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Eric Cantor put on a demonstration on Fox News Sunday of what a “prevent defense” looks like in politics, in part by throwing Republican Congressional candidate Rich Iott under the bus. Iott’s crime, of course, is “being photographed in a Nazi uniform.” He hasn’t been accused of being a Nazi orof harboring Nazi sympathies (at least not directly). Iott is actually part of a historical reenactment group and has also “been photographed” in a Civil War Union Army uniform and a World War I doughboy uniform.  Of course to have historical reenactments, you’re going to people on both sides of a conflict and that includes Nazis.  As one commenter noted, what are the people playing the Nazis supposed to wear, leather pants and feather boas?

When this story first broke, right thinking individuals pointed out actors play Nazis in movies without it being held against them. To this end, one commenter on Hannity’s website asked if anyone knew of a list of actors who played Nazis in movies. And just such a list was started on Wikipedia. Only now its been deleted.  But it was also copied to ebay before it was deleted. It is reproduced here (in case that posting gets deleted too):

“This is a partial list of actors or celebrities who have played Nazis, fictional or non-fictional, in films.

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

  • Bruno Ganz (“Der Untergang”)
  • Andy Gatjen (“In Enemy Hands”)
  • Herbert Grönemeyer (“Das Boot”)

H

  • Rutger Hauer (“Inside the Third Reich”, “Fatherland”)
  • Ed Harris (“Enemy at the Gates”)
  • André Hennicke (“Der Untergang”)
  • Dominique Horwitz (“Stalingrad”)

I

J

K

  • Arnd Klawitter (“U-571″)
  • Frank-Michael Köbe (“The Pianist”)
  • Thomas Kretschmann (“U-571″, “The Pianist”, “Der Untergang”, “Stalingrad”, “In Enemy Hands”, “King Kong”)

L

  • Robert Lahoda (“U-571″)
  • Matt Lindquist (“In Enemy Hands”)

M

N

  • Liam Neeson (“Schindler’s List”, “Shining Through”)
  • Ulrich Noethen (“Der Untergang”)

O

P

  • Gregory Peck (“The Boys from Brazil”)
  • Donald Pleasence (“The Eagle Has Landed”, “The Night of the Generals”)
  • Jürgen Prochnow (“Das Boot”, “The Keep”, “The English Patient”)
  • Alex Prusmack (“In Enemy Hands”)

Q

R

  • Peter Rappenglück(“The Pianist”)
  • Uwe Rathsam (“The Pianist”)
  • Erich Redman (“U-571″)
  • Harry Riebauer (“The Great Escape”)
  • Sascha Rosemann (“In Enemy Hands”)

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Of course the list is missing Christopher Plummer for his portrayal of the commandant of Rome in The Scarlet and the Black (The Sound of Music notwithstanding) and I’m sure that Redstate readers can add many others. But don’t count on Wikipedia or any other non-conservative site to maintain such a  list. Please feel free to make additions in the comments.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • Doc Holliday
      • itrytobenice

        No, actually, too many 5′s to post. That is gonna leave a mark.

      • eburke
  • SIConservative

    Entirely independent of Iott’s roll in the reenactment and his own views, we have to win next month. We have a heavy tide in our favor and we can’t risk having that turn over something like this. At best, Iott was remarkably stupid for allowing his picture to be taken in a Nazi uniform. Allowing this to become a PR disaster could easily have cost us 20-25 House seats, quite possibly enough to keep the Democrats in power. I don’t know whether Iott has Nazi sympathies, and for current purposes, I don’t care. It’s not worth it to try to bring nuance to an election in which the fundamentals are so strongly in our favor. The upside of standing by Iott is that it would give him a better chance of winning the seat. The potential downside is that the Democrats could win a major PR battle in the final month before the election so decisively that they manage to minimize their losses, retain control of both houses of Congress, and potentially have the upper hand for redistricting. Cantor handled the situation well.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • SIConservative
        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • SIConservative

            George Gipp is a considerably more sympathetic character than Heinrich Himmler.

