Did Norm Coleman try to count coup in the MN recount?


If this story ( link ) by Scott Johnson on Powerline is accurate—and I bet it is—then the Norm Coleman campaign got thumped by the Al Franken campaign in the hardball politics of vote recounting. 

There’s no excuse for that.

You don’t count coup against someone armed with Winchester rifles who’s willing to use them.  Unless you want to get shot, that is.

It appears that Team Coleman got riddled by political marksmen during this recount. 

Can anyone explain what Team Coleman or the RNSC was thinking? I mean…did they want this Senate seat or not?

Read on

Senator Coleman has acted a bit like an NFL team sitting on a two-point lead in the closing minutes of the fourth quarter and playing zone defense. He could have been much more aggressive in protecting his position in the days since November 5.

One overlooked aspect of the process is the different approaches the two campaigns took once the recount began. From the outset of the recount process, the Coleman campaign has been remarkably passive in its approach. They have improvised strategy from day to day and spent too much time “spinning” the Franken campaign’s activities, while expecting their lawyers to protect them. They have not appeared to me to have a handle on what was happening or on what was likely to happen.

They didn’t have a handle on what was likely to happen? Hel-LO!!!!!

The Coleman campaign appears to have bet they could create a legal firewall that would prevent the “improperly rejected” absentee ballots from getting counted. In any event, the Coleman campaign appears to have been caught flatfooted when the Minnesota Supreme Court decided these ballots should be included in the recount subject to agreement of the parties (and also subject to the possibility of sanctions for withholding agreement in bad faith).

Whatever my inferences, the Coleman campaign was visibly floored by the result when the ballots they had agreed to include were counted on Saturday. The campaign has not put on a performance that makes an impression of anything other than ineptitude.

Okay…as a Redstate and GOP foot soldier, may I ask out loud, with my rage barely contained, why this happened?

Team Coleman had plenty of time to prepare. If they needed help, they should have called for it.

It is one thing to lose a fight after you’ve waged it the best you could, with all the strength and wits and spirit you could bring to bear. It’s quite another thing to lose it because you got lazy!

If Team Coleman wasn’t prepared for this, then they deserved to lose that seat.

Now, I wish they’d told the rest of us in GOP land. A 42 seat GOP delegation is better than a 41 seat one. Now, that seat is gone to the GOP for six years!

Erick, remember the story of Abraham Lincoln’s one time in war? When he lead militia in the Black Hawk War? Lincoln told the story of him giving an order, and his troops saying back to him “you go to hell.”

Well, when you’re talking to GOP leaders, please tell them we foot soldiers are getting tired of this ineptitude. Let’s see—what recent Senatorial examples can I think of…

1) George Allen’s lame reelection campaign, which resulted in Dem Sen Jim Webb

2) Mark Pryor ran UNOPPOSED this past election.

3) And now…we appear to be losing a Senate seat we’d won, because we chose to count coup when our enemies chose to use Winchesters against us—the same Winchesters they brandished for all to see during the whole recount!

May we please have leaders and candidates who will fight? If the ones we have right now are too beholden to New Tone, begging for earmarks from the Dem majority and seeking the favor of MSM talking heads, then can we please have some leaders who will fight. And use common sense while they do it?

I am TIRED of following these clowns! It is a waste of my time to do so.

Will somebody up there fight? Anyone? Anyone?



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If somebody could give me formatting advice...

smagar (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:14AM EST (link)

I’d appreciate it Specifically, how do we preview diaries before we post them?

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

How you preview...

Bill S (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:39AM EST (link)

Write the diary, then save it. Do NOT publish it. Once you’ve saved it, the Preview button shows up on the right, just above the Save & Publish buttons. Once you’re satisfied, THEN push Publish and your diary will appear on the list.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

And, you can go back and edit your diary

Bill S (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:41AM EST (link)

even after it’s published. Click on “Create New Diary Entry” and then click the “Manage” tab. You can then click on your diary entry and edit it. From looking at what you’ve entered, it appears that you put HTML into the visual editor. Make sure you’re using the HTML editor if you’re going to insert tags into your posting.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

And the other cool thing about using WordPress

Brian Simpson (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:21AM EST (link)

is that it is a visual editor (by default). You don’t have to worry about HTML. All you need to do is type and push buttons (Even to embed links).

