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(Update) Blood in the water. John Boehner, make those Senators vote on CCB.

By: RealQuiet (Diary)  |  July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 PM  | 

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(H/T Carolina — The vote in the Senate on CCB is scheduled for Saturday according to Freedom Works.  Great news!)

Refuse to consider any Senate bill until CCB is voted on in the Senate.

The most hilarious article of the day:  Reid is waiting for John Boehner to tell him the path forward.  Hello, he already told you with the bill he passed.  Now vote on it.  Of course, Reid and the MSM are trying their best to pooh-pooh it, saying it is DOA in the Senate.  Prove it is DOA, Senator Reid.  Call for a vote on the freshly passed CCB bill that the House just passed.

Folks, there is no way CCB is dead in the Senate so long as the GOP Senate insists on the floor and on the air waves for a vote.  The reason why is Harry Reid doesn’t want to call this bill to the floor for a vote.  Why?

Daniel Akaka, Hawaii,  Jeff Bingaman, New Mexico, Sherrod Brown, Ohio Joe Manchin, West Virginia, Maria Cantwell, Washington, Benjamin Cardin, Maryland, Thomas Carper, Delaware. Robert Casey, Jr., Pennsylvania,
Kent Conrad, North Dakota, Diane Feinstein, California Kirsten Gillibrand, New York, Amy Klobuchar, Minnesota.  Herb Kohl, Wisconsin.  Claire McCaskill, Missouri Robert Menendez, New Jersey. Ben Nelson, Nebraska. Bill Nelson, Florida. Debbie Stabenow, Michigan, Jon Tester, Montana, Jim Webb, Virginia, Sheldon Whitehouse, Rhode Island.

There are seven (I mistakenly made Tom Carper of Delaware red.  No way that seat flips.) strong likelihood of flips in that list alone.  That would put the GOP at a 54 seat majority Senate for 2012.  The interesting seats are Bill Nelson in Florida and Debbie Stabenow in Michigan.  Stabenow got a huge shot across the bow when Pete Hoekstra announced his candidacy for the U.S. Senate seat in Michigan.  Hoekstra is a first tier candidate.  The dust in Florida has yet to settle but whomever gets Marco Rubio’s endorsement is going to prove to be a very stiff challenge for Nelson.  If those seats flip it is +9 for the GOP.  Light blue seats are those that I would probably consider fools’ gold but shouldn’t be given up on.

This list should tell you that Reid DOES NOT want to bring this to a vote in the Senate.  If a vote came up, it is very possible that there could be enough vulnerable Democrats who would vote to save their jobs and (Democratic gulp) send the bill to Obama’s desk.  Want further evidence?

The Obama administration signalled it may accept a short-term increase in the U.S. debt limit if it is combined with a major agreement to cut the deficit.

“The president has been clear that he will not support a short-term extension of the debt ceiling” without an agreement to cut the deficit, White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters today. President Barack Obama plans to meet with top congressional Democrats today as the Aug. 2 deadline for raising the US$14.3-trillion debt limit nears.

While the deadline is “real and fast,” the press secretary said, “there is still time to do something significant if all parties are willing to compromise.”

Remember Obama’s temper tantrum when Cantor suggested a short-term deal that would make this an election year issue?  If the White House is now considering making this an election year issue, they seriously don’t want this debate going any further.  The passage of CCB has forced their hand.  The coordinated counter-response with the “Gang of 6 to the rescue!” kabuki theater that was created by Democrat and some GOP elitists to defang House conservatives has failed and boomeranged badly.

Here’s more.  If Tom Harkin is complaining about the cult fringe getting in the way, you know the Democrats in the Senate aren’t happy.  By the way, anyone see a budget from Reid or plan to solve the debt ceiling problem yet?

Please Speaker Boehner, refuse to consider any Senate plan until CCB is voted on by the Democratic Senate.  Insist on a vote in the Senate.

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  • carolina

    http://action.freedomworks.org/email/view/1493/

    • RealQuiet

      n/t

  • Kyle-MI

    The only question is whether he can kill it by a straight vote or if he needs to kill it by filibuster. Filibustering while you are in the majority should look bad politically, and yet it would still shield Obama from having to wield a veto. (Maybe Reid is simply counting on the Obama veto? Unlikely, but stranger things have happened.)

    I just hope that, on our side, we can keep the Senate GOP united. It should be a no-brainer. If the Dems are going to kill it, why would any Republican vote against it? And yet I am sure that there will be some brain dead Senator willing to give the Dems some cover.

    • gekster

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      • audax

        …..

