It seems Bill O’Reilly didn’t think the outburst by Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) during President Obama’s “speech” was warranted. Apparently, the reason for Wilson’s outburst, Obama’s constant lying throughout the rant “speech” culminating in the mendacity that the health “reform” the President wants wouldn’t include illegal aliens, wasn’t good enough for O’Reilly. One of the people O’Reilly had on to discuss this was Ann Coulter. Watch:
This is why I love Ann Coulter as she is entirely spot on.
My favorite part is where O’Reilly believes that Obama isn’t lying when the President said that illegal aliens won’t be a part of his “reform” and that federal funds will continue to be unavailable for abortions. O’Reilly believes this for three reasons: because Obama says so, because the opposite of both items aren’t in any of the current iterations of the bill, and because the final bill isn’t out yet. Coulter provides two simple reasons why Obama and the Democrats are lying, which is pretty much ignored by O’Reilly: Democrats have already voted down amendments that specifically keep illegal aliens from being covered under health “reform” and disallow federal money from being used to fund abortions, and the Orwellian language of such legislation will give the administration and the courts the go ahead to do just the opposite of what Obama said in his “speech”.
O’Reilly is also still stuck in the notion that the current regulatory regime of health insurance is required to keep honest the companies who sell these products, and Coulter beats him over the head with it, reminding the Factor host that it was regulators who did nothing to stop Bernie Madoff’s scam. O’Reilly tried to interject that the regulators were part of the Bush administration, and Coulter responds that this fact has nothing to do with her argument. Coulter proceeds to explain that it is the natural progression of competition that will induce health insurance providers to do everything the statists say they want, at a reasonable cost to the rest of us, and without an overbearing bureaucracy interfering.
I’d like to take it a step further. Obama, the statist Democrats, and the leftists drone on endlessly how “private” health insurance doesn’t cover those out of work, those who get sick, blah, blah, blah. Yet, none of these individuals ever bothers to mention, because it destroys their argument, that it is the regulatory regimes of the various levels of government that have caused health insurance providers not to cover certain people. Think about it; insurance is purchased to cover when an event leads to the need to reimburse someone or replace something that will cost a great deal of money, money most of us don’t have available. But with health insurance, the states dictate that just about everything, with very few exceptions, will be paid for by those providers, not the individual purchasing the insurance. Worse still, the same laws creating the regulatory agencies allow insurance companies to negotiate prices, but not the insurance purchasers, and allow insurance companies not to cover certain people who really need it. In any sense of the phrasing, a free market of health insurance products doesn’t exist. Anyone complaining about how the “free market” is the cause of these problems is either too stupid to understand the free market, or lying about it.
True reform would be to strip this overbearing set of regulations out to allow competition for all the potential health insurance products that could come out, or actual competition for health care services and products, lowering prices so that the vast majority of individuals could afford to pay for them themselves. This could be done without the federal government spending one dollar more than necessary to pass the legislation to end the regulatory regime. What the statists call “reform” will require all Americans to pay more for health care, whether it’s in the form of out-of-pocket expenses, in the form of higher insurance premiums to those politically connected health insurance providers that remain in business, and in the form of higher taxes to cover the increasing the costs of an ever-expanding federal bureaucracy.
Obama lied constantly during his speech. Wilson, who was right to call the President on these lies, and who should never have apologized, was telling the truth.

Here's the secret Kids...Oreilly isn't a Conservative...
AceInTX Friday, September 11th at 1:18PM EDT (link)He LOVES government regulation of everything from the financial sector “greedy Oil Companies and big oil” etc
He’s great when he’s right…but man can he be an ass when he’s wrong
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I know Bill O'Reilly isn't a conservative and loves regulation
scipio62 Friday, September 11th at 1:55PM EDT (link)But I would have figured, knowing that one of O’Reilly’s pet issues is illegal immigration, and his many years of reporting on politics, he would have seen Democrats’ BS about this. Alas, ’twas not to be.
Thanks for the recommendation, and to the others as well.
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Nah, he is
The_Gadfly Friday, September 11th at 5:43PM EDT (link)an ass either way, it’s just that he’s a USEFUL one when he winds up on our side. I finally figured that out when he went on his anti-SUV kick.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching his show occasionally and hope he stays on the air for a long time, if for no other reason than he drives liberals as nuts as Rush does.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
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If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
Check out his interview of Beck where he thinks there is nothing wrong with having Van Jones as a Czar
AceInTX Friday, September 11th at 1:37PM EDT (link)Oreilly isn’t afraid of Communists at the highest levels of the executive branch because the communists aren’t a threat to us any more?
