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Blown and Tossed by the Winds of Political Correctness

I have traveled across this great country many times.  I have met countless Americans looking for jobs–real jobs, doing real work.  These Americans have lives to lead, families to feed, rent to pay, and gas tanks to fill. Their dreams are our dreams; their hopes are our hopes; their search for a better America is our search.

And yet in Washington, blocking the American dream has become political sport.  The Washington Establishment would rather fight global warming than fight for American jobs.

President Obama and his administration have decided to wage war against global warming and thus against the American worker. The Obama administration writes oppressive government rules and regulations that shut the factories and workplaces of American workers. Since January 2010, over 100 coal-fired plants have or are going to close. We are the collateral damage of the war against global warming.  His “just say no, no, no” to unleashing domestic energy sources energy “strategy” doesn’t help create jobs or lower energy costs for American families or businesses.  Those living on or near the Gulf Coast in particular know the impact these extreme environmental positions can have on the region’s economy.

In May 2010 the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office issued a report entitled “How Policies to Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions Could Affect Employment.” The CBO report shows that emissions reduction programs would cause job losses in coal mining, oil and gas extraction, gas utilities, and petroleum refining.  It concluded that “job losses in the industries that shrink would lower employment more than job gains in other industries would increase employment, thereby raising the overall unemployment rate.”

My opponents for the GOP nomination, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, have supported the radical environmentalists’ measures to combat global warming at the expense of American jobs.

In his book No Apology, Mr. Romney wrote, “I believe that climate change is occurring. The reduction in size of global ice caps is hard to ignore. I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor.” Last year, Mr. Romney said he favored “reducing our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and global warming.”

While governor, Mr. Romney supported restrictions on carbon emissions — especially, those targeting coal. He bragged that Massachusetts was “the first and only state to set CO2 emissions limits on power plants.”

Mr. Gingrich has also flip-flopped on this issue. He, too, was for emissions reductions before he was against it. The former House speaker once said that there is a “wealth of scientific data” of man-made global warming to warrant “urgent” government action.

Asked in a February 2007 PBS Frontline interview about President George W. Bush’s endorsement of mandatory carbon caps in his 2000 campaign, Mr. Gingrich said “there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.” He also appeared in a 2008 television ad with then Democratic House SpeakerNancy Pelosi promoting the theory man-made climate change as fact.

That was then; this is now.

Romney and Gingrich have changed their views for one simple reason: to pander to Republican voters when the political heat is rising. They sought to ingratiate themselves with trendy liberal elites — despite lack of conclusive, verifiable scientific evidence. Their failure was not just intellectual, but moral. It showed weakness of character, inability to lead even when it’s not popular.

Global warming is the wrong war for America to fight.  While millions of Americans are suffering unemployment, their American dream is being blocked by the government rules Romney and Gingrich advocated.

Of all the GOP candidates, I am the only one who has not bowed, and will never bow, to this liberal orthodoxy.   I did not pander when global warming seemed cool to the press and to Hollywood.  We know that climate changes over time, that he earth warms and cools over time.  This debate is about whether human activity plays a role, and whether U.S. emissions cuts can have any effect when China and India refuse to go along. The apostles of this pseudo-religion believe that America and its people are the source of the earth’s temperature.  I do not.

I believe in conservation and good stewardship of our environment. It is our duty as Americans to combat industrial pollution and make sure our air and water are clean. But we can do that without hurting the American worker.  Like most Americans I treasure our natural beauty and national treasures, our national parks, and wildlife refuges.  I also appreciate the value of working the land, creating jobs, and strengthening opportunities for all American families.

In contrast, radical environmentalism has a blind devotion to the promotion of a radical agenda that ignores the interests and property rights of people.  Global warming became the litmus test of this movement.

I have a different view of America. There is a war worth fighting, and that is to restore the American dream and to stop those who think it is dispensable.  Left to the wisdom of individual Americans, our economy can and will prosper.  The role of our government is to allow individual Americans to live in liberty and pursue happiness, not to destroy our economy and everything we hold dear.

Rick Santorum, a former representative and senator from Pennsylvania, is a candidate for the Republican nomination for president.  

 

COMMENTS

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    It’s great that you’ve always opposed government involvement in this issue. I commend you for that.

    But you continually misrepresent Newt on this issue. Back when you, me, and six other people knew the science on global warming was wrong, Newt was trying to get a conservative voice into the discussion, and pushed for conservative solutions.

    There were many good conservatives that got caught up early on, only to later find that the numbers were fudged and this problem really never existed.

    Senator, you continue to promote values as something important to you, and say your campaign is based on them. Honesty is one of the more important values for someone to hold. But honesty means telling the whole truth.

    The Westminster Larger Catechism Question 145 puts it this way:

    Question 145: What are the sins forbidden in the ninth commandment?

    Answer: The sins forbidden in the ninth commandment are, all prejudicing the truth, and the good name of our neighbors, as well as our own, especially in public judicature; giving false evidence, suborning false witnesses, … and partial censuring(emphasis mine)

    This isn’t the only issue you conveniently only tell part of the truth to make yourself look better. This isn’t the value we’re looking for in a leader.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      at least couldn’t be right enough to drive policy AT ALL! To his credit, Santorum never bought into it. Nor did he buy into individual mandates for health care. Newt did. New t is my second choice. This is why, coupled with the fact that Newt couldn’t win TN.

      Now, if Newt wins AL and MS, that would argue for him to stay in.

      more later

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

        This is about honestly and decency. If you base your campaign on values, you better actually have them.

        Santorum’s diary here makes the claim that there’s no difference between Romney’s and Newt’s position and record on this issue. That is simply a dishonest representation of the facts.

        The sad part is, he could’ve chosen to be completely honest and it would not have made his position any less strong.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          He doesn’t sat that my friend. Look and read.

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            Romney and Gingrich have changed their views for one simple reason: to pander to Republican voters when the political heat is rising. They sought to ingratiate themselves with trendy liberal elites

        • littlehouse18

          And as GC said, all it took was common sense to figure out that AGW was suspect. And perhaps an analytical mind that doesn’t let itself get blinded.

          I’m not sure that Mitt has that kind of insight. Newt could, but being an academic he gave the warmists too much credit because they are from the academic community, not realizing how agenda-driven their work is.

          • demsaresatanic

            it came from the academic community. The evidence that atmospheric co2 is increasing is solid, as is the evidence that co2 is a greenhouse gas. The commonsense thing to do was to take the possibility seriously.

      • WillWong

        Because back in 1994 when all these discussions were raging, Santorum was a second term congressman concentrating on his senate election and nobody asked him for his opinion!

        • http://thethinkingvoter.blogspot.com abierubin

          he strongly slammed the government mandating the individual to buy Health Care.

          http://www.therightscoop.com/definitive-proof-santorum-did-not-support-the-individual-mandate/

          • demsaresatanic

            have a direct link to the video? And for your info, Rick is quoted to the contrary here:
            http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevolution/2012/01/07/santorum-supported-individual-mandate-before-he-was-morally-aghast-by-it/

          • http://thethinkingvoter.blogspot.com abierubin

            You can try googling “The Right Scoop Definitive Proof Santorum Did Not Support The Individual Mandate”

            In addition to the video which is at the bottom of the article, The Right Scoop debunks your and other links which are all hearsay. If you have the choice to hear from a person’s own mouth what he thinks of an issue in 1994 or you can read what someone said he once said without any quotes or proofs, which is more reliable? A direct video of course!

