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	<title>Comments on: The unions tried to keep a lid on Scott Walker from revealing what unions really are and now hopefully the nation may figure it out as well</title>
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		<title>By: commonsenseobserver</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3314</link>
		<dc:creator>commonsenseobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we manage to pass National Right to Work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we manage to pass National Right to Work.</p>
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		<title>By: APA Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>APA Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then Scott may have to &quot;bend&quot; to the will of the people...and I hope he will in this instance :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then Scott may have to &#8220;bend&#8221; to the will of the people&#8230;and I hope he will in this instance <img src='http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rick57</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3312</link>
		<dc:creator>rick57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An American Judge has got to look at this entire public union debacle and say to him/herself that &quot;You know this whole union caampaign contribution thing is a money laundring set up. Unions don&#039;t support politicians they buy them during an election cycle and then time their contract negotiations to coincide with those cycles. The unions then basically walk into a contract negotiation with the very politician they helped elect, and can, and have demanded the rights to rape their fellow citizens of wealth. Gov&#039;ts do not make profits and therefore have nothing to share with their workers, and that is what makes a public union a bigger leech than welfare payments. At least with welfare payees there comes a point when they too become self sufficeint and no longer take from taxpayers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An American Judge has got to look at this entire public union debacle and say to him/herself that &#8220;You know this whole union caampaign contribution thing is a money laundring set up. Unions don&#8217;t support politicians they buy them during an election cycle and then time their contract negotiations to coincide with those cycles. The unions then basically walk into a contract negotiation with the very politician they helped elect, and can, and have demanded the rights to rape their fellow citizens of wealth. Gov&#8217;ts do not make profits and therefore have nothing to share with their workers, and that is what makes a public union a bigger leech than welfare payments. At least with welfare payees there comes a point when they too become self sufficeint and no longer take from taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: rick57</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3311</link>
		<dc:creator>rick57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unions have always been a cancer on American business. I have heard all the horror stories about why unions were needed. Being from MI everyone of us here have, but I find those stories hard to believe. It&#039;s always been about greed and power for the union and it&#039;s leadership. Where else could someone that was elected to represent you in a negotiation, advise you that a strike lasting 4-6 weeks in which your compensation is $100.00 per week is worth a 5 cents an hour pay raise. That math never made sense to me, lose 4-6 weeks pay for an extra five cents. Oh and the fact that you and all your fellow employees pay the same guy 2-4 hours of your wages for the priviledge of losing six weeks pay for a lousy nickel raise. When do you ever make up the lost wages?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unions have always been a cancer on American business. I have heard all the horror stories about why unions were needed. Being from MI everyone of us here have, but I find those stories hard to believe. It&#8217;s always been about greed and power for the union and it&#8217;s leadership. Where else could someone that was elected to represent you in a negotiation, advise you that a strike lasting 4-6 weeks in which your compensation is $100.00 per week is worth a 5 cents an hour pay raise. That math never made sense to me, lose 4-6 weeks pay for an extra five cents. Oh and the fact that you and all your fellow employees pay the same guy 2-4 hours of your wages for the priviledge of losing six weeks pay for a lousy nickel raise. When do you ever make up the lost wages?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3310</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 05:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By essentially granting &#039;Right to Work&#039; status to public sector employees, Walker has presided over a 25-50% drop in public-sector union membership in WI.

Collective Bargaining &#039;rights&#039; is the union battle-cry, but it&#039;s really mandatory dues collection (and thus mandatory membership) that they want back...

Walker isn&#039;t going to seek RTW for private-sector unions (He&#039;s following FDR&#039;s principle of &#039;private unionisim OK, public unionisim BAD&#039;)... 

But what he has done, is cut the most pernicious &amp; destructive variant off at the knees...

If you&#039;re wondering where the inspiration came from... Walker was elected Milwaukee County Executive via a recall election, due to a pension scandal similar to what Illinois is going through now.... His biggest &#039;problem&#039; in getting the County back on track, were the various public unions that fought every single budget cut as if it were a personal affront...

So when he became Governor (something WI Republicans had in mind since he won the County Exec job), and his primary mission was balancing the budget... Walker knew he had to take on the unions to get anywhere....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By essentially granting &#8216;Right to Work&#8217; status to public sector employees, Walker has presided over a 25-50% drop in public-sector union membership in WI.</p>
<p>Collective Bargaining &#8216;rights&#8217; is the union battle-cry, but it&#8217;s really mandatory dues collection (and thus mandatory membership) that they want back&#8230;</p>
<p>Walker isn&#8217;t going to seek RTW for private-sector unions (He&#8217;s following FDR&#8217;s principle of &#8216;private unionisim OK, public unionisim BAD&#8217;)&#8230; </p>
<p>But what he has done, is cut the most pernicious &amp; destructive variant off at the knees&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re wondering where the inspiration came from&#8230; Walker was elected Milwaukee County Executive via a recall election, due to a pension scandal similar to what Illinois is going through now&#8230;. His biggest &#8216;problem&#8217; in getting the County back on track, were the various public unions that fought every single budget cut as if it were a personal affront&#8230;</p>
<p>So when he became Governor (something WI Republicans had in mind since he won the County Exec job), and his primary mission was balancing the budget&#8230; Walker knew he had to take on the unions to get anywhere&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RealQuiet</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3309</link>
		<dc:creator>RealQuiet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t aware that Walker had publicly declared not to see right to work and that&#039;s unfortunate.  And you&#039;re right. that is quite an accomplishment for a GOP governor in a state like Wisconsin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that Walker had publicly declared not to see right to work and that&#8217;s unfortunate.  And you&#8217;re right. that is quite an accomplishment for a GOP governor in a state like Wisconsin.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3308</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And unless there&#039;s a resounding public demand for it in light of the recall, I don&#039;t see him changing that position.