How are they not a threat if they control huge regulatory arms of the federal government? I mean…somehow Oreilly misses the obvious when it is smacking him right between the eyes!
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"HE" being Oreilly...not beck nt
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Wow, Bill Reilly is dense
aesthete Sunday, September 13th at 10:29PM EDT (link)I’m about the most “nuanced” guy you can find, but when a man is self-described as a Communist, put in charge of a large amount of funds, and believes that 9/11 was a hoax, you can’t explain it away as the workings of bureaucracy.
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I knew Oreilly could be incredibly stupid at times...but that exchange did it for me...
AceInTX Monday, September 14th at 10:39AM EDT (link)My blood pressure shot up and the room started spinning I was so mad and stunned by the enormity of his ignorance!
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Pretty much
aesthete Monday, September 14th at 3:19PM EDT (link)His “I’m right, you’re wrong, nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah” attitude was also pretty grating
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O'Reilly is a narcisstic pompous
louisiana Friday, September 11th at 1:52PM EDT (link)@$$ who “prides” himself on being an independent. I used to watch him until he got too full of himself & realized he really is not informed on most issues & contradicts himself. I did watch one show where he was trying to defend his position holding up Obama as a role model for kids (in a USA article, I didn’t read). Apparently he received some very negative feedback for that.
I watch Oreilly because he won't allow people to duck and he'll call them on their inconsistancies...
AceInTX Friday, September 11th at 2:29PM EDT (link)I like the show and I like the man…but it just drives me nuts when he can’t see what sets him off about everyone else when it rears it’s ugly head in him!
I was seriously on the verge of a heart attack when he had the exchange with Beck the other night…(see my post up thread). I’m like…are you kidding me…and it showed in Beck’s face too…he was confused trying to figure out whether Oreilly was playing Devils advocate and he looked even more confused when it sunk in that Oreilly really is squaring the totally inconsistent ideas that you can have a communist in one of the highest federal positions in the executive branch but that they couldn’t pose a threat to you. Who cares if they have all the regulatory power in the executive branch over you…they couldn’t possibly be a threat…LOL…I mean…really Billy!
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This is when O'idoit lost this viewer!
RottDawg Friday, September 11th at 2:38PM EDT (link)He is so full of himself. He is Ted Baxter. Beck will eventually own his prime time slot.
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Levin has one of those voices that I can't listen to for very long because it's like a woman nagging when I'm trying to concentrate on something...
AceInTX Friday, September 11th at 8:38PM EDT (link)But he cracks be up…I love the guy and the way he puts things…ROFL
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Women of RS...he's all yours
SteveLA Friday, September 11th at 8:44PM EDT (link)No need to be gentle.
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LOL...I'm not saying anything about Women...just NAGGING women...LOL nt
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Reminder...when in hole, stop digging. (nt)
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Competency over ideological purity
For once Steve you are absolutely right...Here's the scaple...
AceInTX Friday, September 11th at 9:09PM EDT (link)you are free to pick the appropriate female to emasculate me!
LOL
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Waiting on Jaded...she does pretty good work (nt)
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Competency over ideological purity
If it must be...Jaded's the gal for the job...LOL nt
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man you don't want to go down that road...
DONTREADONME Friday, September 11th at 10:34PM EDT (link)trust, me check the archives use my username and dave letterman. man, she blasted me.
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Duck and cover, Ace! nt
Achance Friday, September 11th at 9:20PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
help a brother out would ya? LOL nt
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Ace- I knew what you meant
Scope Saturday, September 12th at 8:17AM EDT (link)when you said “nagging women”, such as in Hillary - I can still hear her screeching “I’m sick and tired of” blah blah blah. As a female, I am not insulted by your comment, however, there are plenty of males who can nag the crap out of you. Admit it!
LOL...thanks scope...
AceInTX Saturday, September 12th at 5:44PM EDT (link)There’s just something about the high pitched voice that I’m getting at…Hillary fits that bill perfectly…LOL
Of course my wife is a saint and I wouldn’t include her in that…nor any of the gals here since I can’t tell what their voices sound like
I think I’ll leave it there before I dig a hole…
:>)
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Ace, how could you?
penguin2 Friday, September 11th at 8:50PM EDT (link)Wait, don’t answer that…I don’t want to disturb your concentration!
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LOL...Let's not play the victim Lass...I said Nagging Women...let's not ignore the discriptor aye? nt
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Thanks Steve, I'll take the first shot ...
louisiana Friday, September 11th at 8:52PM EDT (link)Ace…woman nagging? You’ve just pooped in your post toasties and I’m being nice.
As in...not all women are naggers...LOL nt
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Helen Keller?
