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The danger of Birthers, Truthers, and other conspiracy spewing nuts.

For much of this countries life, we have had conspiracy nuts. We have always had those who think aliens took them up into the heavens, put them to sleep, stuck things up their nether regions, took their sperm, mixed it with alien DNA then impregnated their women with said sperm, then let them go after the research was done. The one common factor before now about these types of nuts was that most were the outcast of our society who were, for the most part, laughed at but tolerated due to our impression a few screws were not tight upstairs. We recognized the glaring fact that it seemed to always be the same ones who saw UFO’s multiple times in their lives yet never were able to take clear pictures of the craft. We quickly caught on that it was the same trailer park inhabitants that saw Bigfoot twice a year, yet always seemed to be able to only get grainy video of their encounter. We tolerated them because they reminded us of the crazy old relative we all have that had one tooth, spat tobaccy juice on the porch, talked to themselves more than they did to anyone else, but never was anything more than our harmless old coot.

But things began to change with the death of JFK. The conspiracies were no longer about Area 51 or alien abductions being covered up by the federal government, it had become about government involvement in the murder of a sitting president and it use of violence to cover up its involvement. Papers started writing stories about these conspiracies making it look as if their was some legitimacy to the tale, movies were made and presented as fact or based on facts, books were written and advertised as “uncovering the real truth” and all of a sudden it was no longer just the crazy relatives who were buying into the nonsense, it was us normal folks. Now the normal folks were the ones with the tin foil hats, Skoal in the lip, and who were the self chatting, self answering people. But it was still not much of a political issue yet.

Then came the truthers. These were the idiots who felt all science, all video, and all witness reports were lies. They started laying claim to a huge government involvement in the attack and over time turned it into being a government sponsored and even carried out attack. They claimed the Jews were sitting on rooftops with video cameras announcing the attacks before they even occurred. They brought in so called experts that claimed the buildings could not have fallen due to the damage or the heat, it had to be expertly placed explosives that brought them down. They told the world that the attack on the Pentagon was a fabrication and that in fact it was caused by the military firing a rocket at the site. They claimed they had video proof, yet only produced videos that were ludicrous and as grainy as the Bigfoot ones. But their efforts worked. People became sheep and started buying into the nonsense, they started marching demanding the “truth,” produced movies and documentaries that were nothing but speculation and nonsense yet to this day are thrown up as proof by the believing wackos. Their voice was so loud and spreading so fast, we could no longer excuse their behavior as the somewhat cute antics of the crazy relative.

But then came the birthers and with their evolution came a serious problem for us. They were among our ranks and pronounced their attachment to our party. To the birthers, facts mean nothing, only conjecture and complete lack of knowledge mattered. Reason was thrown out the window with these nuts and replaced with the messages of their leaders. And they still clung to the republican banner. Most of us worked hard to educate the sheep but were hindered when leaders in our own party associated themselves, or would not at least denounce their vile spewing, with the idiots and it gave them even more incentive to proclaim they were the truth, not the rest of us. They showed up at Tea Party events, town halls, public protests organized by our side. They quickly found the news cameras and preached to the world all while making our party and our cause look foolish. They became the face of our party and it has hurt us. Never before were candidates from any side asked if they supported fringe conspiracy theories, but now they were. If they did not immediately and loudly denounce the group, they were lumped in as co-believers. They had become a cancer and the cancer was eating us.

In the political arena today, few can win without the votes of the middle. The middle would include the moderates who voted both parties and the independents. But these voters are a fickle group and easily lost in an election year. We have had to fight for these groups this year even when most were as sick of the democrats as we are. The reason we have had to fight so hard when it should have been pretty easy is perception. As the tide towards conservatism grew, the leftist mouths and fingers went into high gear. They quickly called the Tea Party racist. They did not rely on facts to back up their claims, they knew people seldom look for themselves, they simply accept what they hear. So many now believed the Tea Party to be racist. It took a lot of work to change this perception with some of these folks. But then came the birthers and much of our work was in vain. The left no longer had to lie, they simply had to exaggerate. They had the picture and video proof these nuts were at most republican rallies. They had the pictures and video showing these nuts with the real Tea Party people, they simply had to expand on what was there to make it look as if the majority of the Tea Party believed or condoned the belief. And it worked and worked well. Many in the middle firmly believe that a majority of our party believe, support, or condone these idiotic views.

In order to take this country back we must expel all who align themselves with these views. We must create a wide gap between those of us who want our country back and know the right way to accomplish that goal and those who see UFO’s in all that is. They are not our friends and they only destroy all we have worked so hard to achieve. Their lowbrow views must be rejected entirely or we will pay the price. Perception is a hard thing to beat and we have our work cut out for us. Winning this time is assured, but the anger will subside and then it will be up to us to keep the votes. If the middle continues to see us as a party engulfed with stupid people who maintain stupid views, they will reject us. The only way to change their perception is to treat the birthers, truthers, and other conspiracy theory spewers as cancer. We must cut the cancer out and be done with it for our own good. It is the only way! We must fight the nuts harder than we fight the democrats as they are not our friends, they are our enemies.