If you are cross-posting a blog from somewhere else, all you have to do is copy and paste the output from the other blog and it will automatically transfer over all links and pictures (as long as they got highlighted).


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Important principles may and must be inflexible. ~ Abraham Lincoln

 

Your HTML is OK

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:38AM EST (link)

It was just being escaped out by some editor you were using that thought you really wanted the tags to show as text.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 
 

No, smagar, they won't fight.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:28AM EST (link)

Republican officeholders CANNOT stand controversy and confrontation. They cannot stand to be around anyone who causes or engages in controversy or confrontation. Most of our constituent base can’t stand controversy or confrontation. Look no further than the way people here at RedState look at Anne Coulter. Whether or not you agree with some of her stands, the primary knock against her is that she is so confrontational.

Democrats on the other hand have utter ruthlessness down. Usually, their officeholders can fake Mr. or Ms. NiceGuy, but behind the throne they have legions of skilled, ruthless apparatchniks who revel in the opportunity to nut and gut feckless Republicans.

In Vino Veritas

Relentless partisanship is required

Beaglescout (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:24AM EST (link)

It’s like a ball game. Do you give any less than 110% of what you have and demand any less than 110% from everyone on your side? Do you slow down coming into second when it looks like you might be tagged or speed up and try to spook the defender? If you don’t quite get to an outfield fly ball before it bounces do you give up and make the easy, safe play or do you throw hard at first to try to get the out? Republican politicians haven’t been playing hard. It’s a bad habit that has to be overcome. I don’t know whether it comes from being beaten like a rug from the 30s to the 80s or from some kind of misplaced patrician ethic, but the Republicans need to play politics as if they cared how things turned out. And that means no more bipartisan bean bag games.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton
 

5. nt

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:07AM EST (link)

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

At least Coleman wasn't "mean".

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:11AM EST (link)

["mean" = Kryptonite to Republicans]

I even gave some dough to the Coleman recount effort. I hope they enjoyed the crudites.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

I got tossed from the Juneau Empire's blog yesterday.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:21AM EST (link)

It all started with just a snarky comment about an OpEd over the problem we have with what has become a very stinky city dump that just happens to be between the airport and downtown – where the Capitol Building and stuff like that is. I blamed on downtown lefties who didn’t like the incinerator that we once had.

One of those downtown lefties came on and pronounced me to be a pompous ass who had been a foul-mouthed bully when I worked for the State. So, I gave her a demonstration of what a foul mouthed bully looked like in a discussion of her ancestry and sexual proclivities. And the Empire took down all the posts and shut down the thread. I was SO proud of myself – a former Republican appointee described as a bully; I think that puts me right up there with Dick Cheney!

In Vino Veritas

You have never worked for the Post office....have you?

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:38AM EST (link)

go to one of their newpapers machines…put 50 cents in……then take ALL the papers…it will make you feel better…

 

Achance, you will go far when we implement the Restoration! nt

streetwise (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:55AM EST (link)

We'll see -

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 12:20PM EST (link)

Even in this Republican state there’s plenty of avoidance of controversy and confromtation. I gave a Republican Governor and two Republican controlled Legislatures four years of no labor strife and no singing songs and carrying signs in front of the Capitol. They know that, they appreciate it, but they still are a little reticent to be seen in public with me.

