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The Poop Has Just Hit the Fan for Ron Johnson’s Senate Campaign in Wisconsin

By: pompadour (Diary)  |  June 25th, 2010 at 01:56 PM  | 

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Those of you have been watching my diary over the last week or so are aware that Ron Johnson, Wisconsin candidate for U.S. Senate, is not, perhaps what he’s been attempting to make himself out to be.

If you’ve been watching my comments on other articles, you also know that I was at the Wisconsin state GOP convention in May and saw first-hand what happened with the Senate endorsement.

You’ve heard me assert that there’s a huge story there.

You’ve heard me say that the delayed balloting at convention was highly suspect.

You’ve heard me say that Leinenkugel’s “surprise” endorsement of Johnson smelled like three-day-old fish.

You’ve heard me say that Johnson’s machine had worked to give him the appearance of having “Tea Party credentials” that he hadn’t actually earned.

You’ve heard me caution that Johnson’s claim about not being prepared with certain critical items, like issues statements, for example, because “everything is happening so fast” was frankly a load of hooey.

Well… It seems I’m not alone.

Terrence Wall, the candidate the state party threw under the bus in favor of Johnson, seems to agree. And he’s got plenty more to say.

Since I thought you’d all like to evaluate for yourselves the accusations of fraud and tampering that Mr. Wall is in a unique position to share, I’m posting the link to his interview with WTDY…right here.

Sounds like Mr. Wall’s not done.

Sly says the former candidate will be back in a week or two to elaborate.

I think Dave Westlake is about to see another surge in the polls…

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  • handprop

    I received 7 phone calls so far and it sounds like Wall can provide actual proof of voter fraud…..I guess time will tell.

    handprop

    • roscopico

      A sleazy, slimy, contemptible piece of dog crap that would rather see Feingold win than Johnson.

      Wanna know why Wall didn’t get the nomination? He hasn’t paid taxes in umpteen years, which despite being legal, is a convenient brickbat for the libs to beat him about the head with. He WAS the lib’s favorite Republican candidate, because he’s unelectable, and has the personality of a dead cat to boot.

      Proof-of-character is found not in how you win, but in how you lose… and for this guy to start making out with that contemptible piece of trash Sly is beneath ugly.

      Sour grapes has never been more obvious, and never as stupid. Way to play for the team, Terance Wall you piece of garbage.

      • pompadour

        means turning a blind eye to corruption and sending another dirty player through to the big leagues, then…count me out.

        If Wall can back up his allegations–which we are admittedly all still waiting to learn–then I am honestly asking you to tell me how sending one more corrupt candidate to Washington ultimately serves us?

        If a candidate is willing to engage in fraud on the campaign trail, you can bet he won’t think twice about selling us down the river in Washington when it suits/benefits him in whatever way. That’s why these allegations potentially matter. We need to know if the person we’re sending to Washington actually MERITS the privilege of representing us.

        Let’s face it: The GOP has engaged in way too much “ends justify the means” stuff for ages–not least in Wisconsin. It’s how they’ve managed to compromise themselves and their brand so thoroughly. Rs and Ds have consequently come to mean very little to me. Do I still think I’m far more likely to find a good candidate among the Rs? Yes, I do. The odds go up exponentially. But I sure as heck don’t say to myself, “He MUST be o.k. He’s a Republican!” That stopped a long time ago. Heck… It was never true to begin with.

        Unless we put our foot down and start actually demanding something better than what the GOP routinely hands us, we will keep getting more of the same. No more free passes just because we “need someone who can beat a Democrat.” Forget it.

        If Wall’s claims turn out to be true, it would almost certainly mean that the RPW was complicit in attempting to tailor the September ballot–that they were deciding, to the best of their questionable abilities, who we would and wouldn’t get a chance to vote for. Last I checked, that responsibility was not within their purview. It would also suggest that they’ve selected very badly–on our behalf. Will you be comfortable with that? Ask yourself…

        Me? I’ll choose my candidates for myself.

        I am no fan of Terrence Wall’s. In fact, when he was in the race, I literally cringed at the thought of him representing me. And anyone with any sense knows he’s hoping to effect some justice for himself here. But until we hear the rest of what he has to say–until we know whether there’s concrete evidence, and understand what seriousness and bearing it has–I’m willing to reserve further judgment.

        Pull up a chair…

        Let’s wait together…

        • roscopico

          If Wall had any evidence, he’d have offered it. He did not. He does not.

          If he had any credibility… he’d have evidence, He has neither.

          Of course I’ll expect a full apology after this lying sleazebag’s allegations are proven baseless and unfounded. Then I hope Wall and those of his spineless sleazy ilk crawl back under their rocks.

          And I’m damn serious about that apology. It’s garbage like this that cuts viable Conservatives off at the knees.