          • WillWong

            I wasn’t debating whether Santorum was for or against the individual mandate. My point is that in 1994, Santorum was a pretty young and inexperienced two term congressman running for the senate and not too many people were looking to him for his opinion on any issue including the individual mandate.

            But this video that you had posted clearly show him as being against the individual mandate and is a lot more conclusive than the link provided by demsaresatanic below.

          • http://thethinkingvoter.blogspot.com abierubin

            He doesn’t just speak the conservative talk when all eyes are upon him but as a young Congressman representing a blue district in the purple state of PA he felt it necessary to speak up against government mandates even though he could’ve gotten away with remaining silent.

            It shows his authenticity, honesty, and readiness to stand up for what he believes is right no matter the circumstances & the effect on him personally.

          • WillWong

            when he voted against right-to-work laws to protect unions in Penn!

            And was he being sincere and honest to his prolife roots when he endorsed Specter over Toomey?

            So when he started to take one for the team, he was no longer young and inexperienced?

            Anyway, i wasn’t intending to make a whole lot about his youth and inexperience except to say that no one really cared for his views on the mandate during the national discussion on healthcare.

      • honoraryintern

        …Warming science was wrong before Newt sat on the couch.

        How much hypocrisy is involved in pointing a commandment at someone about censuring when your whole argument is exactly that?

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          That’s my argument. The science was always wrong of course, but at the time most people bought into it. Newt was trying to get a conservative voice into the discussion while everyone else just stood by and watched the liberals control the discussion.

          • WillWong

            but a lieutenant at best!

          • garfieldjl

            I think he could make a good President, but not with the mess we’re currently in.

            I’m supporting Newt cause he’s more of a problem solver, I believe Santorum would be a good President after he has the experience of being VP.

            I think we have the best possible ticket out of who is left, but we need to figure out who is on top.

          • WillWong

            I don’t even mind if Newt works out a deal with Santorum that he will only be President for 1 term and during the next 4 years works feverishly to turn the country around and turn over the reins to Santorum in 2016 if that is what it would take for Santorum to drop out and endorse Newt right now!

            Seriously, we can argue and argue until our face turn purple but if Romney wins this thing, Obama gets 4 more years and there will be nothing left in 2016! So let’s get behind Newt!

            Senator Santorum….please approach Speaker Gingrich and work out a deal where you can drop out and endorse him immediately!

          • garfieldjl

            Romney and Paul are tag teaming, if Gingrich and Santorum decide to alternate who is going to seriously compete in what state, it would negate Romney’s money advantage.

            Santorum should not compete in Alabama and Mississippi, Gingrich can win those easily if Santorum sits those out, then when Romney is focused on Gingrich, Santorum wins some states up north.

            Then Romney goes after Santorum and Gingrich picks up some states.

            The two of them combined would get the magic number.

          • demsaresatanic

            In my view, it is the most annoying part of this race. Rick should be the lead man taking it to Romney in the North and Newt should be the lead man taking it to Romney in the South.

          • avagreen

            I’m sure this subject has been worked over already, but I got this in the email this a.m.

            With different media outlets and campaigns reporting various numbers, there’s been a lot of confusion lately about the state of the delegate race.

            As a key supporter of our campaign, I wanted to make sure you were armed with the correct numbers from the Republican National Committee – and not the spin from the DC Establishment who are trying to prematurely end the race for the Republican nomination.

            Here are two quick things to keep in mind.

            First, the magic number of delegates to secure the nomination is 1,144 and no candidate is remotely close to that number. In fact, nearly two-thirds of all delegates will come from states that haven’t voted yet.

            Second, there is an important distinction between bound and unbound delegates. Most media outlets are reporting estimates or projections which include unbound delegates from various beauty contests.

            What only matters at this point is the number of bound delegates. According to the Republican National Committee, here’s the official breakdown:

            Romney – 339 delegates
            Gingrich – 107 delegates
            Santorum – 95 delegates
            Paul – 22 delegates

            As you can see, Newt is currently in second place. Many of Senator Santorum’s victories came in states whose delegates will not be selected until much later in the process. For this reason, Newt wasn’t expending a lot of time or resources in these states, choosing instead to focus on states with bound delegates. That strategy has now been validated by the official RNC delegate count.

            Keep in mind, this breakdown doesn’t take into account the fact that the challenge to the “winner take all” awarding of delegates from both Florida and Arizona – which won’t be decided until this summer’s convention – could reduce Governor Romney’s delegate advantage dramatically.

            Here’s a story from the Washington Times which outlines the delegate math in greater detail, and shows that Newt is actually in second place.
            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/8/rncs-delegate-count-shows-gingrich-ahead-santorum/

            Simply put, Newt is in the race for the long haul. Thank you for your generous support and for standing with Newt’s campaign.

          • jamesm

            These numbers will change today with Kansas having 40 bound delegates and Santorum to pick up the bulk. Guam, Northern Marianas and the Virgin Islands are unbound delegates. Even if Romney wins these delegates they are not required to vote for Romney

          • garfieldjl

            Gingrich is right about the fact Florida isn’t playing by the rules.

            Again to help Romney, what a surprise…

          • jamesm

            He will not have enough delegates at the convention.

          • honoraryintern

            My caucus in Colorado, we polled the ‘unbound’ delegates. 1 Paul, 1Romney, 1 Newt, 7 Santorum. So you want to wait until we prove to you that Rick gets 70%? Mitt Romney will have won with 35% vs 55% for Rick and Newt. Newt has no path to the nomination.. under 10% purple state spoiler. The punch bowl, looks like chunks…

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            Even if he becomes the GOP candidate, there’s no way Santorum takes Colorado in the General.

          • honoraryintern

            As purple as purple comes, Colorado. Rick’s rallys here were 5 times expected. Loveland, Cos, Woodland park and that was before James Dobson personally endorsed here in Cos. You have no idea how powerful Rick’s speeches were. Data is your friend. Right now a Newtonium wand seems his only path…

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            Apparently you don’t know how this stuff works around here. Did you see what they did to Ken Buck in the General election in 2010? That’s nothing compared to what they’d do to Santorum. He’d lose by 10-15 points to Obama.

    • demsaresatanic

      he was against it,” is a joke, who the bleep is against trying to find reasonable ways to reduce emissions.

  • redmymind

    Those who start buying into the false assumptions of political correctness, be it out of political expediency, must sooner or later come to logically accept its ridiculous conclusions. Not to do so would only undermine one’s credibility. Hence the serial flip-flopper in the race, who having ZERO principles to tether himself to, is all over the ideological map depending on the day, shielded only by an unearned, self-proclaimed title of “conservative,” and the only real weapons he has: destructive, false ads and the complicit, corrupt, but powerful GOP establishment. Yes, he is confined to resorting to brute force because he HAS no principled argument to win on.

    God speed, Senator! I’m praying for you and your wonderful family!!!

  • jamesm

    I believe that Romney will say anything to get elected. I believe Newt actually did change his position on global warming. I do make that distinction.

    • garfieldjl

      Newt Gingrich changed his position when he read the bill the Dems were trying to push through and saw it as a power grab, so he testified against Cap & Trade.

      Romney on the other hand will say anything to get elected.

      Seriously, I’ll take this a step further:

      Senator Santorum, I actually watched Gingrich’s testimony on Cap & Trade in full, this trying to paint Gingrich as being the same as Romney is incredibly dishonest and I think you owe Newt an apology.

      As a Newt supporter, I’ve already said I will not give 1 dime to help Romney if he is the nominee. Currently, I would support you if you are the nominee. That said, if you continue to resort to Romney’s tactics, I will have a tough time voting for you in the general as well.

