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Sarah Palin is the true RINO

She talks about a third party on Hannity when she knows that will give Obama 4 more years. Sarah Palin will never get independents and you can just throw out any chance of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Ohio if she’s anywhere near the ticket. These same so called Conservatives support Donald Trump who just gave money to Rahm Emmanuel in Chicago.

Mitt Romney is thr true Conservative. When he talked about individual mandates, he said it’s a states issue.  He’s right but Sarah Palin said she doesn’t like mandates on a state and local level. What would she do if she was in the White House and a state like Ohio did individual mandates in healthcare? Would she send in the National Guard to stop them?  States have mandates about all kinds of things and this is why Texas doesn’t look like Vermont.

In his announcement Romney talked about allowing states to handle some things that the federal government has taken over. This is a true Conservative position.  Liberals and Sarah Palin Conservatives like to overreach. They’re the ones that stepped in on the Terry Schiavo case.  A true Conservative understands that states have more flexibility than the Federal Government.

The same so called Conservatives who love Sarah Palin, think George W. Bush is this great Conservative. Bush was a disaster on the economy. He cut taxes but he did NOTHING to control spending.

Bush – 12 Vetos

Clinton – 38 Vetos

Reagan – 78 Vetos

12 Vetos??  This is in 8 years. Bush was a big spender who did nothing to control spending. You know how many Vetos Romney gave out?

Over 800!!

Many were overturned because of huge majorities in the Legislature. He vetoed things like raing the minimum wage and he got enough through to balance the budget and give Mass. a surplus.

We need a President that understands how business operates in a Global Economy and how we can better compete with emerging markets. I’m glad Romney talked about the Global Economy while Palin was eating Pizza with Donald Trump.

I’m glad Amy Kremer from the Tea Party Express just said on Fox that a third party is stupid and she will not support a third party because it will just give Obama 4 more years.

Palin and Trump are basically saying, if they don’t get their way they might think about a third party. This is shameful and if Palin is anywhere near the ticket the Republicans will give Obama 4 more years and maybe lose the House.

COMMENTS

  • luvnthebigsites

    lost last time around… Those reasons are just going to be amplified this time around. I suggest Willard Mitt Romney should put on his “hockey stick” free tee-shirt and go sit down… His bid for POTUS is over, (whether or not he or his supporters know it yet is irrelevant).

    My condolences.

    • gekster

      But that’s how we got Dole and McLooser.

      • rightwingmom52

        I just don’t want anyone else to think that.

  • romney4prez

    Conservatives gave us John McCain. We waited and waited for the Conservative Superman to come out of nowhere and McCain won by default.

    If people like Rush and Hannity would have supported Mitt when National Review endorsed him, then we would have stopped John McCain. When they realized McCain was about to win they all backed Romney at the last minute but it was too late.

    I remember when Fred Thompson was supposed to be the next Reagan and Rudy had a firewall in Florida. The silly conservatives waited forever to back a candidate and McCain won by default.

    Conservative Ideologues will give us 4 more years of Obama.

    • lineholder

      you’ll stop this divisive attack on conservatives NOW.

      • romney4prez

        There’s a big difference. Obama is a left wing idealogue. Bush was a Neocon Idealogue. The last thing we need is another idealogue in the White House.

        • BA Cyclone

          I am guessing an “idealogue” would need some original ideas.

        • lineholder

          the government is the solution to the problem. And like it or not, by his own actions, Romney has proven that this is the kind of approach he will take.

          We need a limited-government fiscal conservative if we are to have any hopes of getting out of this financial hole that our nation is sinking into. Mitt Romney isn’t for limited government. Period.

          • romney4prez

            Mitt Romney gave out 800 Vetos vs George W Bush who only gave out 12. Bush did nothing to control spending. Romney balanced the budget and there was a surplus in liberal Mass.

            Have you ever looked at Romney’s record at Bain? He was very conservative and he would limit and cut spending to grow companies like Staples and Dominos.

