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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/06/26/operation-middle-finger-is-the-white-house-administration-in-an-acclerating-temper-tantrum-towards-congress-and-the-supreme-court/#comment-3471</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If SCOTUS swings the hammer, there is no LEGAL work-around, besides an amendment, packing the court or impeaching justices...

An amendment is dead in the water, since over 50% of the states are on the &#039;Chuck It!&#039; side...

Packing the court? Obama is NOT FDR - and FDR didn&#039;t quite get that either.

Impeachment? Good luck with the &#039;trial in the House&#039; part...

&lt;b&gt;Now, Obama theoretically could just say &#039;The court has ruled, let them enforce it&#039; and proceed as if nothing happened...

It would be ILLEGAL, and it would piss alot of people off... But it is a (Remote) possibility.
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That said, he would quickly make enemies of an overwhelming majority of Congress, and most of the people - after all, we have all been taught that SCOTUS is the &#039;recess monitor&#039; of the US political system, and their word is FINAL.

Defying that in an election year is political suicide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If SCOTUS swings the hammer, there is no LEGAL work-around, besides an amendment, packing the court or impeaching justices&#8230;</p>
<p>An amendment is dead in the water, since over 50% of the states are on the &#8216;Chuck It!&#8217; side&#8230;</p>
<p>Packing the court? Obama is NOT FDR &#8211; and FDR didn&#8217;t quite get that either.</p>
<p>Impeachment? Good luck with the &#8216;trial in the House&#8217; part&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Now, Obama theoretically could just say &#8216;The court has ruled, let them enforce it&#8217; and proceed as if nothing happened&#8230;</p>
<p>It would be ILLEGAL, and it would piss alot of people off&#8230; But it is a (Remote) possibility.<br />
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<p>That said, he would quickly make enemies of an overwhelming majority of Congress, and most of the people &#8211; after all, we have all been taught that SCOTUS is the &#8216;recess monitor&#8217; of the US political system, and their word is FINAL.</p>
<p>Defying that in an election year is political suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: celador2</title>
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		<dc:creator>celador2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it legal to enact ACA via EO if SCOTUS strikes it down?


One provision of ACA is that states set up exchanges for lower income users  seeking insurance. If a state has not carried that out the ACA threatens to go into the state and design the exchanges itself. WIthout ACA Obama has not that authority to regulate state health care. 

A state would sue in federal court and soon that court would decide as long as the Obama administration  was not acting under ACA it has no authority to regulate the practice of health care in a state without the state&#039;s consent,  is my read.

The ACA exchanges are not Medicaid but subsidized pools of needy members in a common data base.
Also,

Its a state role to regulate  insurance so the many mandates ACA calls for employers may be srricken and Obama has no authorty to impose ACA on Blue Cross in Washinton state, for example.

Ironically, ACA Provisions  that pass on high costs to all will stay in some form  but not by EO but bipartisan aggreement. Anyone who thought ACA would go away will be disappoined I fear. 

Regulating Medicare with a cost saving panel out of DC IPAB may stay on books, I fear as its about Medicare a federal program dsigned to control costs. ACA IPAB runs seniors health care not doctors and patients. 

Now I suspect much of costly provisions will remain even if ACA is tossed not because they are right but popular with GOP approval.

 The  &#039;slacker provision&#039; as Michele Malkin calls it now will remain on public dole for youth of Cadillac  family plans through age 26 married or not or even of they have isurance as will preexisitng conditions can not be dropped or charged more, I think.The mind boggling RX drug benefit will grow to close &#039;donut hole&#039; for seniors drugs, I have heard.
.

Many Republicans in House do not favor cheaper free market solutions but prefer to fall into the trap of being the cheaper than Democrats plutocratic remedy guys.

