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(Stunning update) Out of the ashes and leaky buckets? Rick Perry may be catching fire again

(Update:  Rasmussen has come out with a new Iowa poll:  Romney 23, Gingrich 20 (!) Paul 18, Perry 10.  I’m shocked by the Gingrich free fall.  Seems like a lot of Iowa voters that were supporting Gingrich went back to the undecided pile)

Let’s just say….I don’t want to get prematurely excited.  I have seen the polls from the American Research Group and Insider Advantage showing Rick Perry gaining a lot of momentum from November until now in Iowa and South Carolina.   People and operatives on the ground in Iowa thought that Perry’s advertising and messages were starting to take hold prior to these polls coming out.  It may be a combination of this and Newt Gingrich’s record and personal history turning off that huge carousel of conservative voters that have been migrating trying to find a home for a conservative candidate they like and trust.

Rasmussen will be due out with a poll very soon in Iowa I have to imagine.  If Rasmussen verifies the polling of American Research Group and Insider Advantage, then Perry’s momentum will be confirmed and would be very worrisome to both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney.  If we start seeing Rick Perry getting 16-20% of the vote before Christmas, then I really am going to start getting excited.  This will indicate potentially breakaway momentum and he may likely win Iowa.  Keep in mind that the coalition of Iowan conservative leaders  haven’t come out with an endorsement of a conservative candidate they are going to get behind.   If Perry gets this endorsement while on the big Iowa bus tour he is about to embark on, this could potentially propel him to get that breakaway momentum.  Heck, even a Redstate endorsement wouldn’t hurt (sorry Erick, I couldn’t resist :) )

Looks like this isn’t going unnoticed elsewhere in the conservative blogosphere.

Leaky Buckets — Status quo GOP candidates

I have seen so much chatter about electability in this election.  More than ever, we want a candidate who we know will beat Barack Obama.  The GOP establishment has been wanting to push Mitt Romney on us for some time.  Newt Gingrich isn’t really all that attractive to the GOP establishment but he would likely hold the status quo of government somewhat together given his recent statements, most notably in his interview with Glenn Beck, and his past history of playing both sides of the fence like Romney does.  This creates the problem of a lot of GOP conservative voters staying home.  The erroneous belief is to skim as much votes from the middle while trying to minimize the loss of voters in your base.  This is done by muddling your positions.  Hence, this is why I think that Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich can be considered as leaky buckets because of each of their unique deficiencies.  Newt Gingrich said it best that you don’t try to go get the voters in the middle, you get the voters in the middle to come to you.  You don’t have to worry about that with Rick Perry.  The past issues regarding immigration and Gardisil have been addressed.  His debating has vastly improved.  I don’t see any leaks with Perry now.

Instead of wringing our hands in the hopes of winning by nominating one who may poll the best in head to head matchups with Obama, I have a different suggestion.  Why not do what we did in 1980?  Nominate a conservative candidate who is campaigning on reforming Washington/government that will assure the GOP base comes out and take our chances with independent voters which Barack Obama has a 35% approval rating with?  It would be so nice to not have to hold our nose to vote for the GOP nominee in November 2012.

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  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    That’s my hope! Great article here, and let’s hope your optimism is warranted by the facts.

    • circlegranch

      the link is at the right side of the home page. Go vote! This is a great way to let Fox know if they are giving fair coverage to all the candidates or not. If somebody they ignore does well, maybe they’ll figure it out.

      • tyman

        I don’t see the poll.

        Thanks.

        • nancysabet

          please give us the link

      • romansdaughter

        I am like Tyman can’t find this poll.

        • circlegranch

          for those not able to find where to vote, I apologize but I just checked it again and there’s no link to it; you just vote. I went to: www.foxnation.com and it automatically changes to www.foxnews.com. At the right of the page, I scrolled down and there it was. Maybe you didn’t scroll far enough? Anyway, that’s the best I can do. I clicked on ‘see results’ to see if there was another website but there wasn’t. Good luck. If it helps, you’ll be on the correct page when you see a big photo of Rush. Then go to the far right and start going down the page till it shows up. Hope you can find it and sorry for not being able to give more specific directions.

          • tyman

            nt

          • romansdaughter

            Go vote, as Fox so far has him at 3% support below Bachmann. Need to all get over there and show them a thing or two.

          • avagreen

            not saying much, but he’s rising in that poll. Considering it’s FOX and their fans, not surprising.

            FOX needs to find another henhouse to guard. They’ve done a horrible job on this henhouse.

          • westcoastpatriette

            Cavuto questioned if Perry was concerned about Sheriff Arpaio’s endorsement reminding Perry that the feds were going after Arpaio claiming Arpaio is violating the rights of illegals. Perry said absolutely not–said that the feds were going after Arpaio for political reasons. Then Perry added “I promise you if I become President I will not be going after any state like Alabama or Arizona for handling problems the way they see fit for their state” (a paraphrased quote–as I cannot remember verbatim). Cavuto acted surprised and Perry reminded him that every state is sovereign and has the right to compete with other states for job creators and other matters.

          • Scope

            I saw it as well, and I would say you are very close with your quote. Perry seemed very relaxed, and in charge of his own message. I want to see that very same Perry in tonight’s debate. He needs to not bite with the Wallace set-ups, and remain above the fray Wallace will try to create.

            Break a leg tonight Gov. Perry.

          • tyman

            Praying for the Gov. to have another great night!

          • izoneguy

            who were kneecapping Perry as soon as he jumped in and then they jumped on the Cain train and now are scattered among the candidates need to come home to Perry – the only real conservative with a chance.

            If not – it’s Romney or Gringrich – both of which do not share in the Palin/Cain view of Government.

          • Scope

            won’t get on the Perry bandwagon because they still see him as the reason Palin didn’t get into the race. I never believed that Palin had any intention of getting into the race, but that doesn’t matter to many of them.

          • acat

            plans to wait before endorsing.

            Mew

          • circlegranch

            that she can’t be wrong. She is waiting like alot of others such as Huck. When you’re a media star and pundit extraordinaire, you can’t make a bad guess. The value of your opinion declines rapidly and your job security becomes jeopardized.

            I would also not be surprised if Palin/Trump aren’t having some undisclosed conversations. That’s what happens when people tease and play the coy routine; conjecture runs rampant. As long as her name keeps coming up and people keep asking ‘when’, she’s a commodity for The Fabulous Mr. Fox.

          • tyman

            I think a lot of high up people are waiting for that moment.

            I’ve thought that about Rush. He was the one, after all, that said if Gov. Perry got in he would really shake things up. Well, it sure did. Anyone remember how boring it was before Perry got in?

            Not only that, but I think Willard’s fall was precipitated by Perry. In no way do I think Willard is inevitable.

          • izoneguy

            That should change some people’s view that Perry is soft on immigration.

            It is Obama and the feds who are soft on immigration and Sheriff’s like Arpaio and Governors like Perry who have to deal with the mess the feds are creating.

          • circlegranch

            and I agree, I hope Perry calls Obama out for it tonight at the debate.

            By the way, what’s the focus of the debate tonight? National security? Economy? Fox News bias?

          • axistogrind

            I am an Arizona resident, and I am a Perry supporter, but I will be honest and tell you I wasn’t thrilled that he highlighted the Arpaio endorsement. That was before I heard of these allegations. Arpaio has a lot of problems playing nice here, and the feds going after him on this issue of overlooking sex crimes might be legit; I don’t know, as it hasn’t washed out yet. Arpaio is a double edged sword because he has a positive image across the nation, I guess, but he’s not squeaky clean here, and I am not sure what that the optics will be if the socialists and Alinskyites are able to bring attention to it. I am kind of holding my breath that perry doesn’t catch any more bad luck than he already has.

          • Common_Cents

            Perry actively promoted Arpaio, a known birther and active birther.

            That’ll do wonders for the GOP chances. We will hear birther 24/7 and that Perry is a dumb Bush from TX who is a birther. Disaster not to be overcome.

            If Perry were to flub one national debate, we would be finished on the spot.

            Me, I’d rather take my chances on other baggage.

          • romansdaughter

            I hope I get to see that later. I’ll be praying for Rick Perry and that he has another excellent debate. One of you guys watch the debate for me.

