Breakfast in Pretoria


Some fresh news from Zimbabwe....

This morning at the hotel here in Pretoria, I had breakfast with a businessman who is in town from Harare, the capitol of nearby Zimbabwe.

He had a number of fascinating things to say about the present situation in Zimbabwe, which I’ll share below the fold.

Well, it started off a bit strange. I mentioned that I have a friend/colleague in Windhoek (Namibia) who is originally from Harare - and it turns out that they actually know each other. Go figure.

His work brings him to Pretoria several times a year (and his sister lives here now), so he drives back and forth pretty regularly.

He said that being in Pretoria so often reminds him of how even the simple things of life have been lost in Zim.

For example, he said that he hasn’t taken a shower in Harare in about four years - there’s no running water into the residences any more. To wash in the morning, he takes a bucket somewhere (where you can get some water), and then uses that to take a sponge bath. For about as long, there has been no electricity in the residences.

Since their kids happen to be on a school vacation break at this time, he brought the kids down to Pretoria with him on this trip; the kids are going to stay in Pretoria with his sister for the next two weeks, while he flies back to Harare tomorrow - he’ll fly back to Pretoria in a couple weeks, and then after that drive back to Harare with the children.

He said that this was the first trip ever out of Zim for the children - and so they are getting their first real exposure to the outside world. When they got to his sister’s house in Pretoria, he asked them, “Okay, we’ve arrived - what’s the first thing you want to do?” They unanimously cheered that they wanted to take showers. Once they had all had their turn at showering, he asked them what they wanted to do next. The reply to that was also unanimous - “McDonald’s!!” They don’t have a McDonald’s in Zim - “Yet!” I replied to that. :)

On the good side, he said that the abandonment (a few months ago) of the totally degraded Zim dollar in favor of making the South African rand and the U.S. dollar legal currency in Zim has had spectacular positive effects. The most prominent is that whereas a year ago the shops in Harare were all barren of goods, now they are well-stocked; and while more items in greater quantities are becoming available, the use of stable outside currencies has broken the hyperinflation problem - the prices are reasonable. He noted that he had some construction to do at his house last year, and the price of cement was the equivalent of $25 a bag; now, the price is $7 a bag. I noted that the general commodity price reduction of the past year has probably helped as well, but this one seems to be working as intended - get a stable currency as the medium of transaction, and inflation disappears very quickly.

He also said that if you travel to the remotest corners of Zim, people have U.S. dollars even there - and have been using them in transactions on their own for some time. He also said that the money-changers in Harare are doing a brisk business - particularly with the South African rand having appreciated considerably against the U.S. dollar over the past year (when I was here last year the exchange rate was about 10 rand to the dollar; now it’s about 8).

Some time back, my Zim-born colleague in Windhoek sent me some of his photos of Harare from back in happier times. I’ve never been there, but it looked lovely - it’s on a high plateau (giving the city a moderate climate), and from the pictures it was very green, florid, and sunny; apparently, Harare is known as “The Sunshine City.” (If you talk to some really old Africa hands, it’s surprising how many of them will tell you that back in the bad old days when Harare was “Salisbury,” they found it to be the most gracious and appealing city in Africa.)

But the upside here is very simple. If you don’t debase the currency and ensure that it retains its value, it’s amazing what positive economic consequences flow just from that.

Maybe soon, we’ll be able to hector the present occupants of Washington with this - that they can learn a lot by looking at Zimbabwe.

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Thanks, Skanderberg, for the update from Pretoria

ashland_avenue Tuesday, August 18th at 6:45AM EDT (link)

Dear Skanderberg,

Thanks so much for the update from Pretoria; I for one always enjoy your insights from various locales and your thoughts re little known battles and other historic events.

It so happens that I am now listening on car CD to The Teaching Company course The African Experience: From ‘Lucy’ to Mandela , delivered by Prof Kenneth P. Vickery of North Carolina State University. The course is here http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/CourseDescLong2.aspx?cid=8678.

He tells an anecdote of a visit years ago by Zimbabwe President Robert Mogabe to North Carolina; the occasion was a talk which M was giving to officials and academics at a conference. Asked to introduce the Zim leader, a NC official tried comparing the African nation with the Southern state. Both had warm climates, both produced tobacco, and both had cities named Salisbury.

