From the diaries by Erick.
The only real test for the stability of a constitution is not how it copes with consensus, but how it stands up to the stresses of division. Iran’s complicated constitutional structure is about to face that test.
Some have suggested that all power lies with the Supreme Leader. Some media have even described the position of Supreme Leader as one chosen for life. This is not so. On paper, the real power lies with the Assembly of Experts. Whether that is so in practice, remains to be seen. The Assembly of Experts chooses, supervises, and can dismiss the Supreme Leader. There have, of course, only been two Supreme Leaders, and the first died in office, without ever having been challenged. But the constitution of Iran does not require that the role be a job for life, not does it require that the Assembly remain supine.
There is no evidence that the Assembly of Experts has ever challenged any opinion or position of the Supreme Leader - though since it meets only in secret, no such evidence would be likely to come to light, even if it had been a very boisterous organisation. But this crisis is one that has no precedent. At the very summit of the state, revolutionary loyalists who served with Khomeini are deeply divided.
The authority of the Supreme Leader has been challenged. He called for the demonstrations to stop, and they did not stop. The Assembly of Experts can hold him to account in his hour of weakness. The Assembly could summon him and ask him questions. Why, for example, did he declare that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had been re-elected without waiting for the constitutionally mandated period in which candidates could challenge the conduct of the election? Why has he prejudged the enquiry into the election by the Council of Guardians, an enquiry which he himself requested?
Constitutionally, the Assembly of Experts can replace the Supreme Leader, and a new Supreme Leader could replace half of the members of the Council of Guardians. In law, it is with the Assembly that real authority lies.
The problem for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is that his greatest political foe - Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - chairs the Assembly of Experts. Candidates linked to Rafsanjani won 65 of the 86 places in the last election. So when the government - presumably with Ahmadinejad’s blessing - arrested members of Rafsanjani’s family, it was probably a tactical error. He may have threatened his own position, and that of his main protector, the Supreme Leader.
The fact that Rafsanjani’s list won the last elections does not mean that any of the things I have described are inevitable or even likely. That members of the Assembly of Experts were aligned with Rafsanjani at the time of the election does not mean they are under his control or necessarily agree with him on this issue. Many may be cautious of flexing the Assembly’s muscles, for fear of breaking the system entirely.
Can the Assembly of Experts assert the powers which the constitution gives it, but which have never been used? No-one knows. Could the constitution survive any attempt to assert those powers? No-one knows the answer to that either. If the Assembly were to dismiss the Supreme Leader, would the Revolutionary Guard or the army recognise the change? We live in interesting times.

Politically Neutral posting.
naraht Monday, June 22nd at 11:13AM EDT (link)My guess is that this exact posting could go up on DK without any problem..
What could be posted on DK with no problem is the most pressing issue
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 22nd at 11:56AM EDT (link)not
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never thought of posting there
qlangley Monday, June 22nd at 11:54AM EDT (link)but you may well be right.
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back to relevance...Thanks for putting meat on the bones of this matter Q' - so it seems that the supreme leader is actually #3
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 22nd at 11:59AM EDT (link)#2 is the AOE
#1 is WTP, ultimately
despite the obahonorifics
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/20/obamahonorific/
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But where do they stand?
qlangley Monday, June 22nd at 12:33PM EDT (link)It is not at all clear where the people of Iran actually stand on any of this.
There seems little doubt that Ahmadinejad had considerable support in the election. He probably defeated Rafsanjani legitimately four years ago - though his support may have been inflated to put him into the run off in the first place.
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Michael Ledeen has said for years that the public split
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 22nd at 12:40PM EDT (link)has been generationally driven and was more than 50/50 against the regime at least 10-15 years ago and is growing more so.
But even if its not, isn’t what will really matter in the first instance be the numbers that demonstrate their opposition. It seems to me that the elections in Iraq and even Afghanistan together with the high % of yutes that voted for the first time this year in Iran are significant as many voted with naivete and hope looking at Iran and ignorant of past election shams in which few voted.
Their hopes are dashed and they are passionate and that could trump actual overall numbers.
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Too many young men
qlangley Monday, June 22nd at 12:46PM EDT (link)can be a problem for any country. Nearly all the countries with a very high proportion of under 30s are in some state of disruption or civil war.
I don’t think we can assume that because people are young, they are against the regime, but they may nonetheless be troublesome for it.
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Not assuming. All I can go on is Ledeen and others that have made a life studying Iran
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 22nd at 1:00PM EDT (link)And I probably should have used the term “theocratic” rule rather than regime.
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with 40% unemployment, any Nation will have issues with their youth
JLenardDetroit Monday, June 22nd at 6:24PM EDT (link)regardless of their Political structure… Of course, we would (IMO, correctly) argue if they had a Freedom/Capitalist based system they would never have gotten to that point. Although, with Obama…. I’ll save it for another diary…
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (Reco) (Quotes) (removeRINOs.com) (Merry RSmas)
+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” - a Rush caller (other Quotes)
adjami and zakaria - links re disgust with theocracy
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 22nd at 12:42PM EDT (link)http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124563005022735881.html
http://www.newsweek.com/id/202979
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While Iranians dodge bullets to protest, will Americans dodge UVA/UVB rays for their voices?
JLenardDetroit Monday, June 22nd at 6:20PM EDT (link)I know that a mention of “TEApeats” (as I call them) may be a bit off-topic but NOT entirely. As they fight for Freedom and to not be SLAVES to their State and sympathizers across the U.S. join in to lend moral support - is it “fair” to ask how many Americans will get off their hind-side and the safety of their couches to stand up for OUR CONSTITUTION?!?! Since you mention Iran’s Constitution, and I greatly thank you for your fine Diary and putting things in a proper context.
Authorities only get away with … well… anything/everything… as long as they have masses held down by the boot-heel (as in Iran) or by complacency. We on the Right always are talking about standing for Freedom and we are again being shown as the ONLY ones that provide anything other than lip-service to it, as Obama’s rhetoric (although, it may have changed yet again today) but is now, finally, being pushed by us and the correct side of history (if not now, eventually)!
We must continue to stand up and demonstrate our concern for FREEDOM for any/all around the world. Iranians are risking their Lives, will Americans risk sunburn? for their next potential opportunity to stand for our Freedoms/Constitution at a TEApeat?
Plan to attend a TEApeat July 4, 9/12, Thanksgiving, etc…
ReTeaParty (for 4th of July) site
Contact the other sites and urge them to organize for the subsequent dates also:
09/12/09 DC Tax Protest
Tea Party Revolution site
FreedomWorks
Alliance Defense Fund
archive:
Tax Day Tea Party site (w/ Daily email update option)
Tea Party Convention (June 13, 2009)
Q, I hope you don’t mind I tied the two…. Yes, we do NOT face anything like those abroad fighting for their freedom, but if we do not fight to maintain it here there will be no-one to help them fight for freedom ever/later. We have no excuses and they brave little chances - let us continue to pray for them!
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (Reco) (Quotes) (removeRINOs.com) (Merry RSmas)
+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” - a Rush caller (other Quotes)