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Who Obama Supporters Are

By: plumely (Diary)  |  November 29th, 2012 at 01:09 PM  | 

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Correct me if I am wrong. But I think it was Lord Maynard Keynes who said “In the long run we’ll all be dead.” He based his economic philosophy on that saying.

This is what your average Obama supporter believes. In other words, a lot of them believe that they could just kick off tomorrow.

As a result, why not get what you can get now and live it up while you still can ? Who cares about the future, because there is none. The various factions among the Obama supporters believe a version of this meme.

For instance, the Hispanics(and I’m not talking about the ones in the Republican Party who believe in hard work) believe that they have received a raw deal and are going to get one no matter what they do. The people in their own country work hard to convince them of the notion that the US is out to screw them. They in turn believe it is ok to break our laws and do what ever they need to do for their own interests. US be damned! So along comes Obama who rationalizes their behavior and promises them free stuff.

The gay community regardless of their economic situation, thinks they are being discriminated against .   Despite the fact that their lifestyle has been all but mainstreamed , they still think the “breeders” are out to get them . They continue to do what they can to corrupt the culture.  So along comes Obama and promises them their lifestyle without the consequences .

The African-American community is being told that Whitey won’t give them a fair shake regardless of how hard they work.   The Republican message of working hard and achieving their dreams  means playing into Caucasian hands and robbing them of their cultural heritage.  Who wants to do that?  Let’s get as  much gravy as we can before it runs out.

So, along comes Obama and offers them free stuff.

With this in mind,  I ask this question : Are these the votes we want ? To  answer my own question , I say no .  And the reason is because I don’t like what the Republican party has to become to obtain these votes .  Instead of going after the people that hate us ,we should be try to reach those Republicans who stay home on election night because they don’t think the Republican candidate represents their conservative values .

Now with this said, I still believe we have a responsibility to educate those who have no understanding of the Judeo-Christian principles this country was founded on . We can do that by speaking in very simple terms . I would start by stating the following .

  •  Anything that is freely given to you can be easily taken away.
  •  This great country wasn’t acquired for free.   It was fought for and we need to continue to fight for it and maintain its beloved principles of liberty and prosperity for all .
  •  This won’t be achieved  by stealing from each other in the name of compassion.

 

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  • http://www.theproverbialtundra.com ambroseburnside

    “For instance, the Hispanics(and I’m not talking about the ones in the Republican Party
    who believe in hard work)”….

    “The African-American community is being told that Whitey won’t give them a fair shake regardless of how hard they work. The Republican message of working hard and achieving their dreams means playing into Caucasian hands and robbing them of their cultural heritage. Who wants to do that? Let get as much gravy as we can before it runs out.”

    Wow. And we wonder why the Republican Party is having trouble with minority voters? You can’t just say that all non-Republican Hispanics are lazy and that the entire African-American community is only out for “gravy” and expect to ever improve the Republican Party’s standing with these groups!

    • plumely

      If you read the post correctly instead of taking a few points out of context, then you know that’s not what I was saying. I have a feeling you are either a liberal or a squishy Republican who believes the party needs to point leftward at the expense of Conservatives who could put the canidate over the top,but choose to stay home because they don’t want to vote for Democrat lite. So, I know I won’t convince you.

      • http://gardenslegal.com morstar150

        Just because someone disagrees with your perspective that doesn’t make them a “squishy Republican” or a “liberal.” There is a reality setting into place in this country. That is basically what you seem to be attempting to say. That reality is one where there are givers and takers. I am becoming less enthusiastic about the Republican Party because I don’t believe that the Republican leadership (oxymoronic) has the will to put the blame squarely on the source of our problems, an out of control government. Instead, we compromise and placate the liberal media with claims that we want to work with the President to basically screw the business community. It has become a sickening joke! I’m puking!

        • plumely

          I agree with everything you said so i am not sure why you disagree with me.

    • http://gardenslegal.com morstar150

      Yeah, that’s kind of scary commentary.

  • Sir Aaron

    I disagree with the premise that “a lot of them believe that they could just kick off tomorrow.” I think it all starts with the idea that a social net is good and important. On the surface, it sounds great. People don’t consider who will pay for it until conservatives bring it up. Then liberals answer, well, the rich could pay just a little more. 4%, just 4%! Again sounds great to somebody who hasn’t thought it through. I mean 4% doesn’t sound so bad, unless of course, you are at 96%…
    I believe most of the population suffers out of ignorance or lack of morals. And we have ourselves to blame for ceding media and all forms of education to the progressives. People think they can get something for nothing and of course, they vote for more of that something.

