving Obama the authority to raise it).

    In other words, McConnell made it clear that the Congressional leadership would not support a “do it my way or we will refuse to raise the debt limit” position.

    McConnell also explained his reason for his position on Laura Ingraham’s radio show. Right now, Obama and the Democrats are, in the public mind, responsible for the economy. If the GOP refuses to raise the debt ceiling, the GOP will become co-owners (or worse, full owners) of the bad economy.

    Right now, a GOP take over of the US Senate and the White House in 2012 is very likely, given how badly the Democrats have managed this country over the past years.

    What McConnell is basically saying is this: When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, get out of the way.

    Now, some say, “Yes. But as the Obama and the Democrats destroy themselves, they are destroying the country. And it is the GOP’s responsibility to prevent the country from being destroyed.”

    I respect that view. But I disagree. The voters in 2010 did not give the GOP control over the US Senate and the office of the Presidency was not on the ballot.

    To turn this country around the GOP must have the US House, the US Senate and the White House. The whole enchilada. In addition, the GOP should eliminate the filibuster rule, whereby 41 Democrats can prevent the GOP from turning the country around.

    The bottom line is that McConnell is correct. Wait until 2012. Make the case that Obama and the Democrats have done a lousy job (which is obvious to most Americans). Don’t do anything that raises the profile of the GOP too high, especially when it comes to a failure to raise the debt limit in time to meet all of our obligations.

    Then, in January 2013 start the process of turning the country around.

    Many conservatives don’t want to hear McConnell’s message. But McConnell’s message is absolutely correct. You can’t run the country from the US House of Representative and the GOP should not try.

    • Paul Seale

      Any time Congress is handing over its Constitutional duties as a way of dodging the political ball it is wrong. Period.

      McConnell had no business dropping a hint of plan z while negotiations were happening. I am sure it took a lot of our leverage to get something decent away.

      However, I refuse to black list a sound conservative elected official because they may decide to vote for McConnell as Senate Minority Leader.

      I also refuse to take the position that any compromise is wrong – and those who find a reasonable deal are RINOs – when the deal will get us 80% of what we want.

      What is not acceptable is a tax increase or any deal which extends the debt without some sort of significant cut.

      Lastly, I also believe our newly elected officials have been doing a lot of work which is going under appreciated and should not be under assault due to real world constraints.

      We didnt fail to repeal Obamacare in any sort of negligent manner, nor has Obama gotten a free reign as he did the first few years in office.

      What worries me most is the time, effort and pledges we are spending inflicting damage to our selves when we need to be focused on Democrats in 2012.

      I suppose we havent learned the complete lessons of 06, 08 and 10 yet.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        negotiations so far, as far as we know now. They have not called out Obama for his threats to not pay bondholders pr Soc Sec even though the money for same will be there Aug 2. Hell, they haven’t even subpoenaed Geithner’s balance sheet to show cash on hand etc. They just accept the Aug 2 date.

        Moreover, they haven’t prepared the public to have Obama get the blame for the dire consequences. Their incompetence does pose a dilemma for us.

        • Michael Dugas

          McConnell also explained his reason for his position on Laura Ingraham?s radio show. Right now, Obama and the Democrats are, in the public mind, responsible for the economy. If the GOP refuses to raise the debt ceiling, the GOP will become co-owners (or worse, full owners) of the bad economy.

          American citizens are suffering, wealth and security are disappearing because our representatives are “scared” to do the “right” thing because it’s going to be painful and they are worried about their own self interests over ours. McConnell admits as much fearing Republicans might get stuck with the economic blame if they stick to their guns and do the right thing. So what happens? Fixing whats wrong gets put off longer and longer and more and more damage is done to us and our economy.

          We need to slam our House Reps with demands that they stick to their guns on Cap, Cut & Balance and we need to hammer home to our Senators that we consider any other bill other that C.C. & B. to be a surrender and a knife in the back to the voters.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            election lesson. Their fears are unwarranted.

          • Spiral

            Here is the fundamental problem we are dealing with right now.

            Let’s start wih the obvious.