            You’re still ignoring my larger point. I’m not arguing that he’s a Nazi. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. For the sake of argument, let’s say he’s not.

            Here are two possible courses of action and six possible outcomes for each:
            The party throws him under the bus and:
            1. Iott wins. No other races are impacted.
            2. Iott wins. One to five other races are lost as a result of fallout from the story.
            3. Iott wins. More than five other races are lost as a result of fallout from the story.
            4. Iott loses. No other races are impacted.
            5. Iott loses. One to five other races are lost as a result of fallout from the story.
            6. Iott loses. More than five races are lost as a result of fallout from the story.

            The national party defends Iott and:
            7. Iott wins. No other races are impacted.
            8. Iott wins. One to five other races are lost as a result of losing a media battle related to his defense.
            9. Iott wins. More than five other races are lost as a result of losing a media battle related to his defense.
            10. Iott loses. No other races are impacted.
            11. Iott loses. One to five other races are lost as a result of losing a media battle related to his defense.
            12. Iott loses. More than five races are lost as a result of losing a media battle related to his defense.

            I submit that the following represent the order of likelihood in each scenario: 5, 4, 2, 1, 3, 6 in the case of throwing him under the bus; 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7 in the case of defending him. Put aside for a moment your own views on Iott and ask yourself whether and where you disagree with my assessment. Whether Iott is worthy of defense and whether he can effectively be defended in such a way that we do not lose a major PR battle here are two entirely separate questions. The question that needs to be asked is “What course of action is likely to bring about the best result in a few weeks?” The answer to that, like it or not, is that he be thrown under the bus.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      This is madness to denounce an actor in a re-enactment when what we ought to be denouncing are the real life roles liberal democrats play that do NAZI like socialist damage.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      the liberals love how we jump thru hoops

      • fpete13527
        • Illinicon

          in the House leadership come January. That fact that he runs from a conservative candidate at the first sense of trouble, only means he is likely to run away from pushing conservative legiaslation after the demogogic rant from the democrats. At best, he is wimp and at worst he is just another statist in Washington. The top priority come Nov. 3 should be “primary” Cantor in caucus for Majority Leader.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • itrytobenice

            Not the pitcher.

            Periodically we get an unscripted moment that shows us whether or not our candidate or leader has a backbone, or gonads, or whatever it takes to stand up for us. We find out if they can think on their feet. Whether or not their instinct is to defend us or to chuck us under the bus.

            Now we know with Cantor. He doesn’t have balls or he would have used to opportunity to attack any number of Ds with real, actual prejudices or flaws (e.g. Jerry Brown thinks Meg Whitman is a whore).

            He doesn’t think on his feet or he would have pointed out that in any play, someone has to play the bad guy and since our candidate is a history buff, he is less likely to have to re-learn the lessons of history than someone like Joe Biden who thinks that FDR went on TV to reassure people in the Great Depression.

            And since he failed in this respect, he promptly sends a good and viable Republican candidate under the bus.

            Time for us to hand Cantor his pink slip.

          • Scope

            no one ever remains in a primary against him. They announce, and within a few weeks back out of the race. He has not “yet” had any viable Democrat challenger. He is almost guaranteed the win every election cycle. He doesn’t even campaign in the upper part of his district where I live.

            You are correct in pointing out that he can’t think on his feet. He also can’t articulate the first convincing argument for the Republicans. Wasserman-Schultz went on the attack right from the get go. She said so many lies, she handed him many gifts to refute, yet, all he did was whine like a little girl. Wasserman-Schultz slammed him, but, she is a very typical Liberal loud mouth.

            I read that the Republican, Harrington I think is her name, is within stricking distance to Wasserman-Schultz in Fla. Anyone know anything about that race?

          • itrytobenice

            He’s pretty conservative and I’m not sorry he’s in Congress. I just don’t think he should be in leadership. For that spot, we need people with quicker wits.

