The Hyperbole Surrounding AZ’s New Law; Talk About Epistemic Closure!


I figured that I may as well jump on the new buzz word band wagon and use the term epistemic closure. Even though I’m totally not into the term. It sounds icky and like something contagious. Nevertheless, epistemic closure is pretty much what all of the hysterical, over the top shrieking about Arizona’s law is; the result of living in a vacuum and being so ideologically close-minded that you have no problem accepting, and repeating, misinformation. The need to be righteously indignant takes over any logic or reason.

Even sports writers are getting into the mix, asking the heads of sports  leagues to boycott Arizona. It’s infuriating and not just because it is forcing me to write about sporty things. Says Kevin Blackistone, a national sports columnist:

The University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Ariz., should lose the BCS National Championship Game scheduled to be played there next January unless Arizona legislators rescind soon and for good an anti-immigration law they just passed that gives police the right to stop and search for documents anyone police suspect of being in the country illegally.

After all, that law means racially profiling people who appear to be Hispanic, no matter what Arizona lawmakers claim. That means making an entire group of people, as the NCAA spokesman said, uncomfortable in Arizona because of their heritage. That’s unquestionably wrong.

We all should be uncomfortable with that, however. As Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles wrote earlier this month, comparing the law to Nazi Germany: “The Arizona legislature just passed the country’s most retrogressive, mean-spirited, and useless anti-immigrant law.

He then goes on to try to tie in apartheid and the tired, old bashing of South Carolina and the Confederate flag. Yawn.

First, Mr. Blackistone (who calls himself Professor on twitter) should read the actual law before spouting off about it.  Or, in the alternative, he should stick to writing about sports and the successes of others. That’s far preferable than resorting to the sad Godwining of oneself by pulling the Nazi card.

He’s not alone there; Joy Behar, in one of her standard fits of hysterical and inane shrieking, also broke out the Hitler card. (there is a video clip at the link, if you choose to expose yourself to it. I can’t in good conscience force one to be subjected to her. She’s enough to make me a misogynist):

On her April 26 broadcast,  HLN’s Joy Behar suggested the new Arizona immigration law that would allow local law enforcement to arrest immigrants unable to produce documents showing they are allowed to be in the U.S. is comparable to “World War II Germany.”

“Do you think it’s kind of – doesn’t it feel like sort of Nazism a little bit?” Behar asked. “I don’t want to overstate it, but ‘may I see your papers,’ you know?”

It’s not surprising that Behar is clueless, as always. This is the same woman who said that a black President is “traumatic” for white men. No, Joy. While many know that Obama’s policies and the Left’s agenda are traumatic for the country, most people don’t focus on the density of a person’s melanin count. It’s a thing called equality. We treat everyone the same way. Post-racial; y’all should try it sometime.

Which brings us to Obama and his irresponsible and erroneous comments regarding the Arizona law.

The president said, “you can try to make it really tough on people who look like they, quote, unquote look like illegal immigrants. One of the things that the law says is that local officials are allow to ask somebody who they have a suspicion might be an illegal immigrant for their papers — but you can imagine if you are a Hispanic American in Arizona, your great, great grandparents may have been there before Arizona was even a state. But now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you’re going to be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.”

What? I’m no constitutional lawyer, but even I know that is baloney. So, not only is the President of the United States purposely trying to sway public opinion against a state, but he is doing so with false information.

As Allahpundit notes, people who have read, and understand, the bill have weighed in and put that issue to bed. Byron York explains in his article refuting Obama’s statement that the statute “threaten[s] to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans.” Note that Obama is concerned only with “fairness”.

What fewer people have noticed is the phrase “lawful contact,” which defines what must be going on before police even think about checking immigration status. “That means the officer is already engaged in some detention of an individual because he’s violated some other law,” says Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri Kansas City Law School professor who helped draft the measure. “The most likely context where this law would come into play is a traffic stop.”

Gee, no mention of randomly harassing people slurping on ice cream cones there. He goes onto say:

Has anyone actually read the law? Contrary to the talk, it is a reasonable, limited, carefully-crafted measure designed to help law enforcement deal with a serious problem in Arizona. Its authors anticipated criticism and went to great lengths to make sure it is constitutional and will hold up in court. It is the criticism of the law that is over the top, not the law itself.

Bingo. And there is your epistemic closure. It’s a carefully measured law, wherein a state is desperately trying to fix a problem that is devastating to their state. Instead of reading the law and actually trying to grasp an understanding of it, the immediate reaction is to fly off the handle, full of righteous indignation, and screech Nazi and Racists ™ ! Meanwhile, the only laws on the books that I am aware of in regards to skin pigmentation or ethnicity are laws that grant the same extra protection.

This is exactly why there is no having a dialogue with the left. Intellectual honesty isn’t their strong suit. Of course, this wouldn’t even be an issue if the federal government was doing its job — its primary job, in my opinion — and protecting our borders, not leaving states to resort to trying to do it themselves with far more limited resources.

That’s not really “fair”, is it, Obama? I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to address that honestly, however. I know how you can’t spare your laser-like focus — on yourself.

(cross-posted at NewsReal)


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I can understand why men are misogynistic

Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Wednesday, April 28th at 5:32PM EDT (link)

toward Behar and the like. Her idiotic comments and shrewish behavior make us all look bad. Great article.

The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)

 

The uproar is all about politics and demonization,

Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 28th at 6:24PM EDT (link)

not at all about logic.