            The federal government is spending much more money than it receiving in revenue. About 40 cents out of every federal dollar spent is in excess of tax revenue.

            The conservative solution to this problem is to cut spending. However, no member of congress has put forth a spending cut plan that would cut spending by 40 percent in the near term.

            So, implicitly, all 535 members of Congress, by not supporting a detailed plan to cut federal spending by 40 percent in the near term, support having the federal government borrow more money.

            The only question is whether the additional amount of borrowing is small, medium or large.

            Failing to cut spending while failing to raise the debt ceiling is a bad idea too.

            So, the responsible thing to do is two-fold:

            (and this was basically Francis Cianfrocca’s idea)

            [1] Raise the debt ceiling to avoid having the federal government welching on its legal financial obligations.

            [2] Have Congress discuss ways to cut federal spending (no tax increases).

            Realistically, however, part [2] is not going to happen as long as the Democrats control either the US House, the US Senate or the White House. Currently, the Democrats control 2 of these 3 chambers.

            For spending reduction to take place, the GOP needs to control all 3 of these chambers, the US House, the US Senate and the White House. The whole enchilada.

            And even GOP control over the US House, the US Senate and the White House is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for significant cuts in federal spending.

            Why?

            Because some Republican Congressmen, even some of those who are unwilling to vote to raise the debt limit, are unwilling to vote to cut spending.

            That’s right.

            Many tea-party congressmen blather on about how we need fiscal responsibility in Washington DC, but on the floor of the US House, they vote to increase spending on programs that impact their voters.

            So, it’s going to be a long slog.

            The first step is to quit play acting about how the US will become a deadbeat and not pay its legal financial obligations.

            The second step is for the GOP to win the US Senate and the White House in 2012.

            The third step is for the GOP lead government in January 2013 to cut spending.

            Even if they do all that, the debt ceiling will still need to be raised because it is very, very, very, unlikely that a GOP lead government in January 2013 will cut spending by 40 percent in the near term.

            Remember the title of this comment.

            The debt limit was always the wrong tool in the tool shed.

          • Spiral

            Another way to look at this debt limit issue.

            Some conservatives have made the mistake of classifying a vote against raising the debt limit as a vote of fiscal conservatism and a vote in favor of raising the debt limit as a voe of fiscal liberalism/socialism.

            Problem is, this isn’t true.

            A member of congress can vote as hard-left as Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders on every fiscal issue out there. Vote to increase spending on all categories of social welfare programs. Vote against reductions in entitlement programs. Vote to expand existing entitlement programs.

            And then. . . . .

            Vote against raising the debt limit.

            Voting in favor of increasing the debt limit is not liberal or socialist.

            Voting against increasing the debt limit is not conservative.

            Turning the United States of America into a financial debtbeat has never been part of the conservative agenda, until now, it seems.

          • Michael Dugas

            You state there is a two fold responsibility or process that needs to be done,

            [1] Raise the debt ceiling to avoid having the federal government welching on its legal financial obligations.

            [2] Have Congress discuss ways to cut federal spending (no tax increases).

            But then you readily admit that it basically is impossible with Democrats in any sort of leadership role.
            And the problem with waiting to try and deal with it when we “win” the Senate and Presidency is that if we don’t show some action now and work to begin fixing things NOW we’ll probably lose seats in the House and you can forget the Senate and POTUS. The Republican base is and the Tea Party activists are NOT going to patiently wait for their Representatives to catch up to their level of suffering. If the debt ceiling is raised and it appears that we caved and got nothing but an unenforceable promise to discuss future cuts there’s going to be hell to pay among Republican and Conservative voters who will not forgive them for what will be viewed as the politicizing of our economic suffering.
            Also it is a huge gamble to assume that our economy HAS until after
            the election to begin turning this beast around. It very well could crash before that time.

          • Spiral

            I tend to think that you are wrong in your political predictions.

            November 2012 is shaping up to be a very bad year for the Democrats, given the fact that the economy has stalled out with unemployment over 9 percent.

            To be blunt, the Democrats are going to get stomped if two conditions are met:

            [1] The federal government does not shut down

            [2] The debt ceiling is raised, prevent the US government from welching on its legal/financial obligations.