            For voting, I’m willing to agree that given time, he probably generally votes right. He’s just not a good fighter or defender.

    • speciallist

      Breakup the Gamecocks!!!

      the sports gods are smiling on U of S. Carolina

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • Scope

    Cantor is not the good conservative guy so many believe him to be. Now he told you so himself with his FOX interview yesterday. Yes, he threw a conservative candidate under the bus, and, one that had a good chance of taking out a Liberal in November. If you didn’t see the entire interview, here is the transcript-

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/transcript/midterm-elections-preview-039fox-news-sunday039?page=1

    Please note how many times Cantor talks about “working together” and “coming together” to work out solutions. It is sprinkled throughout the entire interview. No conservative should even try to work with the Progressives. It seems that Cantor has missed the message being sent by 54% of the electorate now calling themselves conservatives. Moderates are at their lowest point in years, yet Cantor wants to work with the Progressives to enact legislation. What more is he willing to give up, and give in to the Progressives, knowing they don’t compromise?

    I have consistently made the point that Cantor is not a conservative who believes in smaller government, less spending, and getting the federal government out of every aspect of our lives. Cantor doesn’t have a problem with any of those things, as long as it is done by the Republicans.

    Again, Cantor voted for Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, and TARP during the Bush years, and Obama’s Cash for Clunkers. He says that Republicans lost their way, but have learned from it. Maybe some R’s have, but, Cantor isn’t one of them. I don’t trust that Cantor will push for a full repeal of Ocare, he has already been wishy washy on the issue. Even Laura Ingraham knew that, and in an interview slammed him for it.

    As was perfectly stated above, Cantor is a part of the reason for the Tea Parties. I’ve heard rumors that Cantor may challenge Boehner for the Speaker’s position, if the R’s win the majority. God save us all if he ever succeeded.

    • Doc Holliday

      mea culpa

      • Scope

        by the disease of Washingtonitis, like so many others. We need the seat to stay Republican, but, Good Lord don’t let Cantor anywhere near any power positions. That is until the district can come up with a better replacement. His district includes Richmond, the state’s Capital. There has got to be someone who can beat him in a primary.

        • Doc Holliday
        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • rbdwiggins
  • Martin Knight

    Rich Iott patiently reading this list out at a Press Conference with pictures of each of these actors flashing in the background would.

    Point being made – he is a re-enactor – he’s playing a role. Then he can whale on Kaptur and her media supporters.

    Honestly, this is simple. Just sit down, formulate an offensive plan and execute – why can’t Republicans do this?

  • discerningconservative

    I don’t see where this comparison of actors playing Nazi roles and a WWII re-enactor running for office makes sense. That would be akin to saying that we can’t say anything about Patrick Kennedy’s drug and alcohol problems because we have a list of actors/actresses that have similar problems. The bottom line is that there is a big difference with regards to the standards that we should hold elected officials to compared to Hollywood stars. That being said, I don’t see Lott’s photos in Nazi garb being a major issue when you take into account that he has participated in several war re-enactments. There are much better arguments to be made than this/that actor made this/that movie playing a Nazi.

    This diary is nonsense, and if Lott came out in public with this defense it would be even worse.

  • phlogiston

    I had to basic points in posting this. First, that Cantor showed all the backbone of a chocolate eclair by disavowing Iott instead of saying “he was a participating in a historical re-enactment; nonstory.” The second is that someone at wiki thought it was a good enough argument to delete the entry containing the listing. That’s indicative of the games the left will play with facts to advance their arguments.

    Your comparison to Patrick Kennedy doesn’t hold up. Patrick Kennedy wasn’t playing someone with drug or alcohol problems, he had them.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • JSobieski

    which is to pretend to be something that you are not. I have done all sorts of community theater, and I would not vote for any of the character’s I have played before (ok, maybe Doc Gibbs from Our Town or Dorothy’s uncle from Wizard of Oz) but it would be insane to associate ANY those characters or their attributes with me.

    How is participating in a reenactment different than acting on stage or in a film?

  • fpete13527