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Looking Forward to DC Gridlock

Washington, D.C. Southwest-Southeast Freeway

I am looking forward to gridlock in Washington like we have not witnessed for twelve years. It would even be better if we had won a majority in the US Senate as well. Then it would be more comparable to the US Congress from January 3, 1995 to January 3, 2001. It is during this period of time in US History when the US Federal government had a budget surplus. It is the US Congress that controls the budget.

Since people have such a short memory span to remember things that have not been employed much for twelve years, I searched the internet for information about the veto and the amendment processes.

When a bill is passed by both the House and Senate, it is sent to the president for his signature. All bills and joint resolutions, except those proposing amendments to the Constitution, must be signed by the president before they become law. Amendments to the Constitution, which require a two-thirds vote of approval in each chamber, are sent directly to the states for ratification. However an amendment is proposed, it does not become part of the Constitution unless it is ratified by three-quarters of the states. When presented with legislation passed by both houses of Congress, the president is constitutionally required to act on it in one of four ways: sign it into law within the 10-day period prescribed in the Constitution, issue a regular veto, let the bill become law without his signature or issue a “pocket” veto.

Regular veto
When Congress is in session, the president may, within the 10-day period, exercise a regular veto by sending the unsigned bill back to the chamber of Congress from which it originated along with a veto message stating his reasons for rejecting it. Currently, the president must veto the bill in its entirety. He may not veto individual provisions of the bill while approving others.

Bill becomes law without president’s signature
When Congress is not adjourned, and the president fails to either sign or veto a bill sent to him by the end of the 10-day period, it becomes law without his signature.

The pocket veto
When Congress is adjourned, the president can reject a bill by simply refusing to sign it. This action is known as a “pocket veto,” coming from the analogy of the president simply putting the bill in his pocket and forgetting about it. Unlike a regular veto, Congress has neither the opportunity or constitutional authority to override a pocket veto.

When the President returns a bill to the chamber of Congress from which it came, along with his objections in the form of a veto message, that chamber is constitutionally required to “reconsider” the bill. The Constitution is silent, however, on the meaning of “reconsideration.” According to the Congressional Research Service, procedure and tradition govern the treatment of vetoed bills. “On receipt of the vetoed bill, the President’s veto message is read into the journal of the receiving house. After entering the message into the journal, the House of Representatives or the Senate complies with the constitutional requirement to ‘reconsider’ by laying the measure on the table (essentially stopping further action on it), referring the bill to committee, postponing consideration to a certain day, or immediately voting on reconsideration (vote on override).”

Overriding a veto
Action by both the House and the Senate is required to override a presidential veto. A two-thirds majority vote of the Members present is required to override a presidential veto. If one house fails to override a veto, the other house does not attempt to override, even if the votes are present to succeed. The House and Senate may attempt to override a veto anytime during the Congress in which the veto is issued. Should both houses of Congress successfully vote to override a presidential veto, the bill becomes law. According the the Congressional Research service, from 1789 through 2004, only 106 of 1,484 regular presidential vetoes were overridden by Congress.

There have been actions taken ever since the foundation of this nation to try and improve efficiency and eliminate the gridlock in our Federal Government, and unfortunately they have occasionally succeeded in recent history. They try to use earmarks to logroll bills thru the US Congress. They create automatic formulas to avoid votes on congrssional pay hikes, tax hikes, and social security and medicare payments. I recently had a conversation with a certain regular RedState rooster about how I dislike the automatic triggeer language added to bills like what they did in 2001 with the tax cut bill. His reply

Nothing in the Constitution stops any Congress from doing anything to change current laws at any time, nor does it compel them to act or not act in any way. Experience has taught conservatives that we get better results when we sunset spending bills as that would not allow a future Congress to continue bad spending unless they act. In other words, they remove the luxury from a future congress to allow bad spending thru inaction.

The logic is impeccable, and I can’t disagree. The major problem is that the left will never agree in Congress to only putting an expiration date on a spending bill. They will insist on an expiration date on any bill allowing citizens to keep more of their own money. This is why I prefer a bill is written strictly on its merits with no added language at all.

Another major change from how the Founders intended the architecture of the US Government is the 17th amendment. There is a blogger, David Gans, who opines how tea partiers who favor repealing the 17th are just ignorant of the history. Todd Zywicki does an excellent job of destroying Gans here. Gans says the election of US Senators by state legislatures was a complete disaster of fomenting corruption and adding gridlock to the state legislatures. The actual history reports a different account. There were allegations of corruption in less than one-half of one percent of Senate elections even during the period where corruption was thought to be most widespread. Historian C.H. Hoebeke found 382 electoral challenges in the House from 1789-1907 and during that same period there were 15 in the Senate.