            This Romney is a RINO stuff is just silly and it’s just ideologues who ignore the facts.

            Mitt turned a 3 Billion dollar state deficit into a 300 million dollar surplus in liberal Mass. with overwhelming majorities in the legislature.

          • lineholder

            When a candidate says that they approves of ethanol subsidies, that tells me the person is willing to see government as being the solution. When a former governor passes a big-government healthcare program within their own state during their time as governor, that tells me that the person sees the government as the solution. In situations of that sort, who bears the burden of costs for those government solutions? The taxpayers.

            Look around you. Where is the current unemployment rate? What is the GDP? What is the rate of growth and development that is taking place in the private sector? Do you really believe that this nation can afford put another person in the WH who sees government as being the solution rather than a significant portion of the problem?

          • romney4prez

            Mitt Romney turned a 300 Billion dollar deficit into a 3 million dollar surplus. Have you ever read about Romney at Bain Capital or the Olympics?

            Romney gave over 800 Vetos against things like raising the minimum wage and he did this in the face of an overwhelming majority of democrats in the legislature.

            Romney doesn’t see Government as the solution and that’s just a statement that makes no sense when you look at Bain Capital, the Olympics and his time as Governor. You can’t love Government if you turn a 300 billion dollar deficit into a 300 million dollar surplus.

            The healthcare debate is a states issue and there’s nothing wrong with mandates on a state level. Would Sarah Palin send in the National Guard to stop states from giving individual mandates?

            How will Sarah Palin spur economic growth in a global economy with cheap labor? How would she seek to maxiamize trade deals to help spur growth in the economy? Will she just eat pizza and smile at the camera with Donald Trump?

            These are serious times and we need a serious candidate that understands the Global Economy.

            Romney/Rubio 2012

          • lineholder

            What’s more, I happen to believe that there are other candidates in the running who provide us with far more suitable long-term options than Romney will even come close to doing.

            BTW, I said nothing about Palin, so please don’t project any dislike you have of her onto me, thank you.

          • gekster

            then why did he impose the government mandated Romneycare on his state?
            Forcing the citizens to buy something they might not want.
            Isn’t that big government.
            And isn’t his former state in budget deficits partly beause of it.

          • SoFiMil

            Okay, so Romney doesn’t like big government. But he loves mega-government.

          • aesthete
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          • gekster

            3rd nt

          • Darin_H

            You’re just anti-pizza. Romney came out last night and said that he’s pro-pizza despite all the prior evidence (and governing) to the contrary. When he was governor he had to pass the anti-pizza legislation because it was such a liberal state, but he doesn’t want that anti-pizza legislation for the rest of the US. He firmly believes in each states’ pizza rights. But not with pepperoni topping, because that requires processed meat and processed meat contributes to farts, and as we all know farts equal global warming. As you can plain(ly) pizza see, Mitt Romney took a lot of deficit and made it into dough – with sauce and cheese.

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            Vote Quimby!

          • donnybrooke

            I can’t stand either one.

            Romney RINO. It has a certain ring to it. ^_^

            Congrats! I think you’ve managed to point out why Mitt won’t win the Republican nomination.

          • 6eorge Jetson

            nt

          • SoFiMil

            : )

          • aesthete

            in this thread is you. In point of fact, Romney is perfectly representative of the average GOP politician: that’s the problem.

            That surplus thingy was only for his first year (i.e., the only year where he even tried to cut spending). After that, it was “user fees”, increased spending, and structural deficits all the way. Was he better than Deval Patrick? Sure, but considering the various people and things that rank above Deval in governing ability (Donald Trump’s toupee, dessicated mules), I’m not sure you want to invite that comparison.

          • wilgolden

            you are making your case with?

            Dubya had a few Conservative ideas. By no stretch of anyone’s imagination (at least not this side of a leg tingle) is Dubya a Conservative.

