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From Bad to Worse – Making America Even MORE Uncompetitive

Trying to impose an ideology onto reality never ends well....

One of the great mysteries of contemporary society is how so many people have been able to sail into middle-age (or even senior-status) without ever having had any contact or interaction with, well, basically realities of how the world works. Abstract dorm-room-bull-session debates among sophomore undergraduates are bad enough – but one would think that time and exposure to reality would impose a solid degree of sanity and pragmatism, along with an orientation to results.

But apparently it’s possible to avoid nearly all contact with reality for decades. And it also seems that one of those folks has managed to get himself elected President.

And now he’s launching a mindless jihad designed to make the American corporate tax system – a system that is already badly uncompetitive in the world – even more uncompetitive.

Since I have direct exposure to global business and the international marketplace, this is a topic that I’ve been banging on about for a rather long time – as have a number of others.

The short take is that while policy-makers (sic?) in Washington have been ignoring things going on in the wider world and letting the tax system stand pat, other jurisdictions have been moving aggressively to lower their tax burdens and make their jurisdictions more competitive and more business friendly.

The most obvious (and clarion-like) example is the U.S. federal corporate income tax rate – which has been sitting at 35% for seemingly forever, and which is becoming comparatively uncompetitive just through the actions of others. (For example, the Irish corporate tax rate is 12.5%, while the Estonian corporate tax rate is…. 0%.) The situation with personal income taxes isn’t as clear-cut (all systems are complex), but many other jurisdictions have made a great effort to both flatten and lower rates – something which has been one of the most popular “enablers” of strong economic growth over the past two decades.

But there’s a more dreadful problem that is both unique to the U.S. and which gets little attention.

The U.S. system is unique (in a horrible way) in the world for imposing double-taxation on both corporate profits and personal incomes – when those funds are earned in other jurisdictions and are taxed there.

Let’s let a rather good article in today’s Wall Street Journal provide us with a clear example:

The current tax-deferral system is a clumsy attempt to deal with the fact that most other countries don’t tax their companies’ overseas profits. A German firm doing business in Ireland, say, pays no German income tax on its Irish profits, but it does pay Ireland’s corporate income tax at its 12.5% rate. The U.S. company competing with that German business in Ireland, by contrast, pays Ireland the same 12.5% on its profits — and it then pays Uncle Sam up to 35%, minus a credit for what it paid the Irish. And because almost everyone else’s corporate tax rates are lower than America’s (see nearby table), U.S. companies end up paying higher taxes than their international competitors.

(N.b. – Follow the link to see the table.)

There are three “take-aways” from that discussion:

1) The corporate tax rate in Ireland is much lower than the corporate tax rate in the U.S., making Ireland a much more congenial place in which to do business;

2) Unlike virtually every other jurisdiction in the world, the U.S. imposes U.S. corporate income tax on top of the jurisdiction-of-business corporate tax – in other words, this is a special penalty/tithing just for being a U.S. corporation;

3) Things are a bit muddled in the last part of that WSJ paragraph, so let’s walk through the details via that example. You’re a U.S. corporation doing business in Ireland; you pay a 12.5% tax on your corporate profits earned in Ireland. If you try to bring those profits back home (for things like new plant investments and other fluff of that sort), you get hit with the U.S. corporate profit tax of 35% on top of what you’ve already paid in Ireland; you are then allowed a tax credit to give you back the same amount that you just paid in Ireland. Since that leveling of the credit applies to all other jurisdictions as per their own corporate tax rates, the net result is to basically attempt to impose a blanket 35% overall corporate profits tax rate on all U.S. corporations. Now, let’s leave aside for the moment the complication that this is done not as a rate-computation-adjustment before you pay Washington – but as an ex post facto credit given back to you…. something that is just sitting there waiting for some demagogue to scream about “big tax credits handed out to big corporations, etc., etc.” And leave aside the bigger tax hit you’re taking here relative to your hypothetical German competitor – since that speaks for itself. Because of the way the tax credit system works at trying to impose a blanket 35% rate, the effective transjurisdictional penalty is larger for business done in lower-tax jurisdictions. E.g., after paying your 12.5% Irish corporate taxes, your payment in U.S. corporate taxes amounts to a 22.5% tithing; however, after “paying” your 0% Estonian corporate tax, your effective U.S. tithing is 35%.