Putter Friday, September 11th at 10:21PM EDT (link)Maybe??
Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…
LOL...you're on your own there pal! nt
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I'm certainly no nagger.......
marshmom Saturday, September 12th at 7:57AM EDT (link)I figured out a long time ago you can get more done with compliments and ego-boosting than with nagging. heehee.
Are you married...LOL nt
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Ace, it could be in woman's nature to be helpful...
penguin2 Monday, September 14th at 10:48AM EDT (link)to our menfolk. Don’t disillusion me now; all these years I’ve thought I was “helping” my husband. But if you asked him, he would have to take the 5th. LOL
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LOL...I know
AceInTX Monday, September 14th at 1:47PM EDT (link)and I’m happily married to…I asked that jokingly…but marshmom makes an important point that Women would do well to learn concerning men…
and I say this to be helpful to my sister bloggers…but men will move heaven and earth to receive praise from their beloved mates….and they shut down mentally when continuously being beaten about the head with negative comments and constant screeching to stop doing one thin or another and get something or other done their wives want done.
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O'Reilly is a pompous arrogant A$$!
Scope Saturday, September 12th at 8:27AM EDT (link)I rearely watch his show, I wouldn’t give him the ratings. I watched him last night because Glenn Beck was going to be on. O’Reilly was his typical self, he cuts everyone off, never lets anyone make their point, and speaks right over his guests. He knows Beck is on fire, is gaining a terrific following, and is a rock star to many. He couldn’t allow Beck to say anything that would usurp his number 1 rating status. I agree with the person above who said that Beck will take over O’Reilly’s prime time spot. O’Reilly is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, he should stay away from any political talk, and go back to advocating for abused kids, and runaway judges. I gave up on him when he came out supporting Global Warming.
O'Reilly doesn't understand economics or business
Fred Maidment Saturday, September 12th at 12:35PM EDT (link)If he did, he’d understand that pricing is only one method of competition.
Apple computers are much more expensive that PCs. Apple doesn’t compete on price, it competes on a) stability, b) built-in features and c) perceived “coolness.” If price were the only consideration, the only computer brand people would buy is Acer.
Similarly, if it became public knowledge that a health insurance company denied promised care to paying customers, other insurance companies would woo-away customers, even though their price might be higher.
This is why most businesses are inherently honest: Dishonesty eventually becomes public knowledge, and people shun that business.
I would ask Mr. O’Reilly what kind of car he drives. I’ll bet it’s a luxury car. Was price his only consideration? Of course not. Whatever he drives, he chose it for a multitude of reasons, probably including safety, performance, style and perceived “coolness” or cache.
He ignores his own economic behavior (choosing something based upon its utility, not its price) while scoffing the idea that competition ensures that very utility.
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Silly you
BrianGarst Sunday, September 13th at 2:59AM EDT (link)O’Reilly is “looking out for the folks!” He doesn’t have time for your namby-pamby economic theory.
In case it isn’t obvious, I have little time for populists when they decide to be willfully ignorant. O’Reilly likes to do that at times.
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mbecker908 Sunday, September 13th at 1:03PM EDT (link)At least he's consistent
whoframedrudy Sunday, September 13th at 2:48AM EDT (link)O’Reilly panned Jim Webb when he was ‘uncivil’ to Bush, so at least he’s consistent with Joe Wilson. I supported both Webb and Wilson. Unlike the Daily Kos replicants who said Webb should have punched Bush’s lights out — but pulled their usual online communist kult viral stunt against Wilson that has backfired. How sweet it is!
Hey Joe Wilson, with your million plus in donations, please be sure South Carolinan’s know your opponent’s money comes from that communist cesspool Daily Kos.
By the way, ‘if he lies, he loses?’ Has O’Reilly been living on Mars?
You’re gonna need more than one lesson. And you’re gonna get more than one lesson.
I'm no fan of O'Really
diakrioi Monday, September 21st at 1:10PM EDT (link)He says a lot of stupid things but they are usually far apart. Lately he has been on a roll.
The “if he lies, he loses” stuff is about the stupidest thing I have heard BillO say. Anyone with a little knowledge of recent political history knows that the worst abuses of new legislation come long after the people who put it in place are gone. The healthcare bill would not take effect until after the next presidential election. That timeline is by no means arbitrary - the Obama administration knows that the new system will be despised and they don’t want to go into an election with that millstone around their neck.
Sometimes I have a hard time deciding if BillO is being willfully ignorant or is just plain stupid. I think it is the latter. I think he has handlers that keep him on track most of the time but he goes into the weeds when he goes against their advice. That is pure speculation but the explanation would fit his pattern of behavior.