 ACA needs be repealed if any is left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it legal to enact ACA via EO if SCOTUS strikes it down?</p>
<p>One provision of ACA is that states set up exchanges for lower income users  seeking insurance. If a state has not carried that out the ACA threatens to go into the state and design the exchanges itself. WIthout ACA Obama has not that authority to regulate state health care. </p>
<p>A state would sue in federal court and soon that court would decide as long as the Obama administration  was not acting under ACA it has no authority to regulate the practice of health care in a state without the state&#8217;s consent,  is my read.</p>
<p>The ACA exchanges are not Medicaid but subsidized pools of needy members in a common data base.<br />
Also,</p>
<p>Its a state role to regulate  insurance so the many mandates ACA calls for employers may be srricken and Obama has no authorty to impose ACA on Blue Cross in Washinton state, for example.</p>
<p>Ironically, ACA Provisions  that pass on high costs to all will stay in some form  but not by EO but bipartisan aggreement. Anyone who thought ACA would go away will be disappoined I fear. </p>
<p>Regulating Medicare with a cost saving panel out of DC IPAB may stay on books, I fear as its about Medicare a federal program dsigned to control costs. ACA IPAB runs seniors health care not doctors and patients. </p>
<p>Now I suspect much of costly provisions will remain even if ACA is tossed not because they are right but popular with GOP approval.</p>
<p> The  &#8216;slacker provision&#8217; as Michele Malkin calls it now will remain on public dole for youth of Cadillac  family plans through age 26 married or not or even of they have isurance as will preexisitng conditions can not be dropped or charged more, I think.The mind boggling RX drug benefit will grow to close &#8216;donut hole&#8217; for seniors drugs, I have heard.<br />
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<p>Many Republicans in House do not favor cheaper free market solutions but prefer to fall into the trap of being the cheaper than Democrats plutocratic remedy guys.</p>
<p> ACA needs be repealed if any is left.</p>
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		<title>By: funwithknives</title>
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		<dc:creator>funwithknives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;with a very large bullet&#039; if this approach is used. It would be a tipping point of historical proportions

At exactly the wrong time.  A finance denial bill would rocket through The House and how many Senators would stand in the way at this moment in time?? 
SCOTUS Would speak and Barry would ,without exception , be outed as the TinPot he always was.

 A GOP Majority would be a  99 &amp; 44/100ths % certainty, in Nov./2012.

So is He Really That Stupid/Ignorant/Full of Hubris?
You saw how quickly he &#039;jumped&#039; for Eric Holder.
The Executive  Privilege gambit was in the books, ready for use.

Is your  &#039;wonderment&#039; back there, somewhere, cocked and locked?
I, for one, do not doubt it. But will he have &#039;the stones&#039; to use it......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;with a very large bullet&#8217; if this approach is used. It would be a tipping point of historical proportions</p>
<p>At exactly the wrong time.  A finance denial bill would rocket through The House and how many Senators would stand in the way at this moment in time??<br />
SCOTUS Would speak and Barry would ,without exception , be outed as the TinPot he always was.</p>
<p> A GOP Majority would be a  99 &amp; 44/100ths % certainty, in Nov./2012.</p>
<p>So is He Really That Stupid/Ignorant/Full of Hubris?<br />
You saw how quickly he &#8216;jumped&#8217; for Eric Holder.<br />
The Executive  Privilege gambit was in the books, ready for use.</p>
<p>Is your  &#8216;wonderment&#8217; back there, somewhere, cocked and locked?<br />
I, for one, do not doubt it. But will he have &#8216;the stones&#8217; to use it&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jonrd364</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonrd364</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT</p>
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		<title>By: westcoastpatriette</title>
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		<dc:creator>westcoastpatriette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how childish and unprofessional his tantrums appear to others.

So, all of his political retaliations are taking a toll on his popularity -- and diminishing any respect the easily duped may have ever had for him.  He is actually a childish, pathetic human being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how childish and unprofessional his tantrums appear to others.</p>
<p>So, all of his political retaliations are taking a toll on his popularity &#8212; and diminishing any respect the easily duped may have ever had for him.  He is actually a childish, pathetic human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if he pitches a fit, or worse says &#039;screw it&#039; and blows off the court...

It will make it so much easier to fire him in November.

Personally, I&#039;m predicting a full strike-down...