      You want to point out where Newt was once wrong on issues fine, but give the man credit for coming around to the right side of the issues instead of falsely comparing him to “Say anything and do anything to get elected” Romney.

      • jamesm

        poll today.

        If Santorum is the Republican nominee, he is up by one point over the president, 46% to 45%. This is the second time since polling began in 2011 that Santorum has had a slight lead over Obama. Romney is the only other candidate to lead the president more than one time in the polls.

        Talking about more than social issues is helping

        • garfieldjl

          A lot can change between now and november. Remember the people that are conducting the polls generally want Obama to win in November, which makes them doubly suspect.

          • jamesm

            is that Obama can be beaten by Santorum as well as Romney. I agree polls can change rather quickly. Romney’s electibility argument (over other candidates) is based on polling. Obviously that any electibility argument in favor of Romney is suspect at best

          • garfieldjl

            I think a Lawn Gnome would be more likely to win against Obama than Romney.

            I think Gingrich would have an easier time of beating Obama, due to Obama’s baggage getting in the way of attacking Gingrich.

            The couch commercial, excuse me but how can Obama go after Gingrich on that after Solyndra and all his Green energy shannigans?

          • jamesm

            I was parroting the argument of Romney supporters to knock it down..(electibility and polls) I believe Romney is the worst of the candidates remaining. His air bombardment campaign will not work. He cannot bring the argument to Obama on Obamacare. Nominating this guy is a disaster. I am firmly in the Not Romney camp. Gingrich is the best but we need to get behind Santorum to defeat this guy. It is getting late. Splitting the vote is stupid. This only helps Romney

          • garfieldjl

            In Kansas we should get behind Santorum.

            In Mississippi and Alabama, Santorum supporters need to get behind Gingrich.

            The idea is we force Romney’s attack machine to run around in circles.

            Seriously, Santorum and Gingrich could at the end of all this have more that Romney in delegates and their totals combined would put them over the number needed.

            I just want this set up where Romney can’t focus on a target.

          • honoraryintern

            …in MI an OH. Didn’t happen. Check the delegate thread. Mitt has won less than 40% of the vote and has 60% of the delegates. Only Rick can reverse the math with unified conservative support.

          • Vegas_Rick

            You want some cheese to go with that whine?

          • honoraryintern

            … Unless something changes. If that’s ok with you come out and state it.

            Mitt Romney is our worst choice, a newly minted ‘conservative’. Newt cannot win and his biggest backer actually supports Mitt. Seems that’s all ok with you.

            Rick is a social conservative. That means he keeps his word and won’t give us woulda, shoulda, coulda once he gets in the white house. No republican has won without the sc base since Richard Nixon.

            Neutonium, it effects the nicest people in the strangest ways.

          • Vegas_Rick

            I am not. But I do think he has every right to stay in the contest. Especially since social conservatism isn’t going to win this election. That’s why Obama ran the bimbo Fluke up the flag pole. To get people like Santorum to stick his foot in his mouth.

            Santorum bots like yourself really need to think about the general. He hasn’t got a prayer.

            Having said that, if he DOES pull out the nomination, I might actually do more than just pull the lever for him. I can’t make the same statement re Mittens.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            Newt attack on ABC’s new Christian Bitches show? Does Newt know that social issues are supposedly a loser and that we conservative should tremble in fear of the MSM? He didn’t get the memo, thank GOD! smile

          • Vegas_Rick

            If there was, I was too dense to get it.

          • littlehouse18

            was contradicted by the man you support, Newt, wading into social issues.

          • lynnotting

            In the past 30 years, Newt has done more to advance the cause of conservatism than anyone in this presidential race; possibly even more than anyone in the current Republican Party. More importantly, his record proves he knows how to lead to accomplich goals he sets. The lack of respect members this party show Newt is disgraceful. Santorum should prove he has intergrity and support Newt. Unfortunately, I have not been able to see this quality in Sen. Santorum, but somehow I do believe at some point, he may have possessed it.

  • redmymind

    How does it work?

    1. By attempting to produce psychological guilt that if somehow we don’t rally around a single GOP candidate at this stage that we’re just hurting the party and its eventual nominee (in his sick, twisted, unprincipled mind: HIM).

    2. By attempting to paralyze the base giving the well-practiced joke of “inevitability” an added boost of temporal urgency.

    Game certainly not “over,” Mitty. It’s just getting started!!! Hope your ATM squad can keep forkin’ over the $$$. Otherwise, it’s sound defeat for you!!!

    • littlehouse18

      The Obama campaign is doing the same thing.

  • WillWong

    I would like you to respond to Newt’s video about you and your positions in your own words!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ELbCuLEe7Sw

  • WillWong

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ELbCuLEe7Sw#t=12s

  • WillWong

    • littlehouse18

      nt

      • Rudy

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      • WillWong

        Who owe his 2004 senate seat to Santorum and GWBush finally seeing the errors of his way trusting in Harry Reid and Big O.

        http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Specter-Obama-healthcare-vote/2012/03/12/id/432255

  • garfieldjl

    If you look at Cap & Trade for instance, he changed his position when he got ahold of what the Democrats were actually trying to do, and read the bill.

    He could have gone along with what the Democrats were pushing, but he didn’t. He testified before Congress against Cap & Trade the exact same day that Gore was testifying for it. He had nothing to gain for this, yet he did what he thought was right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDutBRMsXw

    And a hallmark of that testimony is:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcWnpTdbmSo

  • Scope

    Gingrich actually co-sponsored legislation to halt man made Global Warming He has been all over the map on man made Global Warming and the Cap and Trade issues. As recently as 2007 Gingrich was debating with John Kerry, and agreeing that Global Warming is real and needs to be tackled.

    Gingrich worked for a lobbying company called Green Energy which lobbied for ethanol subsidies. Just a few weeks ago, when Gingrich was a guest with Neil Cavuto, Cavuto showed a graph with $4.2 billion going for oil and gas subsidies, and $8.2 billion going for green energy subsidies. Cavuto asked Gingrich is he was in favor of those subsidies, and Gingrich said yes he was. Cavuto asked, even Green energy subsidies, and again Gingrich replied that yes he was. I understand that on Gingrich’s own website, under his energy section, he supports “funding” for green energy initiatives, which no doubt would include companies like Solyndra.

    In the 80′s, Gingrich also co-sponsored legislation to protect endangered species. Isn’t CA crap out of luck with a water supply for the farming areas because of the protection of some little fish species?

    On another topic, Gingrich co-sponsored legislation in 1987 called the Pro-Fairness Doctrine Bill. The bill passed the Senate and the House, and thankfully Ronald Reagan vetoed the bill. That was the start of conservative talk radio which included Rush Limbaugh’s voice.

    Thank you Senator Santorum. It seems that Gingrich’s vetting is far enough in the past now that most are forgetting what his actual record is on many issues, including his support for Cap and Trade. Thank you for bringing these important issues back into the forefront.

    • garfieldjl

      I’m not going to start bashing Santorum over them, he’s acknowledged them as mistakes, as Newt has acknowledged his mistakes.

      Neither Santorum nor Gingrich has been defending Romneycare though.

      I think the pro-Santorum people need to stop bashing Gingrich.

      I think the pro-Gingrich people need to stop bashing Santorum.

      Romney and Paul are tag teaming Gingrich and Santorum, I think we need to keep both Santorum and Gingrich in this and make sure that Romney doesn’t get the magic number of delegates. Santorum should stay out of states Newt could probably easily beat Romney in, and Gingrich should stay out of states Santorum could easily win.