Moreover, the case for believing that direct election would eliminate corruption is quite dubious. First, considering that Congressmen from time to time end up with stacks of hundred dollar bills in their office refrigerators I doubt that most people would agree with the proposition that democratic elections inoculate politics from bribery and corruption. Historians have observed that the great political winners (and major supporters) from the enactment of the Seventeenth Amendment were corrupt urban machines, which could bribe, intimidate, and deliver large numbers of voters to the polls to do their bidding.

Election of senators by state legislatures was a cornerstone of two of the most important “auxiliary precautions”: federalism and the separation of powers. Absent some direct grant of federal influence to state governments, the latter would be in peril of being “swallowed up,” to use George Mason’s phrase. Even arch-centralizer Hamilton recognized that this institutional protection was necessary to safeguard state autonomy. In addition, the Senate was seen as a means of linking the state governments together with the federal one. Senators’ constituents would be state legislators rather than the people, and through their senators the states could influence federal legislation or even propose constitutional amendments under Article V of the Constitution.

Under the original arrangement, senators had strong incentives to protect federalism. They recognized that their reelection depended on pleasing state legislators who preferred that power be kept close to home. Whereas House members were considered representatives of the people, senators were considered ambassadors of their state governments to the federal government and, like national ambassadors to foreign countries, were subject to instruction by the parties they represented (although not to recall if they refused to follow instructions). And they tended to act accordingly, ceding to the national government only the power necessary to perform its enumerated functions, such as fighting wars and building interstate infrastructure. Moreover, when the federal government expanded to address a crisis (such as war), it quickly retreated to its intended modest level after the crisis had passed.

Repealing the Seventeenth Amendment would not be a panacea for what ails the American political and constitutional system. As during the era before the Seventeenth Amendment, many states would probably adopt either de facto direct election of senators, in which legislatures essentially agree to ratify the popular vote, or attenuated forms of it, such as primaries or conventions to select party nominees from whom the legislatures choose. And much work would remain to be done to restore the public’s understanding of the difference between a direct democracy and a democratic constitutional republic. But repeal would be a step in the direction of restraining an imperialistic central government and frustrating special-interest influence. Whether or not it is good politics, it remains sound constitutional design. And it would help promote the gridlock that I look forward to.

Cross-posted at The Minority Report

COMMENTS

  • http://www.flaliberty.org scorpio0679

    This is a great diary and I agree completely that the electoral system for U.S. Senators prior to the Seventeenth Amendment was preferable. How, pray tell, will you ever convince the U.S. Senate to recommend a constitutional amendment basically abolishing the way that every one of its members is elected?

    It simply won’t happen. At least, not until other changes are implemented first.

    Term limits, a balanced budget amendment, followed by tax reform (FairTax) could all be proposed and enacted simultaneously as part of the same constitutional amendment. After that, we may be in a position to move a Seventeenth Amendment repeal through.

    • pilgrim

      I will admit that it is highly unlikely for a constitutional amendment to be repealed, but it did happen once. It took a little over 10 years to get it done but the 18th amendment was repealed with the 21st amendment.

      The example of California’s term limits on their legislature makes me skeptical of term limits on the US Congress being a panacea for what ails the US Congress. I also am not a fan of the huge growth in the executive branch of bureaucrats to manage the probate of money checks going out to US residents every month in the fair tax. The 16th amendment would gave to be repealed for the fair tax to replace the Fed. income tax.

      Restoring the public’s understanding of the difference between a direct democracy and a democratic constitutional republic is the most important thing that needs doing.

      • http://www.flaliberty.org scorpio0679

        Sorry this might be slightly off-topic, I know your main discussion was about the 17th Amendment. But the FairTax proposal itself calls for repeal of the 16th to be a condition of enacting the national sales tax.

        Also, your concern about administration of the prebate is warranted but shouldn’t be an impediment to supporting the FT. The whole SSN system needs to be modernized with 21st century security measures . . . there are already good proposals being batted around Congress. If you can ensure only legal residents get a valid SSN with photo I.D., and that the system is secured, then you are in the clear.

        Back on topic. I guess my main point was, yes, repealing the 17th Amendment is a good thing to be “for” but how to get there is the question? Prohibition isn’t exactly a real good parallel to draw as an example for repeal.

        The 17th Amendment issue will either be dealt with, if at all, in a broader package of constitutional amendments — such as balanced budget + FairTax + term limits — or as part of a constitutional convention called to completely rewrite the Constitution (the “other way” to change the Constitution). The latter, obviously, is somewhat unlikely.

        • pilgrim

          I am just glad that the amendment process has been used to repeal the 18th instead of repeal the 2nd. The idea of a constitutional convention appeals to me a lot less than the fair tax idea with the opportunity it could provide to really screw us..