It mostly has to do with the kinds of people who choose or we recruit to run for office or to seek appointments. They’re mostly small business people and they made their way into politics through the Chamber, their trade association, the Rotary and such and they have that “hail fellow well met stuff down,” but they simply MUST be liked and can’t stand the notion that somebody might no like them. Many also come from sales and marketing where, if you’re successful, you simply must believe that you can sell anybody. These people simply cannot be convinced that it is some people’s job to hate you and there is nothing you can say or do to get them to like you; e.g., there is NOTHING a Republican can do to get a big, wall-to-wall public employee union to like them, yet lots of Rs give them all sorts of goodies trying to get them to like them.

In Vino Veritas

This is why I am so high on Rudy- he simply does not care when people hate him.

streetwise (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 12:32PM EST (link)

He will analyze the discontent, and if he doesn’t think it has merit, he just doesn’t give a damn.

 

If you're not hated by the right people, you're not doing your job.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 1:09PM EST (link)

If you’re a Republican elected or appointed official and you are not hated by the media, academia, Greenies, public employee unions, and victim identity groups, you simply are not doing your job. A lesson should be taken from what happed to that media darling Maverick McCain, but Republican officeholders will continue to be in denial.

In Vino Veritas

I can't resist this achance

Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 2:29PM EST (link)

How does this apply to Palin? : )

Oh, Jack, that was a good one! Can't wait to see the answer. n/t

janis (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 2:42PM EST (link)

Well, first, Jack_Savage,

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 4:14PM EST (link)

I don’t hate her if that was what you’re angling for. I disagree with her about lots of things, but those are disagreements on policy, nothing personal, just business.

She’s managed to keep the unions sullen but not mutinous because there’s been money. That said, both the supervisors and the COs took her to interest arbitration. I don’t think any of them endorsed McCain/Palin and only one of them endorsed her for Governor. The Greenies hate her, see, e.g., predator control and polar bears. There’s been plenty of money so the teachers unions and the University haven’t been up at arms towards her, but they certainly don’t back her. She’s come under increasing criticism from the Native community, but hasn’t provoked any battles with them. There’s be plenty of opportunity for that though when the BHO Administration tries to claim Alaska Native groups are sovereign and have a direct relationship with the US and we don’t have Ted Stevens to stem the tide on that. When she was opposed to Randy Ruedrich and Frank Murkowski, she was the media’s favorite Republican. They were pretty nice to her for her first two years. That all ended when she became the VP Nominee.

In Alaska, it is pretty easy to keep everybody at least sullen but not mutinous if you have money to throw around. This administration has had astounding amounts of money – until now. I spent almost my whole career with oil in the Twenties or less. I thought I’d died and gone to heaven when it was up near fifty late in Murkowski and I didn’t have to fight with unions over money. We’ll see how this administration adapts to actually having to think about what you spend money on.

In Vino Veritas

Oh, I was just messin' with you achance

Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 6:42PM EST (link)

With a quote like this:

“…hated by the media, academia, Greenies, public employee unions, and victim identity groups…”

I thought that could pretty well describe Sarah Palin, so I was angling for your endorsement of her.

I am going to have a bumper sticker made for my car that says “Sullen, Soon To Be Mutinous”.

It's a good motto, jack_savage.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 6:52PM EST (link)

When I lived in the LR world, I always viewed my job as keeping the unions sullen but not mutinous. It is a good way to describe any opposition interest.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Achance, you will go far when we implement the Restoration! nt

streetwise (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:55AM EST (link)
 

Either mean or unemployed

Kyle-MI (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:30AM EST (link)

Republican office holders are either mean or unemployed.

 
 
 

Love Ann Coulter and going to get her book this weekend...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 8:51PM EST (link)

in store because I love the look of the other shoppers and the staff :-) She tells it like it is and she uses research and footnotes for everything she says.

O’Reilly just said his email was 50/50 from Conservatives on Ann I would say its 50 percent Conservatives who are willing to fight for their party for Ann and 50 percent of the “squishes” “Rockefeller Republican” and just people who refuse to fight for what they believe in. Ann believes what she says and she backs it up with what WE like FACTS!