          • Scope

            Anyone willing to do that?

          • westcoastpatriette

            ,,

          • avagreen

            At the time of the last debate I videoed the wrong program……and would have again tonight.
            Last week I could only find “Hannity” (ugh!) at the 8pm time slot and had it marked for recording, which in the past is how the debates have shown up….such as under “O’Reilly”.

            Not this time: Hannity has been moved to later time slot d/t the debate, which of course, was faithfully marked for recording.

            Changed it. Drat on Fox for being so willy-nilly with their scheduling.

  • http://www.RightFace.us dkolonia

    Perry is saying all the right things these days and I suspect he will make a comeback. If the comeback takes him to victory is another story. So many people got so disappointed in him that they may not be willing to give him another chance. I know two people that can’t stand to stay in the room when he is on a debate question because they fear he will flounder again and they can’t watch.

    • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

      I’d hold my breath otherwise and grip my laptop with white knuckles! But I never cringed, never needed to be afraid. The past few debates he has been calm and confident with nary a slip-up. Tell your friends, as one Perry supporter
      to another, that he’s hit his stride, and though he may not be the most eloquent man on that stage, at least he’s getting his point across and speaking from his heart. He’s on a roll!

      Three other things I need to say:

      1) Good morning everyone–may the Lord bless your days!
      2) Awesome diary, RealQuiet–good luck trying to hold back your excitement.

      And, uh, what’s that third one there…? Just kidding.

      3) HotAir is supposed to open their registration again today, so keep your eyes peeled and head on over there when they open the doors!

      • avagreen

        they are still saying they are closed.

        I saw your post yesterday, but so far…….:/

        I’ll check again. Have you tried?

        Dittos to your comments to realquiet!
        Amen! Amen! Amen!

        • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

          They were saying yesterday that they were going to open it again. I registered last week so I could combat the Perry haters and vote in their primary, but I haven’t gotten an email with the special code saying I could vote yet. Don’t know about those folks…they’re a little flighty, if you know what I mean :D

          • avagreen

            But I later got a “thank you” for voting!!??!!

            Who knows what’s going on. ?!?

        • sunshinek67

          Wish RedState had a poll.

          • avagreen

            Hot Air allows you to post comments on the site, provided that you first register to do so with a valid e-mail address. Comments registration is now closed.

            Do you have a link?

          • sunshinek67

            Ok, one option: email tips line. It’s what I did to expedite my password
            Email last week after waiting all day. Plus I sent a tweet to JShaw, and posted on Facebook. MrEd responded, said he was tackling an avalanche of emails :) , 14hour and still counting work day. But he hooked me up on the spot. Remember ‘persistence produces character’ :)

          • avagreen

            I’ll try it.

          • sunshinek67

            Still working on my first cup, hope you get it all resolved quickly. HA needs more Perry people :D

          • RealQuiet

            http://hotair.com/wp/wp-login.php?action=register

          • Scope

            last week, I registered, immediately got the email, and then went back over and reset my password to one I could remember, no problems, no waiting. I did see the next day they said they were still working on the password emails. Too funny, they said they had about two dozen people wanting to post as Hot Gas. LOL

          • sunshinek67

            Hope Ava gets in without incident. What about this poll they keep talking about? Wish RedState had a poll. Maybe there’s an abundant of Perryiers that would throw off the results ;)

          • romansdaughter

            Go to www.damndirtyrino.com and they have a Townhall/Hot Air poll going on. Go vote for our guy.

          • avagreen

            I’m gonna vote again in that poll.

          • avagreen

            Apparently (and this is highly suspect), one has to have registered by December 11 to be able to vote.

            The membership’s overall outlook is most likely well known to the people that put this poll up, and it’s probs not conservative.

            So, they allow one little window for new people to register and if you don’t register by then, you can’t vote.

            I’ve been trying for several days now, repeatedly, to vote. None of it has worked, not even getting a membership at HotAir.

            I’d say this poll is rigged. Unless someone has another idea.

          • westcoastpatriette

            and I am not even registered at HotAir.

          • sunshinek67

            ck in your spam box maybe, or again, send a tips message to Mr Ed, he’s fun lol….or tweet him :)

          • westcoastpatriette

            ///

          • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

            Yes, it IS an email from Jonathan Garthwaite, with a link that will take you directly to the voting page. Voted Rick Perry first, debated whether or not to vote for Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul for second, finally decided on Paul. But he (and everyone else) is SOOOOO inferior to Perry it’s not funny.

          • romansdaughter

            Is this the same voting poll as the one on damndirtyrino? As he has one there called Townhall/Hotair poll. I voted on that one.

          • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

            Yep, it’s the same poll. Glad you got a chance to vote! I had been freaking out, scared I wasn’t going to get an email with the link; then I checked RedState about fifteen minutes ago and saw y’all talking about getting emails from Jonathan Garthwaite. Sure enough, when I checked my inbox, there it was! Soooo relieved–wiping the sweat off my brow! Who’d you put in for 2nd place? (But if you don’t want to tell, that’s OK too :D )

          • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

            This poll is coming at exactly the right moment, just when Perry is surging again, when people are taking a second look. Praise the Lord it didn’t come, like, beginning of November or something.

          • romansdaughter

            I voted for Michele Bachmann for 2nd place. But I am like you, think Rick Perry is way ahead of the pack. I just want someone I can trust and I feel I can definitely trust him. You are from Louisiana a Red State guess where I am from?? I am from Washington state just am down here in Brazil working at a Mission school right now….Washington always goes to the Dems which is makes me go nuts. LOL Most of Washington is very conservative but Seattle, Tacoma area very liberal. Not nice! But just like Elijah in the Bible when he was praying for rain, I am praying for our nation and for Rick Perry.

          • avagreen

            I got one, too, several days ago and then “voted” but then was sent to a link saying that I had to “log in”. I wasn’t a member and couldn’t “log in”. **crazy**

            Then, I got an email thanking me for my vote.

            Then, I tried to join, but get sent on a continuous loop telling me my email address was already registered, but…..guess what………I don’t have a password so I can’t login.
            *sigh* I don’t know what to think at this point.

          • kestrel

            a good diary. :)

          • romansdaughter

            I am registered on Hotair and can make comments but can’t figure out how to reply to someone elses comments. Do you know how they do this?

          • avagreen

            I just happened to have saved this on my browser thingy.
            Copy your text and paste it into your box. Highlight it. Press the quote button. Quoting this way will automatically put both the starting and ending tags in for you.

            Haven’t tried it, but see if that works. ??

          • acat

            They’re just one after another, no conversational links at all.

            If you want to reply to someone, quote ‘em.

            (I’ve been registered over there for years, mostly gave up because the signal-to-noise ratio got so bad)

            Mew

          • avagreen

            Maybe, maybe we can move in en masse and make a difference?

          • romansdaughter

            Yep there is a lot of mudslinging but I saw some Perry supporters getting in there and actually making good arguments for Perry so just wanted to encourage them and also have another Perry supporter to see on Hot Air.

          • cheetah2

            however, I have gotten out of the habit of checking the news at Hot Air. I need to start making myself go there every day to post a good thing about Perry.

    • buster93

      This is it folks. A Conservative . I like him he has been a great Governor and he is a strong proven leader. I see many similarities with Ronald Reagan. I have said this before he is the REAL DEAL.
      I like him for his principles, leadership, and the ability to work with others and listen to them. He is not a flip flopper and he says it like is. He has leadership skills with the military and actually a pilot with the Air Force and 20,000 troops with Texas National Guard.
      I am not looking for the best debator I am actually looking for a leader who is tough, has been a Great Governor and can lead this country forward.
      I want a black Sharpie in my stocking for Christmas and Rick Perry as our voice of Hope for America !!!!
      God Bless America and may better times be ahead!!!

      • jrfromdallas

        He’s my governor and I would hate to lose him as governor BUT I would love to have him running the country. He would take a wrecking ball to DC and get American’s working again..

        • avagreen

          *worry* *worry* *worry*

          But, if it helps the nation……….