Of course, by then the African city had already been renamed, and Mogabe bristled. The president went on in his speech to describe the land distribution program which his nation was just then beginning. ‘We are paying market prices from willing sellers,’ he is reported to have said. Then, after a pause, he added: ‘But it wasn’t bought from us.’

I have the course out from local library and it is well worth hearing.

The geographic area is of interest to me because of some family history. Some of my folks – three brothers of my great grandmother – had emigrated in the late 1880’s from Western Lithuania to South Africa. Economically and socially, the Baltic was then becoming less and less tenable for Jewish folk such as mine.
Two areas were to absorb most of those leaving this little village: America, specifically Chicago, and South Africa. Her brothers had made their way to Pietersburg, now known as Polokwane. Her husband set out for Chicago with assurances that he would send for her later.

Instead, in late 1903 came a ‘Dear Gertrude’ letter. They had never gotten along, and she would not like the new city. Find a new husband and a better father for the two girls, he wrote. The oldest was my grandmother. She wrote to her brothers in Pietersburg, who immediately forwarded funds and urged her to join them in Africa.

I can picture my great grandmother sitting at a wooden table in a small home just off the River Jura. Should she take the money and join her brothers in the land of wild animals and easier fortunes? Her youngest brother by century’s end had owned a hotel and a store. Or, should she use the funds to search out an errant husband in the world’s first or second fastest growing city, Chicago.

It is only in recent years that I have learned that it wasn’t the Germans in World War II who had perfected the art of concentration camps. As Wikipedia points out: “The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. defines concentration camp as: a camp where non-combatants of a district are accommodated, such as those instituted by Lord Kitchener during the South African war of 1899-1902” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment

We know, of course, that she chose Chicago, or I would not have existed as an American. Her errant husband was truly that; he continued to reject her. Without funds, without skills, and unable then to speak English, she did what she could: Married a widower whose first wife had just died in childbirth.

Began again in America.

Ash, I enjoyed yours and Skanderbeg's write-up.

penguin2 Tuesday, August 18th at 10:16AM EDT (link)

Interesting to see the outcomes historically for different paths taken. Both by individuals and then to put it into the larger context of countries.

Skanderbeg, now I am intrigued to read more about South Africa. Any book suggestions?

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin

Books

Skanderbeg Tuesday, August 18th at 10:24AM EDT (link)

I’m meeting tomorrow with one of my friends/colleagues here who has a family history in ZA that goes back to the 1630s or so. I’ll ask him for some suggestions for historical reading.

 
 

"Concentration Camps"

Skanderbeg Tuesday, August 18th at 1:25PM EDT (link)

That’s actually correct.

During the Boer Wars, the biggest problem that the British had was that the Boers were an elusive guerrilla force. For a long time, the British were quite polite - the Boer men would “go out on kommando” and leave the women and children at home… and the Brits wouldn’t bother them.

But as time wore on, the British got tired of this situation, and of knowing that the men came back home for supplies when the British weren’t around. So they confined all the women and children into camps to keep them away from the men - so that the Boer guerrillas were not resupplied and the farms were not worked. This is what actually broke Boer resistance.

That’s where I think the name comes from - the Boer non-combatants were “concentrated” into the camps (rather than being diffused around the countryside). But the camps were not created to exterminate the inmates. The Soviets and the Nazis took it there.

Re concentration camps

ashland_avenue Tuesday, August 18th at 3:09PM EDT (link)

From A Boer Girl’s Memory of The War http://www.erroluys.com/BoerWarChildsStory.htm

“Emily Hobhouse, an English activist, spent six months in South Africa from January to June 1901 visiting Bloemfontein and six other camps….

“No one hated Emily more than Lord Kitchener, whose troops burnt down 30,000 farm houses, torched a score of towns and interned 116,572 Boers, a quarter of the population.

(snip)

“The concentration camps claimed the lives of 27,972 Boers. Of these, 22,074 were children like Lizzie van Zyl.”

 
 
 

There's a lesson here somewhere

mallcopsaysno Tuesday, August 18th at 9:16AM EDT (link)

If you don’t debase the currency and ensure that it retains its value, it’s amazing what positive economic consequences flow just from that.