        • mikeymike143

          it was right underneath the post where he said conservatives are silly.

          does anyone want to wager on when the ban hammer will be coming out? i will give an over/under of 48 hours.

    • aesthete

      Dem and indy crossovers voted in large numbers for McCain: that’s how we got saddled with him.

    • Finrod

      Pretty much the only people who call principled conservatives ‘idealogues’ are liberals and RINOs.

      So which are you?

    • williamjameson

      Voters decide the outcome. Opinion of the GOP was against the party that’s why McCain lost. McCain versus Romney, Mac was the better of the 2 candidates.

      I think you are a conservative poser. No one trusts your judgement but keep it up. We enjoy the cannon fodder, its usually more fun on Friday but hey I’ll take comedy any day of the week.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Notice how the author, in his/her attempt to promote his favored candidate, ended up just annoying a representative sample of the people that he/she is ostensibly trying to convert (that is, people who do not support his/her favored candidate)?

    Yeah. Don’t be like this author. Trying to make other candidates look small is no way to convince folks that your candidate is actually big.

    Here endeth the lesson.

    Moe Lane

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      with my opposition to Romney anywhere near the ticket any more than NH-whoever or the former 23Jan have to do with my opposition to Palin. Both of those are based on their experience and positions on various issues.

      What amazes me is that Darwin hasn’t taken these fools.

      • Remington_Steele

        I don’t care how cold you think it is here, please stop peeing in the pool!

        You will never, ever, ever convince most the people on Redstate to like Romney. You can help them tolerate him only if you can present logical evidence of why they should.

        Please note, you are not doing that. You are doing the opposite. You are only making it worse for those of us that do like Romney. Please listen to Moe on this matter. If you need to go hog wild and smack some other candidate up the side of the head, then do so on a Romney4Prez website or blog.

        Before you post here, please refine your ideas into coherent arguments that actually fly here. Above all, know your audience.

  • wilgolden

    if one slaps him in the face.

    Pro-Choice before he was pro-life.

    Gun Grabber.

    RomneyCare.

    Lied about an NRA endorsement. Indeed, his Democrat opponent rated higher than he did.

    Please.

  • romney4prez

    If he saw one according to Conservative ideologues.

    Reagan was a Democrat.

    Reagan gave Amnesty to illegals.

    So Reagan must be a RINO because he didn’t goose step behind Conservative Idealogues

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    • wilgolden

      just what IS your position with the Romney campaign?

      Just askin’, is all.

      ‘Cause, ya’ know, Romney just ain’t a Conservative. No way, no how.

      My guess is you are just a Democrat trying to find a way for another 6 – 8 million Conservatives to stay home on election day.

      But that’s just me. . .

    • Darin_H

      I do like the “goose step” bit though.

      Very statist.

    • Doc Holliday

      but he might pay you not to shill for him, give him a call.

      • Finrod

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  • traversecityconservative

    Comic relief on Redstate. Thanks for the post. I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time.

    • SoFiMil

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      • gekster

        and hardly any supporting Romney, and never any recco’s.

        But what the hey, he is fun to play with. :)

  • chbroussard

    I’d suggest you take your shovel, put it in the trunk, and drive on home. This discussion has nowhere to go but down……further.

