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Every so often the leftish bent of the news media causes its fellow members of the Democratic Party to believe their own bullroar. Their own talking points are echoing from all their trusted news sources. This can put Democrats, especially Democratic Party office holders, into a kind of frenzy not unlike that of a dog chasing its own tail. They come to believe that they are on a sacred mission doing the people’s work, and that they are proceeding to great acclaim. Faster and faster they must run.

Once this phenomenon starts, the Democrats almost never escape before they do something profoundly stupid. And sometimes, profoundly harmful as well.

This is going to be one of those times. Stupid, and harmful, in great measure.

Many Democrats, including many editors and reporters, have come to believe that hundreds of middle-aged and older people — people with incomes and lives, and plenty else to do — have taken part-time jobs as rent-a-mobs to shill for insurance companies, or the RNC, or somebody. They think this because that is how Democrats create similar events: they pay college students or homeless people to show up at a certain place at a certain time to wave signs and put on a display for their fellow Democrats in the media, who dutifully report that the citizenry is outraged at whatever the Democrats paid them to be outraged about.

Causing the same sort of outcome among conservatives is more like herding cats. Few conservatives need your money, at least not the sort of pittance that would motivate a student or a street person. Most of them would be insulted if you offered. Having tried to organize many of these things myself, I can tell you that if conservatives care about a cause, they will show up in their own car with their own sign ready to give ‘em Hell. If they don’t care about the cause, nothing is going to get them away from their quite rewarding lives.

For Democrats to imagine that the people showing up at Town Hall meetings to oppose the Democratic agenda on health care are paid shills is a shockingly stupid blunder. And for the media to echo it back to them, giving Democrats in power the idea that they can send union thugs to beat up paid shills, is going to get someone hurt. I know the sort of conservatives who go to things like this. These are the old ladies who chase armed burglars from their homes with broomsticks. They are WWII and Vietnam veterans who do not take lip from anyone. They cannot be intimidated, and they will defend themselves. In 38 states they can “carry,” and some of them do. A 70-year-old woman threatened or manhandled by some 250-pound ‘muscle’ can reasonably believe that her life is in danger. I shudder every time I think where these videos of union thugs “breaking knees for Obama” are going to take us.

We are at a fine pass in this country when one of our political parties believes that the next correct move for them is to send goons to rough up citizens who disagree with them. To all Democrats, I plead: this is a very bad idea. I mean a really bad idea. If you can’t get ordinary voters to show up at your events, go hire some students, or some homeless people to represent you. Leave the thugs at home.

COMMENTS

  • kellymch

    That is exactly who I am. (well, not the 70 year old grandma part, but you get my drift.)

    • RichmondG30

      Most of us knew that Chicago style politics was about to come to Washington. Didn’t take long to see that “a new kind of politics” wasn’t going to be hand-holding, hugging, and singing spiritual songs together. It was Barack Obama, Rahm Emanuel, brass knuckles, and union thugs.

      “You don’t agree with what we’re trying to do, then fine. Let’s compromise. You shut your mouth before I shut it for you, and we’ll proceed with my original plan.”

      How do you Obama voters like your “Hope and Change” now? :-)

    • erp

      Well I am a granny and I’ll be 75 in a couple of weeks, but I still have a couple of functioning gray cells and agree with this article completely.

      Lefties always accuse us of doing what they do because they think it’s “normal.” Of course, they pay for their protestors and provide signs and do all the organizing, how else would they get anyone at their rallies, so naturally they think the tax payers coming out in droves to protest the disruption their lives and the destruction of their country are on someone’s — anyone’s payroll too.

      What’s difficult for the poor dears is they can’t figure out who’s paying and organizing us since all the big money people are on the left.

      The concept of people paying their own way coming together on their own dime is totally foreign to them

      I’d be glad to take one on the chin if it would help bring down the joker … and yes please do send this comment to the White House fishy things website.

    • BooBooKitty

      around by a complicit media playing their theme song 24/7. They have for many years played their roles in a protected bubble -safe from tough questions and accountability-a scripted dramatic comedy that is about to be cancelled by reality.

      This “mob” meme being repeated by the MSM is the last straw for me- responsible journalism has been long dead, but now they cannot even pull off skillful propaganda- it’s just blunt party line scripting from here on out.