    • Kyle-MI

      There is a posting on NRO about a possible House vote on the Gang of 6 plan. Is there a backroom deal that the Senate would vote on the CCB if the House votes on the G6? In which case all bets are off. It would be like everyone showing what is in their hand. Either vote might go either way.

      • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

        First, its a great step forward to get the CCB vote in the Senate. Even if it gets 47 votes only, the CCB will have earned the spport of the majority of the members of Congress.

        The Gang of 6 is a big big tax increase. $3.7 trillion tax hike over 10 years according to IBD. They only talk of ‘tax cut’ because they double-count the savings from the end of Bush tax cuts and supposed end of AMT … yet both have been extended in the past. From current tax levels, its a $3.7 trillion tax hike, which puts the spending ‘cuts’ to shame. If the Congress is going to vote on this, every Republican needs to vote NO on this.

        It’s also true that the deal has not been scored nor marked-up nor has it got legislative language. It’s a mess. The Democrats are hoisted on their own petard, having played the strategy of ‘no plans just criticisms’ to the point of being empty-handed in the crunch.

        This is a GOP win/win… First, we will get recorded votes on where Democrats stand – against fiscal responsibility, against balancing the budget, against cutting back on the excessive spending, and possibly for crippling tax hikes. They will be nailed as tax-and-spend liberal Democrats.

        The gang-of-six plan, in the end, will collapse under the weight of its internal contradictions. Anything Dick Durbin likes will HAVE to be opposed by 218 Republicans in the House. Have people not noticed that the sellout of last week, McConnell plan, is not being talked about? Its not being talked about because it has no traction. It has no traction because the House has no interest.

        And so it goes. The only plan that has won enough support in both houses to be the framework for a deal is CUT, CAP and BALANCE. The GOP needs to keep hammering away at this basic point while happily taking more votes that further expose the real Democrat agenda and their lack of fiscal responsibility.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Should the CCB get more than 50 votes … THEN THE GOP CAN CHECKMATE THE PRESIDENT:

    1) The “CUT” part of cut cap and balance is a $110 billion cut for next year.

    2) The “CAP” is in effect a spending / budget roadmap. With the numbers that are a path akin to the Ryan roadmap. It does not specify the spending, but it

    3) The BBA can be changed from an amendment to enabling House and Senate rules, even if the BBA falls short. Who would vote for the BBA then oppose making laws and rules that support its provisions.

    we know why Reid hates this: Democrat Senators are ‘on the hook’ to make a decision. But more than that … This blows a complete hole in the Democrat strategy.

    They wanted/needed to divide the GOP caucus and/or cause a panic.

    ALL THE GOP NEEDS TO DO IS BE UNIFIED, NOT DIVIDED, HOLD FIRM, AND INSIST THAT ANY DEBT CEILING RAISE WILL REQUIRE THE CUTS LAID OUT IN CCB AND THE 10-YEAR BUDGET OF THE “CAP”.

    ONCE WE HAVE A MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES FOR THE PROVISIONS HERE – GAME OVER.

    Now this requires every single Republican to support it, and a few Democrats. But even if not, “Cut + $500 billion debt ceiling raise” is a possible short-term offering.

    Should we get this deal, the Tea Party “NO” folks will have to be smart enough to recognize this as the bird in hand.

    they could get

    • jimmyneutron

      a tomorrow which just never seems to come. We waited for many years to draw a real line in the sand and say this is as far as it goes. Of course, we always had to compromise because the time wasn’t right or the perfect election just had not been won or what ever. This reminds me of union civil war generals who always complained that they just didn’t have enough troops or supplies or whatever to win a battle, so just give them a little more and then they would go fight.

      Well, I think they have had enough of my money and my kids money and their kids money and on and on and on…

      A few things to consider:
      1. I see no reason to rush any deal though because of some artificial deadline set by Obama or anyone else.
      2. I have read nothing that indicates we will default except threats by Obama and fearful expressions by republican leaders
      3. I don’t trust the politicans of either party to do the right thing here (except ‘Tea Party’ freshman who seem to understand that this is about the future of freedom and not about their short term financial success along with a few others such as Jim Demint and Michele Bachmann).
      4. We want one of two things
      a. A ‘long term’ deal that increases the debt ceiling by the amount Obama is calling for, but one that is coupled with NO new taxes and with Real, large, immediate spending cuts (not promises of future cuts that will never happen).
      b. A short term deal that increases the debt ceiling by a small amount (to carry us forward a few months) and that also cuts spending by at least that much but preferrably 2 or 3 times that much.

      I personally am very thankful for the ‘Tea Party “No” folks’ who have managed to hold our sides feet to the fire so that we can even have this conversation and so that the progressives of both parties could not just keep raising the debt ceiling while no one noticed or cared.