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Don’t be fooled…these people HATE YOU!!!

Note:  This diary was written in haste and anger on an iPhone.  Forgive me if it seems a little spastic…

This is my first diary entry, so forgive me if this is going to be a little light on links..  I am writing this on my iPhone and I have to get it out while I’m fresh.   So I will modify it later when I actually sit down in front of my computer.

This is a message I would like everybody on the right to hear:

Let me start off by saying that I am gay right off the bat.  Why do I need to say this?  Well it is pretty simple.  It gives me some insight into the LGBT community.  Said community is pretty much a microcosm of the extremely far left.  It is this larger left wing community that Obama and most democrats are member of in some form or another.  While their aims and degrees of activism vary, they all have some things in common.  As a whole, they are a paranoid and hate-filled group.  Everything is in black and white and compromise is not permitted.  The language that they use is that of far left organizations, like the Black Panthers and the SLA.  Things like “George Bush wants to round up all gay people and put them into death camps”, “If you don’t believe in gay marriage, you are a bigot.”, “All religion is hate-filled superstition and should be outlawed”, “I think the government should force churches to marry gay people.” , are all normally held views, and are not examined or scrutinized in any way.  Things like this are exactly what the gay community believes, and I would dare say the far left at large.

However, not everybody believes that.  Like me, there are pockets of us who actually believe that the United States is exceptional, and not evil.  The problem is that anybody who is LGBT who comes out and supports anybody to the right of Karl Marx is considered a self hating, and is walled off from the community.  So to go against this left wing gospel means that no chance of love, no chance of friendship, a total outcasting (is that a real word?)  So many of us will remain quiet, and fearful of retribution.

This is what you are all up against with the left.  So let me say something to everybody, especially members of congress who is on this website:

The left wing of the United States hates you!  They hate you because of what you believe.  They hate you because of what you say.  They hate your family, your place of worship, and anybody who does not hate you as well.  I would dare say that their hatred of you is just as intense as members of Al Qaeda have for the United States.  In fact they probably hate you more than Al Qaeda.  Because while their aims are different, they both have the same enemy.  YOU!

This is something that you need to understand.  We are  in a cold civil war.  I would dare say that there is nothing that they would use against you to get their ends.  Let people know that you speak for EVERY American.  No matter what your hyphen or group you consider yourself a part of.

More importantly, speak for each other’s principles as well.  The left has a unified front when facing us.  Pro-abortion groups will fight for the principles of the gay community and vise-versa.  How much more powerful would we be if all supported each other policy wise?

Just remember that we all need to fight for what we believe.  Never compromise on your principles, and never surrender.  Remember that Marxism is not inevitable.

COMMENTS

  • westcoastpatriette

    if I may. Given your insight into the LGBT movement and given the fact that you say you are gay, how would you suggest conservatives respond to the hatred the left spews at us in the public square? While you sound level-headed and like you are on our side in this war, what is your position on same-sex marriage?

    And finally, what prompted you to write this diary?

    Just curious.

    • westcoastpatriette

      I wasn’t very clear in my question. I meant specifically with respect to the LGBT’s demands to legalize SSM and force acceptance of the lifestyle. How do you suggest we handle them and do you agree with them in part?

      • westcoastpatriette

        you sound a tad hypocritical in that you are afraid to let your LGBT peers know you do not agree with them, and yet you are challenging us to stand up to them, stick together and be brave. How can you be on both sides?

        • PowerToThePeople

          5 my friend!

        • zachv

          From either side. Gay Republicans/conservatives receive the ire of whichever camp the put themselves in. Truthfully, it’s worse on the LGBT side. Of the LGBT forums I frequent, I would say that I definitely get threatened to be banned at least once a week. The last three issues I almost got banned over were shooting down the idea that ObamaCare was good for anyone, defending the “corporate interests” at Kraft for posting the LGBT Oreo, and defending the Freedom of Religion for Mormons/Jews/Christians. And I couldn’t tell you the amount of times I’ve been called or seen gay Republicans labeled as ‘bigots’, ‘**gs’, ‘Uncle Tom’ (< – added bonus of being racist too!), and sufferers of the 'Battered Wife's syndrome' whilst in those heated debates.