Now that’s admittedly a slightly over-simplified description at the level of fine detail – since corporate taxation is very complex, and large companies in particular have strong incentive to have large staffs of excellent accountants to sort everything out and do their job of getting the firm to the minimum possible overall tax rate; in fact, “overall corporate income tax rate” is a followed metric in the analysis of corporate finance. (There’s even one purported “major turnaround” of a large, “name” company over the past 10 or 15 years that, as far as I can tell, amounted mostly to the hiring of a better set of accountants – who were able to find (legal) ways to lower the firm’s overall corporate income tax rate and thus greatly improve the bottom line.) But the basic notions of jurisdictional uncompetitiveness – and the reasons why – are pretty clear.

But to continue the narrative, this is obviously a very heavy competitive burden to impose on U.S. companies when they operate outside the country. To try to mitigate this burden,

Congress long ago created the corporate tax deferral to compensate for this competitive disadvantage. Under deferral, a company doesn’t have to pay the U.S. corporate rate until it repatriates its earnings. It can retain them overseas or reinvest them abroad with no penalty. But if it brings them home or pays them as dividends, the tax bill comes due.

That’s a sensible attempt to try to do something to ameliorate the obvious effects of a uniquely silly system. It would be better if Washington would upgrade our system to match international norms (!?!?) and just drop the silly double-taxation system. But lacking the sense to do that, at least there was enough sense to try to allow in some measure of sanity.

However….

The German company faces no such quandary. It pays the Irish tax, and it’s free to invest that money in Ireland or Germany or anywhere else. This territorial tax system, embraced by most of the world, eliminates the perverse incentive to hold money abroad that America’s deferral system creates.

In other words, the system is less punative – but it only works if the firm keeps those profits outside the country to keep them out of the grasping, greedy hands of Washington. So naturally, those funds will be invested outside the country – creating new facilities and new jobs outside the country.

At this point, does anyone wonder why “outsourcing” has become so popular? The only wonder is why there isn’t even more of it. The system we have now is grossly uncompetitive, and the only way to remain even modestly competitive in the international marketplace is by pushing more and more operational activities outside the country. (And, in my non-humble opinion, if the White House and Congressional Democrats want to make “outsourcing” an issue, my reaction is “Bring – It – On.” They’ve built a system that makes this a sensible business decision – to the point of being necessary for survival. If they want to ask why, we should be happy to tell them why.)

The solution to this problem is screamingly obvious – eliminate the foolish double-taxation situation, and lower the corporate tax rate to one that is competitive with the rest of the world. This would allow business decisions to be made much, much more strongly on the basis of business needs and opportunities rather than on attempting to cope with an onerous and uncompetitive tax regime.

But reality certainly isn’t in the loop with this crew of non-reality players….

…. but then their real goal isn’t tax reform or U.S. competitiveness. It’s a revenue grab, one made easier by the fact that overseas tax “avoidance” is easily demagogued.

Translation from the White House: “The system is bad, so let’s make it worse! Reality doesn’t matter a bit; all that matters is our abstract notions of ‘fair.’” (And Candidate Obama did say that he wanted to raise the capital gains tax rate, even if that produced less revenue, because that was “fair.”)

And to circle back to “outsourcing,”

To that political end, Mr. Obama conflates tax deferral with the offshoring of jobs — hence the sly reference to Bangalore, India.

What Mr. Obama (and like-minded functionaries) fail to grasp is that the difference between the system we have now and the new one they want to put in place isn’t a choice between jobs in Bangalore and jobs in, say, Peoria. It’s the choice between jobs in Bangalore and not being in business at all.

If you get to that point, there’s only one other option – and that’s where things could get really frightening….

As someone else has noticed,

Consider how double taxation would affect incentives facing U.S.-based multinationals that make more money abroad than they do in the U.S: General Motors, for example. Why would GM endure double taxation on its profitable overseas operations for the sake of its unprofitable U.S. operation? If Obama had his way with double taxation, we might wake up suddenly to find that GM had become a Swiss-based corporation that walked away from its U.S. operation, leaving it in the hands of the UAW and the U.S. Treasury (or maybe the post office). There could be many defections from the Fortune 500 list.

….

People and capital go where they’re welcome, and when they no longer feel welcome, they move on.

That last is indeed the case – and you really have to wonder how disconnected from reality Mr. Obama et al. must be to be so oblivious to the obvious conclusion that they’re playing with fire on this. If you’re GM…. or much more importantly, if you’re Microsoft, or Cisco, or a hugely-profitable U.S. company, why not just re-incorporate and re-HQ in Dublin or Tallinn?

That would of course have political difficulties due just to size and “visibility.” But the real growth engine of the U.S. economy has always been what’s been going on at the smaller, starter end of the scale:

Fewer companies will keep their headquarters in the U.S., especially small or mid-sized firms that can slip away without becoming a political target.