  • CSUFBomb

    …especially your comment about the reflexively warm embrace of the media blinding liberals to real public opinion.

    The unconditional love of the MSM is a mixed blessing for Democrats. Sure, it gives them a home field advantage, but it can also boomerang when Americans remember their independent roots and reject an obvious sales job on bad policy.

    • $peciallist

      if they continue to manipulate ‘the news’ around their gossip show format…they are doomed, plus it makes our recovery that much harder

      I think Truth needs to make a strong comeback

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    about the claims Democrats are making that the town hall protesters are paid shills

    They think this because that is how Democrats create similar events: they pay college students or homeless people to show up at a certain place at a certain time to wave signs and put on a display for their fellow Democrats in the media, who dutifully report that the citizenry is outraged at whatever the Democrats paid them to be outraged about.

    100% agreement. They just can’t believe these people are doing something like this on their own.

    Sorry, Speaker Pelosi and others on the left who think this is “astroturf”. This is genuine outrage and your side caused it. But I suppose it’s logical for you to think that because your side has employed astroturf for so long now.

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    At the moment, the script appears to be to use the current turbulence as an excuse for canceling town meetings to insulate potential wavering Congress persons from actually discerning what is going on in their constituent areas.

    Why create more riots when you can simply shut down debate venues.

    • redneck_hippie

      insulation from reality could spell loss of seats (pun intended). Ignorance is not liberal bliss when the PResident gets his bill passed but the critters get sent home for good,

      • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

        …because this is where I see provocations and other disruptions being employed (along with a bought press) to discredit opponents or even to lead to campaigning restrictions – along with more repressive campaign laws that will disadvantage challengers. Or perhaps hate speech laws to enable political dissent to be labeled as hate speech and thus made illegal.

        In other words, at some point when the popular tide becomes an electoral threat, then I see Robert Hahn’s fears here becoming a reality – or perhaps even worse.

        Not a pretty scenario once dissent equates with enemy of the state.

        Right now, the Democrats want to get a health care bill passed at all costs – because with the inertia in our electoral system, even in the best scenario, it will be years before the Democrats could lose fillibuster ability in the Senate – and by then they will have changed the health care system so dramatically that the new alignment of forces will prevent reform or reversal.

        • redneck_hippie

          to subvert the will of the people as expressed in the public forum and at the ballot box are already being previewed. “The popular tide becoming an electoral threat” is exactly the point where I see the threat of escalation coming in, as in my comment above. We are already enemies of the state as per DHS directive and as the targets of neighborly email snitching and smeared as unruly mobs. There is more, much more to come if/when Ds realize they are no longer in the majority. Pitchforks can be laughed away. Minority status canot.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            We both agree on our perception of the Democratic strategy book.

            The only difference is predicting what tactics will be used when. And even there, we’re talking differences in degrees.

          • redneck_hippie

            week was the clip of O in VA, where he blathers about cleaning up the mess, and has the most ghoulish grin on his face, while turning his head from side to side like some kind of freakish puppet. I find it disturbing that our elected leader triumphs in trashing average American citizens and inciting his cultists to get in our faces and doesn’t want us to talk. This man is not only disgusting, he’s dangerous.

          • Scope

            the cracks in the practised calm facade are widening, as his words get more mean and nasty. No one expects that from any elPresidente, including The Won. I hope he keeps it up, as I love seeing him take himself and all the Liberal idiots down. He is losing it big time. He can’t take losing the adoration that he thought was his for the asking.

          • redneck_hippie

            for liberals and liberalism everywhere. No doubt. However, it galls me that this high and mighty jackass is actually, with intent, going around trying to scare old people away from town hall meetings. It speaks to his desperation, true, but what does it tell us about the depths to which he will stoop. That the consequences will be laid at the door of the Oval Office are small consolation. I do not want to witness what I am witnessing, as it is harming the fabric of my beloved country.

            Thanks for trying to cheer me up. I’ll try to concentrate my mind on the fact that this will eventually end the Reign of Error. Heh, I just coined a new phrase.

          • Scope

            n/t

          • redneck_hippie

            Others thought of it first.