But I was expecting to see the state-immigration-crimes part of 1070 upheld too (Based on the logic that states can mirror federal law - as they do for such crimes as bank robbery, drug posession &amp; sales, and so on)....

Who knows?

I&#039;m hoping that the opinion includes a little wrist-slapping of Obama for his disrespect to the Court...

The Supremacy of the Supreme Court lends a semblance of sanity to our political system - the institution itself provides us with a way to settle disputes that both sides (at least until now) have at least grudgingly respected...

Obama cannot be allowed to profane the institution of the Court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if he pitches a fit, or worse says &#8216;screw it&#8217; and blows off the court&#8230;</p>
<p>It will make it so much easier to fire him in November.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m predicting a full strike-down&#8230;</p>
<p>But I was expecting to see the state-immigration-crimes part of 1070 upheld too (Based on the logic that states can mirror federal law &#8211; as they do for such crimes as bank robbery, drug posession &amp; sales, and so on)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Who knows?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that the opinion includes a little wrist-slapping of Obama for his disrespect to the Court&#8230;</p>
<p>The Supremacy of the Supreme Court lends a semblance of sanity to our political system &#8211; the institution itself provides us with a way to settle disputes that both sides (at least until now) have at least grudgingly respected&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama cannot be allowed to profane the institution of the Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Viet71</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viet71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rooted in the Constitution.

I think that&#039;s what we&#039;re going to get.  But I also believe the press and the Left will misrepresent the Court&#039;s holding in this case.  We live in bad times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rooted in the Constitution.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re going to get.  But I also believe the press and the Left will misrepresent the Court&#8217;s holding in this case.  We live in bad times.</p>
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		<title>By: checkmate2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>checkmate2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[send pacifiers! You encapsulated my feelings exactly. Look at the gray hair and he should be afraid of Americans, which he despises.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>send pacifiers! You encapsulated my feelings exactly. Look at the gray hair and he should be afraid of Americans, which he despises.</p>
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		<title>By: westcoastpatriette</title>
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		<dc:creator>westcoastpatriette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no telling how he may retaliate...we should send him a big package of giant pacifiers to suck on when the ruling is handed out.  He might actually start crying, declare martial law and declare himself King.  Or maybe he&#039;ll have a breakdown and have to be admitted to a psych ward on suicide watch.  I think he is close to losing his mind.  If this country was not so strong and big, I would be afraid.  But, there is too many of us watching him melt down as he continues to lose his grip on power and I am sure there are many employees who work for the various agencies he oversees who are sick to death of him (and embarrassed, too.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no telling how he may retaliate&#8230;we should send him a big package of giant pacifiers to suck on when the ruling is handed out.  He might actually start crying, declare martial law and declare himself King.  Or maybe he&#8217;ll have a breakdown and have to be admitted to a psych ward on suicide watch.  I think he is close to losing his mind.  If this country was not so strong and big, I would be afraid.  But, there is too many of us watching him melt down as he continues to lose his grip on power and I am sure there are many employees who work for the various agencies he oversees who are sick to death of him (and embarrassed, too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I would not be surprised if the Court decides to remind him why their name starts with &#039;Supreme&#039;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I would not be surprised if the Court decides to remind him why their name starts with &#8216;Supreme&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: checkmate2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>checkmate2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the middle flag in return. I too pray the whole mess is dumped by law but have no doubt the Left led by O, will try to circumvent it someway by hook or crook. Just as today&#039;s actions against SB1070. 

&quot;I&#039;m sorry, the number you have called is no longer in service. If you think you&#039;ve reached this message in error, please hang up and try again&quot;... repeat until AZ law enforcement hangs up in disgust. 

Ya I can whistle the tones too :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the middle flag in return. I too pray the whole mess is dumped by law but have no doubt the Left led by O, will try to circumvent it someway by hook or crook. Just as today&#8217;s actions against SB1070. </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, the number you have called is no longer in service. If you think you&#8217;ve reached this message in error, please hang up and try again&#8221;&#8230; repeat until AZ law enforcement hangs up in disgust. </p>
<p>Ya I can whistle the tones too <img src='http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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