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Fox covering Ohio voting irregularities

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Fox is covering the voting issues in OH:

Transcript after the jump:

GRETCHEN CARLSON: Let’s talk to you about a story out in Ohio, I believe, Columbus. Of course Ohio we were just talking about, one of the most important battleground states there, and they started this controversial program this week where people could come and register to vote and vote at the exact same time before you could actually try and prove where they actually live, if they are actually residents, or if they’re just Mary Poppins.  Well now there is a report coming out by Shelby Holiday from palestra.net where she says that she was going to do some reporting on what she thought was going to be a lot of students coming to register to vote.  But what she ended up seeing were bus loads of homeless people being brought into these places and registering and voting.  And she joins us now on the phone from Columbus, Ohio.  Good morning to you.

STEVE DOOCY: Shelby?  Shelby?  Shelby, are you there?

SHELBY HOLLIDAY: I went down to go do a story and was down at vets memorial in Columbus, Ohio.  I saw all but about two students in the 30 minutes I was there.  The young people that I did interview were telling me that they were with organizations who were picking homeless people off the streets and bringing them to the polls and encouraging them to vote.  So, check this sound bite out.

DOOCY: Shelby, I understand.  Ok, let’s listen to the sound bite, sorry.

PERSON 1: We’re running a free vote taxi program.  We will come and pick you up at your house.  Drop you off wherever you want.

PERSON 2: And people at the bus stop asked them if they’re registered to vote.  And if they weren’t I said “get in the car I’m bringing you.”

PERSON 3: See me walking around and stuff so they said “hey, man you want to vote?”  And I said yeah I’ll vote.  I said, he said, “man I’ll take you anywhere you want. I said “that’s cool.”

PERSON 4: It’s fast and the people are very polite, and they explained, you know, all about it.

PERSON 3: I mean, if they say “sign the ballot,” just give them and do exactly what they ask you to do.  I mean, hey, this is America.  Know what I mean?

DOOCY: Shelby, so these organizers who are picking up all these people, what are they telling them to do?  If they are bringing them out of a homeless shelter, what are they telling them is in it for them?

HOLLIDAY: Well, organizers, when I spoke with the organizers, they said they are trying to help those, it might be a little move tough for them to vote this year.  They want them to get out and vote and want them to exercise their right to vote.  So the organizers are just really trying to help people who don’t have IDs or don’t have a permanent address to get out there and cast ballots.

BRIAN KILMEADE: Do you think that some of them, while they’re driving out there, are telling them who to vote for?

HOLLIDAY: Well, no, all the people I spoke with that they were bipartisan.  But when I talked with the homeless people, it became apparent that they were being offered rides to whoever they wanted or, I’m not, I can’t — it did not appear that these homeless people… Most of them did not know exactly what was going on.

DOOCY: Alright, Shelby Holliday from palestra.net. We thank you very much.  We understand from her blog at palestra.net Shelby also said that the people who winding up there, they didn’t have to prove they lived in the state.  In fact, she talked to one guy who was about to get on a bus to go to Chicago, Illinois where he lived.  All they had to do was give four numbers.

CARLSON: Well this is the whole problem with the whole thing, and this is why it went to the highest levels of the court.  Because with Ohio being, really frankly any state, but with Ohio being such a close state, is this right?  You be the judge.

 

Update: Shelby Holliday follows up with more on the Democrats’ effort to get the homeless to vote:

COMMENTS

  • liberalrepublican

    A few hundred years ago, you needed to own property to vote.

    But not now.

    What is wrong with homeless people voting?

  • Maggie_in_Indiana

    I got first hand from a student at Ohio U. They are getting out the vote for class credit.
    Some wear Obama buttons or just buttons with donkey emblem,some don’t.

    They are going to nursing homes and picking up elderly (nice right) but they have a number of cards they use for idenity if they don;t have any. Many immigrants are given the same opportunity even if they cannot prove citizenship.

    Some the students are using their own library cards and utility bills,Fraternal order Elks,moose,police,shriners,ect. cards.(proof you live in the state)

    The homeless are given PBJ sandwiches and juice boxes to entice them. The source student says many of the homeless are very wary of getting in a car or bus unless you give them something.