  • spaghetti

    [Just the usual racist whining about Iraq from somebody who can't quite manage to see Middle Easterners as really real. Ehh. - ML]

  • penguin2

    Ironically, they are upset about the government health care they may lose if this monstrosity passes. Along with the citizens who are participating to retain their own private insurance, the elderly population is showing up to fight to retain their Medicare insurance.

    The Dems have used it for years to beat our side over the head-anytime there is an effort to reign in costs or make adjustments. They say we don’t care about the elderly. Of course not true. But this has always been the Dems fear mongering tactic. All of this has come about because the government got into health care to begin with. Forcing people over 65 onto Medicare rolls, making it illegal for them to pay out of pocket, etc.

    I also include our military insurance in this as well. That is my family’s, we’ll make our voices heard. If Obamacare passes, the people are realizing the severe hit their care will receive and of course, how a lack of care leads to progressive illness, disease and death.

    That will get the numbers down. Excellent post.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/08/07/medicare-betrayal-threatens-dem-party-viability/

      • penguin2

        Dynamic statement GC. I’ll comment here since I didn’t have chance to discuss on your diary yesterday. I think the threads flow together.

        The threatened loss of this key constituency has IMO, shocked the Dems. Only problem, union thugs going after elderly people with walkers instead of able bodied folks, doesn’t play well to the American public. Haunting images and all. Also, I love Krauthammer. he is very wise and has an excellent way with words.

        Now, now my affection for GC is not diminished. I even mentioned you in my Neighborhood diary (comments) section. You are the resident legal counsel we are all going to call when we are hauled away at these rallies.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          http://www.devinelawvista.com/

  • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel
  • izoneguy

  • izoneguy

    http://www.experiencecorps.org/research/factsheet.html

    This upcoming generation of retirees will be the healthiest, longest lived, best educated, most affluent in history of our country.

    The number of Americans age 55 and older will almost double between now and 2030 ? from 60 million today (21 percent of the total US population) to 107.6 million (31 percent of the population) ? as the Baby Boomers reach retirement age.

    Currently the fastest growing segment of the American population is 85 and older.

    By 2050, 40 percent of 65-year-olds are likely to reach age 90.

    • alamo294

      I still think these very facts are part of the reason for the end-of-life counseling that seems to get such a weight in the bill. I don’t think Obama WANTS to have all these people reach 90! Or even 80.

      If a bureaucracy or a board or a czar is the one to determine who is treated and who is not, us oldsters are in deep trouble.

      I like your optimism, however – I’ll work on seeing it in a more positive light!

  • http://web.mac.com/mayo99/iWeb/Site/VladBlog/VladBlog.html Vladimir
  • bs

    “Starting to believe their own bull****” is the way I’ve phrased it, and they are operating under a false assumption. They are grossly underestimating the concerns and anger of their constituencies and accepting the White House party line.

    It’ll be fun to watch the election returns in November next year and watch these poor, gullible fools go down and watch Kitten try to explain it away.

  • http://socratesbox.blogspot.com Socrates

    so, 5.

  • JX12

    We also need to be careful about not giving the other side anything to use against us.

    People must be able to defend themselves against thugs, but also keep in mind that whatever the Health Care dissenters do will be spun by the Democrats and the news media as OFFENSIVE, and may even land you in jail whether you deserve it or not.

    Bring video cameras to these events. When the thugs come out to do their dirty work, capture everything they’re doing and post it for the world to see. Put the lie to media claims that we’re the aggressors. Not only will it make them look bad, but It could also prove to exonerate the innocent. Don’t count on newsreel footage to do this for you. The media has clearly demonstrated time and again whose side they’re on, and it’s not ours.

    The Democrats are playing for keeps, and they will do ANYTHING to prevail, including having innocent people arrested in order to validate their claim that we’re just an unruly mob – if they think they can get away with it. Let’s cover our bases. Chronicle their every move, and make sure that – to the extent that we have control over it – we don’t do anything that could even remotely be interpreted by them to be a “false” or otherwise offensive move.

  • larryp

    and why does kitten get to explain.
    What is weird is that the Unions are protected class in Obama health care proposal. Those employees under a ‘collective bargaining agreement’ are exempt. I think the idea is to increase unions and, too, unions are Obama clients and vv.
    So the Union goons are there as security, They do not have another reason.

  • firedup

    Where’s that from, Robert?