      I also think that at the end of the primary, that Santorum and Gingrich should combine their delegate totals and then decide whom is on top of the ticket. While neither one can reach the magic number on their own, I think they can hit the magic number quite easily when their totals are combined at the end of this.

      @Scope

      I’ve watched Gingrich’s testimony on Cap and Trade all 70+ minutes worth, from start to finish. He testified against Cap and Trade, he got into a heated exchange with Democrat Henry Waxman, and it made perfectly clear that once Gingrich knew what the Dems were pushing for, he made it clear he would not support it.

      • Scope

        For example, the Newtbot Will Wong has several posts showing disrespect and then some on a diary written by Santorum. Will Wong is like a freakin’ broken record already- Newt was Speaker, Newt balanced the budgets, I’m waiting to hear that Newt walks on water too. How about if Newt ever posted a diary here, highly unlikely, and the Santorum supporters came out in force bashing Newt? I’m beginning to believe that Will Wong gets leg tingles every time he sees the name Newt Gingrich. He is obsessed with Newt.

        Here is a fact check on Gingrich’s positions on Global Warming and Cap and Trade. It includes a link to the Congressional testimony Gingrich gave on the Cap and Trade bill along with Al Gore in 2009. Gingrich testified that he would go along with the Democrat version of a Cap and Trade bill if it included “very strong incentives” in other words government subsidies, for research in new technology. As late as a few weeks ago Gingrich is still saying that he supports government subsidies even for Green Energy initiatives. Yeah, so Gingrich says, in other words, well if you include nuclear technology, and green coal technology, I’ll reach across the aisle and go along with you on your Wind and Solar projects, which are no where near cost effective or credible. What about letting private investors invest in green energy projects without breaking the bank on projects that would die off without big government subsidies? Believe me, if there were green energy “solutions” don’t you think the private sector would be in an all out mode to bring them to market, and they would be wealthy beyond imagination. They would be in profit competition with the fossile fuel companies. What in the heck is conservative about big government solutions, and federal government spending like mad, when we are screaming for smaller goverment, less government involvement, and a whole lot less spending. Aren’t we in a dire deficit situation? Newt Gingrich has proven time and again that he is all in for big government solutions, as long as it is his ideas that are adopted. He’s been just as nuanced with his healthcare “solutions” where he still promotes a government mandate that everyone purchase healthcare insurance, buy a bond, or if you earn less than $50,000 then apply for government subsidies (medicaid?). Because he gives the citizens a few different choices doesn’t mean that he is not still demanding that every citizen must be covered which is exactly what we are fighting at the SC for currently. When the government tells you you must purchase something, they can also demand that you purchase anything they tell you to purchase including contraceptives to keep the population level’s down. Unsurprisingly Gingrich in his early global warming days did in fact make a statement that “over population” was in fact contributing to global warming.

        Yes, Santorum has made mistakes, and he has also apologized for those mistakes. He has been honest and up and up about his negatives. He hasn’t tried to excuse away his bad votes, and he certainly hasn’t simply changed his language to make it appear that he is a completely new man since his time in the Senate. I by far trust Santorum over Gingrich any day. Santorum isn’t undisciplined, and he certainly isn’t only a hair away from the self destruct button.

        • garfieldjl

          Explains the contraception debacle and the fact last debate Gingrich had to bail out Santorum TWICE!!!

          My comments are directed towards the Senator as well, not just his supporters.

        • WillWong

          And Newt did post here and yes, lots of Santorumbots like yourself responded too. I thought Santorum was disrespectful of Speaker Gingrich…yes it is Speaker….and thought I would give Santorum the chance to answer Newt’s charges that he….oh well just go listen to the video I linked!

          If you so choose to, you can answer Newt’s charges against Santorum! Let’s hear it from you Santorumbot Scope!

          • jamesm

            I didn’t see any disrespect from Santorum to Gingrich or Gingrich to Santorum. They are both men and have described each other as friends several times. They will come together

          • WillWong

            Without telling the whole truth is a very subtle and dangerous form of disrespect….disrespect without appearing disrespectful! And addressing Speaker Gingrich as congressman during a debate is quite disrespectful and many here actually caught it!

          • jamesm

            He printed “congressman Santorum” instead of “Senator” Mild barbs

          • Scope

            What is the whole truth Will Wong. So now, posting direct Gingrich quotes is being disrespectful or dishonest. I’m still trying to figure out where Gingrich stands on many issues as he has flipped and flopped far to many times. Ha. And they say Romney is unacceptable because he is a flip flopper.

          • garfieldjl

            Something said in the heat of a campaign, that said I still think he should apologize to Gingrich.

            I still say we have the winning ticket here:

            Gingrich/Santorum

            Problem with it being reversed is the fact the VP pick has to debate Biden.

            Gingrich would slaughter Biden so badly it would generate sympathy votes for Obama.

            Meanwhile, Gingrich seems to be able to tell the truth better than Obama can lie.

            Santorum on the other hand isn’t as good of a debator. With the money advantage in Obama’s court, this will come down to the debates.

          • jamesm

            much better than Romney/Paul lol

          • Scope

            First of all you are correct, Gingrich posted a diary about $2.50 gas. But, go back and look at the one and only comment I made on that diary. I talked about the liberals saying that drilling was not a short term solution. I pointed out that Steve Moore made the argument against the liberals when he said that if we started drilling 30 years ago, that oil would now be on line.

            I said absolutely nothing disrespectful to or about Gingrich on his own diary. OTOH, you have been a real jerk on this diary posted by a presidential candidate that you happen to not support. You have posted comments that in essence call him an idiot and a creep. And yes, you are obsessed with Gingrich. Too say that he almost walked on water is disgusting. Gingrich is not God.

          • honoraryintern

            … Well said.

          • WillWong

            my statement that Newt almost walked on water! Of course Newt is not God! Sorry if you felt that I was disrespectful to Santorum. It is hard for me to respect someone whose support came principally from the destruction of another (romney’s carpet bombing of Newt) and failed to acknowledge that.

            I know you are a passionate supporter of Santorum and you are a serious activist and i know you have not been disrespectful of Newt. Keep up your good work!

          • Scope

            and I cannot tell you how much you have gained credibilty in my eyes, which really is not worth anything much at all, with your response.

            O go back again to the “carpet bombing” or as I look at it as pressing the red nuclear button, from the Romney campaign as being one of the most despicable campaigns in history, as far as I know history. Alan Greyson might actually own that disgusting title. Romney has only gotten to where he is because of his money, 6 year campaign to buy who he needs to support him, and the organization that he has built off his Wall St. donors, who have no bottom to their pockets.

            I am not a die hard Santorum supporter, as he is not the most perfect candidate one could find by a long shot. But, based on past records, he is the best choice, IMHO, and that has been my personal “opinion” all along. It all comes down to a matter of how bad all of the candidates are, and picking and choosing what is the best you can live with.

            Thank you again Will, as I said, you are honorable, and I appreciate that more than you can know.

          • WillWong

            As energetically and as respectful as possible. When the time comes, we will unite around either Newt, Santorum, or maybe even Romney. I know some here have said they will never pull the trigger for one of the three. I myself may have said that myself. But the stark reality is that 4 more years of Obama will set this country so far back…..I shudder to think of the possibility.

            So thanks again and let’s get back to work! There is much to do!

            Cheers!

        • WillWong

          to show up! Are you counting those three posts as one or separately in order to bash me?