  • snowshooze

    But as I am an Alaskan, I am a bit more aware of here record with Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share… a tax program on oil that has not been a help, Trans Canada Pipe-Dream, where she literally handed out $500,000,000.00 for a study to build a line program which thus far has netted absolutely nothing, and put up the Pipeline build/ Product sales bidding program open season, and we cannot even find out if there was ANY bidder…
    So yes, she has had a few huge wrecks. At least she raffled off Frank Murkowski’s Governors jet… that he absolutely had to have.
    Even Uncle Ted Stevens just flew commercial.
    Sarah isn’t perfect. I don’t really want her as President, and even though she has had some disasters…. I like her still.
    I hope she stays in the game though, she can light up a crowd, I thing she is developing more savvy. She was NEVER a cheap date though. She can spend a buck. Hopefully, she can spend them in such a way as to be a good investment.
    So, I have had a lot of fun picking on you, ( Never Personally though ) but in fact, you do have arguable ground, so there’s your ammunition to work with.
    But I see Sarah as basically a pretty darned good gal. She is pushing the right values, she is stirring our base, she brings up better and stronger points as she goes along, and has twice the guts as anyone else in the game.
    Yes, 500 Million… ouch. That cost us dearly, but it is still possible ( Admittedly, I do not think likely…) it may bear fruit.
    I’d have to say that overall, it was a far better investment than Romneycare, and as far as I can tell.. Massachusetts is pure dead weight on the rest of the country. The entire State is a financial sink-hole.
    And if it came to Sarah VS Romney.. she’ll run him and his cartop dog right outta town.

    • SoFiMil

      “If we (Tea Partiers) were real domestic terrorists, shoot, President Obama would be wanting to pal around with us.”

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/02/palin_if_tea_partiers_were_terrorists_obama_would_pal_around_with_us.html

  • Tbone

    Sure stinks up the joint.

    • snowshooze

      I was being generous, I know it isn’t smart, and not good for my personal popularity contest… but am not cruel to dumb animals, either.

  • Toby Calvert-Lee

    Rick Perry set a record in the 2001-2002 legislative session for number of vetos

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    At best he is a moderate who has leaned to the right in recent years.

    Or that could all be play acting, hard to tell because he is an ambitious lifelong politician.

  • aesthete

    Romney, the guy who gave us RomneyCare, who increased government spending astronomically after his first term, who believes in the need for government support for ethanol/ag subsidies, and who believes that government should combat global warming, is the “true conservative”?

  • romney4prez

    Romney isn’t an idealogue. I’ve noticed that most social conservatives call you a RINO if you don’t goose step behind their ideology.

    Romney’s record in business (Dominos Pizza,Staples), the Utah Olympics and Governor of liberal Mass. that had a huge democrat majority in the legislature, is very conservative.

    He believes States should handle a lot of things that liberals like Bush and Obama have allowed the Federal Government to handle which has increased the size of Government. A true Conservative understands the role of the States and that’s why Romney is right in the healthcare debate.

    Has he changed positions? Yes and so did Reagan who used to be a democrat and he gave amnesty to illegals. Is Reagan a RINO?

    I want a pragmatist in office because an idealogue already has all the answers regardless of the facts. We’re facing a Global Economy and Emerging Markets throughout the Globe and we need a President like Mitt who knows how business operates under these circumstances.

  • Xasteius

    And I won’t tote RomneyCare as a success….

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  • romney4prez

    How will Sarah Palin leverage trade deals to give us the most growth in our economy? How will Sarah Palin grow the economy when banks are not lending money? How will Sarah Palin compete witth the growing Global Economy and Emerging Markets throughout the world?

    We need a President who understands how to spur growth in the economy so we can compete in a Global Economy. Mitt said his interview with Hannity, it’s not just about cutting spending because you have to spur growth in a Global economy the same way Mitt did with the Sports Authority, Dominos Pizza and Staples.

    How will Sarah Palin accomplish anything when she doesn’t understand what she’s talking about just like Obama.

    It’s not the Economy Stupid, it’s the Global Economy, Stupid!

    Romney/Rubio 2012!!

  • gekster

    You Palin haters are really going all out.

    How much do you support Romny’s stance on global warming.
    How do you respond to him saying man caused it, and we must do things to stop it.
    Please, wise one, tell me.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    than with Romney in the Oval office.

    And, romney4prez, you’ve done what I thought was impossible just days ago. You’ve made the PalinWorshipers and Paultards BOTH look like reasonable people.

    And, Rubio is way too smart to run with either Romney or Palin. And you’re too stupid to last long around here.

