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Debate Recap: The Perry pile-on

Anyone have any doubts whom the clear frontrunner for the nomination is now.  Rick Perry had a great big bulls-eye targeted on him tonight and every candidate had him in the crosshairs, including non-candidates. A short summation:

Michelle Bachmann was actually very good tonight, much more forceful.  The problem is that her campaign is fading badly.  Rick Perry’s entry into the race completely nuked her chances.  Her, Rick Santorum and later Sarah Palin’s tag team on the Gardisil issue created some good attack optics that may be good for the short-term.  The problem is that Rick Perry has already admitted his mistake and dropped the issue.  It is funny how it is neglected to be mentioned that there was an opt-out provision in this legislative bill should it have passed.  It is the classic “Making a mountain out of a mole hill” attack.  Sarah Palin’s follow up to Michelle Bachmann’s attack was particularly pathetic.  Though Perry’s response that he could be bought off for so little was insulting could be taken the wrong way, to accuse someone of being a crony capitalist because a company that stood to gain the most from passage of the legislation paid a whopping $5000 contribution to persuade Governor Perry to sign the legislation is quite weak indeed.  I wonder if Sarah Palin knew about this before endorsing Perry for Governor in the last election.

Perry’s rebuttal of Mitt Romney’s Social Security attack was excellent.  His use of Romney’s book against him was particularly effective.  However, the biggest and most unpleasant surprise was Perry’s stand on immigration.  Providing in-state tuition rates for illegal immigrants is endorsing lawlessness, plain and simple.  It also undercuts of those who have honestly and forthrightly followed the legal path to become an American citizen.   Granted, it takes years to become a citizen of this country.  The road is hard and long but it does test the commitment, resolve and character of the prospective citizen to ensure that they will be law-abiding citizens of our great nation.   If they cannot abide by the laws of becoming a citizen, it stands to reason they are likely not to follow the laws of our country.  This could be a shrewd political move by Perry to get some Hispanic votes in his corner.   I’m still in Perry’s corner, but I do disagree strongly with him on this issue.

Mitt was Mitt.  Very polished, very steady.  Problem is that I just don’t believe the man is genuine and have no idea where his true convictions lie.  Newt Gingrich has performed very, very well in the debates.  The others?  I don’t have an opinion because they are irrelevant now.  Michelle Bachmann is fast approaching this point.  I don’t see how she claws her way back.

This race is still Rick Perry’s to lose.

COMMENTS

  • onemovoter

    And some make some very good points. Should talk about them. Here are a few quotes.

    “Here in Texas we have two options ? since the Federal government has abdicated their role in enforcing immigration laws, securing the border and declines to refund the state?s taxpayers for doing the Fed?s job ? we either throw our hands up and let these people stay where they are, continuing to drain the taxpayers, or incentivize them to become productive citizens by granting them in-state tuition fees; and as a teacher I can tell you they have to stay on track for US citizenship or the rates go up to the regular levels. This was done in an attempt to help us alleviate the burden on the State due to the Feds not doing their job.”

    “You?re right and it sucks, but in a state like Texas we can either help get these individuals become productive members of our state or face increased taxes to cover them due to the Feds inaction and non-existant enforcement. So, we?ve chosen to pay a little over 2-4 years to those that have proven they want to become citizens rather than pay out far more for possibly decades to come. I don?t agree with it in principle, but we have to do something to help the taxpayers since the Governor of Texas doesn?t have the authority to deport anyone and again the Feds just catch and release back to the State?s dole.”

    “Y?all are confusing decisions made by Perry at the state level as being done under the same circumstances as facing the Federal government. Perry can?t deport anyone just like he can?t grant clemency, he doesn?t have the authority. Perry can?t cut off illegals from the state dole, its a Federal mandate on the states. So what should he do in a state like Texas with our illegal population? Jail them all? The Feds already said they won?t pay us back. Shoot them? What? ”

    There are many other comments that were back and forth on this. I am one to be real about the issues when you are limited in your power to deal with problems. To me the entire Texas gov did what it though was best, and didn’t cost other states. Once the Federal Gov actually does it’s job on the border, this problem will eventually go away.

    • acat

      The Perry approach to immigration in Texas is much more pragmatic than, say, the approach Tancredo talks about wanting to take…deport ‘em all and militarize the border to seal it…

      A couple points on Tancredo. In short, follow the money, not the hot air.

      First, count the cost of all the new ICE employees who will be rounding up and deporting, and their bureaucratic supervisors etc. Who’s footing that bill?

      Second, militarizing and sealing the border runs into eminent domain issues – the land right up to the border is owned by private citizens – ranchers, farmers, etc. – on both sides, who may not be interested in providing access for a platoon to jog past twice a day. Does the government just take the land? If so, again, who’s paying for the land? Oh, and who’s paying for the increase in the armed services budget? Tanks and humvees get lousy gas mileage.

      Third, we are a nation of immigrants. Perry’s pragmatic approach, trying to get the best and brightest into colleges and into our workforce, would be applauded if we were talking about refugees from Cuba or China… so why the push-back because these folks fled an equally oppressive government?

      Mew

      * For The Win

    • wacowboy

      is that the law requires that a person be on a path to citizenship in order to receive in-state tuition. I think that Rick could have done a better job of highlighting this key difference and it would have benefitted him. As it is, it came off sounding like DREAM Act lite.

  • colegrayson

    that frosts my queso flameado is Gardisil. The man repeatedly apologized for how it was handled and still they piled on. He conceded the point and still they pounced, and in my mind, Perry came out ahead on that exchange simply because he never stooped to their level and looked sympathetic. He apologized you are right he is wrong, let it go. Nobody is perfect, but if you think for one second that Perry is not the best candidate to defeat Obama you are majoring in minors, and Mitt, oh Barry Obama let me tell you is just itching to have healthcare validated and taken off the table. You want change? Vote for Rick, because while he may aggravate you rarely he accepts responsibility always.