        • lynnotting

          Speaker Gingrich was the lead witness testifying against cap and trade in Congress. If he was not an elected official, then statements he made are not relative to his record. He didn’t do anything to implement regulations on cap and trade. Regardless, it is members like you who are responsible for discrediting Newt’s achievements to conservatism and the Republican Party. Whatever you think of him, his record proves he has done more for this party than anyone in modern history. Newt believes in research and development of alternative energy just so long as it is done by private companies and doesn’t interfere with economic growth. I am kind of lost as to what you are trying to imply anyway, but it seems disingenuous at best.

        • demsaresatanic

          your link includes Newt’s statements exactly to the contrary;

          Gingrich said in that debate that he didn

  • WillWong

    Rather than give Newt credit for the things he accomplished…including leading the last conservative revolution in 1994, drafting the Contract with America, giving the GOP control of the house in 1994, and so on so forth!

  • Vegas_Rick

    nt

    • Scope

      How many times has Gingrich taken more than one for the team? To bad it was the liberal/Democrat team.

      • Vegas_Rick

        I think we were both Perry supporters, so I know where you’re coming from. I could ask when has the good Senator ever done anything to reduce government spending as Newt did with welfare.Santorum, on more than one occassion, voted to expand government. I’m sure Newt did too.

        I am not a supporter of any of the remaining candidates. I’m still working on how I’m going to vote for Romney in the general and try to maintain my self respect at the same time.

        • littlehouse18

          ..

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            was bringing hundreds of millions of dollars of earmarks to Pennsylvania, making sure that unions didn’t have to fear federal right-to-work laws, and keeping Arlen Specter in the Senate.

            His entire Congressional career he showed no leadership on anything and was nothing but a back-bench junior Senator who did what he was told, when he was told. He has never been, and is not now, a conservative.

          • WillWong

            is a social conservative. His social conservatism was however compromised by his strong endorsement of Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey in 2004. But what the hack, even GWBush endorsed Specter!

            As the #3 ranking senator in a class that includes Bill Frist, McConnell, Specter doesn’t say much for Santorum though!

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            “social conservatives” advocate. Santorum is no exception. He is, to quote Erick Erickson, a “big government pro-lifer”. Same for Huckabee.

            There is NOTHING conservative about Rick Santorum, aside from the past few months when he decided he needed to sound like one in order to avoid having to actually get a job.

          • WillWong

            are not considered conservatives in your book!

            So pro-life, one man one woman marriage, home schooling and other family values are not considered conservative in your book?

            So instead of a three legged conservatism model, yours is two legged?

          • aesthete

            is that some people who self-identify as “social conservative” are more accurately termed identity politics voters, with that identity being the “Christian under constant assault”.

            Three-legged conservative who is pro-life, socially conservative, cares about the other legs of the coalition and prioritizes issues according to importance and impact = Jim DeMint, Mitch Daniels

            Culture warrior who doesn’t care about conservatism outside of a tendentious connection to Christianity = Rick Santorum

      • aesthete

        You mean, the one that doubled the size of government in 8 years, that more than doubled the size of the Federal Register (a proxy for increased regulations), that passed NCLB, Medicare Pt D (biggest entitlement expansion since LBJ), Sarb-Ox, reinstitution of ag supports, the highway bill, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, and much more? Not to mention a loser of a war that lost us the Congress and netted us BHO, and not wrapping up the one that we’d already won (OEF)? That team?

        Screw “the right team”.

        • Scope

          Speaking of Medicare Part D, Newt did in fact lobby (without registering as a lobbyist) for the passage of that legislation. “Pass the drug bill for the good of the Republican party” I’d say that saying you took one for the team was a very bad word choice, but Santorum voted for the bill, while Gingrich lobbied the reluctant conservative members of the Congress to “take one for the good of the party.”

          Newt was a very busy man once he left the House in 1999. He quickly went to work for Freddie Mac, actually just 6 months after leaving the House. He earned $1.6 million from Freddie Mac, a heck of a lot more than the $300,000 he mentioned in a debate early on. He also earned $312,500 from Growth Energy, the largest ethanol lobbyist group who pushed for continuing subsides, and new ones as well. Yup his Gingrich Group, and his Center for Health Transformation was very busy working to help sway policy positions, and unfortunately the positions he adopted and promoted were anything but conservative. The CHT confirmed that they did in fact represent healthcare insurance companies (GEhealthcare and Wellpoint were two that I know of), hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. He gave a speech at the Brookings Institution just last year pushing for one of the Obamacare projects, universal computerized medical records.

          As to Freddie Mac, in 2007 he gave a speech before a Freddie Mac crowd saying:

          “Certainly there is a lot of debate today about the housing GSEs, but I think it is telling that there is strong bipartisan support for maintaining the GSE model in housing. There is not much support for the idea of removing the GSE charters from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. And I think it’s clear why. The housing GSEs have made an important contribution to homeownership and the housing finance system.”

          “We have a much more stable housing finance system than we would without the GSEs. And making homeownership more accessible and affordable is a policy goal I believe conservatives should embrace.”

          There have been some conservatives that wanted to start reigning in Freddie and Fannie, all the way back to the 90′s when utter corruption by the heads at those GSEs was uncovered. Newt was opposed to those measures. Even W warned about the coming dangers that were looming with the continued models at Freddie and Fannie, and I believe McCain made some noises also, but to no avail. Gingrich may have been correct when he said that there was not much support for changing their charters, as not only Democrats, but Republicans as well, sat back and allowed the crash that came just a year after Gingrich’s speech. So much for a liquid and stable housing finance system. Read the article linked above, Gingrich also thought that GSEs would be good for healthcare policy, and his beloved NASA. Gee, I thought conservatives wanted to shrink the federal government, and let the free markets prevail, not have the government subsidizing and regulating the free markets other than what is absolutely necessary. In a debate Gingrich finally came clean when the info was out there, and said, “yes I am for homeownership for all Americans, and everyone should be for that also.”

          Talk about McCain/Kennedy, Gingrich said that if you have been here illegally for 25 years, those families should not be broken apart with deportation. His idea was to set up “community boards” to determine if local illegals should stay or go. WTH?

          Then there is the issue of a federal government gift of $1 million dollars for the first one to create moon colonies.

          Then there is the issue of healthcare coverage. Buy insurance, buy a $250,000 bond, or apply for government subsidies to purchase healthcare if you earn less than $50,000. Aren’t we currently fighting the government from forcing you to purchase anything before the SC?

          I’ve covered and linked to gobs of info above concerning Gingrich’s flip flops on Global Warming, and Cap and Trade.

          Yeah, you are probably correct that Gingrich didn’t play on the right team. Gingrich played on the team that controlled his bank accounts. He sold himself for bigger and bigger balances on his bank statements, and most often it had nothing to do with conservatism. He just isn’t Santorum, and that’s good enough for some.

          • aesthete

            as he was with the welfare reform bill: to get votes from recalcitrant members of the coalition. He succeeded in doing this. IOW, he did a little more than just voting for the bill.

            And what makes you think I’m happy about Newt’s lobbying for Medicare Pt D? I don’t think I’ve ever made a single post strongly in favor of Newt as a candidate during the entire electoral season, much less one that is uncritical of him or that attempts to cover up his many un-conservative missteps. “Don’t blame me, I was just a team player” is a horrible excuse for past behavior that me and my children will have to pay for in perpetuity, no matter who the person saying it is.

            I hope you and everyone else on RS understands that everyone currently in the running is lying through their teeth when they tell you what great conservatives they are. I would like for us not to delude ourselves about the conservatism of these folks, so that we can avoid another Bush. Forming objective views of our candidates is of far more importance than defending the guy that we find least execrable at present.