Well, it’s a good thing the Fed has been such a careful guardian of our dollar. I mean, instead of the dollar losing 95% of its purchasing power since 1913 it could have been a higher figure, like 96% or 97%. With a record of success like that, who could object to giving them even more control over the levers of our economy?

The American dollar is Zim dollar on a longer time scale.

You win the prize!

Neil Stevens Tuesday, August 18th at 11:28AM EDT (link)

Dumbest comment of the thread award, to you!

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Accepting on my behalf

mallcopsaysno Tuesday, August 18th at 11:54AM EDT (link)

is Neil Stevens whose own unconstructive comment blazed a new trail to nowhere on this comment thread.

No really, I'd argue with you

Neil Stevens Tuesday, August 18th at 12:14PM EDT (link)

But your comment is just so wrong, and so devoid of understanding of anything said in Skanderbeg’s piece, or of basic economics, that I have nowhere to begin.

Yours in RonPaulRonPaulRonPaul,

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Well, I thought it was pretty clear

mallcopsaysno Tuesday, August 18th at 12:35PM EDT (link)

I even quoted Skanderbeg’s piece in making my point. I can try to simplify for you:

Debase currency –> Bad
Zimbabwean currency debased –> Bad for Zimbabwe
American currency debased –> Bad for America
American custodian of the value of our dollar –> the Fed
The Fed’s historical record –> not the most stellar in protecting the value of our currency
Could it happen to us? –> It is, just on a longer time scale
Food for thought –> No, why would you suggest such a thing? That’s just stooooooopid.

Wait, you’re right. Sorry I brought it up.

/sarcasm

Stop digging

Neil Stevens Tuesday, August 18th at 12:45PM EDT (link)

You’re just looking dumber and dumber.

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I'm echoing Neil. STOP. Digging. [nt]

Martin Knight Tuesday, August 18th at 12:50PM EDT (link)



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

perhaps it will work in picture form ;-)

JLenardDetroit Tuesday, August 18th at 1:10PM EDT (link)

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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
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+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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mallcopsaysno: You don't really contribute much, do you?

Martin Knight Tuesday, August 18th at 12:16PM EDT (link)

I mean, there’s sooo much stupid™ in your comment, I think I lost IQ points just reading it.

For everyone else; to put “mallcopsaysno’s” 1913 to 2009 comparison into perspective, you have to ask yourself a few questions; i.e. how much would a DVD player have cost in 1913? A laptop? A fridge? A car that goes 160 mph? Flying from Europe to the United States?



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

All I know Martin, is that we seem to be living very affluently

penguin2 Tuesday, August 18th at 12:42PM EDT (link)

in this day and age. I understand adjusting for inflation, but that guy made no sense to me. We have more and can do more than any other time in history. What is he saying? I rename him malcontent.

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin

 
 

That was a joke, right? nt

aesthete Tuesday, August 18th at 12:52PM EDT (link)

Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand

“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC

 
 

It's amazing what we take for granted in this country.

Common_Cents Tuesday, August 18th at 12:49PM EDT (link)

If I were dictator I’d require every HS or College student to travel overseas, heck nearly anywhere. I’d think they’d come home with a little more appreciation for what they have and the struggle by our forefathers that came along with it.

I drank a few Windhoek beers out on a 2 week safari in Botswana. A trip of a lifetime. Also visited Soweto, poverty to the extreme. But I’m gonna hire a few of those guys for future sales positions! They knew how to sell their trinkets and wares despite the terrible environment.

“Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.” Napoleon - Well, unless he is ruining your country! Common Cents

A cult of personality arises when a country’s leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.[1] Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships.

 

Every time I come back from a trip to Africa,

Old_Crow Tuesday, August 18th at 3:21PM EDT (link)

I’m grateful for showers, clean drinking water, electricity, mosquitoes that don’t carry deadly diseases… for about two weeks, then I slip every so comfortably back into accepting all common things we take for granted in the USA.

Always enjoy reading your stuff skanderbeg. thanks

BTW, I was discussing politics with a African military officer on by last trip and he asked me “How could America elect a colonialist as its President?” Obama is not as popular in Africa as the NYT leads you to believe.

“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
“So this is how liberty dies.. with thunderous applause” — Star Wars III

 

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