          Ask yourself whose team you’re playing for before you give such obvious sour grapes any wheels in the future. It’s bad enough for a lying sore-loser slimeball like Wall, but we in the revanchist conservative movement need allies… not our own soldiers shooting us in the back.

          • namaste

            Love your screen name actually but good gosh, tone it down a bit. Nobody here is trying to be nasty. This is 2010 – we all have our eyes opened a bit more and like it or not, politics can be dirty. Until this story unfolds, there is no reason to get so emotional over this. We really need to just sit back and see where this is going. If the allegations are true, then we are back to politics as usual and, really, we don’t really want that do we? R or D.

          • roscopico

            This is what pi$$35 me right off. Wall running around like the R nomination is his birthright when he’s contributed to lefties, not paid taxes (legally), and quite plainly came off as a jerk in interviews.

            They didn’t throw anybody under the bus, they selected the more credible candidate.

            Now if I understand correctly, Wall alleges Johnson bribed the delegates. Interesting how nobody has come forward to corroborate his slander.

            And yes, I’m mad about it, because this Benedict Wall is deliberately undermining Johnson who polled just last week at 45% to Feingold’s 46%. Wall’s actions stink out loud, and for him to run around urinating in our lemonade is infuriating.

          • namaste

            right now the only person looking bad is you, roscopico.

          • roscopico

            I’m not saying anybody here is crazy, but I am willing to say TWall is a liar.

            I’m amazed how people are ready to curbstomp Ron Johnson without considering the source of the slander. Further, it is amazing to see people willing to throw feces at a credible candidate whose only sin is to win popular support against not one, but TWO non-credible opponents: Wall (the narcissistic non-taxpaying millionaire who also contributes to the most unsavory of Madison Liberals) and Westlake (“I’m-the-blaze-orange-tee-shirt-guy.., If you Love Ron Paul you’ll like me”). Both are non-starters. Sorry.

            And it is clear: The only ones looking bad here are that slimy TWall and those who chose to defend his slander. I suspect a great number of Wall’s defenders will vote Feingold when they finally get the chance…

            Where do you stand?

          • pompadour

            I’d hate to see you drop dead of apoplexy and end up in Himmel before your time.

            Sigh…

            We’re ALL waiting for T. Wall to produce proof. Who here has said any different? And everyone who’s commented here, including me, seems very aware that the man’s motives aren’t entirely pure. As I’ve mentioned, though, not having pure motives and not having proof are two different things. You are stuck waiting to see what T. Wall does and doesn’t have…right along with the rest of us. Not even you can say yet how this thing is going to turn out.

            Where do I stand? Quite simply, I stand on principle. Constitutional principle. And I’m perfectly comfortable with that position, whether you are or not.

            Seriously… Pull up a chair and sit down. We have a few days to wait and see what’s going to shake out–or not. Save the stream of emotional invectives till we all know for sure.

  • indccc

    that linger over the week-end. If Terrence Wall has proof, present it to the proper authorities and the media and get on with it. Why drag it out? Why make us wait “a week or two” to learn more ? Arghhhhhh!

  • RottDawg

    it looks like I won’t need to air that dirty laundry here… T. Wall just did it for me! Go T. Wall! Although I ripped him here before, I give the man props for speaking out!

    • kazma

      I will admit I was never a real big T Wall fan, but today? Today I give him my utmost respect for taking a stand. What I do know of Terrance is that there would be no way in heck he would bring forth these allegations unless he had proof. He has way too much to lose monetarily. I would guess all his ducks are in a row. One step closer bringing back DUTY, HONOR, & COUNTRY!

      Mr. Wall, TODAY YOU ARE DAVE WESTLAKE!

      • handprop

        With no proof it’s meaningless……We need to be focused on jobs, economy, oil on the beach, and liberals.

        I will say this though. I have met Terrence Wall and is a very smart man. I can’t help but wonder what he is up to. My guess is this is far from over. Terrence has a big name in Wisconsin and he wouldn’t risk damage of his brand without having serious proof.

        handprop

  • sassie lassie

    Mr. Ron Johnson

  • redtillimdead

    This is like the allegations against Nikki Haley. I like how everyone suddenly believes them without proof for a candidate they don’t like.

  • handprop

    Is how T Wall made some pretty hefty charges with no immediate proof. This is no small matter when your a big player like he is in Wisconsin, many people in the state know him and a reputation is everything.

    Anyhow, I’ll go out on a limb and say he has proof and will produce it this week, I just can’t see it any other way.