            In other words, unless the GOP draws the attention of the American people away from Obama’s incompetence and towards GOP stubbornness, the GOP will win big in 2012, very big.

            We, the GOP, really have 2 choices.

            We can try to force Obama and Harry Reid to become born again fiscal conservatives

            or

            we can try to win the 2012 electons running against the Obama-Reid record of economic non-performance.

            It’s an easy choice, really.

      • funwithknives

        especially in your final sentence. Politics and everything concerned with it moves at a pace that a majority can digest and accept. This Synthesis/Dialectic is A Reality, as much as we all want to think otherwise. How is it Put? “First, it’s a cause. Then, it’s a business. Finally it becomes a racket , and the hucksters move in.” We got’em at CAUSE for now. Alliances will win this but all our expectations are not feasible. You hit it on the head: What is the 80% solution? KISS for maximal understanding and unification. If winning is the plan, then let’s act like it. “Can’t drive THE CAR,till you’re in The Seat”

  • http://teapartisan.wordpress.com Loren Heal

    There are two components that you mostly need to think about.

    First, the politicians are concerned with the politics of the debt ceiling increase. They know the polls say people don’t want it. That is why Obama is going straight for entitlements, saying that if he doesn’t get a debt limit increase he won’t be able to send out SS checks. It’s a big fat lie.

    It’s a lie because “default” is a straw man. It’s been said elsewhere: our debt payments are about 15% of our monthly income. What “default” means is that the president would choose to cut the interest payment portion of our budget, in something of a violation of the 14th amendment.

    The effect of that would be problematic, but not the apocalypse the pundits are predicting. It would be more difficult to sell our bonds, so we’d probably have to spend more in interest. Lots and lots more. It would be self-defeating for Obama, however, since what he wants is to spend more, and having to budget higher interest keeps him, on some level, from being able to spend it on other things.

    There might be other secondary effects, such as international markets turning away from the US dollar as their currency of choice.

    But that would be Obama’s decision. The calculus is: do we trust Obama to act in his own rational self interest, or don’t we? And if we don’t think he would be willing to act in his own rational self interest, why on Earth would we be willing to hand him a $2.4 trillion blank check?

    The trouble for Republicans in the McConnell camp is that their politics are not aligned with their policy. They want to allow their opponent to carry out a detrimental policy, with the hope of blaming him later. But to get the blame, he would have to inflict harm on the country.

    It’s far better to align politics with policy, and say “No” to Obama. Say no, and keep saying “No”, until he comes up with a proposal we find acceptable. If he chooses to default on the debt, impeach him.

    We must insist on using this leverage point, whether the media whine about it or not.

    If that upsets you, consider that a great number of young men and women will be sleeping on dirt in a country not their own this night, so that we can have this debate. Is it not worth even an upset stomach, when they are risking so much more?

    • Paul Seale

      Thank you for the note, it matters.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        of the Empire State Building and around floor number 101 tries to get a mattress put on the sidewalk. The crisis IS coming due to the Fed dollars spued around the world and the absolute amount of the debt as a % of the economy and the budget. The question is when will the crisis come and would the consequences be significantly changed based on when. I think the crisis will come soon, debt ceiling issue or not and that it doesn’t really matter from an economic standpoint what we put on paper before. That might be wrong if Obama would actually sign a major reduction in the size of government. But i doubt even a majority of the GOP could pass what would be required to avert disaster. The Dollar has been destroyed by Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Bernanke.

  • renny

    so it is hard to believe he wants to poke the hornet’s next of Soc. Sec. and get 50,000,000 voting seniors mad at him for stiffing their SS checks.

    The House should hold as firm as possible, and we can pass the debt limit and the world will not fall apart as we have argued over the limit before and missed so-called deadlines.

    We are not going to be able to cut a trillion in a couple weeks to balance the budget, but we should push as hard as possible to cut the 24% increased spending o and crew came up with in 2.5 years and cut the 24% (again) rise in federal employees and all their perks and pensions, yadda.

