I’m still waiting for a pro-abort to explain that one to me.

…of legalizing abortions at 32 years. Where she is concerned.

What a waste of a clump of cells.

I think people hate this but killing a child that is -6 months or +6 months is essentially killing the same person just a bit older. If you are OK with killing your 6 month old then abortion should sit well with you years later when you think about it from a safe distance. It would be nice if proponents would be honest about how parents feel years later after killing a child of any age.

STOP subsidizing poverty!

Stop SCHIP, food stamps, free housing, free vaccinations for children, free school lunch and breakfast programs, free prenatal care, free day care , WIC, welfare, and on and on and on.

On one hand the Left laments that there are so many poor and on the other they subsidize it through countless poverty programs none of which demand accountability from the recipients. The fact that they subsidize poverty results in countless unwanted pregnancies among young and poor women who are then urged to have abortions.

Stopping the subsidization of poverty will greatly reduce the demand for abortions.

I am curious to find out what would happen to me if she had decided to have an abortion somewhere in the last 34 weeks. We almost had the twins last weekend, I had to fly back from Las Vegas to DC in an emergency to get to my wife and what I thought would be children in ICU. I wasn’t the same once I got that call, so I can imagine my wife’s (or girlfriend hypothetically) decision to abort those children. I guess everyone must wonder why I dropped off the radar here, well wife’s pregnant with twins, that pretty much changes priorities for a period of time. This (redstate) will be my out when the children decide to breath on their own.

I think we should revive one of the moral arguments that has lapsed since the 19th century: that promiscuous women should pay a price for their lack of self-control. It’s unfortunate that the abortion debate concentrates solely on the issue of the life of the fetus when the problem of sexual immorality itself is also important.

you see, in their world, you really have no value. That was the whole idea… Women become equal with men..In oder to do that they had to make
the fetus of no value, so you would not have any input (or control as they see it).
If they could confuse the importance of male and confuse the public on the
viablity of the fetus, they could pitt one against the other.
Try going into a court room as a father agains a mother and gain any custody rights.
But, to those of us who do value the fetus and the father, congratulations, and God bless you and the twins . We will be lifting them up to our Lord in prayer.
He is the healer and protector. May he heal and protect your family.

think the arguments they have presented in any way explain their positions, or make them morally acceptable.

Once you have convinced yourself that unborn babies aren’t human, killing them becomes pretty easy. And the more you do it, the easier it gets.

It’s sort of like the way German soldiers adapted to being assigned to death camps. If these creatures aren’t even human, it’s not so awful to kill them.

is that being a feminist is inherently pro-life. Please spread the word about Feminists For Life (www.feministsforlife.org), whose message is clear, inspirational, on-target, and gives young women who *need* to be *pro-woman* a new reason to be pro-life.

I sat on the fence of, “I think we should have a choice, but it’s not the choice I’d ever make,” for many years. There comes a time when that little voice in your head makes you really take sides. Hopefully, these women, like me, will take the side of the innocent and unborn.

1.) your parents should have aborted you.
2.) read Luke 1:41
3.) truly care about yourself.

fourth girl who had just discovered she was pregnant and thought the “boyfriend” was going to marry her.
The joke was two of the three people talking had also been pregnant by the young man in question and had had their abortions while in high school.
Worse, their “take” on the situation was how foolish and stupid the fourth girl was that she would even THINK of marrying just because she was pregnant.
“Feminists” have not improved the status of women vis a vis sexual attitudes but have simply adopted and substituted libertine adolescent male porno ideals, where women have no value except as sexual tools, women are entirely responsible for their own physical and emotional involvement (such as it is), and women are ultimately abandoned to “choices” in which males are not in any way associated.
Instead of gaining “freedom,” young women have a more oppressive system than the old double standard, where at least men were looked at as having SOME moral knowledge of their actions.
The problem is society has had abortion so long that younger generations are familiar with nothing else and have been taught by a media and school system that values abortion as a casual disposal for idiot actions.

Another winning article/post on this subject Lori Z, thank you again. Here is the argument for which the pro-choicers have absolutely no response primarily because in order to maintain their worldview, they have to have no knowledge of world or American history save the last five minutes or so (and that only as reported to them by CNN). Why did France collapse in 4 weeks 1940 so fast after she had fought & hung on to victory so magnificently in the First World War? Stock Answer: brilliant German battle tactics or chaotic French interwar politics. Real Answer: Between the wars, her birthrate fell to below population replacement, while Germany’s well exceeded population replacement. She was overwhelmed in raw numbers from the get go. Abortion and destruction of the family not only kills babies, it kills nations. And quickly, within a generation sometimes. When we consider all the abortions performed in the US since Roe v Wade, it roughly equals the number of undocumented workers from Mexico.Central America in the US today (“we have the jobs, we just didn’t have enough native borns to take them”). It’s happening today again in Europe – the native populations in Netherlands, France and Germany, -oh and Russia too – are dying out, now hovering at 1.3 replacement rate per putative couple. Who is doing the work? Who is maintaining traditional family in Europe? Millions and millions of immigrant Muslims, of course. By 2050 it’s estimated France will be over 1/3 Muslim. The thousands of new mosques will be well attended; the cathedrals will be museums occasionally visited by tourists (much as they are today). We were offended when France didn’t support us in the Iraq War. We thought it was the French being obstreperous and arrogant to us. No, it was the French terrified they’d have uncontrollable riots, trashed neighborhoods and burning cars on their hands by millions among them. So we see, there is a national and economic interest in this issue. To which the “pro-choicers” have no response but to – as with so many other arguments – dodge, ignore, obfuscate, and call us names.

it makes them feel better to know others do it too. The more normal you can make a behvior the easier it is to bargain with yourself that you have done nothing wrong. I think sometimes that phenomenon is at play in this debate.

morally vacant people must destroy traditional christian moral values. If you have any conscience or moral bearings, you would not accept the premise that promiscuity, which results in creation of life, is something that can be eliminated or ignored, with no destruction to ones conscience. I agree with earlgreay above, some need the excuse that others have done it so it must be OK. It’s like saying that others have robbed banks, so it must be OK.

