A Director's view on endorsing a candidate for President (comments open)

By Jeff Emanuel

With regard to today's endorsement conversation, I have only this to say:

As a Director of this site, I fully support our endorsing the Republican nominee for President in 2008.

That's all I have to say. How we arrive at that nominee is a different question altogether; regardless, my endorsement -- and this website's official endorsement (if Erick and I, along with our fellow Directors, have anything to say about it -- which we do) -- will come next year, and will only come at such a time as there is an established nominee for us to rally behind.

END.

« "Just Another Ordinary Politician" WatchComments (0) | Brokered Convention? Cool.Comments (0) »
A Director's view on endorsing a candidate for President (comments open)
I think you should by kowalski

I think RedState should endorse a candidate when they've decided on which one they want. I don't care if it's Mitt Romney, I never have. I almost think RedState would be derelict in its duty if it didn't endorse a candidate.

I've never expected Mitt Romney to win anyone's endorsement, and I certainly don't expect him to win RedState's. But nevertheless, this is the most influential Republican/Conservative participatory blog in the United States, we all love it because of that, and I think it's perfectly appropriate that it endorses a candidate.

I wouldn't expect anything less of this contentious bunch at this point, frankly. So fight it out and choose wisely.

I would consider this to be an error. What is the point? Is the point to have a place where all "Red State" people can converse and discuss freely, or is the purpose to force people to toe a party line?

Once the general election begins, by all means endorse, but in a primary when the field is wide open with a large number of interesting contenders, why do so? Who knows, my candidate might not make it, but I would resent being "encouraged" to support a given candidate.

MOlsen6
Proud supporter of McCain '00 and McCain '08

Give me a break by kowalski

Each one of our favorite bloggers here has a preferred candidate, whether they say it outright or not. I don't mind anyone on RedState talking about who their choice is for the Primary or the General.

This is America, dude.

My statement was with regard to an official RedState, Inc. endorsement. Personal support is, as always, not only accepted but encouraged.

And bs: yep, we're all over the map.

I'd be surprised if you guys are much closer than the rest of the inmates here at the asylum.


The Unofficial RedState FAQ
“You are not only responsible for what you say, but also for what you do not say. ” - Martin Luther

You just have to have a little faith. And I mean that sincerely.

I don't see the point. It's not going to persuade anyone. Red State just isn't that influential in that way.

HTML Help for Red Staters

"Oh sure, we post here, hoping to influence people's opinions on a daily basis, all of us do it, on matters not just of international importance but also in terms of local congressional races, but we don't want to touch the Primary. We're too good for that, and we wouldn't want to let anyone know what we really think."

What a huge load of cccccccccgarbage.

Let me know if you find ManBearPig NT
______________________________
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Whatever by Neil Stevens

Clearly you're just here to rant and not to persuade, so I really don't care to continue this. With your attitude right now I really don't care what you think.

HTML Help for Red Staters

The problem with RedState is that it has a loosey-goosey editorial board and nobody has to make any decisions. We're still waiting for the much-promised site redesign. Now they're the biggest Conservative blog in the country but don't want to make an endorsement. It's a joke, except that they regularly ask for money to fund their personal adventures. Erick is supposed to be a town councilman running unopposed for the seat and he still had the cojones to ask for people's donations here. Every time these people turn around they ask for money, and you're telling me they're not even going to be held to the minimal standard of making a recommendation or having an endorsement for the Presidency of the United States?

Why?

Uh...what? by Ben Domenech

I'm sorry, kowalski, but unless you plan on convincing Jeff, Myself, Erick, Thomas, and Clayton to all have the same opinion about the same candidate, you're not going to get what you want. And even then, we're a community site first and foremost, and it's not like we'd demand loyalty to it.

For some perspective: to me, the NR endorsement is a little silly. I know that "The Editors" endorsed him, but Ramesh supports McCain, Podhoretz is for Rudy, and Derbyshire is for Paul. I tend to respect them individually for what they write about this more than anything.

And what's more, while we host individual candidate requests for funds, we haven't asked for donations since we sold off to Eagle. There's no need, obviously. We really appreciate all the support over the years; but to suggest that because we host people asking others to support conservative candidates financially means we somehow have to have a top-down editorial endorsing one of these guys for POTUS strikes me as silly.