The law does at least two basic things: First, it creates a state statute that exactly follows the federal law, and it instructs Arizona police officers to enforce the law IF they have already engaged someone whom they reasonably believe might be in the country illegally. The idea that this will result in widespread loss of civil rights is ludicrous. The essentially same law has been on the federal books for years, only the feds can go looking for miscreants; Arizona peace officers can’t.

Second, it eliminates sanctuary cities in Arizona. That is, it prohibits AZ cities from refusing to enforce the state or federal laws regarding illegal presence in Arizona.

Somebody please tell my why anybody would want someone in the country illegally to remain here. Please. Anybody.

Behar and Blackistone are either fools or intent on deception. Or both.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

The answer is 'votes'

Jonas Parker Wednesday, April 28th at 8:20PM EDT (link)

The left cannot win without millions of new leftist voters. It is that simple. Obama probably has some genuine kneejerk reactions to things that even remotely smack of race-consiousness by the majority, but what got him and his cadres *really* cranked on this is that conciousness of illegals, requirements for identification, etc affects voting. The left has done everything in their power for years, very successfully, to eliminate the need to identify one’s self when voting. The more illegals vote, the greater the chances of the left remaining in power.

So, this struggle is not just for security of our persons and property from illegals, it is as much or more about who will constitute the electorate.

Seems a simple, logical idea that voters should be citizens, doesn’t it ? Ha !! The left will bury that idea if they can, because if we trend in the direction of enforcing voting requirements, the left is dead meat at the polls.

Yep.

Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 28th at 9:29PM EDT (link)

Politics and demonization.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 
 
 

To Answer the Question

msctex (Diary) Wednesday, April 28th at 6:34PM EDT (link)

“Somebody please tell my why anybody would want someone in the country illegally to remain here. Please. Anybody.”

Because it sounds like the nice thing to do. There need not be any thought behind the opinion, no reasoning, logic or even a fundamental grasp of the facts of the matter. The new law just sounds mean. And when certain aspects of one’s mental development arrest at about the age of nine, that is all one needs to hear. It doesn’t matter how innocent Arizonians are harmed by illegal immigration, or if one would react differently if put in their shoes. All that matters is that a Progressive/Liberal get sto feel good about themselves for having a Correct opinion. It is how they achieve Virtue.

Again,

Jonas Parker Wednesday, April 28th at 8:22PM EDT (link)

*It’s the VOTES* more than the ‘feel good’.

Realistically,

msctex (Diary) Friday, April 30th at 10:32AM EDT (link)

The “Feel Goods” provide the base for the self-styled aristocrats who still need the VOTES, much to their consternation. The latter fan the flames of the formers’ misguided view of the world.

All that is true, however,

Flagstaff (Diary) Sunday, May 2nd at 12:13AM EDT (link)

there seem to be plenty of people who are able to handle complex sentences but who are unable to see the immediate logical extension of what they are protesting for.

I don’t know which is worse–that they are brain-dead stupid, simply selfish in their quest for a feel-good moment, or that they are cynically exploiting the daily tragedies that take place in Arizona.

I guess the full answer to the Why? question is “all of the above,” with stupidity being at the top of the list.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 
 
 
 

Start a vacation in AZ campaign

renny (Diary) Wednesday, April 28th at 7:29PM EDT (link)

and don’t buy San Fran/CA wine, as the sophisticated and urbane mayor for SF has announced a boycott of AZ. Boycott the boycott.

No country in the world allows illegals to wander around, work when they want, indulge in social services, and give citizenship to their children. Mexico beats up Guatemalans at their border. Mx has warned its citizens not to go to AZ. Good, now TX, NM, and CA need to have the same laws as AZ, which are exacty the fed. laws that aren’t enforced, just duplicated on the state level.

Graham has dropped off sponsoring the “immigration reform” krap, saying the Dems. lied to him. I’m shocked, shocked.

little o should just keep making these boner statements (the Sup, Ct. ruling on corporate donations overturning a “century of establishd law” when o is supposed to be a Const. scholar–I think the average tea party retiree can quote the Const. better) because eventually even the MSM, as a few more 1000s get laid off, will realize what jerk their puppet master is.

 

This is just one more stick

azred (Diary) Wednesday, April 28th at 7:34PM EDT (link)

the left is using to beat others who disagree with them. The left, the media, the POTUS, and of course all of the ‘Civil Rights’ champions have a real problem with the law and the right to defend your property (at a personal and a state level).

Yell loud enough and long enough, the truth will never see the light of day. And they will collectively attempt to do so.

My response to any that go down this path is to quickly call them out. Question if they have read the bill. Question if they have any idea of the reality within 60 miles of the border. This usually results in stammering and name calling.
Then question them if they believe that non-citizens who commit murder, rape, burglary, home invasions, human and drug trafficking and a host of other crimes should not be prosecuted.
And then ask them what THEY are doing about these problems that exist and are brutalizing us here in AZ.

Crickets.

Agree

Jonas Parker Wednesday, April 28th at 8:27PM EDT (link)

I hope I am not being overly optimistic, but this time it smells different to me. I don’t think their screaming is going to work. I think this time its the right time for the fight. Heck, if we can’t win this, we can’t probably win anything significant, because as my comments above imply, this is a pivotal issue of security *and* the integrity of the electoral system.

Hey, did I see you on stage at Diablo Stadium two weeks ago ? You from ‘north Phx’ ?

 
 

Texas and Oklahoma need to pass similar laws

secondpatriot76 Wednesday, April 28th at 8:57PM EDT (link)

If Texas and Oklahoma pass similar laws the illegals will all go to California or New Mexico. Then we will see how they deal with this problem.

scott