That’s my own wheelhouse, and that’s the really ugly reality.

Most of the discussions of this sort of thing tend to float on clouds of disembodied statistics – of capital flows, of negative GDP impacts, etc. But those discussions rarely – if ever – consider the human impact and the chaos this will bring to the lives of productive people.

I’m one of them.

I’m not an academic or a think-tanker or a politician – no great offense intended :) but many people can comment on how awful these things will be in their effects, shake their heads sadly, and go home for the evening – knowing (probably without even giving it thought) that there will be little direct impact in their own lives.

Not me. It’s frightening for some of us to ponder that we may end up – in the next two or three years – facing a wretched choice between ceasing to do the innovating and creating that we do (and become “community organizers” I guess), and relocating (business, life, family…. everything) to another jurisdiction…. one that will reward rather than punish innovation and development.

If you’re not starting to wonder why your own government is seemingly gearing up to drive you out of the country…. consider yourself lucky (for now). For some of us, while it’s probably unlikely that it would ever come to that, just the notion that it could become feasible and sensible is very, very unsettling….

COMMENTS

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    I thought this administration was going to let international norms be the model for our laws…

    Oh wait, that’s right,they neglected to mention that the international norms they were referring to was to castrate our Constitution with all those nasty individual rights – speech, property, educating your children, religion – that get in the way of state pre-emption, which is the tyranny that we overthrew 233 years ago.

    As far as international norms for business – forget it; the government wants us all to become economic vegetarians once it has killed all the golden geese.

    • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

      as in the Soviet Internationale.

      • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth
  • DerKrieger

    Anyone with any sense knows that corporations pay little if any real income taxes. All they do is collect taxes from their customers on behalf of the government. Their share of the tax burden is in the cost of goods sold. But for the Dems it’s a valuable issue with which to whip up anti-business sentiment and class warfare and thus we will probably never institute rational changes to tax policy. The income tax is the root of most Federal evil.

    And instead of responding by educating the public, the GOP remains mute afraid of their own shadow and of being labeled against the little guy.

    • Skanderbeg

      Well, as I said in the piece, if the WH and Congressional Democrats want to pick a fight with us over “outsourcing,” I say “Bring it on!”

      The silly system that we have has made us so uncompetitive vs. other jurisdictions that it makes no sense to NOT outsource.

      Make it worse, and instead of just outsourcing jobs, you outsource whole companies….

      None of this is difficult to get across to listeners….

  • http://www.800cart.com Ron Robinson

    If you are a small businessperson, you may read the above and feel it’s a bit abstract for you. Nothing could be further from the truth, especially if your business has strong internet components.

    Offshoring Workers for the Small Bisiness:
    Anyone who has a credit card can go to www,odesk.com and hire data entry operators, engineers, lawyers, researchers, programmers, personal assistants, HR, payroll, bookkeepping, accounting, public relations, telemarketing and many other functions that can be ‘offshored’ quickly, easily and with very low risk. There are lots of workers around the world who are waiting to work for you and will work, very hard and very cheap. They want you to hire them again and will deliver, and make sure you are satisfied. Doesn’t sound like the typical US employee, does it?

    I’ve been hiring programmers this way for over a year. I said the risk is low and it is: first job for a new worker, I risk $25 and have them code a test poject (one I actually need to deploy) – if the work is usable, I have a new permanent consultant. I do not pay payroll taxes. I have no obligation to keep them on board. Work rules and obligations that would apply to US workers do not obtain. Not only do I get $100 worth of work performed for $18, my compliance costs and risks are $0.

    Odesk.com charges your card and remits to the worker so you are not sharing your CC info with every worker you hire.

    VISA and MC will even protect me if I make a bad choice or have a bad experience.

    Experience workers there will have reviews on odesk.com you can use to guage their effectiveness for other parties who hired them. Odesk even gives technical tests and allows you to see how a prospective worker scored in some work areas.

    Offshoring Corporate Domicile for Small Business:
    If you are a mostly internet company you have struck gold, no matter how small you are. Who says your servers have to be in the US? Offshore servers are frequently cheaper and more reliable. Thousands of offshore equity firms exist to quickly get your corporation domiciled in any country you wish and it is very, very cheap. So are the banks that are competing for your business. The internet has made it all very, very inexpensive!

    Look at the page you are reading right now. There is an ad at the top and one halfway down the page on the right.