I've gotten the impression
UpLateAgain Sunday, September 13th at 12:57PM EDT (link)That The Great One REALLY doesn’t like Glenn Beck either….. mostly in snide references to Beck’s “Common Sense”. Anybody know why in particular? Seems to me they would be natural allies.
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O'Reilly was right about one thing...
NotSoBlueStater Monday, September 14th at 11:32AM EDT (link)Over the past couple of days, the Democrats have backtracked somwhat on abortion and illegal aliens. O”Reilly is right to say that Obama isn’t a liar if and until there’s a piece of legislation on his desk and he signs it.
Do I think he’d sign a bill that doesn’t address those issues completely? Yes. But it’s still possible, hypothetically anyway, that the president could insist that those provisions be strengthened before he signs.
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What turnip truck did you fall off of?
Flagstaff Tuesday, September 15th at 2:02AM EDT (link)Were you right next to O’Reilly at the time?
IF the Democrats have backtracked on anything, it’s because people across the country have been vocally and boisterously and persistently protesting that non-existant bill.
If you and he insist “there is no bill,” just what exactly did the Democrats say they were going to change?
Are we supposed to wait until the Bill becomes Law before pointing out its shortcomings and those of its promoter? Do we have to wait until it’s out of the House?
The Democrats have been playing bait-and-switch with that ploy for weeks. Call them on something and it’s “The bill doesn’t say that.” Show it to them in HR 3200 and it’s “That’s just one bill” or “That really isn’t a bill, yet.”
**”Do I think he’d sign a bill that doesn’t address those issues completely? Yes.”**
When he says something you know isn’t, and can’t possibly be, true, with intent to deceive, that’s what makes him a liar. Get it?
O’Reilly just wants to play like he’s the biggest, fairest guy on the block, when in fact he’s just one of the big ones, but not too smart. He even admits it himself.
Kudos to Joe Wilson. If he hadn’t spoken “truth to power” nothing would have changed, and the public would be less smart than they are now.
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NotSoBlueStater- That's faulty thinking
Scope Monday, September 14th at 11:46AM EDT (link)Obama has been lying about most everything. So, does that mean that unless he signs his name to something than it isn’t lying until then? Last I knew, lying didn’t require a signature. O’Reilly has strectched himself so far out on a limb trying to back Obama, he is now tettering on a twig.
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redpens Monday, September 14th at 6:58PM EDT (link)O’reilly needs to call Obama what he really is, a Statist and a liar. Ann made Bill O look like a buffoon. O’reilly tries to be so fair to Obama, you’d swear he voted for him. Ann has it right, government regulators were asleep at the wheel when Madoff ran his charade. Government is incompetent, period
For some reason O'Reilly has phoned in the next four years.
archer52 Monday, September 14th at 10:50PM EDT (link)All people are human and have weakness. For some reason Obama got to O’Reilly and he is phoning in the next four years. He is supporting Beck, but letting him take the lead. Maybe to avoid being called a racist or maybe O’Reilly is little more left in some areas than we think. Healthcare is one of them.
I think somewhere around the time that woman made the harassment accusations he went a little soft. Maybe he lost the stomach for the fight.
O'Reilly
avgamerican Tuesday, September 15th at 12:44AM EDT (link)O’Reilly’s show is based on not taking a side even when you know the truth. His pride is his weakness. O’Reilly is a conservative, but strategically pretends to be an independent on issues he sees as a threat to him. Glenn Beck presents O’Reilly the facts on Van Jones and O’Reilly laughs it off as no big deal. Coulter presents O’Reilly the facts on the dem vote down of healthcare for illegal aliens (Shows Obama’s dishonesty) O’Reilly almost defends him in an eerie way. O’Reilly suggests let’s take the chance and see what’s in the bill. If illegal alien healthcare is in there Obama will lose credibility. After it’s already law O’Reilly? I believe O’Reilly is smarter than that. He knows the truth, but disingenuously like to appear impartial. This is the weakness of moderates. They are at least some what afraid of total commitment.
O'Reilly is not one of us
diakrioi Tuesday, September 15th at 7:44AM EDT (link)He has always been what he is now except for a time around the election. For a while there he was aghast at the thought that O’bama actually might get elected. He continued the attitude for a while after the election but has now returned to form.
I was beginning to like him but the last straw for me was yesterday when he claimed that there were only 75000 protesters in DC on 9/12. There were far more and he should know it. He is aiming for fair and balanced but is missing the mark.
In his attempt to appear fair to the middle, O’Reilly is proving that he is willing to be disingenuous to get ratings. I am done with him.