          At the same time, you get just as much backlash in regards to SSM and gay rights from conservatives. 'Homosexualist' and 'the homosexual agenda' are very popular terms over on Hot Air. So is labeling gays as pedophiles and having yourself being equated to bestiality, polygamy and incest. I mean, you're allowed to be gay (except on page 8 of the <a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/texasgop_pre/assets/original/2012Platform_Final.pdf"Texas GOP's platform) but only if you sit down, shut up and stop destroying the fabric of society by wanting equal rights for your perversion. :(

          Basically what I am saying (and I have been banned on the LGBT forums for this statement) is that hatred is not exclusive to only one side or the other side of the line that gay conservatives straddle. You just get to be the lucky one that stands directly in the crossfire of both groups.

          • zachv

            *whichever camp they put themselves in
            *Texas GOP’s platform [PDF]

          • checkmate2012

            we’ll see tomorrow.

          • PowerToThePeople

            are gay bashing, gay hating assholes who compare you to pedos who like to hump animals.

            You sir are an idiot matched by few others.

          • californiasquish

            should brush up on your reading comprehension.

          • woodie

          • PowerToThePeople

            do you still miss Otis? Do you need a friend?

            Let me know, maybe I can find a minute or two to waste on you.

          • PowerToThePeople

            the bearer of bad news, but maybe you did not see this part of his comment there squishy.

            “At the same time, you get just as much backlash in regards to SSM and gay rights from conservatives. ‘Homosexualist’ and ‘the homosexual agenda’ are very popular terms over on Hot Air. So is labeling gays as pedophiles and having yourself being equated to bestiality,”

            And next time you decide to open your mouth and mumble, you should keep up with his constant whining and constant claims us evil repubs make fun of him and other republican gays.

            Now squishy, stick to the silly topics you bring up here so often and do not try to be smart. You will fail each and every time. And brush up a bit on your own comprehension skills before worrying about mine.

          • californiasquish

            …and it appears you still don’t understand. As you seem to be having trouble with it, I’ll explain.

            First of all, zachv doesn’t use the word ‘Republican’ in the relevant paragraph. So when you start your response off with “Yep, all republicans…”, you’ve already demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension. You’re equating ‘conservatives’ with ‘Republicans’ (which should be capitalized when referring to the political party, for future reference). They’re not the same thing. Not all conservatives are Republicans, just as not all liberals are Democrats.

            Secondly, he is speaking specifically about his own experience on forums. At no point does he say ‘all’ or ‘every single time’ or anything along those lines. His post says only ‘this happens to me,’ and he even took the time to back it up with a link to the official Texas GOP platform, which clearly demonstrates his overall point.

            Your response was to either not understand his post or sarcastically misrepresent what he said. You broke site rules twice: by being disrespectful AND using profanity. And then you topped it off with some name calling. That might be how you win arguments at home, but I have a lot of respect for this site, and if you’re going to play here, you should aim to do better.

            Now, to your reply directed at me:

            “And next time you decide to open your mouth and mumble, you should keep up with his constant whining and constant claims us evil repubs make fun of him and other republican gays.”

            First of all, I didn’t ‘mumble.’ You understood me completely.

            Secondly, you don’t need to say ‘constant’ twice. Your sentence should read “you should keep up with his constant whining and claims us evil repubs make fun of him and other republican gays.”

            Thanks and have a nice day.

          • PowerToThePeople

            of your system? Did you?

            Now that you climbed of your pulpit, you are still way off base and really starting to show an ignorant side you have not yet shown. If you want to play semantics and not take all of Zach’s posting history into consideration, that is your choice, but chose to embarrass yourself somewhere else.

            Last but not least, if you have a problem with my “name calling” by all means hit the contact button. But do not consider yourself to be in any position to lecture me as you are not. I promise I will be here long after you become yet another past visitor.