    Maybe I just can’t imagine a person could be that stupid….if he doesn’t produce proof quickly his reputation will be so damaged Wall will have to move out of the country.

    handprop

  • JadedByPolitics

    CANNOT cough up the dough he promised the NRSC that he could to obtain that nomination. In addition to NOT having the money promised it appears his campaign contributions are BAD because well he is NOT the people’s candidate and really WE ALL KNOW that is where the money flow from :)

  • redmassman

    From:
    http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt_and_politics/article_cf2e2474-80a3-11df-83a5-001cc4c03286.html

    “Look, we all thought Wall was going to win,” said Dave Westlake, Johnson’s remaining primary opponent. “But I didn’t see anything, or hear of anything, like (vote tampering or buying votes) going on.”

  • namaste

    Hey redtillimdead & redmassman – you guys related? Sure seem to be. Anyway, I don’t know why you are so on the defense for Johnson. Regardless of this story, he is without substance.

    I can’t say why Wall came out with this, and waited until now to do so. Time will tell but it certainly does not bode well for Johnson.

    This does make all of the shenanigans at convention make more sense to me.

    Of course Westlake didn’t see or hear anything there – neither did Wall. It would have been all over the media that day if it were that blatant.

    I’m not writing this one off – after being at convention, Wall’s allegations make too much sense to me.

  • redmassman

    I’m simply trying to be as impartial to each candidate as possible, and after reading the “Johnson diaries” it’s apparent that both candidates aren’t being vetted equally.

    If I had to guess at a motive for Wall’s recent accusations, I’d say he’s simply a sore loser. After spending significant money (1M?) and thinking he had the convention nomination in the bad, only to be overtaken at the 11th hour by a no-name would irritate anyone!

    If you listen to Wall’s interview, he spends a lot of time implying that Dave Westlake and him are better candidates simply because they’ve been on the trail shaking hands for 8 months. Although I’d tend to agree with him on this point, that doesn’t mean a late entry into the race couldn’t win over delegates (if say the delegates thought Johnson was a stronger candidate against Feingold, despite the late entry)

    Wall also mentioned that the Johnson team poached one of Wall’s campaign advisers and offered him more money. Isn’t this how a free-labor market is intended to operate? Individuals free to make their own decisions?

    If shenanigans did in fact happen at the convention, then it should be exposed – the primary should be fair and transparent! But if the “sign removal incident” and alleged “hotel room deal” without proof is all the hard evidence there is, then this really isn’t a story.

    Down with Feingold!

  • pompadour

    Because I was.

    I’m telling you, what happened was not on the up and up. What Wall is starting to talk about is confirming some of what I already knew from my own experience and investigations. Allegations must be backed up with proof. We are all in agreement about that. I strongly suspect we’ll see the proof and will be the first to back off and apologize if I’m wrong.

    But keep this in mind: Wall’s motives may be sour grapes. Entirely possible. That doesn’t necessarily mean that what he has to say isn’t credible. And ask yourself why he would risk a possible lawsuit if he didn’t have his ducks in a row.

    Wait and see with the rest of us.

    Vetting analysis on Westlake will happen. Give it time.

  • RottDawg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqDNWDEYNXo

    We’ll have to wait for the rest I guess…

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Interesting times. This is why you don’t pick somebody you don’t have ANY history with. Maybe this stuff is true, maybe not. The reason we can’t make any value judgement about it is that this guy came out of NOWHERE.

    Yes, obviously I’m a Westlake supporter. But the point is valid.

  • texasgalt

    but this Wall guy- I wouldn’t put too much faith in his assertions. We’ll see.

    It was a little bothersome that the interview was by “Sly” who if you scoll down to the other interviews, seems pretty OK with Russy boy. He was pretty much acting as the amen corner in his interview with Feingold.

  • pompadour

    and that makes Wall’s choice to talk to WTDY an interesting one. But then again, most of the big conservative talk-radio hosts–Belling, Sykes, McKenna–have all been loudly singing Johnson’s praises over the last month. Could be it was simply a matter of what avenues were open to Wall.

    Hard to say…

  • kazma

    I have said before I am a newcomer to all this stuff. What I find so discouraging is that we are even having this conversation.

    I am quickly learning that what politics IS, and what it’s supposed to be about are two very different things.

    I used to be proud to call myself a republican. I just want to see honesty and integrity restored back to both parties. Once we do that America will be a much better place.

    You know, 5 years ago I would have never gone to a seminar about the Constitution, I would have found it very boring and would have thought what the heck does that old thing have to do with me?? Now I “get it” the Constitution has everything to do with me. I will make sure my children learn it inside and out. I know my comments are “off topic” here but I can ‘t help feel that this kind of “stuff” is a direct result of Americans not realizing that “they” The establishment politicians have been shredding apart the Constitution and our Political processes for years.

    We ARE the greatest nation in the World, I for would like to see us get back to it!

  • E Pluribus Unum

    This is what all the fuss was about.