The point of going after PUBLIC SECTOR unionisim, is that whereas private-sector unions are bargaining against a private firm with limited resources... Public unions bargain against the government, which has a nasty tendancy to just run up it&#039;s debt since it has the legal power to compel higher revenue - which a private firm does not...

So Walker is likely done with fighting against unions... Especially since he achieved his desired result (balancing the state budget)....

That said, he&#039;s done ALOT in the time he&#039;s had so far - one has to wonder what the rest of his term will include

Walker Accomplishments:
++++++++++++++++++++
Public Union Law
Concealed Carry
Castle Law
Voter ID]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And unless there&#8217;s a resounding public demand for it in light of the recall, I don&#8217;t see him changing that position.</p>
<p>The point of going after PUBLIC SECTOR unionisim, is that whereas private-sector unions are bargaining against a private firm with limited resources&#8230; Public unions bargain against the government, which has a nasty tendancy to just run up it&#8217;s debt since it has the legal power to compel higher revenue &#8211; which a private firm does not&#8230;</p>
<p>So Walker is likely done with fighting against unions&#8230; Especially since he achieved his desired result (balancing the state budget)&#8230;.</p>
<p>That said, he&#8217;s done ALOT in the time he&#8217;s had so far &#8211; one has to wonder what the rest of his term will include</p>
<p>Walker Accomplishments:<br />
++++++++++++++++++++<br />
Public Union Law<br />
Concealed Carry<br />
Castle Law<br />
Voter ID</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3307</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They were always radical revolutionary forces against free markets and for socialism.

They were always violent. That&#039;s why the Pinkertons were needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were always radical revolutionary forces against free markets and for socialism.</p>
<p>They were always violent. That&#8217;s why the Pinkertons were needed.</p>
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		<title>By: chicagobluesgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/03/the-unions-tried-to-keep-a-lid-on-scott-walker-from-revealing-what-unions-really-are-and-now-hopefully-the-nation-may-figure-it-out-as-well/#comment-3306</link>
		<dc:creator>chicagobluesgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just posted something similar, so I agree with you that unions are on steroid level power trips. I still believe that when they started, it was a good idea. My sister, when quite young got her first job as an office girl in a non-unionized company. My dad was in a union and watched as she was progressively abused week by week, month by month losing any time for lunch or bathroom breaks with the minutes turning into hours of extra unpaid work. They were taking advantage of her good will--which was a widespread situation that helped to stimulate the first creation of unions decades ago. Now power hungry union leaders and politicians have morphed that first idea into a gargantuan beast who can no longer be satiated.

For me, personally, it is hard to be a retired public employee who worked under a union that gradually used my hard earned money for their own agenda eventually working up to a non-union, yet public servant administration position. Where do I fit in as I watch the dollars I put into my pension and retirement go into politicians&#039; pet projects and union leaders pockets and agendas? I&#039;m a conservative fighting to keep what little I may have left of a pension I dutifully paid into for close to 30 years. Thanks to poor union and state leadership, I may end up with nothing. But my first finger points to the union leaders who allowed it to get this far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just posted something similar, so I agree with you that unions are on steroid level power trips. I still believe that when they started, it was a good idea. My sister, when quite young got her first job as an office girl in a non-unionized company. My dad was in a union and watched as she was progressively abused week by week, month by month losing any time for lunch or bathroom breaks with the minutes turning into hours of extra unpaid work. They were taking advantage of her good will&#8211;which was a widespread situation that helped to stimulate the first creation of unions decades ago. Now power hungry union leaders and politicians have morphed that first idea into a gargantuan beast who can no longer be satiated.</p>
<p>For me, personally, it is hard to be a retired public employee who worked under a union that gradually used my hard earned money for their own agenda eventually working up to a non-union, yet public servant administration position. Where do I fit in as I watch the dollars I put into my pension and retirement go into politicians&#8217; pet projects and union leaders pockets and agendas? I&#8217;m a conservative fighting to keep what little I may have left of a pension I dutifully paid into for close to 30 years. Thanks to poor union and state leadership, I may end up with nothing. But my first finger points to the union leaders who allowed it to get this far.</p>
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