    Absolutely nothing prevents redstate.com from adjusting that 2nd ad halfway down the right margin so that its revenues are domiciled, charged and banked offshore while the other ad revenues go to their usual (probably domestic) revenue destination.

    After a few months of this, redstate.com can purchase other assets offshore to enhance these offshore revenues. Nearly every bank account in the civilized world can come with a VISA/MC debit/ATM card, so when redstaters travel outside the US, they can use the offshore revenues to pay for their travel with no tax liability at all (assuming they domiciled in one of the many countries where there is no corporate tax).

    And it’s all legal. And there is no way Obama and his minions can prevent it or even detect it.

    Obama is trying very hard to literally enslave the US population and US business. What he will do instead if he persists is ensure the impoverishment of our country…

    Except for the folks (big and little) who start thinking in offshore terms now.

    (BTW, I am not an offshoring consultant nor do I set up offhshore entities. But I did start thinking about offshoring my own small firm about 5 years ago and discovered true gold for my firm in the process.)

    • http://www.tommyland.org/ lesreaper

      but I can’t seem to find any contact info. Any chance we could chat?

  • gonzo55

    but wouldn’t the Laffer curve apply to businesses as well? That is, if we cut the tax rate, tax revenue should actually increase, making it kind of a no-brainer, no? Am I missing something?

    • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

      JFK figured it out way back in 1960. Too bad the current democrats don’t have anything in common with him, but have taken sides with his communist assassin instead.

    • Skanderbeg

      Well, as I said in the piece, the problem right now is that we have a bunch of sophomoric smart-a**es who have had basically NO contact with reality and are in the thrall of abstract theories.

      This is one case where the Laffer curve applies very simply rather than abstractly (as the original idea did). If you have tax policies that makes your jurisdiction uncompetitive, you’ll lose capital to other jurisdictions.

      Since none of these clowns have any real-world business experience, methinks that they are totally oblivious to simple realities that nearly everyone else can quickly figure out….

  • Bham

    I’m retired now, but I worked a career in US-domiciled Big Pharma, the last fifteen years or so in finance. Without specifying my corporate affiliation — they were all pretty much alike in this regard anyway — I’d add that we had three or four dozen corporate legal entities in a hierarchy above the national affiliate companies. “Trading companies” in Geneva, self-insurance entities in Bermuda, regional aggregation divisions in London, etc. — you get the idea.

    No one beyond our lawyers, tax department or other such technicians ever paid much attention to this latticework of ownership and “dividend” flows, but they generally served practical purposes of minimizing overall taxes, just as described in the above RS diary entry.

    Based on my experience actually doing this work, like Skanderbeg, I would agree that changing domiciles — decamping the US for another national “home” — is NOT off the table for many familiar corporate names. Frankly, it wouldn’t even have been that hard for my company to do. As I just said, we were already incorporated in lots of more hospitable and suitable locations, so all we needed to do was an internal stock exchange, reversing the ownership flow to, say, the Geneva trading company.

    One encumbrance is that the transaction might require shareholder approval, but faced with the prospect of a huge profit hit unless the domicile was moved, I think such approval would be forthcoming. (I’d probably vote for it as a shareholder.)

    The WSJ editorial cited in Skanderbeg’s diary concluded that BHO’s real objective was grasping for increased revenue to fund his spending and borrowing orgy. Who am I to disagree? But this proposal is chock full of potential for unintentional, and self-defeating, consequences.

    • Skanderbeg

      Good point.

      A key question is – are they really so clueless as to not grasp the damage this will do…. and thus be a revenue-raising empty bag?

      Or do they see it as a great one-off to grab a bunch of money off the table – even though the plan itself isn’t “sustainable” once the reaction to it sets in….

    • paulincolo

      Sarbanes-Oxley by the number of companies that chose to list on the London Exchange rather than NYSE or Nasdaq, so they wouldn’t have to be subject to ridiculous accounting and reporting rules.

  • http://deweyfromdetroit.com deweyfromdetroit

    in the land of liberal good intentions. Unfortunately the do-gooders expect those grounded in the real world – where results are required – to fund all of their Utopian dreams. Problem? Over time you wind up with fewer grounded realists and more Utopian dreamers. We just can’t keep up.