    May sound all good and a little shady but no matter how you look at it the majority of votes obtained like this are for Obama.

    • cmcanfield32

      Everyone has a right to vote.

      If they are 18 or older.

      If they are US Citizens.

      If they are not felons.

      Where are the safeguards against these possible, maybe likely, types of fraud?

  • Enorman

    Couldn’t agree more, liberairepublican.

    Are they saying that homeless people are going to swing this election by voting multiple times?

    • cmcanfield32

      ….anyone can vote multiple times.

      Systems like the ones described make it easier and on a pervasive scale, broadening the fraud’s impact.

      It’s insidious and wrong.

      • Enorman

        Prove this:

        “Many immigrants are given the same opportunity even if they cannot prove citizenship.”

        • Shibby

          It appears that the accepted perception on this site is that there is something fundamentally wrong and illegal about this program. However I would be very interested in seeing data on the incidence of voter fraud in my state. The assumption here seems to be that it is massive and invariably in favor of Democratic candidates. Does anyone have additional information on if this is truly a serious problem?

  • scottbomb

    No verification that you are who you say you are and you live where you say you live. If you had to show a state-issued ID with your picture on it, and had to provide that ID # on your voter registration, this could help to make sure that you aren’t able to go vote again on the other side of town. If there were common-sense standards like this in place (and Democrats say they like “common-sense”, right?) then I’d have no problem with them busing in whoever they want.

    Unfortunately, this story doesn’t make that case. Instead, it simply paints us Republicans as being meanies who don’t want the homeless to “excercise their right to vote”. HOGWASH!

    • liberalrepublican

      If you are going to claim voting fraud, then show voting fraud.

      Tell me exactly which person is this story is under 18 or illegal or a felon.

      Connect the dots for me. I can’t tell just by looking at them.

  • Nic2884

    “I got first hand from a student at Ohio U. They are getting out the vote for class credit. Some wear Obama buttons or just buttons with donkey emblem,some don’t.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~“
    I went to OU. It is one of the most liberal of liberal colleges, and not only that, but they are militant and vindictive to conservatives, and they try to intimidate and suppress and at all costs.

    In 04, profs were excusing students’ absences for Kerry events and not for Bush events. Any flier or sidewalk chalk or anything not touting the liberal manifesto were torn down immediately. There is no respect there. And the professors do not even stand up for their students in the face of this unfairness. In fact, most of the professors would go on their liberal rants at least 2 or 3 times a week. Try studying politics there–it was a nightmare.

    • cmcanfield32

      Actually, I think you do get it. You just don’t care.

      Rather than split hairs with you, I’ll just ask this:

      Isn’t the massive risk of voter fraud enough to justify acting to prevent it?

      How is potential voter fraud being prevented in Ohio right now?

      • Enorman

        Helping people who cannot get to the polls by themselves is wrong?

        You think it’s insidious and wrong because you assume all of these people are voting for Obama.

        You have no proof of this.

        I would love to see more people vote for this election than who voted for the last American Idol. No matter who they vote for.

        • NightTwister

          • Moe_Lane
          • KhenZarovich

            ..here is that this sort of thing can greatly increase the chance of voter fraud. The apparent lack of oversight into these processes also support this idea.

            It has nothing whatsoever to do with “not wanting the homeless to vote”, which is absurd.

            I want everyone able to vote. I also want a system that does not encourage voter fraud.

          • cmcanfield32

            You’ve been blammed, so I don’t expect an answer, but I sure as hell am not going to let an idiot like you get the last word in response.

            You’re excellent at putting words in people’s mouths. I recommend you take a class in the principles of logic immediately.

            First, I never said helping people get to the polls is wrong. Being deliberately obtuse isn’t going to score you points. Try to keep up with the argument I am actually making instead of constructing strawmen like Liberalrepublican.

            Second, I never said I assumed they were all voting for Obama. I’m guessing you assume that they are, though, and you’re projecting that onto me.

            I said that what’s happening is insidious and wrong because it encourages voter fraud. That’s it. Do you deny that shipping people with no identification and verifiable address to various polling places doesn’t encourage voter fraud?

            The Ohio Secretary of State has declared that poll watchers can be turned away. There is proof that they have been. According to her, “casting a ballot” is not the same as “voting.”