    • paco12348

      I think Perry’s first and second debate flubs helped in a strange way. Riding the top of the wave at the outset is a setup for defeat and Perry hit the bottom and bounced twice. He had no way to go but back up and he’s bouncing up. He’s no quitter. If he’ll get off attacking Romney and just tell where he wants to take the country he’ll do ok. America can’t live on oil alone, Obama has taken us too far down the Socialist path. Perry needs to expound on jobs for the future but also needs to tell us more about reversing the damage Obama had done to the country. I would like to see him advocate term limits for Congress, that would go a long way to cleaning out the “pad my pocket” mess. It might keep groups of Socialist from gaining control ever again. How about letting State legislatures select their Senator again? How about some stiff sentences for Oath Breakers and that includes Supreme Court Justices that lie and fail to disclose when in front of Congress?

  • wbf

    nt

  • sunshinek67

    NT

  • sunshinek67

    likening Romney-Bachmann as the last two conservatives in the race. Fox News, Hannity in particular, refusing to acknowledge Perry’s momentum, no mention of the Iowa Strike team.

    • avagreen

      Sunshine, I asked earlier about if you had a link to HotAir to show that they are open to registering for comments.

      So far, all I get is:
      Hot Air allows you to post comments on the site, provided that you first register to do so with a valid e-mail address. Comments registration is now closed.

      • 1bunny

        http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/14/comment-registration-is-now-open-7/

        says link is now fixed. If you registered last week but did not get an emailed link (even days later) to set your password then you might try to re-register. My link took 4 days to get to me because of their difficulty in processing so many registrations.

        We definitley need to sign up as many conservatives on Hot Gas as possible to counter the mods and libs :)

    • circlegranch

      next time they are hawking a new book or ticketed event. Hannity has lost so much credibility in this campaign. He is now very deliberate in making sure he does not even mention Perry’s name. Does he think nobody notices? He was downright rude to Rand Paul on the radio last week. He picks his own winners and losers and as long as his audiences fawn over his choices, he’s great. As soon as somebody calls him out for being biased and slanted, he gets defensive.

      As for Coulter, she looked very frustrated and somewhat beaten down last night on Hannity’s show. She’s been so flippant about how Romney is going to win big and nobody is as smart about conservative politics as she.

      Both are becoming increasingly irrelevant. Tonight o Greta, Rush gets his turn at bat to talk about the different campaigns so we’ll see where he hangs his hat when it comes to acknowledging Perry.

      • Spartan4Life

        Boy, what a lovefest they were having. Sean just can’t understand why all us country bumpkins won’t fall in line for Mittens.

        Fox News has become a joke. Between Beckel/Trump/Hannity/Christine O’Donnell/Herman Cain they are being beclowned.

      • texashistorian

        Perry was on Hannity’s radio show yesterday- third or fourth time this primary season by my count. How does translate into ignoring Perry? I grant you he doesn’t come up with Perry’s name first when talking about the GOP candidates but that is as much a function of the current media narrative on Perry (which infects conservatives as often as it does libs) as anything else, but I think you do Hannity a bit of a disservice here.

        • jrfromdallas

          when he goes over the candidates and he doesn’t ask Karl Rove or Dick Morris about Perry when he has both of them on his show. It is pathetic that he thinks we don’t realize what he’s doing. Perry is now 3rd in Iowa according to Real Clear Politics and he is gaining momentum. Every time he leaves out Perry’s name he mentions Santorum, Bachmann, and Paul who would all be a lousy choice. It is ridiculous.

        • sunshinek67

          There is intentional marginalization going on for Rick Perry in this election cycle by Fox. They think his (current) poll numbers justify their case to leave him out of the discussion, however, it’s being said that all candidates are included, except Perry, more often than not in prime-time discussion. That’s a healthy market to reach after office hours. Roger Ailes must be scared at the prospect of a Rick Perry nomination. Perry has a (welcomed) habit of saying what others are just thinking in this hypersensitive political correct world. His brutal honesty and record of success would be good for the country.

          The current “frontrunners” represent status quo to so many people. The Newt-bubble is superficial, given his track record it won’t be long before it pops, probably from his own forked tongue or perhaps like I’ve said before, some outing of previously buried treasures. I think the Newt parade balloon pictures floating around on the internal pretty much sums up my disillusionment for a potential nomination….Inflated, hyped for entertainment value, deflated and tucked away for another parade another day~

          • sunshinek67

            :D

          • texashistorian

            You might be right as far as the Fox show goes- I don’t watch Hannity’s TV show very often, but catch him on the radio 2-3 times a week and he is not really shy about Perry on the radio that I’ve noticed. Could be as you say an editorial policy at FoxNews?

      • jrfromdallas

        That he doesn’t mention Perry’s name and that drives me up a wall. I hope Sean doesn’t expect Perry to show up at another one of his Freedom Concerts with the way he’s been acting. Coulter has jumped the shark in my opinion by blindly following Christie’s endorsement. I can’t figure out how the people that tried to get Angle and O’Donnell elected as Senators because they believed they were Conservative won’t get behind Perry. He is the only one that has a TRUE conservative record and the skins on the wall to show how he would govern. Michael Medved is also very dismissive of Perry because he’s endorsed Romney and I have been contemplating calling into his show to rip him a new one. Mark Levin basically doesn’t talk about Perry anymore either instead he semi endorsed Bachmann or Santorum like they have a real shot to win or do a good job running the country. With what experience?? Why haven’t all of these Kingmakers endorsed the best Conservative candidate??? Who knows but I am getting fed up with ALL of them!!

        • JSobieski

          That is a very good question. O’Donnell herself even jumped on the Romney bandwagon.

          Perry is skeleton free family man with conservative record of real accomplishments.

          I thought the entire O’Donnell fiasco revealed something odd about conservative politics, and I still can’t figure out what it is. One thing I did learn was that as smart as Mark Levin is, I wouldn’t follow his lead on these kind of matters.

          My theory: A lot of people are more impressed by what people say than what they do.

          That anyone supports Bachmann is evidence of that.

          Almost all of the criticism of Newt is based on things he has said and not actual compromises of enacted legistation.

          Perry has a very conservative record, but said the “wrong” thing on an immigration-related topic and was burned by the public’s apparent failure to digest the meaning of the phrases “opt out” or “never enacted”.

          Public debate is becoming less and less informed, even as more information is available.

          The phrase “I don’t want to get too far int he weeds” is used frequently on cable news, particularly in the context of issues like budgets, spending cuts, and entitlement reform.

          Bottom line: the country is operating on a very shallow level of sound bites and labels. Perry is unfairly saddled with the term “amnesty” even though it is inaccurate. Newt supports a “variation” of a “mandate” that is comprised of being responsible for your bills, and he is forever linked to Obama and Obamare.

          Nobody in the media/public square really addresses the arguments of the other side, they just dismiss them. Obama is a big part of this problem—he never even admits that there are people who legitimately disagree with him.

          All of this just poisons and dumbs down our politics.

          I started watching old footage of past R primary debates. The level of information conveyed in those debates far exceeds what happens now. Candidates actually talked about numbers at a depth that would unprecedented now.

          We have dumbed ourselves down to a point where tjhis debate is no longer possible.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edchtf9MS7g

          I am not calling our candidates or their supporters dumb I am instead suggesting that the mode of political discourse has become dumbed down gradually over the years.

          • westcoastpatriette

            is the power wielded by the leftist media who do not want the issues looked at in depth because they don’t want things to change.

            I don’t think it is our side that is perpetuating the superficial glossing over nearly as much as the left. They always want us to sit down and shut up because they hate honesty and truth above all else.

          • WA_Cowboy

            the left knows that they have no case based on facts. So keep the facts closed up in the closet. Let’s make elections about who’s better looking or the more eloquent speaker, or even about who’s more likable. Anything but the truth, because truth = a win for conservativsm.

          • JSobieski

            Our side does it .

            Amnesty (instate tuition is amnesty? really?)
            Spending cuts (the “cut” in Cut Cap and Balance)
            Individual Mandate (doesn’t actually require buying insurance)

            We look for a code word or two, and full steam ahead.

            I specificaly remember Hannity praising CCB, and then the following week complaining that the Boehner compromise had “phony” cuts.