    Also, while I’ve heard that the protesters are “shills” for big pharm, I haven’t heard anyone say they were paid. Who’s saying that?

    Thanks.

  • http://socratesbox.blogspot.com Socrates

    The second danger to Democrats is a political one. The opposition to their statist agenda has awoken. They are attempting to buy the people’s hearts with free bread, but that the bread is nothing like free, and then, too, it’s full of mold and smells of rat.

  • wordsarepower

    the mentality. “Breaking knees” is a metaphor here. (Correct me if I’m wrong, Robert:)) SEIU is using intimidation tactics in addition to real beat downs. One man who showed up at a town-hall in St. Louis was literally beaten and had to be taken to the hospital…some of the beaters were wearing SEIU t-shirts. Since unions traditionally support the Democratic party, one could say that they might be “breaking knees for Obama.”

  • Robert A. Hahn

    If you think it would be interesting or informative to have a detailed discussion of whether the videos that are plastered all over the web of SEIU goons beating up a guy, and getting arrested for it, precisely constitute “breaking knees for Obama,” i.e. whether the man’s knee was actually broken as certified by a board-licensed physician, I can think of several web sites where you could have that discussion, and where your question above would not be considered a lame attempt at threadjacking. This, however, is not one of those web sites.

  • jah666

    Thanks for the warning, Mr Hahn. It is to be hoped that the union thugs and other groups that are beholden’ to Obama heed this warning. Should these groups continue with these thug actions against the Obama Resistance that has been in attendance at the town halls of late, yes, more citizens will be hurt like that man in St Louis. These attacks will reflect badly on the unions, the democrats, and Obama. But worse, it will reflect badly on America. If there is a pattern of violence that develops, the Democrats and the Unions they support will suffer the damage, not conservatives. The protest planned today (SAT8AUG) at SEIU headquarters in St Louis is an example of the backlash that will result from this sort of thuggery. In the long run, violence perpetrated by these people will hurt THEM and their Democrat masters, not conservatives and moderates. Uncle Rush is convinced that ultimately Obama and his agenda will harm the Democrats in the long run. Are they stupid enough not to see that the violence will only add to the long-term damage of their party and these unions?

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    The Union THugs are Obama’s Blue Shirts.

  • Next93

    Too bad more people haven’t actually studied the origins and rise of the Nazi party.

  • janis

    They are there to threaten and intimidate, which is the opposite of security. Unless you mean they are there to “secure” Obama’s wishes by behaving like thugs, which is the Obama way of doing things.

  • redneck_hippie

    We all want Obama’s agenda and, as you write, his present tactics, to fail. At the same time we must show that we vehemently protest against the thuggery, for the good of all. But will Obama take your advice and will he be able to reverse the trend to punk violence at townhalls. My suspicion is we are not yet at the “I can no more disavow my union thugs than I can disavow my grandmother, my pastor, my terrorist pal, or my foreign dictators. I commend you for trying, though.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

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  • Robert A. Hahn

    I agree that the Democrats cannot win the ‘public perception’ battle here. Big bruisers with union brand names on their shirts terrorizing middle-aged and senior citizens is just not an image that will appeal to a broad swath of humanity.

    In the old days their buddies in the media would cover it up for them, but now everybody with a cell phone has a video camera and YouTube is everywhere. This “deep dish politics” isn’t going to cut it in the Internet Age.

  • BlueStateSaint

    Apparently, someone has called SEIU headquarters and told them, “If you don’t allow ordinary citizens to express their First Amendment rights, you will run square into the Second Amendment.”

    Unfortunately, I see that this is exactly where this is headed–a civil war. It will not go well for the union thugs.

  • Next93

    I’m surprised the thugs got arrested; several generations of Southern democrats worked out a process wherein the person *getting* beaten was the one hauled off to jail for “disturbing the peace.

  • erp

    Just put quotes around “breaking knee caps” and you’re safe from prosecution by the nit-picking brigade. Probably an English major who can’t get a job. Lots of them around.

  • Repair_Man_Jack
  • janis

    Watching the events over the past few days has been informative, to say the least. It reminded me of some of Achance’s diaries in the past which warned of violence to come. Except his diaries presupposed that the violence would come when the unemployed and disadvantaged finally realized that Obama wasn’t helping them out at all. I don’t think he predicted the scenario that is unfolding here.