          • garfieldjl

            Think about Obama’s baggage for a minute.

            Newt’s mistake of agreeing to that advertisement, you know the one people are upset about.

            The person that would be trying to attack him on that would be the one responsible for the Solyndra debacle and $50 lightbulbs.

            Does anyone here honestly believe Obama could attack Gingrich on that without it backfiring on Obama?

            Consultant for Freddie Mac…

            vs.

            Used position in US Senate to prevent Freddie Mac from being investigated and regulated + used position as President to protect Freddie Mac.

            Does anyone honestly think Obama could attack Gingrich in these areas for instance without it backfiring?

            So all Obama would have is attacking Gingrich on age and family issues. In this economy, with gas prices this high, I don’t think people will care about Gingrich’s age or his family issues.

          • nepanyrush

            And, contrary to your assumption, a lot of people do care about Newts family issues.

            I know that both of my voting-age daughters, who are staunch conservatives, stated that the one person they could not vote for is Gingrich because of his 7-year affair and other such baggage. And they are conservative. What about the fence sitters.

            Newt makes Obama and Michelle and their two children look so much more ideal as a first family, then having the first lady be someone who cheated with Newt for 7 years and slept in Newt’s wife’s bed and a President. I actually think Newt was hurt greatly in the Florida debate when the moderator had the candidates talk about their wives. It was cringe-worthy among those with whom I was watching the debate.

            And then my wife keep pointing out that Newt’s wife look younger than his daughters.

            It will make a difference in the general. In the end, when everything is all muddled up before the election, there will be a significant portion who will decide the Obama family is more presidential appearing than the Gingrich family.

          • garfieldjl

            People are going to be looking at how they are having trouble making ends meet. People will care about the fact they are having trouble feeding their family, than the fact Gingrich has had marital issues in the past.

          • David123

            Michelle Obama will be out on the campaign trail praising Barrack for being a wonderful husband and father.

            There will be a lot more coverage of Newt’s ex-wives than there will of Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers.

            The Democratic minions will be out there claiming that Newt is a hypocrite because he led the VRWC effort to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about sex while he was having an affair himself.

            The “impartial” media will be only too happy to ask more questions like who would be the best first lady and why.

            Newt can beat Obama if he can keep the MSM and Obama focused on issues. However, Obama can win if he manages to keep the focus of the campaign on Newt’s divorces.

            Remember, Newt is a Republican. He doesn’t get a free pass if he’s not squeaky clean.

          • garfieldjl

            If that’s all team Obama can come up with, they lose.

            Seriously, think about it, we have 4 to 5 dollar a gallon gasoline, and they want to attack Newt over family issues? Gingrich would have a field day pointing out how the media is blatently supporting Obama.

      • lynnotting

        Yeah you are correct. Newt never played on the Republican team.

        • garfieldjl

          You don’t see coaches playing in basketball games. Their job is to be the leader.

  • Ann2012

    The interesting part about this is that Adelson who knows these candidates best (compared to our perspective of them) has determined that Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are closest to his ideology then is Rick Santorum. That alone will give someone a better insight into all three of these candidates

    • Scope

      and that Paul will likely ask his delegates to back Romney. Others are saying that Gingrich and Santorum are working together. So Sheldon Adelson, Newt’s biggest, and probably only high dollar backer hates Santorum. Would Adelson keep giving Gingrich all that money just so Gingrich will ask his delegates to back Santorum? Adelson’s support most definately is coming with strings attached. Adelson will get his monies worth out of Gingrich when Gingrich asks his delegates to back Romney. That I have no doubt about.

      • honoraryintern

        Rick can win the nomination outright today , with Newt quitting. On Wednesday he has to have Mr Adelson’s help..

        • Vegas_Rick

          he doesn’t need any help from Gingrich.

          The Patriots could have won the Super Bowl if those damned Giants would have just quit before the game.

          • honoraryintern

            …is not the same as winning. Map a path. Newt has won 2 states and less than 10% in the purple states. I’m just repeating over and over that math and Newtonium don’t mix. Newt will be remembered as the conservative spoiler, if he continues this path.

          • Vegas_Rick

            Can you read for content? Where did I say I was wishing for a Newt win?

            But you continue to act as if Santorum is a shoo in if Newt drops out. And maybe that’s true. But if that is what Santorum needs, he DOES NOT control his own destiny.

          • honoraryintern

            … Rick. If everything stays status quo Adelson (your boss by chance?) decides the nominee. I’m not ok with that outcome.

            The only method of bypassing the influence Adelson has purchaced is for Newt to drop and have Rick collect a disproportionate part of the remaining delegates because he is getting 55-60% of the vote, and winning outright the purple states. To the winner goes the spoils, even in the proportionate states.

            To more accurately state my point only Rick can get the nomination without an Adelson boost. Is that better?

          • Vegas_Rick

            You didn’t address my point. Stop with adhominems. Many people live in Vegas who have never worked in the casino industry. I am one of them.

            I bet you wouldn’t have a problem with ole Sheldon if he was raining money down on your boy.

          • honoraryintern

            …dollars in Feb. That’s the way I like it.

            Only Rick can win the president and not be an Adelson puppet.

            Which puppet are you pulling for?

          • Vegas_Rick

            You prefer snarky meaningless tripe. I have no more time for you.

          • honoraryintern

            Puppets, money, nomination. Hmm… We can all work on ‘reading for content’…
            So Mittens the kitten IS your guy…

          • Vegas_Rick

            Again, reading for content would tell you that I support none of these losers.

        • lynnotting

          If Newt quits, his supporters would split their votes between Santorum and Romney or not vote. Half of his supporters are fiscal conservatives. Then, Romney would definitely get the delegates to win. Newt has helped Santorum by not campaigning in many of states Santorum won.

      • jamesm

        Don’t believe that story from the National Review. (Romney backer)
        Gingrich will never support Romney in the primary after what happen ed in Iowa and Florida. Newt and Rick have said they are friends.Adelson is backing Gingrich through his Super Pac. I am out in California and they are running negative ads against Romney. I heard one yesterday. Perry and Cain support Gingrich. Gingrich will support Santorum over Romney. That much is for sure

        • Ann2012

          jamesm, if it

          • jamesm

            According to Newt, Adelson is very concerned about Israel. Adelson has also said he would support the Republican nominee. Newt is pro life. Romney claims to be. Adelson’s money is being used to attack Romney.

          • Ann2012

            jamesm it

          • honoraryintern

            …Adelson is supporting Mitt by keeping Newt in the race. Mitt has pulled 35% no matter the advertisements against. Check out my posts about Mitt and the letter to Gov Perry.

          • lynnotting

            Why not stay in it? After this election, he should just walk away from this party. The members of this party do not exhibit the character it needs to be a forceful movement in the politics of the future anyway. What happened to integrity and respect? I guess it is all about money and winning today.

          • Ann2012

            So why assist Romney in winning the nomination by splitting the conservative vote.

            Also Newt was disgusted with Romney

          • Scope

            whether purposely or from a lack of political acumen, Adelson has dumped money into the Gingrich campaign because of his distaste of Santorums social polices. From what I’ve read, Adelson is a big time pro-Israel supporter. Who has been the biggest supporter of Israel if not Santorum. Santorum has spent a lot of time studying the middle east policies, as well as the southern country policies, which are being infiltrated by the radical islamists. Gingrich doesn’t talk a lot about his foreign policy views other than to say he is all out for Israel. Gingrich has actually said little about his foreign policy visions, other than interjecting a comment with the days news. Gingrich has changed his positions on Libya, yet won’t admit his flip flop. It just goes to show that Gingrich is unreliable as to foreign policy, just as he has been unreliable with his positions, and as undisciplined as they come. I have no doubt that Gingrich supports Israel, but will he still be there as president, or will he be more focused on Moon Colonies and Green Energy policies.