COMMENTS

  • ssshannon1026

    But a few thoughts…

    As a general rule, when it comes to conspiracies, you can be sure of only this – there is a real conspiracy, but if you and I know about it, either it ain’t the real one, or it wasn’t really a very good conspiracy to begin with.

    The viral spread of so many fake conspiracies with modern technology makes it far easier to manage real ones.

    As to your main point about winning the middle, I’m not so sure I would worry too much about that. To me ‘fighting for the middle’ isn’t really much of a strategy. Its like fighting for the ‘not too high ground’. The people who remain in the middle are generally there because they don’t really believe in much of anything anyway. The only way you can win them is to be the party that doesn’t have much of anything to offer philosophically – to be as luke warm and toned down as possible. And that has been the fundamental problem with Republicans that brought us to this junctiure. Frankly, I’d rather have the nut job birthers on my side. At least they are more entertaining.

    And rather than being pandered to, those in the middle should be given a conservative ultimatum – we believe in Capitalism and Christianity, if you don’t like that, have fun with the Marxists.

  • jaydebull

    you were talking about.. Seriously, you seem a little too concerned over something that is so two years ago.. Barack Barry Hussein Sotoro Obama, or whatever his name is, does not seem to act in the best interest of our country, and whether he was born here or not, he is leading it, and a leader that does not act in the best interest of their Country is generally considered a traitor.. For some it is just an easier path to logically justify that in your mind, then to believe he purposfully wants to destroy this Country. As for myself I see a strong resemblance with some of those kling-ons.. Beam me up Scotty.

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    … to take a more critical view of some of what you have posited.

    Just as having conspiracy zealots within party ranks tends to be a bit problematic from a public relations point of view, so does making broad, sweeping assessments of what certain subsets of folks tend to think based on casual, surface observation of what they look like. This is what the LEFT often does. It wants to caricature, for example, rural conservatives as being cast-offs from the set of Deliverance, who enjoy a bunk-up with ol’ sis, beat their wives, and chew, “tobaccy”.

    This tactic by the left is a visceral emotional mechanism to marginalize and otherwise disregard those with whom they have no commonality, and whom they don’t even want to acknowledge as human, much less congnizant and cogent (-how could they be, you see, if they don’t agree with the left?). Hitler pulled this with the Jews, making them sub-human animals, painting them as snaggle-toothed monsters: it made them easier to hate. Those of us on the right that believe all human beings carry the divine spark of Godly inspiration must never fall to stereotyping and its enticing thrall precisely because it devalues all human being.

    Barack Obama was certified by the President of the United States Senate as the duly elected President of the United States and was sworn in by Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court–; He simply IS the President, so all questions vis-a-vis his legal qualifications are rather moot at this point. But, the fact is, I don’t know where he was born, and neither do you. Certainly, there are as many indicators pointing to a foreign birth as to a domestic one. If the most solid piece of evidence is a contemporaneous birth notice in a Honolulu nespaper, that seems pretty thin drippings, to me.

    I was born roughly the same time, in the early 1960′s. You can find a picture of me taken by the retained hospital photographer dated the day after my birth. You can find the visitors logs to the hospital that note the visits by my grandparents. There is a copy of the long-form birth certificate at the county court house. And there are dozens of people still living that will attest to the fact that mom was at Sparrow Hospital, Lansing, Michigan giving birth to me. My mom will back these statements up, and so will the register at the local Catholic church.

    None of these elemental things exist in the case of Barack Obama.

    But, as I say, so what? Doris Day comes in about now and starts singing “Que Sera, Sera”…What is troubling with your post is that you seem to agree with those on the left that those who question his eligibilty are “conspiracy” theorists. They used to call folks like this “skeptics” or “questioners”.

    I agree with your sentiments that the murder of John Kennedy rather inflated the conspiracy biz here in the United States (and, to calm your fears, I absolutely believe Kennedy was murdered by Lee Harvey Oswald because Oswald was a violent, puerile Marxist malcontent.) But The Biz was also helped along by such things as the cloud over the Tonkin Gulf incident, which turned out as verifiably the most blatant conspiracy event in the history of the United States. There were actual people that actually conspired to cover up actual, historical events to bend the will of the American people toward an actual certain outcome.

    The reality is that people in power screw up, sometime rather dramatically, and it is crucial in a democracy that the people remain vigilant to the odor of cover-up and it potential attendant crimes. What of the birth of Barack Obama? Would it be beyond the pale to request that ALL major party presidential candidates submit official documents to their nominating bodies of such proof before the election on 2012? Would it be beyond the ability of those of us on the right to educate the public as to why this is important constitutionally, rather than allow the mainstream press and entertainments to demagogue and lampoon the issue?

