Several of us were involved today in what has become a bi-weekly conference call with Congressman Kevin McCarthy (R-CA). Today’s guests were John Campbell (R-CA), Patrick McHenry (R-NC), and (in a surprise to everyone included Rep. McCarthy) Paul Ryan (R-WI) (via a phone-in from somewhere else in the buildings).
The main topic was once again The Budget….
Some reporting below the fold….
Congressman Campbell spoke first:
o He noted how he’s always thought of the Democrats as being the party of “tax and spend”…. “but in all my years….” as he started to say that, I jotted in my notebook “never seen anything like this” – and then Mr. Campbell uttered that exact phrase…. that speaks for itself.
o He also called the budget “a spending orgy”;
o Contrary to what we were all told, this budget increases taxes on EVERYONE
o He said that he had been looking into what it would take to make this budget and future budgets even come close to balancing – and concluded that EVERY federal tax would have to increase by 30% to have any chance of covering it all.
Congressman Ryan spoke next.
o “This is a unique moment in our history.”
o The President is exploiting the crisis – not solving it.
o He will be introducing the “alternative” (Republican caucus) budget tomorrow morning.
Congressman McHenry then added a few comments.
o It’s noticeable that Republicans on Capitol Hill are now referring to “cap and trade” as “cap and tax” at last – since that’s what it is. Cap-and-tax is a huge tax increase on EVERYONE.
o Under the Obama plan, we’re looking at $1.4 trillion in tax increases.
A number of interesting points arose during the Q&A….
o The topic of the ability (of lack thereof) in future to successfully auction debt came up again – and it was noted that in addition to the January and February failures of German debt auctions, the British government failed to auction $2.5B last week…. and last week’s U.S. 5-year note auction went poorly (the interest rate had to be increased at the last moment to make sure that all the notes could be auctioned).
o Rep. Ryan noted that the Fed has been stepping in to buy T-bills – which is the contemporary equivalent (or one of them) to “printing money.” This is one of the nightmare scenarios, of a cascade failure from the budgets (too much borrowing, leading to the Fed battening the gap, leading to the debasement of the dollar).
o Rep. Campbell also noted what appears to be a softening of demand for Treasury bills – once again raising the scenario of inability to auction all the debt that the new budget(s) demand(s). (I’m actually beginning to think that we may be seeing the limiting factor in these massive spend-and-borrow plans – the appetite for buying up this debt may indeed be fading.)
o There was a question about the situation with the “blue dog” Democrats – who are supposed to be fiscal conservatives – and this provoked quite a discussion. The basic across-the-board take from the Congressmen was that if there were indeed as many “blue dogs” as we had been led to believe, they could stop this budget nonsense in its tracks. But it appears that other than maybe a couple of exceptions, all the supposed “blue dogs” are marching behind Nancy Pelosi’s banner. Rep. McCarthy’s terse summary was that “I don’t believe there are any more blue dogs.” (If that’s the case – particularly given the number of so-called “blue dogs” elected from conservative-leaning districts in 2006 by campaigning on “fiscal responsibility” – this should have important consequences in the 2010 midterms….)
o It was hard to parse the voices, but most or all of the four Congressmen on the call said that they plan to personally attend the “tea parties” in their districts on 15 April. Congressman Campbell noted that at a recent “tea party” event back in his district in Orange County (CA), they were expecting to get maybe 700 people…. and got 15,000.
All for today….
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
For a long time I have been calling it
bobojake (Diary) Tuesday, March 31st at 9:53PM EST (link)obamas craps and shove tax
Ryan comes closest to striking the proper righteously indignant tone against the dems and in dropping the fear of attacking Obama, but
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, March 31st at 11:05PM EST (link)its still not strong enough. We have to call out the dems on MORAL grounds on how their policies hurt the poor and middle class both in their effect in the future and in their absence of action NOW to put people to work NOW.
But this is an improvment over the past weeks.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Ryan still lives in fear...
roscopico (Diary) Tuesday, March 31st at 11:29PM EST (link)He hails from Janesville WI and GM turned many from conservative to “what have you done for me lately” types… it is easy for a critter to be ideologically pure in good times.
I have great respect for Paul Ryan… and he is right. The debt auctions will fail to a greater extent in the future. This debt is untenable.
But let us duly note this is the same Paul Ryan (R-WI) who climbed on the outrage bandwagon to vote to retract the AIG bonuses-thus kicking the rule of law squarely in the nuts.
A contract is a contract, right?
Later, paul ryan (lowercase after the fact) admitted the mistake, stating it was probably unconstitutional (ex-post-facto, bill of attainder).
I had high hopes, especially as I rally for anyone from the land of Cheese and Beer, but paul ryan failed.
Jim Sensenbrenner for President!
A vote is a vote… and I had such high hopes.
Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier…
I suspect that the budget is going to pass with little trouble
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, April 1st at 8:03AM EST (link)Obama is going to get his $1.8T deficit and pretty much everything he has asked for, including cap and trade.
I don’t believe that there are any Democrats that will buck him in the end. They might play small games at the edge to allow them to try and avoid potential backlash in the future. But the political calculus seems to be that the majority of voters don’t give a damn about deficits. Just like they don’t give a damn about abortion.
All we can do really is try to fight and raise as much objection as possible, but actually stopping this in congress is not going to be possible. The only way to stop what is happening is to affect changes in attitudes among the voters, and that requires a grassroots effort. The Teaparties need to be wildly successful, and be significant enough to require media attention.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Limiting Factor
Skanderbeg (Diary) Wednesday, April 1st at 9:58AM EST (link)Politically, you’re doubtless right.
But I’m starting to think (and I’m not alone in this) that the limiting factor will be an inability to sell all the debt that they want to sell to fund this spree.
The underlying assumption is that the demand for that debt is essentially infinite; there are already a number of signs (as noted above and back in the 3/17 post-c.c. report) that this is already breaking down.
If the Fed starts buying the debt, then we’ve breached something far more horrid.
Yeah, I've been reading your posts about the debt sales
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, April 1st at 10:45AM EST (link)The entire process is fascinating. Does the Fed/Treasury have an option to raise capital if China decides to not buy the bonds? I guess they could print money, but I suspect that deciding to print $1T is going to drive us to the high inflation point, that will require significant increases in interest rates to combat.
I honestly can’t see a future that doesn’t include something akin to Japan’s lost decade. Ed Koch was right, “Sometimes the voters must be punished”.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Debt vs. Debt
Skanderbeg (Diary) Wednesday, April 1st at 12:04PM EST (link)That’s basically the rub – as we’re seeing debt auctions start to fail in other places.
If the debt can’t be auctioned, they’ll have to either trim the sails or “sell” the debt to the Fed – which amounts to just creating play money. That’s where the dollar-debasement really kicks in, loss of confidence in the currency, etc.
Those are the mechanics. How they play out remains to be seen, and also what the electoral consequences might be….