    The Dems are shooting themselves in both feet and the MSM is helping to reload every single time.

  • janis

    And somebody is going to get killed if this keeps escalating. Obama just whips up the goons more by telling us to “shut up” since he insists that “we made the mess.” We aren’t going to shut up. So will he escalate things further? My guess is yes. He’s just that stupid and short-sighted.

    The Dems got just what they deserved in this man. Unfortunately, they will not be the only ones to pay a price for it.

  • johnt

    Violence, and larger scale, more sustained than anything heretofore seen. At some point normal people, anyone not a liberal, will start to fight back. This will precipitate an escalation by our fascist party, the Democrats, thinking in their insanity that as long as their vicious media supporters back them they can continue and increase the force that was always just beneath the surface.

    The Democrats are about to break out of the modest restraints of tradition and the Constitution, about to act out the classical totalitarian urges of aggression and assault. As long as these throwbacks to primordial savagery think they can get away with it they will continue.

    Obama? A violent, America hating man, totally exposed for what he is. And where are all the little liberals so worried about fascism under Bush?

  • janis

    making sure that we get fascism under Obama. The difference is that when they institute fascism, it’s just what we need and it supposedly would exclude them from its effects. Because fascism is like that you, you know, it can tell all by itself who needs its tender ministrations and who doesn’t.

    Those of us on the right obviously need it, as do those Dems who dare to question their overlords. Unions, Black Panthers, the MSM, not so much.

  • redneck_hippie

    The Ds still believe they can retain power in the traditional way because their propaganda and intimidation are still effective. Once the Obama job approval AND the personal approval polls stay well below 50%, then look out. While they believe they are still in the majority, I don’t look for escalation. Once they realize they are losing actual power, it could get very, very ugly. This is the preview. Whether The One decides to stop the tape and rewrite the script remains to be seen.

    I do agree with “…totalitarian urges.” I just checked out the book, “The Origins of Totalitarianism” from the library on Thursday.

    This could turn out to be the test that Biden babbled about. There is only so much time that we the people will allow The One to remain silent about the violence perpetrated by some of his supporters.

    Will he come out in prime time and Name and Condemn those of his followers who are acting this way? I’ll be waiting for the press conference and the reporter who asks the pre-screened and pre-approved question, a la Gates Incident.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    taking away a benefit the elderly receive.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I make the case here

    http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/08/07/medicare-betrayal-threatens-dem-party-viability/

  • leftylurker

    I was at Representative Dingell’s town hall in Michigan. I was appalled. But the people who were angry there were never going to vote Democratic in the first place.

    We can make it a friendly wager.

    =)

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    that could only be paid off after Jesus returns!

    But, the fact is that a large portion of seniors do vote democrat and have for 40 yrs, based almost solely on scare tactics re soc sec and medicare. I remember vividly old folks being told to shut up re religion and moral issues in dem party meetings lest they risk losing their checks if the gop got power.

    seen the polls lately on ObamaCare? Most of whom weren’t at Dingle’s meeting

    Now they see that Dems have put in writing their greatest fears.

  • redneck_hippie

    bother to read the bill.”

    And/or “majority of seniors exclusively read lefty rags and watch MSM.”

    That said, non-seniors will tip the balance: those who pay the bills.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I mean the new Gore climate change predictions for after he is dead. He did make predictions for the 2000s in his 90s Earth in the Balance book that didn’t occur.

  • Richard Mullins

    to print the bill and give an easy to read parts on post-it notes. If it’s easier to read, then then the Dems are DOA.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    failure of lib dem policies is also taking place.

    I don’t do “odds”. Things either happen or they don’t!

    This center right nation should be reflected in congress and the white house and it seems to me that the main reason the conservative movement didn’t acheive that is the non sequitur of senior voters not voting in larger gop numbers due to illegitimate fear tactics that can no longer be played.

  • redneck_hippie

    and I agree that America is finally waking up. My concern is that to change hearts and minds may require elapsed time longer than the next 2 (2010, 1012) election cycles. Perhaps my viewpoint is distorted by my proximity to the cradle of machine politics, gangsterism, race pimpery, property confiscation through corruption taxes…When I look around me at home, at work, in public I see entrenched liberalism as far as my eye can see.