    This, of course, is the crux of your thesis: That we simply must live with these mainstream caricatures because it’s the only way we can win the minds of those “in the middle”. I submit that there is another way: Be rhetorically sound, and be persuasive in the arena of ideas.

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  • powertothepeople

    as had you simply read what was printed you would see that I did not call or insinuate that conspiracy nuts look like the crazy coot most of us have in our ancestor tree. The coot issue was simply added to compare the way we accept the nut in our family because they are harmless and tend to give us a laugh here and there as being the same way we always looked at conspiracy spreaders in the past.

    In fact the only time I brought up a personal characteristic was with the UFO folks. For some odd reason they always tend to live in run down trailer parks and seem to have been lucky enough to see those pesky UFOs multiple times from their dingy kitchen window.

    I will agree that there have been times where cover ups have occurred. I would even go as far as saying there are times that the weirdest conspiracies are based, ever so slightly, in reality. But that was not the point. The point was simply that these nut job birthers and truthers are killing us. They associate with our cause and make us look like fools. There is no disputing that and it is why so many conservative groups, this one included, have banned them and their beliefs.

    The birther are not skeptics or questioners as you put it. They are idiots and nothing more. You stated facts about your birth, but it is apples and oranges. There is proof, solid proof, Obama was born in Hawaii. It is not just some small picture, it is much more. Even the ones who accept the fact he was born in this country start trying to spew twisted law all while ignoring the 14th amendment. We have tried for years to show them facts and they choose to ignore it. That fact alone eliminates them from the ranks of skeptics and or questioners. I can be skeptical that it is raining outside when you tell me, but when you open the door, show me the rain, walk outside and come back in soaked, if I chose to continue to claim it is not raining I am no longer a skeptic, I am an idiot. And idiots are what the birthers are.

    It is not about forcing everyone into mainstream thought, it is about keeping stupid people with stupid beliefs out of our party and keeping the rest focused on beating Obama with legitimate and proven tactics.

  • powertothepeople

    N/T

  • powertothepeople

    Forgot to hit the reply to this button. Look below for my response….

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    …and use my limited resources and time trying to expose the idiot conspiracy theories (and theorists) on the Left. These theories, such as anthropogenic “global warming” and “green economies”, demand-side stimulus, and peace through appeasement are far more menacing and enduring than where some campus radical Marxist back-bencher state legislator was born (or not)…

    And the left will continue to lampoon the right without regard to whether or not we actually HAVE stump-toothed morons in our midst.

    But, hopefully we all meet at a center-point of active agreement.

    I would continue to caution that there seems to be a streak of broad-brush stereotyping against which you may want to moderate: “They always tend to live in run-down trailer parks” is not a particularly helpful descriptor, especially for folks we are trying to persuade toward the correctness of our arguments.

    As for being less serious: I’m one of the most fun-loving guys you’ll ever hope to meet.. I will also add that I am not the guy hoping to “expel” people from a party for being “cancerous”. Which sounds pretty darn pointedly serious. I would also like to hear your proposals, by the way, as to how, exactly, we “expel” such people, anyway? Again, I would prefer to educate and persuade, and actually listen from time to time.

  • powertothepeople

    why you continue to worry so much about how conspiracy nuts are described, but each to his own.

    As far as expelling them, it is easy. Here is how we are doing it and it should be done.

    You ban them from conservative sites. At the first word, you kick them to the curb. This site has done quite well with this and so has many others. The moment a birther opens their mouths here, they are repulsed form every side and as quickly as a mod comes by, they are banned. Across the web it is known this site is no where even close to friendly to birthers.

    You kick them from any events or at least make sure they are treated as outcasts. Many of your major groups do this very thing. People go to rallies with signs that clearly state birthers are not a part of this group. This tactic started due to the leftist who snuck in to tea party rallies with racist signs. As soon as they were seen, people would surround them with signs proclaiming these folks were not a part of the group. Many are now doing it with birthers and it has worked well.

    We denounce them. Every politician and every person who lives politics should denounce the view. The birthers gain confidence when a person does not denounce their views. They start claiming the person supports their agenda. But when a politician or group denounces them loudly, the birthers move on.

    There are plenty of ways to kick them out or at least make their message irrelevant. We just have to do it. You want to listen to them, fine. But the rest of us will out right reject their stupidity and keep them from our group. Not because we are inclusive, but because we have a serious goal to rid this country of the dems and the birthers should not nor will they have a voice in that effort.

    Listen to them all you want, hell, you can join them if you want, but as for the rest of us with common sense, we will expel them like cancer and not lose a moments sleep over it.