            Now, squishy, my suggestion for you is to use your time to go read most of Zach’s posts and his asshat comments towards anyone not in favor of SSM then come back and explain how I was wrong. Until then, do something constructive other than making yourself look foolish.

          • californiasquish

            As you keep giving me new ammo, I could correct your grammar all day.

            There is a difference between ‘of’ and ‘off’, as well as ‘choose’ and ‘chose’. Also, ‘last but not least’ is generally reserved for someone’s final point.

            You can accuse me of merely ‘playing semantics,’ but Ayn Rand would disagree. She wrote, “the ability to think precisely, and thus to write precisely, cannot be achieved without observing grammatical rules.”

            You sir, are not thinking precisely.

            But take heart, you can just call me ignorant and pretend like you won.

          • PowerToThePeople

            is correct my grammar, then by all means, have at it.

            And I won the moment you stuck your nose somewhere it did not belong and when you started acting as if you had the authority to tell me how to act.

            We will not get into your losing streak concerning Zach and his comments as we will just assume your blew your load prior to knowing his history. We will also forgive you for using the loser Ayn Rand in your argument as well. When she writes something other than laughable fiction that her cult members take as literal, I will worry about her opinion on my grammar as well.

          • californiasquish

            all I did was correct your grammar, then you’ve proven my original point entirely.

            Good day sir.

          • PowerToThePeople

            or maybe they were not that bright ever. Your last comment is so laughable, will simply let people enjoy the comedy without having to read me.

            The sun in CA must be as bad as they say.

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            ” … goes through every human heart.” – A. Solzhenitsyn

          • acat

            I was wondering when it was going into production…. it took a few minutes for the LGBT angle to sink in.

            Mew

          • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

            many here have treated you with respect and have had civil discussions with you on a variety of issues, including ssm. You also know that you (and others) have been guilty from time to time of throwing around a few accusations of your own to those of us who support traditional marriage and believe that homosexuality is sinful behavior. We can agree to disagree, but don’t pretend that’s a one-way street.

            Example

          • pff23ro

            I understand that there are people who do not like or accept people being gay. I also understand that this is more prevalent in right leaning groups more than left leaning. You can link to a number of different articles and web pages that have things that are anti-gay.

            The problem for me is that while I agree with the democrat party when it comes to gay marriage (although not as much as you may think), I agree with republicans and conservatives on just about everything else. It is far easier to convince people to change one thing in their beliefs than it is to change an entire outlook. So I vote republican, heck I voted for Santorum,.

          • wilgolden

            I, personally, don’t particularly care what one does with their own plumbing, as long as it’s consentual and doesn’t involve one or more parties that are not capable of saying “NO.” Other than that, my only request is that they keep it off the streets and don’t scare the horses.

            As to the Civil War, cold or otherwise, I have known for years that war to the knife is coming. I don’t advocate this, I don’t want this, We don’t need this, but I no longer see any way to avoid some version of “Makers vs. Takers”, and the opening moves are already in motion.

            Now, I’m just trying to limit the damage to family and a (very) few close friends.

            May the Lord Bless and Keep.

        • pff23ro

          is that Mary Matalin is married to James Carville. I can have both gay friends, and still stand up for my beliefs.

          And it’s my diary, so I can challenge whoever I wish :-)

          • gekster

            \nt/

      • ww2nd95

        We’re still one country. We may disagree on legislature and how the country should directed, but saying the left hates us, as much as Al-Qaeda is a stretch.. Now don’t get me wrong, I have very heated arguments with some of my friends who are voting for Obama, but in the end, I’m still friends with them, and they me. I personally can’t stand this divide in the country right now.

        I would venture to say that most people on this site have friends and family members that support Obama or are left leaning, and remain close to each other. That’s one thing that make this country great, is that something as divisive as the current political landscape can exist, while friends can remain friends even while vehemently disagreeing with each other over it. That can happen here, where as there are plenty of countries where that isn’t possible.

        So yes, I take offense to comparing anyone or anything to do with this country to Al-Qaeda.