          • lynnotting

            Now I know why Republicans will not have a candidate that can defeat President Obama.

          • jamesm

            Adelson backed Gingrich when Santorum was at 1% in the polls. Adelson backs Gingrich to win. Are you saying that he backs Gingrich because of Santorum? You have to be joking. Adelson and Gingrich have known each other for years. Adelson backs Gingrich to win-not because of whether he does or does not agree with a Santorum’s social issues. You make Adelson sound like a billionaire moron. Come on

          • jamesm

            Enough of the nonsense

            Regarding your February 16th article:

          • jamesm

            http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/02/19/adelson-santorum-gambling-gingrich-romney-israel-obama/

          • demsaresatanic

            of Newt’s strong support of Israel over the years. Evidence, of course, means nothing to the black helicopter crowd.

          • jamesm

            lol

          • honoraryintern

            http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/291235/why-newts-biggest-donor-so-opposed-santorum

            20 billion is not neutral to Rick…

          • lynnotting

            It has speculated by reporters as to why Adelson would continue to support Newt. In doing this, several theories based on the things reporters knew about candidates were put forth…naturally, in an article. However, it would seem kind of moot for that position to be pro-life since Newt shares this same view. The best I recall, it was Santorum didn’t believe in gambling….so, Rick would close gambling casinos became as good a reason as any…haha

            Why not just believe the reason Newt told reporters as to why Adelson supported his PAC? They have been close friends since his days in Congress and shared the same views on Israel.

          • jamesm

            ..

          • Ann2012

            I

          • jamesm

            reporter. Have you heard Adelson say that he would not support Santorum if he were nominee? Adelson has said he is not against Santorum

          • Ann2012

            That could be true but to support that you would need something other than opinion that would support the idea that they are all false.

            I think from reading through the stories in these links, it

          • lapert

            You are forgetting the money he gave to Americans Solution for Winning the Future – Gingrich’s PAC started in 2007. Which by the way was not primarily concerned with Israel or labor unions.

            The simplest answer is usually the best one – Adelson has been a fan and supporter of Newt’s for years and is most likely willing to give him money because of that alone. The concocted second and third degree strategies that others come up with, like so much else that passes for ‘analysis’ or ‘commentary’ among political junkies, is simply idle chatter.

          • jamesm

            My point is Adelson does not dislike Santorum and is supporting Newt not trying to have Romney win.

            http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/02/19/adelson-santorum-gambling-gingrich-romney-israel-obama/

          • Ann2012

            Even though I agree with you his first choice is Newt and he would like to see him win, but if Newt can

    • Xasteius

      The only difference between the liberals and the evangelicals nowadays is that the evangelicals believe in God, otherwise the evangelicals are just as hellbent on using government power to impose their values top-down. We can’t (nor is it in our job description) to establish the Kingdom of God on earth.

      While I do agree with the views of most evangelicals (anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, etc.), and that we should oppose anything that subverts religious expression, we should be more about converting people to our cause and showing them the love of Christ (and then society as a whole will turn from these things rather than banning drinking, dancing, and card-playing outright [a slight exaggeration, but as a former S. Baptist....])

      Is the Christian God so small that we feel we need to impose our will on society? I am willing to let people do whatever in private as long as they do not cross into the public realm. Equal access (i.e. Nativity scenes, atheist booth next to it, etc.) to public land should be guaranteed as long as respect for the other is maintained and it does not affect the public good and is decent (e.g. nudist colonies or sexual acts in public).

      Santorum is the worst thing that could happen for Christianity, and would merely represent 4-8 years of the clock swinging the their way.

      • jamesm

        So do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God?

      • Ann2012

        While I agree with part of what you wrote:

        • lynnotting

          sorry, the comment that says -where do these people come from – was for a different comment.

    • lynnotting

      You can’t make these things up. But, then again, maybe you can.

  • Scope

    84% reporting-

    Santorum- 53%

    Romney- 17%

    Gingrich- 15%

    Paul- 13%

    In Wyoming, 44% reporting-

    Romney- 47%

    Santorum- 34%

    Paul- 7%

    Gingrich “0″

    Two more contests, another 3rd place, and another last place for Gingrich.

    • Vegas_Rick

      Wyoming?

      • jamesm

        by congressional district. Proportional for the winner for the state. This means Santorum will win vast majority of delegates

        • Vegas_Rick

          no text

          • jamesm

            What a joke. The voter tallies are so small

      • Scope

        How are the Kansas Delegates allocated to candidates?
        ? 3 delegates (the state party chair and national committee man and woman) are allocated to the candidate with the most statewide votes
        ? 25 delegates are awarded proportionally based on the statewide vote totals.
        ? 3 delegates (12 total) are awarded winner take all in each congressional district.

        I copied and pasted that directly from the KS GOP site.

        Another interesting fact is that you had to be a registered Republican by Feb. 17 if you wanted to participate in the caucus today.

        • jamesm

          according to CNN.

          http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/ks

          • http://www.unifiedpatriots.com/ pilgrim

            Romney =10
            Santorum =8
            Paul = 6
            Gingrich =2

          • Scope

            Early on Romney was at 51%, and Santorum was at about 33%, and Paul was somewhere around 7%. Now with 84% reporting, Romney has dropped to 45%, Santorum dropped to 30%, and Paul increased to 12%. How could both Romney and Santorum both drop that much, with Paul not gaining the difference? Paul gained about 5%, but Romney dropped 6%, and Santorum dropped about 3%. Can someone please explain this?

          • sulmak

            but they were showing 40 to Santorum a few hours ago.

            From Kansas GOP website on delegate allocation
            “Each Congressional District shall be required to hold a District Convention (KSGOP Bylaws Section 3(A)) for the purpose of electing three (3) Congressional District delegates and three (3) Congressional District alternate delegates to the Republican National Convention”
            “Pursuant to Rule 15 of the RNC, at-large delegates and alternates shall be elected by the Kansas Republican State Committee at a meeting called for that purpose by the Chair of the Kansas Republican Party no earlier than April 24, 2012, and no later than July 1, 2012. The number of at-large delegates to be elected shall be twenty-five (25). The number of at-large alternate delegates to be elected shall be twenty-five (25). ”

            So 25 at large, and 3 delegates per each of the 4 congressional districts, and three apparently unspecified, which probably means they are unbound party leaders

            So obviously Santorum will get the 25 and looking at CNN’s own map
            http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/ks
            and wikipedia’s map of KS cong districts

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KS_district_1-108th.gif

            It looks to be highly unlikely that Romney even won a single district, as he only won a single small county with only 35 voters.

            So I do not see hw Santorum could get less than 37 delegates.

    • jamesm

      .

  • kowalski

    Where do you stand on Pat Robertson’s call for the legalization of marijuana?

    You and your wife have six children and have been featured on the 700 Club, discussing how you teach manners and morality.

    http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/interviews/RandK_Santorum_021804.aspx

    “One of my favorite quotes from the Founders is John Adams, who says, ‘The Constitution was written for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other kind of people.’ The reason he said that is that the more religious and moral you are, the less government you need.”