            Well guess what, if by phony you mean merely reductions in the rate of increase—CCB had phony cuts.

            Perry has a position on in-state tuition that has nothing to do with the forgiveness of illegal status, but people on our side call it “amnesty”.

            Newt is in favor of giving people one of the following options
            have insurance
            pay bond
            otherwise indicate a willingness to pay your healthcare bill

            and Newt is ripped for the “individual mandate”.

            The public debate in this country is remarkably shallow. I remember being very much impressed with the French presidential debate last time—a statement that is both surprising and painfull.

            We have become an unserious nation in many respects.

          • circlegranch

            and I thank God she didn’t endorse Perry. “Sabrina” is more of a problematic endorsement than a blessing, I’d think. Somebody (Huntsman?) in NH is either going to run an ad or do an interview linking the witch thing in a joking way to Romney. One would doubt he’s too thrilled to have her on board–she’s not quite as high brow as Ms Coulter–unless, he’s so nervous at the prospect of maybe losing NH that he contacted her to try and haul along some tea party votes for him. Maybe I’m more senile than usual, but I could swear she already came out a number of weeks ago saying she was supporting Romney, so this 2nd time at bat with Hannity last night was curious…….

          • acat

            I’ll recommend a movie.

            Mew

          • WA_Cowboy

            recommending a movie to illustrate a point about the “dumbing down” of voter intelligence.

            whether or not you intended to be ironic, good show :)

          • acat

            Cat was going for triple bonus points.

            1) A movie instead of a discussion of history.
            2) The specific movie and plot.
            3) The movie was frequently trotted out by the libs …

            Mew

          • WA_Cowboy

            I had never heard of that movie …or… just plain don’t remember it but looks kinda funny in a not-too-far-detached-from-reality kind of way.

          • buster93

            Do you think Romney is jumping up and down saying oh great I have Christine O’Donnels endorsement? 2010 had some real winners and some real losers and she was in the loser category.
            Rick Perry is the only true Conservative here that is a GAME CHANGER IN THE JOBS DEPARTMENT and yes he is a TEXAN!

            This is it Americans do your own homework, read a local newspaper in each Primary state and get to know the Presidential Canididates .
            Watch some local news in each state. Oh yeah a great one i think on Dec 12 in South Carolina with Rick Perry.
            RICK PERRY 2012 SECURING THE BORDER, JOBS CREATION, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE!!!
            ANOTHER HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT : LOOK UP FOUNDING FATHERS and WATCH THE PATRIOT starring Mel Gibson and HeathLedger

          • circlegranch

            is the the fine HBO series done a few years back, John Adams. And you’re so correct: if Americans don’t step outside of their own little realms and begin to educate themselves about our founding, what it meant then and what it sure as heck ought to mean now, we’ll lose it all. We have a matter of a few short months to mount up and head for the front lines. Nobody is going to do this for us. This is our calling; this is our time.

            This is a rather nice change of pace, discussing patriotic movies. Another classic is Jimmy Stewart in ‘Shenandoah’.

          • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

            Really good, highly recommended. Some historical/artistic license was definitely taken but it’s very good. Be sure you have a copy of the book as well.

          • WA_Cowboy

            for its portrayal of the declaration of independence and (obviously) the life of John Adams

          • WA_Cowboy

            although this is the first election I’ve closely followed and even contributed to. There’s evidence of what you said everywhere.

            Romney was recenrly 2nd in a poll of self-identified tea partiers in Ft. Lauderdale. Really? I would have thought the tea party would know better.
            Bachmann has been a great cheerleader and spokesman for conservative causes and an outspoken opponent of liberalism. But she hasn’t accomplished much outside of talk.

            All this in addition to what you noted above.

      • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

        need practice time 4 times a day, and at each practice time they need to say:

        “President Perry. President Perry. President Perry. President Perry.”

        We’ll forgive them if they stumble at first because practice makes perfect.

    • daemonocracy

      Fox News has made mentions of Perry inching up in the polls, but that is all it is at the moment, inching and not a trend.

      It is not a bad thing for Perry to be flying under the radar while Newt and Romney duke it out, the dark horse always has an advantage. Iowa is a caucus state, momentum relies more on local word of mouth than whatever trends the national or even state media is reporting on. So let the media focus on Newt’s surge and recent drop in the polls, let them focus on Ron Paul aiming for an upset and Romney’s shakey front runner status – this doesn’t hurt Perry as long he can stay on message, organize and shake as many hands as possible.

      • cheetah2

        Here is a great article written by a young man who will be joining Perry’s Iowa Strike Force in January.

        http://caledonia.patch.com/blog_posts/rave-the-reason-i-campaign-for-gov-perry

        • carolynr

          If there were ever a supporter of Rick Perry…it is me. I was all over the blogs yesterday. I hope that some insider Perry people read this. The man has proven he is Conservative, he has proven he has values. HE HAS TO TOUT JOBS…that is his big playing card. He has a solution for SS and he can elaborate on Medicare…however, for Iowa…there is only one subject…JOBS…JOBS…JOBS. His focus needs to be on his accomplishments contrasted with Obama’s. Let Gingrich and Romney destroy themselves.

          Don’t think I am right…look what I got in an e-mail today from the Gingrich camp.

          Interesting excerpt from Dr. Robert Genetski’s Monthly Economic and Financial Update, (December 6, 2011). His qualifications can be seen at http://bit.ly/o8bdA3.)

          Gingrich?s New Contract?Great News!

          Gingrich?s 21stt Century Contract with America
          represents a detailed framework of plans for
          transforming the US economy. If adopted,
          there would be a greater shift in US economic
          policies in the direction of classical principles
          than at any time in modern history.
          For starters, the Contract proposes to eliminate
          the tax on capital gains, reduce the individual
          tax rate to an optional maximum of 15%, lower
          the corporate tax rate to 12.5% and eliminate
          the death tax.

          In terms of regulations the Contract pledges to
          repeal Obamacare, Dodd-Frank and Sarbanes-
          Oxley, while replacing the EPA with an
          Environmental Solutions Agency.

          With respect to Social Security, Medicare and
          Medicaid, Newt?s Contract describes solutions
          that provide individuals with the freedom to
          choose market-oriented health and retirement
          plans designed to dramatically increase savings
          and wealth.

          In terms of the Fed, the Contract proposes to
          make price stability the sole objective of Fed
          policy.

          Gingrich?s Contract provides the basis for a
          resurgence of growth and prosperity. It is the
          precise formula needed for ushering in an
          extended period of rapid growth and prosperity.

          I urge everyone to read both the Contract?s
          legislative proposals and the discussion of
          entitlement reforms http://bit.ly/o8bdA3.

          If Gingrich were to be elected President and
          have the support of Congress, his program
          would ignite the most explosive rally
          imaginable, first in the stock market and then in
          the economy.

          First off, his tax cut is too severe…IMHO. But…Cheetah..do you see what I mean. The WSJ gave Perry’s tax plan an A+….He needs to get back on the economy…WE ALREADY KNOW HE HAS VALUES.

          What the American people have yet to figure out is that NEWT’S AND ROMNEY’S values are in question. Let them fight it out and let Perry get back into the ballgame.

        • irishgirl

          Nice. Thanks for pointing it out.

        • rickperryreport

          We should also link to the guy’s intro piece on his coming trip to Iowa to be on the Perry Strike Force: The Adventures of Mr. Ed and Little Punk: Welcome to My 1/4 acre. I’ll try to look him up!

          Perry had a great interview on CNN John King yesterday (links to video on Toutube. Can’t embed this one for copyright BS).

          Joe @ The Rick Perry Report

  • romansdaughter

    I believe Rick Perry is hitting his stride now and he said in one of his Iowa, I believe interviews, that he is being able to run again. So I think he is getting over his back surgery. I am praying and rooting for him, as I believe he has the American people’s best interest at heart. Go Rick Perry!

  • romansdaughter

    I love it! He is getting some awesome ads out.

    • romansdaughter

      Should say I love it. Rick Perry is coming out with some great ads.
      Hey Perry people go to www.damndirtyrino.com and vote for Rick Perry…it is Townhall/Hot Air poll.