  • aesthete

    I would much rather my President used his time on eating pizza or banging starlets than “fixing” the economy. The last 50 years have shown problems with doing too much, not too little. A stable, minimalist regulatory and tax structure that allows for stable property and economic rights has proven itself to be more than sufficient to allow for citizens to prosper. In the context of government, it *is* mostly about cutting spending, eliminating redistributive programs, removing artificial impediments to starting and maintaining business, and providing public goods like infrastructure and the military at satisfactory levels. (There’s also a state role for education, but that’s neither here nor there.)

    As for the emerging economy (no capital letters) is something to be applauded, not feared. It is the fruits of the labors of Reagan and other Cold Warriors who, in toppling the USSR, allowed countries to get out from under its claws and start making things.

  • Doc Holliday

    than listen to Romney talk blaming people for the weather.

  • azaeroprof

    When you have mbecker defending the PalinWorshipers, that should tell you how far off you are in your diary!

    And seriously becker, your impression of the Palin folks is skewed by the fact that her supporters are the few enthusiastic enough to hit RS 18-24+ months before the election. Wait until the Romulans come out in force and are joined by the emotional new converts to other GOP ’12 candidates and you’ll probably find out the Palin folks aren’t all that bad, or are at least not unique! :)

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    the Worshipers are every bit as bad as the Paultards and always will be. This guy is just worse.

    And you are a Palin supporter that anybody with at least a double digit IQ respects.

  • aesthete

    I don’t think it quite holds water — one cannot simultaneously hold that Palin draws support merely for who she is, and that her base of support is equivalent to that of other candidates. Everyone has their crazies supporting them, but Palin and Paul’s tend to be particularly noxious (present company excluded, of course).

  • azaeroprof

    I guess I didn’t make my point very well. I was just saying that Sarah has a stronger emotional following that brought them out earlier. But as we get closer to 2012, we’ll start to see more of these types supporting other candidates as well, and that many of them will be just as annoying as you find the SarahShriners and Paultards (as illustrated by the author of this diary, for one).

    BTW, sometime I will write a diary giving my argument for why these “shriners” aren’t just ok for a candidate to have, but are actually vital to any winning candidate. They are just annoying if you are trying to discuss in the theater of ideas and they aren’t playing by the same rules. And as much as we enjoy nice, intellectual conversation at RedState, remember that it is not just an “idea” site, but is also a site committed to political action and advocacy. Thus, the emotional types aren’t as out-of-bounds as we might like to think.

  • Darin_H

    I had all but forgot about the Romneybots last time around, looks like the pitchers and catchers just reported for Spring Training.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    Your synopsis looks promising.

  • acat

    because Chicago-style pizza needs a knife and fork! (and because I’d much rather talk with someone who’s worked for a living than Romney’s silver spoon world…)

    Of course, if I had a choice, I’d rather have pizza with Herman Cain.

    Mew

  • Doc Holliday

    yet I am not a pizza ideologue, I love it all, if it is made right :)

  • 6eorge Jetson

    power of the Central Federal Government.

    That doesn’t make him a conservative. He still loves authoritarianism, just at the state level.

  • bk

    Is there one for Romney zealots? Mittwits? Romulans? Moroms?

  • gekster

    Like I say, I forgot who coined it.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    nt

  • mikeymike143

    people i have ever seen. than this troll nt calls sarah palin a RINO. and mitt romney a true conservative.

    and by the way, being compared to a paulbot isnt a compliment.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    there’s a pretty solid baseline. The Paultards, the WarmingMitts, and the Shriners (the jerks with SarahShrines in the corner of their basements) all have one thing in common: their object of worship – they don’t view them as merely a “candidate” – has never done anything even close to wrong, has never made a mistake in thought, judgment or action, and is the object of unequaled and unfounded venom from the media, the left and those on the right who choose to not don a black robe on the appropriate evening and participate in the worship service. Additionally, their OoW is the only TrueConservative and is ReaganReincarnate.

    In short, it’s a tight club of raving lunatics.

  • bk

    *snicker*

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    .