    • http://gardenslegal.com morstar150

      Bingo!

  • Viet71

    A lot of Obama supporters are well-educated, upper-middle-class whites, who are politically ignorant and naive.

    I cross paths with a lot of these folks in the N.E. They’re not activists, and they’re not takers. They’re working professionals and pay a lot in taxes.

    They don’t know how scummy Obama is, because their main news source is PBS.

    They think Romney is anti-woman, because that’s what reliable sources have told them.

    So, a bunch of education doesn’t produce good critical thinking? Welcome to the world since whenever.

    • plumely

      I agree with you about their economic class but deep down those white upper class people buy into the fact that their life is so fragile that they should get what they can get now before time runs out and that there is no real future. To me that is the only explaination and what enables out of control government. I might also add that alot of those people might harbor a sense of guilt over their wealth.

      • Viet71

        plumely,

        I write with knowledge about the N.E. Corridor.

        The people about whom I write are not wealthy. They are well-educated Baby Boomer professionals, who take in a lot of income and pay out a lot in taxes and educational expenses.

        • plumely

          Viet, I think we are on the same side… what I am trying to point out is the deep seated attitude that is at the heart of their naivety and ignorance. And that is the notion that we are doomed no matter what we do. It is that sentiment that the Democrats exploit which enables them to do all sorts of governmental mischief.

  • gmat

    There’s also a faction of foreign policy non-interventionists, who are not Democrats, who voted for Obama, because they saw Romney as more likely to engage the US in what they see as ill-chosen adventures abroad.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-vote-a-symposium/

    • plumely

      gmat, not trying to kill the messenger, so thank you for pointing that out. If those people voted for Obama then I put the onus on them to defend why I shouldn’t lump them into the same classification as other Obama supporters. In other words, what posessed them to vote for such a radical leftist and what exactly do they believe that makes people consider them Republican or other?

      • gmat

        plumlely, thanks for not shooting the messenger, and I appreciate your question.

        Not everyone in that article voted for Obama (or declined to vote for Romney), but my reading of the ones that did, is that they are single issue foreign policy voters (in this election). Their single issue is concern about the influence of Romney’s neoconservative FP advisors.

        In other words, they are willing to risk whatever 4 more years of Obama might bring, to avoid having Romney’s FP advisors at the levers of power at State and Defense.

        • plumely

          you are welcome, I don’t know Gmat, it doesn’t seem logical to me. I did not like Romney much, for numerous reasons, but I knew that he would have been at least a little better than Obama all around.

  • WmCraig

    I think you are painting these groups with too broad a brush. In fact, in addition to distinguishing between demographic groups we are going to have to make a distinction between blue state and red state varieties. From my perspective the republicans that have sat out the last couple of elections to “send a message” that it is their way or no way have done something that will be a while yet to absorb. While they were sending a message the democrats were implementing a modern form of segregation.

    I had a meeting today with my closest libertarian and conservative associates to discuss community organizing and how we could offer conservative free market alternatives to Acorn, teachers unions and government unions.

    The outcome was fright and flight. In short, no one is left “In the Blue” that is willing to stand up and be seen as the tall grass. I have not seen this since the late fifties. Everyone wants to stay on their side of the street, to stay where they belong, to stay in their place, not go where they aren’t supposed to go. Not sit at any counters.

    The people who chose not to vote have destroyed their chance to gain their desires. I haven’t given up, but when the ministers, community leaders, and local activists are so scared of being economically lynched not enough people are going to risk voting Republican to change the Senate or the oval office.

    Blue State seniors, blue state religious faithful, blue state ethnic groups are scared. The red state republicans see the carrot, the “give aways” Romney sees. What isn’t be recognized is that Obama uses a carrot and a stick approach. Yeah, the give aways bought votes. What isn’t being acknowledged is that the big stick shut down any hope we have of implementing the right change.

    • plumely

      Wm what I was after was getting at the underlying attitude of Obama supporters. Unfortunately I had to name names to make the point and explain how they reflected the general attitude that there is no future for themselves or this country.

      I agree with you wholeheartedly about those that stay home to send a message. I just don’t understand why they are content to endure four more years of economic misery;.
      But at the same time we need to reach out to those people by doing a better job of articulating and implementing conservative values. Instead, what we do is try to win the hearts and minds of people who despise what we stand for. To do this we try to become a watered down version of the Democrats. Unfortunately, we just aren’t as good at convincing them that we can give out freebies. As a result they always go for the genuine article. Well that’s my rant for this morning.