PS watch your language by Neil Stevens

Just because you don't like one Director decision, it doesn't give you liberty to go break site rules.

HTML Help for Red Staters

I've donated more money to RedState causes in the past three years than I have to any other single cause I support. Erick has no compunction about getting up here on this blog and asking people for donations so he can run for City Council in Macon. I've also personally donated money to both Jeff and Victoria's sojourns to Iraq. I've furthermore donated money whenever anyone on this blog asked for it because the lights were going out.

If this website thinks it's going to run a legitimate operation and ask for (and receive) people's money without taking a stand about things like this, they're mistaken. Just because they're now owned by Human Events doesn't absolve them of their responsibility to talk candidly about their choices: this isn't some kind of opinion farm, or at least I never thought it was.

If the Directors don't want to choose a candidate for the Primary or the General, and articulate a reason why, then they're never going to see another dollar of support from me *for ANY reason.* And I mean it.

Ski is no Rombot NT by Joliphant

______________________________
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

He is sometimes by Neil Stevens

Sometimes if you say the wrong thing about Romney he'll go off with vigor.

HTML Help for Red Staters

This is true by kowalski

When people say things that are repeated lies, I get angry. So would you.

What gets me angry is when people come here and all but accuse Erick of being a fraud.

HTML Help for Red Staters

I accused him of being a politician: as much of a politician as anyone else in this world. He's running unopposed and still had the temerity to ask for cash. Unbelievable! I wonder what would happen if Erick was running for Congress.

"I'm running unopposed. Donate to my campaign."

That's not a myth, that's a fact.

Actually you have by Neil Stevens

You say you've given money, and haven't been given what you are owed for your money. And since Erick is the head honcho here at RS, the buck stops with him.

Yeah yeah, and I know Erick probably hates it when I stick up for him so vigorously. But when RS promoted me, it seems RS got my loyalty to go along with it. I think it comes from having gotten to know better the people behind the front page.

HTML Help for Red Staters

I suspect they will morph into people who supported the troops all along, and put forth other howlers as well.

Agreed! n/t by streetwise

A tad energized at times, but not a bot.

Hey Neil, good one. by kowalski

You can look at my posts about Romney as well as any other editor can. They're all there in the database.

I think RedState should make an endorsement. That's not being a RomBot.

I expect us, barring a Paul nomination, to have total agreement about the General.

tell me what to think or whom to support.

Kowalski, I really don't get your anger with RS. What I'm reading is that because you've contributed money, you want these guys to TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.

Most of us only get angry when people TELL US WHAT TO DO!

Hey, if you want by Ben Domenech

You can give me money, and I'll keep not telling you what to do. :)

This is a Republican website right??

I think everyone needs to spend the evening with a drink and watch some basketball.


The Unofficial RedState FAQ
“You are not only responsible for what you say, but also for what you do not say. ” - Martin Luther

Basketball??? by Darin H

Basketball sucks, only football is the true sport. More military guys watch football over basketball. Why do you think that is????

___________________________________
Two thirds of the world is covered by water,
the other third is covered by Champ Bailey.

______________________________
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Except to football fans
______________________________
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Fred08

==== 13 ====

Personal opinion: by John E.

RedState board should not make an official endorsement. The various Directors and contributors ought to do it individually as they so see fit and if not actually endorsing, then disclose their personal ranking and inclinations. Same goes for all of Redstate participants. That is what makes RedState click.

If you all did some kind of caucus and reported out what could be agreed upon as a result of a very mature and adult debate, that would be interesting. If only the entire RedState community could do that; it would be an important accomplishment. Still, RedState polls are informative and useful.

RedState's significance is that it is grassroots. NR is significant because it is elite. RedState directors should be very careful with respect to the tempting trappings elite media.

We hear ya by Ben Domenech

Pretty much.

Kowalski,
You're focused and fired-up over this primary decision.

I suspect you've got as good a sense of who these candidates truly are as anyone here. So how about sharing your endorsement with me.

I strongly favor McCain but I am eager to hear why I should support someone else.

 
Redstate Network Login:
(lost password?)


©2008 Eagle Publishing, Inc. All rights reserved. Legal, Copyright, and Terms of Service