    We are in agreement that if the Dems get this monstrosity passsed, the Dems will pay, eventually. It’s the eventually that really bothers me. Nobody wants The One to be The One for One (term) more than I do, and a down payment on that is getting rid of the Pelosi/Reid majorities.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    gives great insight as to why the Black Panthers were pardoned by the DoJ. I look for them to be called upon again somewhere in PA.

  • Dan McLaughlin

    The lefties sure are not taking a punch well.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    over here and weigh in, in more detail…

    http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/08/07/medicare-betrayal-threatens-dem-party-viability/

  • izoneguy

    drop & roll….

    When you show up at a rally, observe your surroundings.

    Always have an escape plan.

    And if women show up that look like men……..

  • leftylurker

    =)

    I followed your original post, but thanks for clarifying. That book terrified me. I remember having nightmares about Kansas being a desert and people living like nomads,

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    this

    Sturm asked the president, ?Outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody elderly, is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit, a certain joy of living, quality of life? Or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age??

    After joking that he?d like to meet Sturm?s mother and ?find out what she?s eating,? the president said, ?I don’t think that we can make judgments based on peoples’ spirit. That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are going to provide good, quality care for all people.?

    After Gibson interjected with a comment about how money may not have been available for a pacemaker, Obama responded, ?Well, and ? and that’s absolutely true. And end-of-life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we’re going to have to make. I don’t want bureaucracies making those decisions, but understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another. If they’re not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they’re being made by private insurers. We don’t always make those decisions explicitly. We often make those decisions by just letting people run out of money or making the deductibles so high or the out-of-pocket expenses so onerous that they just can’t afford the care.?

    Obama continued, ?And all we’re suggesting ? and we’re not going to solve every difficult problem in terms of end-of-life care. A lot of that is going to have to be, we as a culture and as a society starting to make better decisions within our own families and for ourselves. But what we can do is make sure that at least some of the waste that exists in the system that’s not making anybody’s mom better, that is loading up on additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care, that at least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what? Maybe this isn’t going to help. Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/03/dan-lungren/lungren-says-obama-would-have-government-require-c/

    and then reading the bill that says this

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/07/AR2009080703043.html

  • blooch

    felt exhilarated by their violence, to the point that the only thing better would be to have it officially sanctioned by The State. Kind of like a Civilian National Security Force.

    We are on track for another Kent State if sanity doesn’t prevail.

  • peg_c

    n/t

  • http://www.gordoncafe.com conteach

    I wrote about one aspect of his here –

    http://www.redstate.com/conteach/2009/08/08/seiu-trying-to-make-us-look-like-montgomery/

    We really need to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. There is one guy that showed up at the Tampa rally that I knew would cause a problem – and he did.

  • alamo294

    Perhaps seniors could provide a short-term boost for a GOP majority, but not one that could be counted on over the long haul. If this healthcare deal kicks in, this portion of the population is going to be systematically eliminated by the denial of the kind of life-extending treatment that has been considered normal, natural, and standard up to this point. Many older people have received wonderful medical treatment that has extended their useful and productive lives for years beyond what they would have had without such treatment.

    And now that treatment is going to be denied. As long as our Internet activity can be monitored (along with our street address), and we don’t answer the questions on the census form and continue to oppose the current agenda, we’ll have black marks by our names. And we’ll be the people who get the most thorough end-of-life “counseling.”

    To say nothing of the relocation/internment facilities for which the Army and National Guard are going to be trained.

    It appears to me that this plan means business when it comes to population reduction and control.

    And I haven’t quite come to terms yet with this reality, that if Obamacare becomes law I’ll be toast.

    I’m new here – could someone tell me what “nt” and “5″ mean? Thanks!

  • izoneguy

    I?m new here – could someone tell me what ?nt? and ?5? mean? Thanks!

    n/t is NO TEXT

    5 is like HIGH 5 – APPROVAL – I LIKE IT….

    But Seniors will provide a large voting block, America is getting older….as children start seeing mom & dad taken away in the night then things will get really ugly….
    The American birth rate fell 2% last year.
    Instead of looking at seniors like “Clunkers” they must
    be cared for and respected as they contribute to society.

  • alamo294

    n/t!