    • WA_Cowboy

      NT

    • kestrel

      It is exactly what I’ve been looking for. It thrills me with hope for the future of our country. God bless America. Perry for president in 2012!

  • Scope

    released yesterday.

    Poll conducted Dec. 8-12

    Gingrich- 31
    Romney-22
    Paul- 8
    Perry- 7
    Bachmann- 6
    Santorum- 4
    Huntsman- 2
    No opinion- 19

    Poll conducted Dec. 1-5

    Gingrich-37
    Romney- 22
    Paul- 8
    Perry-7
    Bachmann- 6
    Santorum- 3
    Huntsman- 1
    No opinion- 14

    Gingrich dropped by 6 points in a week. Santorum picked up 1 point. Huntsman picked up 1 point. Everyone remained the same, except, and this is fascinating to me, no opinion (undeceided) gained 5 points. Can we say it is still very very fluid? In Iowa Gingrich is going down also, and not by a point or two, but by multiple points from poll to poll, and Romney isn’t picking up those points. More and more are becoming undecided. This whole thing is turning my last brown hair grey.

    • cheetah2

      He went up to the top right away, but people didn’t really know him. Then some things came out that dragged him down. Now he is reintroducing himself.

      I hope People love what they see as they get to know the real Rick Perry.

  • WA_Cowboy

    I hope and pray he is.

    Was given an early christmas present — a copy of Fed Up. Read the first three chapters in 3 days and this book has me believing even more that Rick Perry is the man for the job.

    And I’m wishing there was I way I could get everyone I know to read the book. it is THAT good.

    • romansdaughter

      That book is awesome and in my opinion is the right man for the job of being President. I pray that he will come through for us.

  • center77

    and I feel he is the Reagan in this race, and if he wins the nomonation, we will see the most excited base in a long time. I have no doubt his reform Washington message would get the party out in droves, and I think it will be hard for Obama to beat, even with him sounding smart in the debates, because Perry will be talking about real change, and that will be the difference, he can say Obama was all about Rhetorical change. Even Perrys early debates will feed that, he will just tell the country it is time to stop lookiong for flyin grhetoric, and start looking at success. That will be one powerful message for the general election.

    • cheetah2

      and he has a record of getting things accomplished. When he says he will do a thing, we can believe him. If he wins I have no doubt he will be our Reagan.

  • Scope

    on what Ryan calls his pandering on entitlement reform. In this most excellent article which takes Gingrich’s statements from the Coffee and Market’s interview he did with them, and slaps him hard with telling him that this is not the 1990′s. Ryan so correctly points out that leaders lead, and do the best thing for the country, not just sit back and wait for something to become popular before you move on it.

    I thought it was fascinating when Gingrich says something to the effect that presidents need to “make people think” that they are doing what they want, which implies to me that if he says something in a certain way, that people will think he is doing their bidding, while he is really doing whatever the dang well he wants, which is very typical Gingrich. This guy will never ever remain disciplined to the point where he successfully fools people into thinking he really really has changed because now he is 68 and a grandfather. It has been my experience that the older one gets, the more set in their ways they become, not the opposite which is what Newt wants you to believe.

    • Scope

      It just went pooof.

      • avagreen

        Is this all that you wrote?
        Leaky bucket Gingrich gets a slap down from Paul Ryan

      • avagreen

        Is this all that you wrote?
        Leaky bucket Gingrich gets a slap down from Paul Ryan

        (OK, will try changing this.)

        • Scope

          That was my title, but when I hit post, the post appreared on my page with no title. When I went elsewhere and came back here it was there. Thanks very much though. I should have posted again to clear that up.

          • avagreen

            Seems the server isn’t handling all of this.

  • texabama

    As I was listening to the news about emergency bills and the possibility of shutting down the government (don’t we do this about every 3 months) I got to thinking. Didn’t we have an almost equal drama right before Christmas with ObamaCare a couple of years ago? Instead of taking care of citizen concerns like unemployment and debt due to bailouts, we had a bill crammed down our throats we didn’t want and no one had read.

    This would be an opportune time for Rick Perry to remind voters (especially those in Iowa) that he has no ties to that mess…mandate or otherwise. He can also remind them that the part-time Congress in Texas manages to get its business done, pass a budget and even come out ahead. Oh, and even after doing all that—Texas still created better than 40% of the jobs nationally.

  • jrfromdallas

    Can you believe that? They said that while he’s done an exemplary job in Texas he has not energized the national stage….HAS ONE VOTE BEEN CAST?? This American Idol endorsement game is really making me sick. If you have a sitting governor doing a good job in this terrible economy and he’s a conservative isn’t that EXACTLY who you want to support? Rush said last night that his friends are hoping Santorum, Bachmann, or Perry can make a splash in Iowa. I hope that person is Perry…

    • tnguy

      I used to think I could support Bachman if she were nominated, but frankly, I think her behavior the last several months borders on irrational. I guess I could hold my nose and vote for her, Same with Santorum. He’s always been a guy that I’ve thought highly of, but then things like his attacking Rick Perry over foreign aid was borderline clownish. He’s tainted himself as far as I’m concerned, but again, I guess I could – with disgust – pull the lever for him as well.

      I’m really hoping Perry can make a comeback. He’s the only candidate I could feel good about casting a vote for. It’s too bad he started his campaign so poorly, handled the immigration issue so badly, and mucked up a couple of debates. If he hadn’t, the choice now would be Perry or Romney, not Gingrich or Romney.

      • texabama

        I have to believe a lot of the initial faltering was due to back surgery. We often have too much faith in our own abilities to handle pain and bad health. Having obviously already suffered from back pain in the past, he probably thought this time would be no different and he’d manage.

        Being originally from Texas (El Paso, at that), I simply never understood the “heartless” brouhaha and the perceived weakness on illegal immigration. It really is a different issue in Texas. I taught school in Texas and you treat all children the same. I had several ESL children in my homeroom once where not one was Hispanic, they were from Korea and various islands in the Pacific. So you really can’t stereotype. I also have to question what more people think the governor can do when the federal government won’t do its job and then the court system mandates that you have to provide health care and educate all the people in your state and if they are children, provide food and shelter as well.

    • carolynr

      First off…Kristol is a shill for Romney…always has been…always will be. Again…the oxymoron…the man calls himself a Conservative and yet he backs a left center moderate (I am being kind).

      Rush needs to get Perry out there in front. Notice who comes last on your list. Santorum cannot win. His emphasis is on social issues will not unite the country. Secondly, if people really think about it…his idea of $0 taxes for manufacturing is stupid…because people…that means we are subsidizing manufacturing and the unions. We are uncompetitive because of high salaries…both management AND ESPECIALLY UNION. Thirdly, he did not back a true Conservative…Cong. Toomey…He backed Benedict Arnold …Spector…and that says…Santorum…you are a “company man”. Do we know what “company men” do…they put the interests of the company ahead of their customers, i.e., the Republican Party ahead of the people.

      Bachmann. Obviously I am a woman. This person has driven me nuts to listen to her. Please tell me, besides the TP caucus what she has accomplished in GOVERNMENT. I know that her husband has gotten $$ from the federal government grants to change the “thinking” of homosexuals! This was on my dime. She also got grants from her home state, Minnesota for the studies. Add that to the fact that Ms. Bachmann’s home state of Minnesota had a bill introduced about Gardasil. Tired of her…I have X amount of children, I will abolish Obamacare, I am a tax attorney. OK…we have your resume lady…where are your results?????Waiting…waiting…waiting. When she gets the call at 3:00 a.m. will she send our “youth” into battle? Don’t forget…at 18 (if you remember your thinking at that age)…you were INNOCENT ALSO.

    • irishgirl

      Hoping that Perry proves them wrong.

  • texashistorian

    in Iowa over by Erin McPike over at Real Clear Politics. For a shock she only as I recall mentioned his “faltering Campaign” once and that in the context that it seemed to be turning around in Iowa

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/12/15/perry_pleads_for_second_chance_in_iowa_112415.html

  • sunshinek67

    Neil gave him an “Aggie” out and Morris reiterated. Well, my coming from a Mensa biological background, yes it does skip generations for some reason, I have to say that I’m proud to be associated with “dumb” by the famous Dick Morris.