        • gekster

          Don’t take the left for granted’
          They are just a dangerous,
          just using different methods.

          • ww2nd95

            And in no way do I agree with their ideology. I think it’s dangerous economically and to some degree culturally. But we cannot start looking at them as true enemies, in the way I’ve heard way to many people say. That’s dangerous to our country.That’s how civil wars get started. We’re no where near to that point.

            And I’m simply not going to agree that they’re just as dangerous as Al-Qaeda, no way. For the last 200 years we’ve had two different parties that haven’t seen eye to eye. Now this new group of Democrats are more the left then those in the past are more progressive, but to say they’re as dangerous as Al-Qaeda is lunacy. I have two cousins, both very dear to me, who have gone across the ocean to fight Al-Qaeda and on multiple tours, as well as friends, as I’m sure we all know someone who has, so I get pretty annoyed when people just throw around Terrorist and Al-Qaeda to fit their own point of view versus someone or some group they disagree with.

            Al-Qaeda hates the fiber of our existence, the Left interprets how the country should be in a different way then us. So in my mind, there is no comparison of the two.

          • gekster

            And be smart enough to use reply to this.

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            “As for the other But we cannot start looking at them as true enemies, ”

            You miss the point.

            I don’t see most leftists as ‘the enemy’. Most of us see them as WRONG, not evil. It’s not a conservative thing to see some other ideology as ‘evil’.

            The point is that THAT SEE US THAT WAY. It IS a New left thing to make ‘the personal is political’ and to see everything in ideological terms, including character relationships, and to see ideological enemies as real enemies. You need to read some David Horowitz, a former leftist, to ‘get it’ as to how the leftists tick and why they do what they do.

            THEY HATE US.

            If you dont get the difference you dont get this diary AT ALL. If you havent noticed that or admit it as a fact, just pretend to be a social conservative on a far left forum and try to survive without getting covered in slime. You will get personal hate – they will ‘get in your face’ just as Barack Obama, former community activist told his supporter to do. I say pretend because I cant believe a real social conservative hasnt noticed that yet.

            … or AT LEAST the unhinged death threats:

            http://wisconsincitizens.blogspot.com/2012/06/leftist-goes-nuts-and-threatens-to-kill.html

            http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d48_1296751614

            http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=282199914948

            http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/04/02/oh-good-left-wing-kindergarten-teacher-threatens-to-kill-wisconsin-republicans/

            http://twitchy.com/2012/06/06/kill-scott-walker-angry-libs-flood-twitter-with-death-threats-after-wisconsin-recall-defeat/

            http://weaselzippers.us/2011/03/15/leftist-threatens-to-kill-wisconsin-tea-party-leader/

          • demsaresatanic

            With all due respect, I believe that you are hopelessly naive.

        • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

          It’s a stretch indeed. I dont think the left has nearly as much emotional hatred for any other group as they do the right-wing fundamentalist Christian Teabagger fascist (insert slander here) conservative Republicans.

          The left such as the Michael Moore types showed in 2004 how willing they were to not hate AQ terrorists at all if it hurt the Republicans. Moore called extremists killing marines in Fallujah ‘freedom fighters’. He’d never ever siad anything that endearing about Republicans.

          Since personal demonization has been stock-in-trade technique of the New Left and Alinskyite activists, and Jornolistas use it on a daily basis, the fact remains that people cant remain friends in that environment across a divide based on personal character attacks.

          We see this almost daily. case du jour, Bard Pitt’s Mom, who apparently is anathema because she shares the views of the majority of Americans on abortion and marriage. phew!

          SO Yeah … “The new Republican Taliban” … and calling the GOP Taliban which leftists have done repeatedly is kind of insulting and offensive:
          http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/21/1066866/-Rick-Santorum-the-New-Republican-Taliban-and-the-War-on-Women

          That’s Daily Kos. Perhaps if you could find an example of Daily Kos being as outraged, venomous and hateful towards the REAL Taliban as they are towards prolife profamily Rick Santorum and other social conservatives … THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A POINT.