Coulters Contradisagreabloxiousness reminds me..

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 9:58PM EST (link)

of a Girl I used to date…dated once and never called again…

and she is definatly Not missunderstud….

and….she needs to mix in a Cheeseburger….

Is that identity politics...or am I squishy..?

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:01PM EST (link)

See any of my many posts regarding Republican aversion

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:03PM EST (link)

to controversy and confrontation. The Republican distaste for geting in the Ds faces is the reason we’re pretty close to being a permanent minority, maybe simply a footnote.

In Vino Veritas

Yes...I was reading your comments....

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:13PM EST (link)

I like to fight…..but her method really bugs me…

If you asked me if I wish there were more Cons just like her?…

I’d have to say …uggg….she fights like a …girl?…sorry jaded….

I like ‘Reagan’ style Cool tough….?…

I like Achance Alaska tough...lol

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:16PM EST (link)

Wait!......If I wanted to fight for Conservatism...

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 10:19PM EST (link)

all i have to do is walk into the Living Room

 
 

I can't say that I like her in-person style

Achance (Diary) Friday, January 9th at 7:23AM EST (link)

sometimes. I can do arrogant with the best of them, at least on my turf, but she gives arrogant and condescending all new meaning. The hair toss, t@t thrust, and batted eyelashes don’t make it any easier to deal with either.

I like a lot of her written stuff though; she goes straight for their wheelhouse. She understands what most Rs/Conservatives don’t seem to; the Ds view a “shot across the bow” as a miss. Unless you damage them, they ignore you. Foolish Republicans feel compelled to fire that warning shot in the hope that it will make the Ds behave better. They just laugh and say, “you missed.”

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 

Coulter is doing her job, which

AKSteveB (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:05PM EST (link)

is being an entertainer, and selling books. She’s fun, but she makes no difference in actual politics. She’s not going to convince anyone of anything, and those who do like her are likely dyed in the wool right (not to mention for men, she’s every ex we’re trying to forget)

Hell is other people – Sartre

Palin v Coulter....cage match..

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:29PM EST (link)

Palin wins in 30 sec. by headlock submission……although she has a lot of scatches on her face….

 

Gotta admit I like that type though;

Achance (Diary) Friday, January 9th at 12:34AM EST (link)

real nice place to visit, don’t think I’d want to live there though. And yeah, I got some exes that strongly resemble her.

In Vino Veritas

*sigh* the crazies are

AKSteveB (Diary) Friday, January 9th at 2:50AM EST (link)

the hottest in the sack. Show me a borderline personality with schizoid tendencies and she’ll show you paradise right until the restraining order.

Hell is other people – Sartre

 
 
 
 
 

I wouldn't heap the blame on Coleman

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:42AM EST (link)

Sure they could have done more, especially in hindsight (if they had known they were going to be down before the absentees, they would have certainly handled that differently), but they lost through pure thievery in a system stacked against them. It isn’t an option to duplicate that on our side, even if we wanted to. I don’t see how he counteracts that, even with the benefit of hindsight.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

Oh I would

MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:58AM EST (link)

This election shouldn’t have even been CLOSE. Coleman ran as a RINO and everyone knew it. With apologies to the nation at large, most Republicans here in Minnesota would rather spend the next 6 years attacking Franken than defending Coleman. Good riddance.

That being said, this election was stolen. Obviously and flagrantly STOLEN. In a Republic where people actually gave a d4mn anymore, the PUBLIC would prevent Franken from being seated.

*shakes head and walks away*

Yea

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 12:04PM EST (link)

Because in a state that Obama won by 10 freakin points, a guy who ran as an unapologetic Republican would have won in a landside. That is wishful thinking right there.

And I certainly didn’t vote for Franken because “I’d rather spend the next 6 years attacking Franken than defending Coleman,” did you?