    Shot him a more than likely Tweet, requesting his IQ score and 10yrs executive experience presiding over (my usual talking points) world’s 13th economy, 2nd most US populous state, Commander in Chief over 20,000 Texas National Guard troops, professional AND personal life intact. Yes it was hard in 140
    characters but I condensed nicely.

    By the way, there are different levels of Intelligence, according to psychologists and behaviorists, of which I claim career apprenticeship. Take a smart guy that probably has IQ numbers off of the charts, but cannot seem to be smart enough to calculate risks and punishment effectively, avoid scandals. Huh~

    • jrfromdallas

      about getting caught in that toe sucking scandal that got him fired from the Clinton WH.

    • romansdaughter

      Goodnight, Albert Einstein was brilliant and a high IQ but he would not have made a good President of the US. And he could barely spell or write correctly. Yes, it ticks me off as Dick Morris has no idea what Rick Perrys IQ is and I think Rick Perry has accomplished a lot more than Dick Morris ever has. Okay take a deep breath and calm down. Sorry my rage cut loose for a minute. LOL.

      • Scope

        Would you prefer book smart, and common sense dumb, or, common sense smart, but book dumb? I’ll take common sense every day of the week.

        • romansdaughter

          nt

        • Common_Cents

          :)

        • sunshinek67

          as the old saying goes. Anyone find it amusing that Gingrich was at the University of Iowa, I think yesterday it was, talking to the crowd about brain science, and actually bragging “I think I’m the first Presidential candidate to be talking to you about this”

          There should be some $$ for someone to publish a book of Newtisms, this guy has those soundbites down to an exact science all on their own!

          Didn’t mean to get you riled romans ;)

    • Scope

      from his beloved Bill, he has never been known to predict any race correctly yet. So for him to indicate that Perry is dumb and can’t win, I’d say Perry is in pretty good shape.

      • sunshinek67

        Morris is one of those that whatever he is saying, think the opposite.

    • sunshinek67

      probably ignored more than likely :D . You know I’m going to have to recheck that scandal you mentioned, gosh that sure is a long time to still be embittered.

      Still reeling fm his OReilly declaration that the election will be won based on what he, OReilly & Fox News Report…..We Report & We Decide. Ha whatever.

    • circlegranch

      Back in the day, Obama said the Iraq war was ‘dumb’. Morris, always the consumate gentleman and taker of the high road, is now going to start name calling? So out of character for him! Perhaps we should bet $10000 that Hannity puts him on his radio show today, as well, so the overstuffed, sweaty little man can repeat his insult before a slightly larger audience. Obviously, he’s like the rest of the media bombastors—Perry still makes him nervous.

      *Yes, I think its time to reinvigorate the term ‘zany’! If its good enough for Mitt, why not us? Use of the word is, thus far, the most normal, human thing I’ve heard from him this go-around.

      This evening’s skirmish (debate) should be entertaining. Note to Gingrich camp: If Mitt brings up the Tiffany’s line of credit, be sure to ask him about the imported riding horses costing 6 figures each that he purchases for his wife. While Calista may have an eye for things that shine, Ann apparently has her own line of expensive credit with foreign equine breeders. If Mitt wants to pick on the wives of his competitors, surely his is not off limits either.

      • romansdaughter

        I think that is horrible taste to bring a spouse into the debate unless she was Moochele. LOL Do you know something we don’t know,,,heh heh How come you think Mitt would do that? Just curious.

        • circlegranch

          He’s already put it out there and yes, I agree, its horrible to be so low as to attack another guy’s personal expenses regarding his wife, but if Mitt thinks its a winner for him to pick on Newt about buying his wife expensive jewelry, then Mitt’s expensive horses for his wife should be fair game too. Why should Newt stand there and get slammed for buying his wife something that is nobody’s business? Cheap shot by Romney, “in my view”, as Mitt would say.

          • romansdaughter

            Is it anyone’s business what someone buys their wife? No I would think that would back fire big time. That seems really “zany”. LOL

    • cheetah2

      Perry is plenty smart enough to fix what’s wrong with this country. There are different ways of being smart, and we have proof that his smarts are the right kind.

      • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

        also ran that same state was called dumb.

        Bush’s problems of course were not because he was dumb, but because he just was not a real conservative.(and never fought back)

  • retire05

    what Dick Morris has to say. Talk about the epitome of a political opportunist, that labels gets smacked right on Morris’ forehead. He was a loyal Democrat, until it became politically, and financially, expedient to become a “conservative.”

    Morris also predicted that Hillary would run away with the Democrat nomination in 2008. He was wrong then, and basically, with almost all of what he says, he is still wrong.

    I have no use for Morris and do not understand why Fox gives him even the smallest venue.

    Rick Perry is not dumb. By a long shot. But Americans have been told for the last 100 years (since the days of Woodrow Wilson) that only the academic elite are qualifed to tell us how to live, how to govern, how to run a nation. Just look at how well the nation is doing with all the academic elites in the current administration. Yet, not one of them could look at the sky and be able to tell if it will rain in the next few days, or judge how severe a winter will be by the furring up of cattle, or any of the millions of other things that the academic elite are “dumb” about.

    My grandfather was not an educated man, but he could tell you how much corn seed it would take for any one of his fields, right down to the the ounce. He knew when it was going to rain, if winter would be severe, or mild, how to make his money stretch because there were no guanantees about next years crop. It is called “common” sense, and yet, we seem to dismiss it in lieu of a piece of paper from a tony university. I will take that “common” sense over a degee in Nigerian Women’s Basket Weaving anyday.

    • tyman

      Retire, I agree wholeheartedly with you about the common sense, and I feel like Perry has it in spades.

      If I were stuck in the middle of nowhere, and had to choose one of the candidates and could only use our resourcefulness to make it back to civilization, I’d pick Rick Perry in a heartbeat without giving it a second thought.

      As for the definition of dumb, it would be a picture of Dick Morris getting his toes sucked by a prostitute, all the while throwing a great career out the window. How he ever wound up on Fox is beyond me.

      I listened to Boortz off and on today, and when I heard that irritating, gravelly voice of Morris I quickly hit the off button and it didn’t go back on.

      I’ve always wondered if radio stations keep tabs of what is said when their internet traffic goes down. I hope it was noticed when Morris was on.

      • sunshinek67

        Oh THAT scandal! Wish I would have hit the off button. Maybe Morris’ poster boy for political exile participation on Fox is Roger Ailes way of moving Fox more to center, or some are saying left of center. What a goober~

      • retire05

        Once upon a time, it was the farmer, the rancher, the small hardware store owner, the lady who ran the bakery, our ministers, priests and rabbis, our school teachers, auto mechanic and small banker who understood that hard work was an asset when lending money to a farmer for seed, that were the epitome of the American people. Norman Rockwell didn’t paint politians and Wall Street types. He painted the “every” American and his paintings have endured through the decades.

        Now we worship the academic who thinks because they were capable of memorizing the information contained in some book, written by another academic. Not the guy who busts his butt everyday at a job that makes this nation function.

        How far we have come. Yet, the more things change, the more they stay the same. It is still the people of Bedford Falls that makes this nation great. And once again, we are being told that a candidate is “dumb”, a “cowboy”, a rube. When did “cowboy” become a perjorative? John Wayne is still the most revered actor to ever come down the pike. Why? Because he played a cowboy and espoused cowboy virtues.

        If Rick Perry is a dumb cowboy, perhaps this nation would be a lot better off if we had more dumb cowboys with cowboy morals. I will take that cowboy to the academic anyday. I know with a cowboy if I need help I will get it. With the academic, I will get a lecture.

        It is time we go back to giving respect to the “common” man, the guy who never asks for anything but the ability to use his own resources to support his family, who pays his taxes and doesn’t complain about how little the government does for him, who coaches his kid’s Little League team, or the troop mom who helps organize the Pine Wood Derby. These are the people who are the heart and soul of America.