    Then we should combine the 100s of job assistance and training programs, the multitude of agricultural supports and restrictions and that whole labyrinth (as now there are almost as many ag. employees as ind. farmers left in the US), all the needless supports for “green” technology ($53 billion a year), and claw back where we can: $127 in unspent stimulus with its earmarks for the discredited ACORN just in time for more election fraud, the $138 TARP repayments, as much of the $84 billion given GM and Chrysler as possible, and at least get back to 2008 budget levels and keep any deifcit below 1/2 a trillion until a really balanced budget is possible.

  • Ned Reck

    Good fella like you would always be a good friend to have… no matter how addle-brained he gets.

    C’mon… shake it off… let’s me and you go out and get somethin’ to eat. By the way… would ya put this sack over yore head when we get in the car?

    (joshin’ withya, Paul… you make some good points… and I enjoy readin’ your stuff.)

    Ned Reck

  • USNJIMRET

    You are, I believe, like many of the rest of us. Conservative and proud of it, but more then a little conflicted in what constitutes the correct thing to do right now. Notice I did NOT say the right thing to do, as that particular thing is more of a mystery then I know I can figure out. I DO know that raising the debt limit, without getting anything substantial in return in the way of reduced spending, is a HUGE fail. Likewise is an increase in taxes, by ANY calculation/formula, that again is done without some serious, and immediate, reductions in spending. Giving a politician ‘extra’ money, particularly the current bunch of Dem’s, is ALWAYS a mistake. It gets spent on something, and the something ALWAYS costs more then the amount they were ‘given’.
    Do I agree with you that Obama will do as much temper tantrum damage as possible if he doesn’t get his way?? Oh Hell yeah! In fact, I rather imagine that most of us can’t begin to guess at just how much damage! He is a spoiled child, having never learned to deal with major disappointment. It’s a kind of frightening thing to contemplate, just what will his foot stomping fit look like when, not if, he finally gets told “No”!
    Lastly, I didn’t see anything in your original post, or any of the answers you gave to follow on comments, that should cause anyone to choose not to continue being your friend, or feel alienated.
    As my Mom, and maybe yours as well, used to say, a friend like that was never a friend in the first place. You’re better off without their ‘friendship’.

    • Paul Seale

      I would only add the fear of and title comes from percieved pressure. I like being me. Black listing other wise excellent elected officials aint me.

      Some times stuff like this can get pretty rough and tumble as people demand promises and such.

      Lastly, I agree with much of what you posted. Thank you for posting the encouragement. It makes a difference.

      Thank you.

      Now lets work the phones and get cut, cap and balance passed in the senate.

  • restoretherepublic

    The truth is these people care for NOTHING except keeping their jobs. they will gladly burn the constitution if they thought it would get them reelected. They do cre not of phone calls, emails, or twitter feeds. Get up get your lazy a$$ ready to see your way of life and your country destroyed and sold off piece by piece to the IMF and China. You allowed this our parents allowed this it is time to take our country back for the snakes, liars and communists who would see it destroyed. Our Founding Fathers left us specific rights to assure us when this time came we could take our country back. Stand up people get your self armed and trained as the Founders thought we should be. If you do not stand for your rights now than soon you will have no rights to stand for. What happens to this country is your fault. YOU will have to explain this to your children. You will have to explain to them that you gave their rights and freedoms away because you were afraid to be the couragious and fearless people our country was founded and still protected by. If you think the birds and bees talk is akward this is gonna be downright shameful. Rise up take back your rights, join us in an honor to our Founding Fathers by fighting for what they died for.

    GOD save this republic for I no longer believe we can.

    minem60(at)yahoo

  • restoretherepublic

    I love this country and hate to see it fall I am NOT calling for an armed revolution as someone suggested. I am saying that people should prepare for the day our government ultimately destroys itself. It is well under way and we need to be prepared to resurrect this great Republic from the ashes of what we have become.
    When entitlements are withdrawn or go bankrupt do you not see the moochers rioting and burning our country down? How many people sucking off the government teet do you see everyday compared to those that are willing to fight for and die for this country?

    Just saying look at Greece and Europe how’s that any different from what’s going to happen here? Here it will be twice as bad.

    God save our Republic for I fear no one else will.