          When our own President calls people “Teabagger”, using a double entendre slur to describe millions of Americans, it’s sets a bad tone – it’s trickle down political fearmongering.

        • funwithknives

          real friendship with those they see as Nazis, Anti-Woman, “…your enemies” {That’s Barry talkin’, not me}, Facists, Neandrethals, Christian Extremists,Social Darwinists, and so on? Leave a spy/recorder in the room after you leave, get filled in, and you’ll find out what ‘reality’ is, sir…..

          They want to de-personalize, propagandize, and make their opposition less-than-human, as defined by THEIR Shallow Metrics.
          It’s a War to them and they use WarLike Precepts ,as long as real fighting with real injuries do not ‘scuff them up’.
          {Those Boo-Boos Hurt…}
          They do it every bleeding day and in countless infantile fashions, and have no real interest in you , or your beliefs.
          Read “The Little Blue Book” or some Alinsky/Rules for Radicals , my fine accepting new-found friend.
          Islam lies to unbelievers and so do Progressives. It’s what they do, pure and simple.
          You’re just a speed bump and easy to drive over. One slight ‘bump’ and they’re on their way.

        • demsaresatanic

          with the leftist agenda which underlies that so-called party. It is an America-hating Christian-hating nest of termites.

    • pff23ro

      I am for being able to have the same legal rights. But I believe that can be done with a civil union, or some other such institution.

      Marriage to me has always been one man & one woman. I never understood the whole being discriminated against with marriage, because I could go and marry a woman pretty much anytime I would like. Nobody would try to stop me.

      I posted this earlier back a few months in a comment. The gay community needs its own institution for coupling. The reason I believe this is that a male-male couple is very different from a male-female. There are different cultural and sexual mores that need to be addressed, and I don’t believe that marriage is the right way to do it.

      • westcoastpatriette

        :)

        I appreciate your openness and am more receptive to “tolerating” you if you are not going to be a one trick pony here to constantly attack those of us who are opposed to ssm. It gets really tiresome.

      • demsaresatanic

        willing to be tolerant of homosexuals but that ends with the
        in your face demand for marriage. Homosexuals are setting themselves up for a big fall with that one in my opinion.

  • checkmate2012

    at NAACP and talked about helping all Americans. Yet O’s campaign is based on divide and conquer. Does the LGBT community like that O is pandering by signing short-term executive orders just to get the votes and saying he supports gay-marriage but has no concrete legislation to make it happen?

    I would be insulted and see thru the obvoius pandering for political favor. Does the hatred you speak of blind the community towards economic policies that help everyone, not just a special interest group?

    Nice to hear the truth from a small but vocal minority.

    • wennejunk

      Communities share the following in concept:

      Nothing, absolutely nothing, is worth their compromising on the freedom to do whatever they want and with whom in order to not have consequences for their actions.

      Period.

      Anything and everything can and will be sacrificed on their alters to achieve that end.

    • pff23ro

      YES

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    Found out he was a gay activist but also a big Obama guy. I tried to engage him on the economic side of his beliefs saying that since I leaned libertarian I was not going to oppose him in the social areas.

    But even that was too much for him. He became unhinged and insulted me, then unfriended me. Obviously the brainwashing had gone too far.

  • Viet71

    Just speaking for myself.

    Republicans would do well to cultivate G and L voters. Voters who share basic Republican values.

    Leftists simply wish to exploit gays and lesbians.

    • pff23ro

      for your comment and acceptance. People can be anyway they like to me. I didn’t come here not to make waves :-)

      • 6eorge Jetson

        This is what I find myself thinking about gays, and it has nothing to do with being gay.

        I’d love to be able to say “You’re cool!” to two (or more!) of the five. And I would support gay marriage if it came via the state-level legislative branch AND wasn’t a 1,000 page bill containing lots of unrelated Leftist landmines.

        Please continue posting here.

  • demsaresatanic

    Great post.

    • mikeymike143

      please continue to post here. :)

      and by the way, i am a social conservative and a right wing tea partier.

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