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No surrender to the Taliban. Afpak strategy for victory.

Peter Dow’s “no” to Taliban’s surrender terms. Afpak strategy for victory in war on terror. (YouTube)

CBS News: Divisions within Taliban make peace elusive

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made news Wednesday when he said the combat role for U.S. troops in Afghanistan could end next year instead of 2014. On Thursday, he took a step back — insisting U.S. forces will remain combat ready — even as they transition into their new role of training Afghan troops.

Another part of the U.S. strategy involves getting the Taliban to hold peace talks with the Afghan government. CBS News correspondent Clarissa Ward spoke with some top Taliban representatives where they live in Pakistan.

They call Sami ul Haq the “Father of the Taliban,” one of Pakistan’s most well-known and hard-line Islamists.

Ward visited ul Haq at his religious school near the Afghan border. Many Afghan Taliban leaders and fighters studied there, earning it the nickname the “University of Jihad.”

Ul Haq said that top Taliban figures are receptive to the idea of peace talks, but that three key conditions must be met first: The Americans must leave Afghanistan, he told Ward. Secondly, Taliban leaders should be released from Guantonamo. The third demand is there should be no outside interference in Afghanistan.

It’s unlikely that American negotiators will accept these terms, though a release of some prisoners from Guantanamo Bay has been discussed.

While some elements of the Taliban’s leadership may be supportive of peace talks, there are clear signs that divisions exist within the group. Many of the younger, more militant foot soldiers insisting that they are not ready to stop fighting.

At a small guesthouse on the outskirts of Islamabad, CBS News had the rare chance to sit down with a young Taliban commander from Helmand province. For security reasons, he asked that his face be not shown.

“If these talks in Doha are successful and Taliban leaders tell you and your fighters to put down your arms, will you do it?” asked Ward.

“No, it will not happen,” he said. “And those who are talking to the political wing of the Taliban should understand that real peace is only possible by talking to the ground fighters.”

“So the bottom line is you’re not willing to compromise, you’re not willing to collaborate? Is there any chance of peace?”

“If the Afghan government announced tomorrow that strict Islamic law would be reinstated, we would accept that,” he said, “but those in power now will never go along with that.”

For the moment, there is a huge gulf between what the Taliban and their backers want and what America would be willing to accept.

So the Deans of Jihad have dictated terms to the West, the terms they propose of the West’s surrender to the Jihadis in the war on terror.

So what should the response of the West be? Should we surrender to the Jihadis, or should we fight to win?

This guy Sami ul Haq should be a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp along with his University of Jihad colleagues, his controllers from the Pakistani ISI and his financial backers from Saudi Arabia.

The US and Western allies ought to name Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as “state sponsors of terrorism”.

There ought to be drone strikes on the University of Jihad. (Darul Uloom Haqqania, Akora Khattak, Pakistan)

We ought to seize control of Pakistani and Saudi TV satellites and use them to broadcast propaganda calling for the arrest of all involved in waging terrorist war against the West.

It just seems very poor tactics for our military to be risking life and limb in the minefields of Afghanistan yet at the strategic level our governments and businesses are still “trading with the enemy”.

As the Star Trek character Commander Scott might have said -

“It’s war, Captain but not as we know it.”

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COMMENTS

  • lizzie

    http://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/products/Crimson-Snow.aspx

    “In the mid-nineteenth century, the British and Russian Empires played the ?Great Game,? a rivalry for supremacy in Central Asia. To secure a ?buffer zone? in Afghanistan, between India and Russian territory, Britain launched the First Anglo-Afghan War in 1838. Initial success, including the imposition of a puppet regime supported by too few troops (a situation that has great resonance today), was followed by complete disaster in 1842, with 4,500 soldiers and 12,000 civilian camp followers killed by rebellious Afghans. Only one Briton is known to have escaped the massacre.
    This compelling story of imperial misadventure is told by Jules Stewart, a former Reuters journalist with considerable experience in the region and a specialist in North-West Frontier history, and has a foreword from General Sir David Richards, Chief of the General Staff and a former NATO commander in Afghanistan. It provides important parallels with our current commitments in this graveyard of ambitions, and illustrates how little has been learnt from the past.”

    or watch the dvd of “Charlie Wilson’s War”

    • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rice-for-president/ Peter_Dow

      I think I should have typed my “The Afghan mission is not “Anglo” and so it’s the 1st of its kind” reply here.

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rice-for-president/ Peter_Dow

    There are many nations supporting the NATO ISAF mission in Afghanistan and the British are not the biggest contributors, the US are. So well done USA. Now please get the strategy right and then tell our British generals to follow the US lead when you finally do. It is pointless us Britons speaking to our the UK military as they have a deaf ear to anyone not approved of by the Queen.

    But I do agree there are important lessons for Britons and others from military history.

    The most important lesson of history is don’t have a kingdom and monarch as your commander in chief because the incompetent His/Her Majesty’s governments which are the inevitable consequence of monarchy lose you wars, or make the winning of wars very costly.

    Perhaps General “Sir” David Richards could have done better dropping the “Sir” he got from the Queen and following the example of George Washington by fighting to free the people of Britain from the rule of the UK?

    British national independence from the crown and us governed as republics would make us stronger better and allies for the US.

    But royalist twits in charge of the military is not a British-only problem. Remember the Srebrenica massacre under the noses of the forces of the Queen of the Netherlands? The slaughter of 8000 or so people of the Muslim faith did much to motivate the jihadi movement in the early stages. I read that the terrorists who did 9/11 were funded by diverting money from a Saudi charity set up initially to help Muslims from Bosnia.

    Also with respect, I suspect that having a do-nothing incompetent monarch of the UK so highly thought of and respected in the US must really lower the bar in terms of what Americans expect from their own head of state.