            This is abject nonsense and is a very thin smokescreen designed to obscure something. If that something isn’t voter fraud, then why is the Ohio Secretary of State forbidding oversight and ignoring state law that requires 30 days between registration and voting?

            Those 30 days are essential to ensure that the registered voter 1) is a citizen 2) lives in the district 3) is of voting age 4) is not a felon. When you don’t take those safeguards, you encourage voter fraud.

          • rachael

            There’s little point in trying to restrict people from voting (putting up more barriers, demanding more papers) due to worries of voter fraud when it’s not apparent much is going on. The very few documented and proven cases I’ve seen have mostly been cases of a person trying to make a point (stupidly registering their dog to vote) or people who were genuinenly confused about where to register, whether they could, etc. The latter is solved by more education, not demanding papers and identification many people don’t have.

            Also, given how many irregularities there are in our very disparate voting systems — spoiled ballots, random changes to votes (especially in electronic systems) and the like — the number of actual fraudulent votes is likely to be just a very small amount of noise in the system, likely far less significant than the many other problems in our voting system.

            No, it’s not ideal to have it be possible to have voter fraud, but given that voter fraud is apparently quite low (despite how easy it appears to be!), I think the costs of increasing the number of people who won’t vote or can’t (despite being legally allowed to) is far greater than that from voter fraud.

          • 29Victor

            I live in Washington State. We don’t have voting booths anymore, everyone votes by mail-in ballot.

            For over a decade I worked in group homes and assisted living programs taking care of mentally ill and developmentally disabled adults, I also worked in a nursing home for a while.

            My coworkers were usually evenly split between lefties and far-lefties (except in the nursing home).

            Now everyone has the right to vote, every non-felon over 21 (is it 18 or 21?) in America, including my previous clients right? Even if they couldn’t spell their own name or form a coherent sentence or thought. So the supervisors (lefties) would make sure that the clients would get signed up to vote (which I think is a good thing) and then they would be “assisted” in their voting by my coworkers or my supervisors.

            Can you see where this is going?

            Some of these clients had a hard time forming a coherent thought and most of them had not a clue about politics or even the electoral system in America. Many of them, I’m sure, had no idea why someone was getting them to make their mark on one more piece of paper. And the ones who did could easily be influenced by someone telling them that Republicans wanted to take their funding and Democrats wanted to make sure they were okay.

            But they voted (with some assistance). Dozens or hundreds of them. And I know it’s going on all over my state. I can only picture the nursing homes getting stacks and stacks of mail-in ballots just ripe for the picking.

            Nothing new.

          • aaronbg

            Although the “known” amount of voter fraud is low, we can’t really determine the affect it has. If we mitigate the risks we can focus on the actual cases of fraud and other voting irregularities. Allow these practices to go unmitigated exacerbates the issue.

          • KhenZarovich

            It’s not a question of more restrictions, but more oversight into a clearly questionable process that’s going on in Ohio.

            It’s not apparent what’s going on, that is one of the main points. The lack of oversight into this process is what is many people have issue with. Again, no one wants to deny someone their legal right to vote, only that it be done in such a way as to minimize any possibility of problems.

            That doesn’t seem to be the case in Ohio.

          • scottbomb

            Then again, I can just see ACORN waiting around the corner with gasoline to take off the ink.

          • rachael

            As if you or I registered (presuming neither of us are homeless) — there is a form you fill out, the local government does whatever it does (I don’t know what the rules are in Ohio), etc. What more oversight do you expect?

          • Achance

            There is massive voter fraud in the Blue States and, especially, the Democrat controlled cities. The reason so little is prosecuted, and when it is, it is just some fool registering his dog, is that the Ds control the DAs. Nothing is a crime if nobody investigates or prosecutes it. In states where the whole system is politicized, even the courts are in on it. The best example is the Washington SC’s perverse decision in the compelled dues case there; that was absolutely a state SC playing Democrat politics to keep all the union money in play for the Ds. Fortunately, the USSC overturned them, but there is no enforcement under Gregoire, who owes her soul and her office to the unions and their King Cty. fraud machine.

            ACORN and their union friends are engaged this year is what is essentially a coup d’etat, and if the Ds have both the WH and the Congress, nothing will be done about all the fraud.