From what I understand, the woman in Roe v Wade never did have an abortion. She apparently decided that she could not condone the murder of a human being. Yet, we are still stuck with bad law.

They like to masquerade as being truly sad over the “necessity” of having to choose an abortion, but they are not.

The fact that a public service ad which depicts a young woman speaking of how she regrets HER OWN experience with “the procedure” can elicit such rage on the part of people who declare themselves to be supportive of “choice,” only emphasizes their lies. The only choice they favor is abortion. The only choice they defend is abortion. The only choice they tolerate is abortion.

All the while they proclaim they tell us that they do not wish us to impose our morality upon women in a difficult situation, they shriek like stuck pigs at the thought that those of us who speak of innocent life are allowed a voice at all. They certainly have no problem forcing us to accept their morality, since tax dollars have always been used to fund “planned parenthood” – the world’s largest abortion provider. Now with barry’s masterpiece being dragged over the 216 demarcation, the rivers of dollars to fund infanticide will flow into their coffers unrestrained by little beaver dams like Hyde.

Look at the society that the “feminists” have, with their lecherous friend in high places, have constructed. Women were once considered ladies, unless they proved otherwise. Since the sexual devolution, women have become free to say yes, but they can no longer say no. The result? If a man buys a woman dinner, he can expect to “hit that,” or he will walk. His right to intimacy with her is normative, whether he loves her, likes her, or whether he ever wants to see her again.

The “feminists” used to speak of how we were treated as sex objects before we asserted our “rights.” How absurd! NOW we are sex objects. We exist for one reason : sex. Witness the videos from Spring Break or Mardi Gras! Watch MTV. Listen to the lyrics of popular music or rap. Merciful God, they were selling bikinis for children with padded tops until yesterday! 7 year olds with padded bras!

The flotsam and jetsam of the dehumanization of women is not only the 1.5 million babies aborted for the past 40 years. Their mothers too are being washed up onto a shore of desolation. Their have murdered their children, they have violated their own bodies, and have brutalized their consciences and their souls. Worse yet, they are forbidden to speak of their suffering or their regret – dismissed by their victimizers as hypocrites who seek to deny others what they themselves were free to choose.

Were they free? All the data shows that the overwhelming majority of girls and women who have chosen abortion have done so at someone else’s bidding. The boyfriend, the husband, the parents, the boyfriend’s parents – one, sometimes several of these people pressure a vulnerable woman – and every pregnant woman is vulnerable, as any mom can attest – to kill her child. Not because they are thinking of the child, and not because they are thinking of the mother. They have issues and agendas which are not compatible with a baby, period.

If they succeed, they do not have to live with the consequences of this “wonderful, liberating gift of freedom.” The mother does. Some women are better at seeming to cope. Many of these become rabid supporters of abortion, probably to deny their guilt, and to lie to themselves that it was not the fix it seemed. Many more, thousands more, nay millions more, grapple with this “choice” every day, most alone. The boyfriend or husband she did this for usually leaves within a year. The parents “know” that their daughters lives are better without the burden. Everybody’s happy.

Only the childless mothers know. Members of this once silent group suffer from disorders ranging from post-traumatic stress, alcoholism, drug addiction, depression, inability to bond with any subsequent children, Inability to conceive, breast cancer, ectopic pregnancy to suicide. The lucky ones find Silent No More or Rachel’s Vineyard.

Less than 1% of all abortions are for victims of rape and incest. Both are reprehensible acts. We obviously condemn them. As difficult as these things are, we cannot yield on this issue. the harm to the mother’s well-being are far too grave.

And the infant in her womb is a human being. It is , as the abortionists say, the object of conception, in this case a baby. The object of all conceptions animal or human, are offspring. The offspring of each species is a young member of that species. Cats cannot conceive emus. Wildebeests do not conceive squirrels. In this amazingly ordered universe of ours, creatures produce young of their own kind, and ONLY of their own kind.

Human beings conceive human beings.

So, is the conceived human being alive? Forget neonatology. Forget fetology. Forget ultra-sound. Go back to Sesame Street, where they teach pre-schoolers that if something grows, it’s alive, (the core dictum of the field of biology, where there is growth, there’s life).

So we have a living, human being. Period. Everything, including the real harm to the mother is secondary, as important as it is. Either we accept that killing a baby is an acceptable way to solve a problem, or we do not. I firmly believe that a nation which murders its children is not only doomed, its already dead. That’s why we go on fighting this evil.

If I commit and armed robbery and shoot a pregnant bystander and the lady and the child both die I will be charged with two murders. Also, such a crime in many states would would carry the death penalty as particularly heinous or because the baby was killed.

Why is the death of this child a “murder” of a child and an Abortion on Demand (AOD) of a viable fetus, particularly in the 2nd or 3rd trimester, is not.???
Is abortion (AOD) not a “willful” act of the Mother that results in the death of her child???
Isn’t the Clinic (eg Planned Parenthood) the “broker” providing/hiring the “shooter”???
Isn’t the Doctor/Abortionist the “Shooter”/agent performing the actual deed???
How does this differ from any “Hired Killing”???

A second question: How can the same people defend the practice of Abortion on Demand (killing an unborn or partially born child) and condemn Capital Punishment, specifically the Death Penalty, as wrong, primitive and a social abomination??? Schizophrenia maybe.
PC is Thought Control

PS, Yes, a majority of these “mother”/killers suffer some psychological trauma following an abortion of their child.