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

Stealth not required

MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 12:29PM EST (link)

Better an unapologetic Republican than an apologetic one. Politics in MN is not a simple R vs D thing. People want inspiration. We want leadership. What we don’t want is someone who calls himself a Republican, but votes and talks like a Democrat half the time.

And no I didn’t vote for Franken. I voted for Niemackl, someone who is actually conservative and not afraid to say so.

Franken thanks you for your support

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 12:35PM EST (link)

Don’t think you are like “most Republicans,” though. You voted for a guy who got less than 9,000 votes.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

So does Coleman??

MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 1:06PM EST (link)

It’s thinking like THAT that gets us into this mess in the first place. Don’t be afraid to vote your conscience.

You’re right, I’m not like “most Republicans”.

Thinking like what?

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 1:14PM EST (link)

That we shouldn’t throw our vote away on a 3rd party loser who wouldn’t have a chance of winning a statewide election against a bowling ball? Yea, that is the key to victory right there.

You know, it sure is easy to run as a “true conservative” if you don’t ever have to worry about actually winning an election and having to govern. You can be sure this guy’s positions would moderate overnight if, in some sort of bizzaro-world scenario he managed to win an elected office at a level higher than dog catcher.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the next 6 years of Senator Franken. You sure did your part to bring it about.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

Thinking like that.

MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 1:49PM EST (link)

Throwing your vote away on someone who’s only qualification is that he’s “Less Liberal than the other guy”. That may be the key to a short term “victory” but it’s the roadmap to hell. And of course since it’s the prevailing philosophy it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. But it’s still the wrong thing to do.

Guess it just depends on whether you think being in power is more important than being right. If we prioritize being RIGHT, then being in power will follow naturally as the people learn.

And honestly, the next 6 years is going to be more eventful than I’d like to say. While watching Franken’s antics may be mildly amusing and painfully embarrassing, it will only be a sideshow as Obama leads us into the abyss.

In order to be a good President,

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 4:16PM EST (link)

you must first BE President. I don’t believe in moral victories!

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 

It is just plain stupid to throw away votes

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 1:38PM EST (link)

on quixiotic third parties in a General Election. If you have a problem with a major party, the time to express that is in the Primary. If you don’t like the R or the D, then fine, vote for somebody else. But when the Geneal comes and your choice is between somebody totally awful, somebody only minimally acceptable, and a candidate who will both have no chance of being elected and take votes away from the minimally acceptable candidate, that’s really no choice for a thinking person.

Unfortunately, some states, mine included, let third parties generally or those that meet some threshold showing appear on the General Election ballot without having appeared in the primary. So, people foolishly cast their protest vote in the General. Here in Alaska, that’s how we got Tony Knowles’ first term and how we just got our first Democrat in a federal office in almost thirty years, Sen. Begich.

In Vino Veritas

5 (nt)

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 2:21PM EST (link)

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 

Ross Perot!!!!!

davo119 Thursday, January 8th at 3:21PM EST (link)

There’s a discarded vote that gave us BJ. How different the world might have been without Clinton.

Never give in! Never! Never! Never!

Not to mention Jesse "the moron" Ventura

zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 5:18PM EST (link)

Which you’d think would be enough to cure any thinking MN voter of 3rd party disease… but I guess not.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

I hired an employee from MN a few years back.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 5:59PM EST (link)

She could have been a Valkyrie, tall, blonde, beautiful, smart, and the bane of my life! My God, those Lutherans must toilet train their kids with a 45! That was the most narrow, rigit, uptight, argumentative single human being I’ve ever had the misfortune of having in my employ. She’s the only person over 8 or 10 I’ve ever said “‘Cause I SAID SO” to.

Maybe it’s in the water.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 

Franken winning was good for me

AKSteveB (Diary) Thursday, January 8th at 11:08PM EST (link)

I’m one of these moderates/squishes/fencesitters who pretty much identifies Repub but sometimes wonders why. Then a Franken or a Barney Frank reminds me.

Hell is other people – Sartre