        • circlegranch

          I’ll take ‘dumb’ any day of the week because after years of ‘smart’ running Washington, our schools, some churches sad to say, the courts and the media, we’ve never been so broke. We’ve never been so morally corrupt. We’ve never been so lacking in character. We’ve never graduated so many kids from high schools that can’t read. We’ve never been so discredited around the world.

          Rick Perry has the same dumb factor that Tim Tebow has and I’ll stand with either of them till the end.

          Glad to see you back here, retire05. Hope all’s well.

          • sunshinek67

            notext

    • sunshinek67

      Some “intellectuals” would have to purchase some sort of “sophisticated” overpriced tool, made in China, to try and produce the way your grandfather did. Awesome story, reminds me of my own dad & fatherlaw when he was still alive (miss him!)

      • tyman

        I really think that Common Sense is becoming uncommon.

        The folks that lived through the depression really got tested and pushed their ingenuity and resourcefulness to the limits.

        Sadly, I feel that is going the way of the dodo.

        I’d love to hear Perry say something about plain old, ordinary, every day common sense (I think I got that right from Jimmy Stewart’s character in “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington”) vs. the educated derelicts. Ooh. Didn’t Calvin Coolidge say something about them regarding “Persistence”?

  • Scope

    and can win the upset in Iowa if he keeps these gains going. I think undecided is the dark horse in this campaign. Let’s see if he can make it across the finish line.

    • texashistorian

      because it is dumb, and lacks polished debate skills, and might, just might, have been heard speaking with southern accent once.

  • carolynr

    Oh…let’s all get together and gang up on Perry. Hey…maybe because he is being attacked…there might be some inside polling we don’t know about. However…let me continue with”dumb”.

    Boortz defended Herman Cain. I live in GA. I listen to Boortz and I have also listened to Cain previous to his entrance into the race. I also know the economics of this state.

    Now…this is what dumb is. When you endorse someone for the president and find out that he has a secret checking account wherein he is “helping” some defenseless waif with her money problems. Did you take it back….still waiting Neil. Did you? It’s a he said, she said thing…but he did have to admit THE MONEY PART. Even dumber was the fact that he failed to tell his wife about it. then we had all these women coming forth at the same time. What is it about Boortz and Cain and Morris…where’s the angst against Perry. Perry didn’t own the land where the rock was…and his father painted it over. Still…IT WAS DUMB TO BLAME Perry without proof. Then…Cain got DUMB again and said that Perry was behind all these women. Tsk…Tsk…I bet that Ricky made you help that poor little woman you knew for 13 years also. Then there is the foreign affairs experience….Palistinians right of return…Now we find out they are an “invented people”. Not really…a bunch of rag tag group of Arabs that nobody wanted in their country. But…we have Cain on record for that. Then the premier of all stupidity…999. Recession…well, we’ll do a little “Fed” dipsy doodle…we’ll tell these people that it is a jobs plan and a tax plan and all they need to know is 999. Yup…meanwhile, GA has a food tax, a sales tax and a state income tax…do ya think they want another tax…this is Cain’s home state!!! Of course he was going to reduce the tax on products to make it less expensive by micro-managing the tax from raw product to shelf product. WOW…how many committees would we need to watch that with how many companies.

    The above is what is stupid. And…what network picked him up as an “analyst”….THE WISE AND WONDERFUL, FAMILY VALUES STATION…FOX. Hey…maybe next season we’ll have Madonna so it will be gender neutral…oh that’s right…at one time…she didn’t know what gender she was.

    Now…what was Boortz or Morris (another analyst on Fox) saying about STUPID?

    • avagreen

      I just got called two evenings ago in yet another poll concerning who I watch for news.

      I honestly said it was NBC. This is about the 4th time I’ve been contacted for this type polling. I have no idea of how many people my one vote is speaking for ratio:wise. But, it (sadly) makes me feel good to NOT be voting for FOX as I used to be a 24/7 fan.

      • tyman

        For years Boortz said he wished that a candidate would talk about freedom, etc. Well, Rick Perry’s saying all of that and where’s Boortz?

        One thing that I think is Boortz’s problem is the fact that Perry is an outspoken Christian. Boortz can’t stand that and the abortion issue.

        Hey, Boortz, McCain tried to ignore the Christian base last time and lookie what happened.

        If we get Romney or Newt, I don’t think they’ll fire up the evangelical base (yes, I keep saying this over and over). They may win because of Obama, but I don’t think it’s a guarantee.

        I’d much rather take my chances with Perry than the supposed front runners.

        The Christian base is what propelled Bush to two terms, and I don’t think we need to discount that.

        Other than that, I just can’t figure out Boortz’s problem with Perry.

        And Fox is just another problem entirely. They’re supporting the establishment and the candidates that have worked there. It’s as simple as that.

  • retire05

    You see, I don’t need a politician to pass a law to tell me how to budget my money. I understand that I need more coming in than going out, and when I have less coming in, I trim any and all fat. Common sense.

    I don’t need an academic to tell me how to educate my children. I understand that they need to know how to read, and develop a love of reading, they need to be able to do simple math that will allow them to manage their paychecks, they need to learn the history of this nation, and about the people who made it great from the African Americans who fought in the Revolutionary War (the forgotten heroes of this nation), to the ones who braved nature to cross the Rockies, to those who developed Spindle Top. Common sense.

    I don’t need the educated to look down on me when I can climb a telephone pole using nothing but my hands and a pair of hooks attached to my boots that keep their phones working when all they know about phones is how to hit speed dial. Common sense.

    My admiration goes to those cotton farmers of Paint Creek, Texas who eek out a living from a land that is not always friendly. To the lady at the local cafe who seems to find time to take meals to those seniors who are home-bound. To the banker in my small town who lends me money in emergencies without selling my note to a big New York bank and who understands that I am good for it because he knows me. To the veterans, who ask for nothing but respect for answering the need. To the non-union teachers of my children who talk to be in the grocery store and tell me how they gave my kid their extra time so he could make the honor roll. Common sense.

    While I have no disrespect for those who go on to college and wind up in a corner office with a view, they will never replace the guy who goes out in the dead of winter to repair the power lines when ice brings them down, or fix your car or carries your groceries out to the car for you because that is what we do, in Bedford Falls.

    We, Americans, all, need to change the compass of this nation. We need to understand that the “common” man that FDR spoke of was not the destitute, unemployed standing in a soup line. The Common Man was the guy who worked and paid his taxes without asking for anything but his Constitutional rights.

    How many of us know anyone who could have crossed the Rockies in a covered wagon and survived? That is the people we need to become again, and no politician can make this nation great, but the people can. We did it once, and for Americans, nothing is impossible.

    It is these people that I speak of that will be drawn to Rick Perry.

    • gracie

      Always interesting, full of wisdom and this one, just inspirational.
      Common sense. One of my favorite, simple concepts.
      Thanks for the time you take to write.

      • Scope

        retire’s posts are always a good read. Love them.

  • WA_Cowboy

    the two hit pieces on Perry on yahoo news?

    one… the DOJ (or some other agency) has released a list of civil rights complaints against Sherrif Joe. Didn’t need to read the article because anyone with a brain knows this is released now b/c Perry is making a comeback.

    But the second was even “better”. It was all about how the Rickster is high on style and low on substance and that Rick Santorum is much better. They said Perry is “made for TV” but later said he was bad in interviews and debates, etc. The article had so many self-contradictions that it was a joke. and anyone who claims that the Perry has no substance has never read “Fed Up”.

    Ahh, but the appearance of both of these articles speaks to Perry’s resurgence. They now see him as a threat, so along come the hit pieces to encourage people not to vote for him.. But the more the left tries to hit, the stronger he gets.

    Rick Perry 2012!

  • Scope

    Honestly, really, that is is what he telling Neil Cavuto right now. Yup, Sec. of Defense. He might should check a map to find Libya, just sayin’.

    • gracie

      You and I are in the same groove today Scope.
      I would not trust Herman Cain with any post much less defense! That man is a joke. Notice he is holding back on his oh so important endorsement…to see who is getting the nomination.

      PLEASE Lord, no one pick Herman Cain for their cabinet!

      • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

        nt

  • Scope

    just said that Perry’s campaign is low on cash. How does he know that? He doesn’t. It’s a way to try to depress the Perry supporters, period. A week or so ago on Fox, they showed a list of a recent campaign funding cash in CA, and Perry was listed as the number two fundraiser there. Perry was recently in CA.

    • tyman

      Beckle is so mean spirited and has a foul mouth, to boot.

      I’m not worried about Perry’s campaign cash. Besides, if he does as well as think he’ll do in Iowa, it will rejuvenate his campaign.

      I’m expecting Perry to do well in SC, too!

    • cheetah2

      He couldn’t say that if he didn’t have the funds.

      http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/12/rick-perry-vows-to-remain-in-the-race-through-florida/

      • retire05

        the super PAC that is called “Make America Great Again” PAC is backing Rick Perry with a tony $55 million as of last month that it intends to spend to get Perry elected.

        That is over an above Perry’s own campaign funds. I once heard Brit Hume say that between Perry’s campaign and the super PACs backing Perry, he has much more money than even Mitt Romney.

        • tricianc

          ?Make America Great Again? PAC is playing an awesome radio ad here in NC. It’s been on during evening rush hour and I heard it today during a Rush Limbaugh break. I don’t know if it’s nation-wide or just hearing it in the NC market because SC bleeds into ours.

          It hits everything: Perry’s Texas record, his 3 plans for America, quotes about his plans, Washington Outsider and Values.

          Seriously, I’ve never heard a better ad.

        • Scope

          a week or so ago that showed numbers of fundraising from a recent CA fundraising swing. Perry had collected the second highest dollar amount from that fundraising swing. I just love those that are saying that Perry is running out of money, with no facts to back that up at all, just to try to dissuade the Perry supporters, or those that may be taking a second look at him. The fear of a Perry presidency, by those that have a reason to fear him, is pallpable. Why bother attacking him if he is such a loser candidate? Huh.

  • pookieamos

    Ever since I saw him in Carolina on the stage , I have been very passionate , I immediately donated and ordered my bumpersticker . I am very disappointed he is not doing better . Just today there was a news report from the hospital where he has his recent back surgery .He was heavily medicated in the first debates , could this be why he has not been stonger ? I thought he was great in the last debate , he sounds much more like the man I first heard . He stands strong for 10 th Amendment rights , he believes in Federalism , that makes him far superior to Romney or Gingrich ! Go Rick go !

    • romansdaughter

      If you are Welcome to RedState! I believe Rick Perry finally divulged that he had been struggling a little after his recent back surgery . I think Rick Perry is one of those guys that doesn’t like to whine about things and just takes it on the chin and goes on. But yep, he said he was actually being able to run again and was feeling better. His last two debates were pretty good especially the last one. Hopefully he will do good tonight. Yep, he is the one I am voting for as I feel like I can honestly trust him and most of the other leading candidates I don’t trust.

      • texashistorian

        Interesting how folks are just now catching on to that- it’s been known here since before he even announced that he had some real problems with his back. From first debate I knew that had to be one of the issues. I’ve seen him in various venues over the years here in Texas, and he’s never looked that stiff and robotic before (don’t get me wrong, in debate formats he’s never been loose and fluid appearing). He looked uncomfortable, and I think it explains why he would get progressively worse as the nights wore on. I walked away from those first couple debates wondering where the governor that I know and have supported for the past ten years vanished to.

        • tricianc

          He was also so “stiff” as you say because he had to wear a full back brace.
          There is no way you can look relaxed with one of those I know. It had to have been especially uncomfortable in the sit down debate. You can’t sit right no matter how you try. A back brace digs in too not to mention you are using muscles you aren’t used to using and being in an awkward position tires you out. It hurts.

          And to have had a fusion is…wow! Had to be in quite a lot of pain. Pain medication kicks you too.

  • pookieamos

    Ever since I saw him in Carolina on the stage , I have been very passionate , I immediately donated and ordered my bumpersticker . I am very disappointed he is not doing better . Just today there was a news report from the hospital where he has his recent back surgery .He was heavily medicated in the first debates , could this be why he has not been stonger ? I thought he was great in the last debate , he sounds much more like the man I first heard . He stands strong for 10 th Amendment rights , he believes in Federalism , that makes him far superior to Romney or Gingrich ! Go Rick go !

  • seanl

    If you support him then a progressive like Romney will surely get nominated.

    • gekster

      How will supporting Perry get Romney elected.
      And is that the primary or general you are talking about.

      • seanl

        Perry no chance. You are getting all excited over 10 points… that is nothing.

        • gekster

          Reading things not there.

          Take the question at face value.
          How will supporting Perry get Romney elected.

    • acat

      Seems to me that encouraging people to support your guy – Newt, I presume? – would be more effective than suggesting those who disagree with you are wasting their time….

      The insult, y’see, does not help your case.

      Mew

      • seanl

        If Romney wins I’ll be sick to my stomach.

        I mean no offense, but there is no chance for Perry to win the nomination. And to be perfectly honest if I had my druthers I would want Perry to win the nomination as well. But he has made one too many missteps. And it is clear – even in the polls that is posted in this diary – that he has zero to no chance of winning.

        At least with Newt despite all his failings he has gotten things done for conservatives. I can’t think of one significant thing Romney has ever done for conservatives.

        • acat

          First, there’s a heck of a long break between Florida in January and Super Tuesday in March. The Bachmann Campaign rose and fell in a smaller window. The Perry Campaign’s first rise and fall was in a smaller window. Cain .. well…

          Second, Perry’s a better fit with the southern state voters who will make up the bulk of the primaries up to and including Super Tuesday.

          (hint – Texas is the 2nd largest pool of electors, only Cali is larger, and they’re very, very late …)

          Mew

    • center77

      Not supporting Rick Perry nominate a progressive because if you are saying Romney is a progressive then I am saying newt is one too, and Newt has a long history of evidence. I loved how so many conservatives used to love Beck so much, but the one time he comes out and says hey, conservative what are you doing, Gingrich is a complete big governmetn guy who is just speaking the right way right now everyone gets all crazy.

      When Perry had his bad debates, people defended him by saying debates should not matter, but they did not for the most part deny he had a bad debate.

      Now when the evidence against Newts big governmet past comes out his supporters argue it never happened, well thats like saying ROmneys flip flops never happen, the facts are just stubborn things. Now I think it would be better to argue Newt has learned from his mistakes, but even then Romney has a case that conservatives should trust him.

      I do not trust either of them, and it goes well beyond just changing a few positions, it is about when they changed. It always happend when it benifits them the most. That shows a person not learning from his or her mistakes, it shows a person who wants to change themselves to advance their cause. What do you think a person like that is going to do once in office and the media goes after them hard for trying to reform Washington.

      Huffingtona nd Newt had a great relationship at one time, but she turned out to be a complete progressive, Newt went back and forth depending on what the political winds were doing. That is the reason if either of these two people are the nominee, we will see a progressive in the white house, it will be about how big of a progressive we have in the white house. A person wrote that Newt is about doing what is possible, that is not what we need, we do not know what is possible until we try, we need reform, real reform. I am not afraid to reach for that.

  • Scope

    that have no intention in supporting our candidates at all whatsoever? Hot Gas is especially guilty of this. Why would any Republican/conservative site drive traffic to those that have no other intention than destroying our candidates? I am mystified at the stupidity of those sites that call themselves Republicans or conservatives. It’s the leftist game, multiply the message, and then the right sites run out and do their bidding. This is crazy. They should be ignored.

    • center77

      going to other sites to vote in polls. Those same people will not care if that site later bashes the candidates, in fact my guess is they will sit and argue with the liberals who go to the site. Thats what I do.

    • superpatriot

      That no matter how many endorsements Romney gets, he stays at his same polling numbers.

      I mean, Pawlenty, Christie, O’Donnell have all endorsed him and he has not budged an inch.

      I think if Romney does not do well in Iowa, South Carolina, and Florida, he will drop out.

  • center77

    he did not need the 1.6 million that Freddie MAC paid him I really got the feeling some people seen that as q finger in the eye I’m way to wealthy for that kind of money to mean anything. While working at my church, I heard 3 people bring it up. I’m did not think of it when he said it, but I suspect it did him no favors.

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