  • willingtoengage

    Comparing the statutory rates is disingenuous. Most corporations are not paying 35% tax and do not anticipate paying 35% tax. This site: describes how the real effective tax rate, what corporations are actually paying, is roughly 24%. It places the US somewhere in the middle to lower than most of the rest of the world. And this site tax analysis has two excellent charts that show corporate profits skyrocketed from 2002-2006 when the effective corporate tax rate was between 22-24%..
    So instead of your argument, which says that corporate profits are hurt by a 35% tax rate, at least from the data that I can find, corporate profits went up under the current tax structure. You also neglect to take into account any of the costs associated with US companies going abroad – there would be increase in shipping and potentially tariffs to pay to sell in the US market. Finally, Ireland? Really? As the economist points out here the economy crashed BIG TIME – the solution: “Consumers are aware of the gap in the budget and know tax rises are coming.? I hardly think Ireland is the economic model the US should be following.

    • Skanderbeg

      Well, remember, when all else fails, actually read what was written.

      The biggest reason that various corporations have been able to pay a less-than 35% rate, as clearly stated in the piece, is that they leave profits outside the country so that they are not taxed at the too-high US rate. That’s why good accountants are so well-paid – they know how to (legally) use the other jurisdictions. The simple reality is that the more internationalized your business, the better you can lower your corporate tax rate by taking advantage of the other provisions.

      Another present-day amusement is the emergence of what my Australian friend Tim Blair calls “disaster socialists” – who have been lurking under the bridge like trolls (!!) for two or three decades waiting for something to happen in the sensible jurisdictions (like Ireland and Estonia and elsewhere) that adopted good economic policies, gave themselves two or three decades of strong economic growth, and have lifted them from terrible poverty. One hiccup after thirty years proves nothing, other than that arrogant collectivists will never give up their belief that they should be put in charge.

      Today’s budget gaps are the result of one problem – during the good years, one of the bad consequences was a tendency of governments to spend too much. Like the rest of us, they need to cut back until things improve.

      The bottom line is that we know what works because it just works. Trying to claim that what works is wrong because of one small hiccup is dishonest.

    • aesthete

      The Ireland of today is an economic miracle, made so by the implementation of these policies. Its GDP per capita, as well as standard of living, are actually HIGHER than that of the UK. Suggesting that the standard boom and bust cycles of business, especially in a global economy as volatile as the present day one, is due to the lower tax rate takes none of this into consideration, and is rather static, IMO.

      BTW, if you do want to research Irish history to see why it’s considered such an economic miracle, I would start with the Viking rads on Ireland, and work my way up to their involvement in the English Civil War and other English conflicts, then probably an overview of the potato famine, though pre-Roman and Roman-era Ireland is fascinating, as well.

      • willingtoengage

        Any recommendations on book titles that further explain your argument?

      • willingtoengage

        This article Ireland to Shrink Most of Any Economy Since 1930s, ESRI Says is not exactly a ringing endorsement of Ireland’s economic policies… some choice quotes:

        Ireland?s economy may shrink almost 12 percent in the three years through 2010, the biggest decline of any industrialized country since the Great Depression of the 1930s, the country?s Economic & Social Research Institute said.

        Probably not the outcome of a sound financial policy. Less growth earlier for less decline probably would have been preferable?

        ?We?re remarkably exposed? to the global slump, said Alan Barrett, senior economist at the ESRI. ?But it always comes back to housing,? which during the boom accounted for more than 20 percent of economic growth.

        Does not seem that spending was the problem – instead bad economic policies that contributed to outrageous credit.

        • Skanderbeg

          I’m still not sure what your point is.

          We’re in a severe recession – they happen because you can’t repeal the business cycle; the only other option is to go back to living in caves.

          The bottom line is simple. Over the past two or three decades, we can make a list of jurisdictions that adopted good economic policies and those that did not. Those that did have achieved phenomenal improvements – and having been directly involved in some of these myself, I must say that it has been astounding to see the improvements in places like Tallinn and Bucharest. Other places adopted foolish economic policies and have spent the past two or three decades stuck in the mud (see France, Germany) – and are hurting just as bad now too.

          The overall results are very clear.

  • itrytobenice

    Your diary and the comments should be required reading for every voter in America.

    • Skanderbeg

      Thanks for the kind words.

      As I said in the piece, I’m not a pundit or a think-tanker – I have to go out and deal with this world, and adjust to where good things happen and where they don’t.

      Probably the most astounding aspect of this recession is the number of bitter pills who have been nursing their hatreds for some three decades now, hoping for some sort of crisis so that they can try to tell us that the policies of the 1970s somehow really were better.

      The collectivists will always be with us, and they just can’t help themselves in hoping hopelessly that every economic sneeze is FINALLY the grand “crisis of capitalism” that their prophet karl promised.

      But in any case, we really need to pound on this whole issue of poor structural competitiveness. Growth will return to the world; it’s just a question of where the growers will choose to put it.