          I think we need to continue to correct the idiots on the left when they try to rewrite history, and continue getting people to understand how the constitutional republic is the most sound design to have for a federal government.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        And you know how hard it is for me to use California surfer language superlatives…but I’m tried for the all weekend religious revival called Southern college football. Many were saved as USC took care of business in Lindsey’s district near John C. Calhoun’s home and now head to the Dixie Georgia Dome mecca for a pilgrimage in the city of the Bobbys, i.e. Jones, Dodd and Cox and to join the elite that have won the SEC.

        But oh yeah, great column and more later re gridlock during this deep jobs depression

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Besides, any candidate that even mentions he’d consider it, let alone favor it will have it used against him in the election. It happened here.

    • pilgrim

      Colorado was definitely a special case, and anything that could go wrong for the CO GOP did. Having admitted that I still think that when lefty idiots like David Gans attack conservatives for being ignorant domestic extremists, then they need to be called out on it. Even if you lose it is more important to set the record straight than to just be silent and do nothing.

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

        I’m personally not in favor of repealing the amendment. I think it worked well early on, but things were different then. I prefer the people themselves be responsible for electing their representatives directly. That way, they can take the credit or the blame, and they have no one else to blame if they elect someone that doesn’t have their interests at heart.

        The only benefit I can see is perhaps more people would care about state Senate elections, but I’m not sure that would be the casxe.

        Oh, and one last thing. Not everything went wrong. We picked up two House seats, the SOS and Treasurer, and the state House. We actually had some important successes, but most people were only following the Gov. & Senate races.

        • pilgrim

          Before the Seventeenth Amendment, the now-widespread Washington practice of commandeering the states for federal ends ? through such actions as ?unfunded mandates,? laws requiring states to implement voter-registration policies that enable fraud (such as the ?Motor Voter? law signed by Bill Clinton), and the provisions of Obamacare that override state policy decisions ? would have been unthinkable. Instead, senators today act all but identically to House members, treating federalism as a matter of political expediency rather than constitutional principle.

          I prefer the then to what they are doing now.

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            The problem isn’t how they’re elected, it’s what they do after they get there. State politics has gone pretty much how federal politics has. It’s all about who can cash in best.

          • pilgrim

            I wrote a diary 3 weeks ago about how states like CA and RI behave more like a federal territory than a proud autonomous sovereign state.

            http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2010/11/06/our-union-it-must-be-preserved/

            In this diary I concede that how they are elected would not change in every state. All that the repeal can do is be a benefit for a state that is proud of its own state sovereignty and would prefer power kept close to home. There is no help for the modern day ‘slave states’ with repealing the 17th.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      Paul Gosar won anyway. The DCCC was running an ad several times a night on this theme.

  • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics

    “we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win.”
    JFK

    Repealing the 17th won’t be easy. It may not take precisely the shape of repeal. It can be done.
    The argument it now germane. It will require eductaion but the data is on our side if we use it.
    NightTwister above thinks it makes no difference how they are electe, yet a passing glance at the size of government shows 1913 as a pivot point.
    17th is, of course, not the only problem. not the only disaster of 1913. We also have the 16th and the Federal Reserve Act.

    In one year we gave the federal government:
    1. unlimited power to tax. 16th Amendment.
    2. unlimited source of funds, after taxation is maximized. Federal Reserve Act.
    3. Removed all accountability from the system. 17th Amendment.

    It is a three-legged stool and all three legs need to be kicked out from under Uncle Sam to restore the federal government to it’s proper role.

    Start in Jan @ THEAmericanDriveIn.com
    Come Watch Hell Freeze Over.

    • runner12

      does not mean that you abandon it. Repealing the 17th would be difficult, but not impossible. It would be a huge step in restoring this country to the Republic it was meant to be.

  • pilgrim

    Sen. Coburn had an amendment to the food safety bill that put a 3 year moratorium on earmarks. Reid allowed the amendment to be brought up on condition that a 2/3 majority would be needed for passage. Harry should not have even worried. There were only 39 Yes votes for this amendment. Only 11 of 33 Senators up for reelection in 2012 voted Yes. Earmarks to logroll bills thru the Senate will continue.

    Senators voting Yes up in 2012
    for Coburn earmark moratorium amendment

    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Wicker (R-MS)
    Snowe (R-ME)
    Brown (R-MA
    Nelson (D-FL)
    McCaskill (D-MO)

    Senators voting No up in 2012
    for Coburn earmark moratorium amendment

    Akaka (D-HI)
    Bingaman (D-NM)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Cardin (D-MD)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Conrad (D-ND)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Klobuchar (D-MN)
    Kohl (D-WI)
    Lieberman (ID-CT)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    Manchin (D-WV)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Stabenow (D-MI)
    Tester (D-MT)
    Webb (D-VA)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)

    • JadedByPolitics

      earmarks, ANY Republicans attaching them to legislation over the next two years will be the one’s held to account. They ran on changing DC and they are the one’s who either want a bigger majority or a primary opponent, their choice!