    What about stoned people? Do they need the government more or less?

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/03/pat-robertson-legalize-marijuana-and-treat-it-like-alcohol-/1?csp=34news

    As President, will you support the decriminilaztion and personal use of marijuana through your choices of Federal judges and other members of the judiciary? Will you support Pat Roberton’s idea to legalize marijuana and direct the Department of Health and Human Services appropriately?

    • Scope

      not a Congressman.

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister
        • Scope

          but don’t we refer to the last office held by any politician as to their title? Does anyone still call Palin Mayor Palin? There are many elected politicians that moved from the House to the Senate. Do we still call them Representative or Congressman?

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            Santorum calls Newt “Congressman” instead of “Speaker”. Sauce for the goose…

      • kowalski

        I know he was a Senator also and the title was an unintentional reference to the early part of his career.

        The question still stands. Personally, I have a hard time believing Pat Robertson getting up and talking about legalizing marijuana on any grounds except that Ron Paul seems to be getting an awful lot of votes by courting the “everybody can get stoned” voter bloc. Is the Senator a Traditional Values Conservative or does he think adults should have the freedom to toke up, maybe in the same house with their children?

        What’s next? 700 Strip Clubs?

        Seriously, since Senator Santorum has received so much indirect publicity through the 700 Club, I’d appreciate hearing what he has to say about the subject of legalizing marijana and, perhaps, other drugs that are currently Controlled. If he’s going to appear on the show with his wife talking about their family and their six children and John Adams opining about how the Constitution was written for a “moral and religious” people, I’d like to know where the Senator stands on this issue.

        Pat Robertson is a pretty important person — and CBN has been important in Santorum’s campaign, at least indirectly — and so far I haven’t seen much talk about it.

        • kowalski

          Drudge is reporting that Harrisburg, PA is going to default on its bond payments next week, to the tune of $5.3 million dollars:

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/10/pennsylvania-harrisburg-idUSL2E8E9DMS20120310

          What if Harrisburg decided that one way to raise money was to follow the example of Rasquera, in Spain, and raise cannabis for sale to pay off its debt?

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/07/uk-spain-cannabis-farming-idUSLNE82602K20120307

          Robertson saying what he said about legalization, it seems to me, opens up a huge can of interesting worms and it could be that President Santorum would have to deal with questions like this one: not just legalization, but what if municipalities decide to cultivate it to pay down their debt obligations?

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

            …despite state initiatives authorizing these efforts. This includes municipalities passing regulations authorizing the presence of clinics dispensing medical marijuana. We’re not talking legalization here.

            Unless the Feds change their policies, municipalities that would cultivate cannabis will face arrest and prosecution of the responsible individuals.

        • David123

          1. When the Federal government prohibited alcohol, it did it via Constitutional Amendment; no such amendment has been passed prohibiting marijuana.

          2. Marijuana would still be illegal under state laws unless states chose to legalize it.

          3. Banning marijuana hasn’t stopped its use, and there may be more effective ways to reduce marijuana use than legal prohibition.

          4. Legalized marijuana would probably end the Mexican drug wars.

          5. Legalized and taxed marijuana would reduce government deficits.

          Politically, since Obama has admitted to using marijuana, how can he criticize the Republican candidate for proposing to end Federal penalties for instate use?

          • westcoastpatriette

            Marijuana is just one third of the problem — the other two being heroin and cocaine brought in from Mexico.

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

            I see no upside to introducing this controversy into a Presidential campaign. There’s been much angst expressed at RedState about the danger of contraception overshadowing the important issues of economy, energy policy, etc. – image the media circus if pot becomes a topic of debate.

            And what constituency would change their vote based on this position? I can’t see it helping our chances in November.

  • lynnotting

    Gingrich was the lead witness testifying against cap and trade in Congress. Why does it matter what he did if he wasn’t an elected official? It doesn’t mean he believed it nor does it mean he did anything to promote it. Newt proves once again that his ideas are brilliant and if given the chance he will show all his critics they will in fact work. The economic growth plan that will produce energy, jobs and less debt seems to be scaring his opponents. It appears as if Santorum does whatever it takes to try to look better than Newt, even if means falsely articulating the facts. Hmm….reminds me of Romney…seems it should be Obama. Rather than defend his record, members of this party discredit Newt’s achievements just so they can pretend they are the true conservative that deserves this nomination. Republicans just don

  • steve962

    …in that it once again proves that politics is never quite as black and white as most people paint it. In this *one* area, I mostly agree with what Santorum is writing, particularly his comments regarding taking environmentalism to extremes. On the other hand, I’m far from convinced by either side of the global warming argument, and think that it only makes prudent common sense to do at least *some* of the things we are doing to reduce our impact on the environment, as both a just-in-case precaution and an example to the rest of the world.

    It’s a pity that I can’t agree with him on more things, however – and believe he’s exactly the wrong type of person we need in the White House.

  • garfieldjl

    Neither one I really have any inclination to vote FOR them. If Gingrich were to leave the primaries my inclination would be to vote AGAINST Romney, that would be the motivating factor.

    If Santorum or Romney were the nominee, my inclination would be to vote AGAINST Obama, not for either one of them. That to me indicates that neither one deserve to be our nominee.

    I have reasons to vote FOR Gingrich, I think he has solutions this country needs, I think he can go toe to toe with Obama, with Congress, with the Establishment.

    In my mind Santorum still has to prove there is a reason to vote FOR him, so far the only reason is to vote AGAINST Romney, which isn’t a reason.

    To be clear, I hold out hope that Santorum will prove that he can show that there are reasons to vote FOR him. Santorum’s issues seem an inability to define narratives and if he and Gingrich are on the same team, that issue would be addressed.

    However, I think Romney is a lost cause, I don’t believe anything that “do or say anything to get elected” Romney says.

    To be clear, as long as Gingrich stays in this he will have my support, I couldn’t care less what the polls say, I think he is the one that has the solutions and the ability to explain those solutions to the American people. I think Santorum could take up those solutions but doesn’t have the ability to explain them better than Obama can lie. However Santorum is preferable to Romney whom would probably continue Obama’s policies after being elected, laughing at us for being gullable enough to elect him.

    Only Newt Gingrich has caused the White House to enter panic mode while we are still in the primary. For Obama to feel threatened by a candidate that isn’t even the current front runner, I think we know who really scares Obama, and that is Newt.

  • Change Jar Conservative

    I’m a strong so-con, but at this point I don’t think you can win if you keep your focus on so-con issues.

    Just shut up about them, win the presidency and pick good judges.

    Talk about cutting the size of government and repealing Obamacare and you can still win this thing.

    • clintonformccain

      Santorum rode the Chirstian Coalition wave in the 1990s into office. That’s his base. That’s the only kind of politics he knows.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    It’s more of an indirect issue…

    Ask a liberal who believes in man-made global warming about the east anglia scandal (and any other notable abuses regarding data/politics) and you’ll get blank stares. If they have heard of the east anglia scandal (et al) and still firmly believe in global warming there is pretty much nothing to say that will convince them otherwise because they are to dogmatically entrenched, to stupid to change their minds or otherwise to invested in it etc.

    Global warming flip flopping is bad,but people can change their minds about topics. The question I would ask about the other front runner is did he flip flop the issue for politics? If the other front runner is flip flopping to pander then how can we trust him when he is elected to not flip flop back for convenience? It’s an old song and dance and I, personally, have been sick of it since I was young.

    The war on jobs and energy by the O’s administration is a better issue to go after.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth
    • jamesm

      may want to plant their support behind Santorum now.