          • rachael

            I dislike doing things about problems that aren’t actually problems. There’s no evidence there is much voter fraud at all. The usual suggestions for mitigating what risk there is (state-issued ID cards being the most common) are very hard on people who for various reasons can’t get or find it difficult to get them. The old lady who’s been voting most of her life and doesn’t have a birth certificate. Or the man who lives way out in the country and it’s hard for him to get to a DMV. And so forth.

            It should be noted that the most common known form of fraudulent registration is actually people doing registration drives and being paid per registration — the incentive to make registrations up is high. But those “registered voters” obviously never vote.

          • Uma_Richie

            Oh never mind, same argument, different issue.

          • rachael

            Something more than just asserting a vast conspiracy in democrat-leaning states … I think it more likely the populace in those areas just leans democratic. No need to have fraudulent votes to keep democrats in power if people grew up voting democratic (in cities anyway) and just keep with it.

          • aaronbg

            This old lady with no birth cert…is she on social security? If so she should be able to provide enough proof needed to vote. You have to id risks and mitigate those risks regardless. In the mitigation process you can protect the voter at the same time as protecting the vote. In this specific scenario we have people registering and voting on the same day. Granted all the ballots should be verified, but there are also time constraints that limit how long the verification process can take. Since there will be an influx of fraudulent ballots due to this practice it will take more time to verify those ballots. If the polling places have to spend time on verifying fraudulent ballots and not confirming valid ballots they will end up running out of time before they have to send their vote counts to the Sec. of State. This leads to every valid vote not being counted or reported. The idea is to obfuscate the process just enough to affect the overall percentage of the vote.

            Unfortunately I believe you are already familiar with all of this, and are being a moby in your comments. At this point, depending on your next reply, I will be ignoring you.

          • Achance

            you need to change your registration, because you can’t really espouse the postions that you routinely adopt here and be happy in the Republican Party.

  • paparobbie

    I live in Florida. In 2000 my legal address was a loft over my companies warehouse I had converted into a rather lavish apartment. My registration card had this address on it but I was not allowed to vote because the land at said address was not zoned residential. Clearly there was a problem. State law now only requires a drivers license or state issued ID to register and vote. I think homeless people should have this right but if Ohio is allowing individuals with no form of ID to vote, how do they monitor potential fraud.

    • Dave_in_Fla

      I seem to recall a few ACORN folks getting into a little hot water over voter fraud.

      See this Wall Street Journal story from 2006.

      Logic would indicate that it can happen in Ohio too, especially when there are no controls. But then you might be someone who doesn’t lock her doors because there is no evidence of you being personally burglarized.

  • Strelnikov

    …it is not hard to find. When I lived in Toledo, this was a fairly big story involving the NAACP and exchanging crack cocaine for voter registrations:

    http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041019/NEWS09/410190343

    That was from 2004 and probably just the iceberg’s proverbial proboscis.

    For present-day attempts specifically by Ohio ACORN, 5 curious attempts have already been caught and thrown out:

    http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/08/cuyahogaboardprobesvoterre.html

    Given the amorality ruling such a group, I am sure there will be more than just 5!

    • Achance

      with firsthand knowledge of the Gregoire-Rossi election and how it was stolen. Lots of first hand knowledge about how union dues are raised and spent. Lots of firsthand knowledge during my misspent youth of how unions run elections and GOTV efforts; you just count ‘em till you get ‘em right.

      • rachael

        A left winger is also likely to say “well, I have lots of friends with first-hand knowledge of X” where X is things like “voter intimadation in Ohio”, “not being allowed to register”, “machines flipping votes”, etc. Without some credible widespread reporting, it’s not going to convince most people.

        And, I don’t believe that bad election behavior (either fraudulent votes or boards of elections that do illegal things) is a mere partisan thing. Why would we think a conservative dominated board of elections in some area wouldn’t misuse their power? Are conservatives immune from that?

        As for the “count it till it fits” business — in most places I’ve lived in votes are counted either by machines or people and the election is run by voters hired by thelocal board of elections (I’ve worked the polls) and partisan officials of all parties can be present at any step of the process. How in this day could a union just keep counting till it fits? If they do, then where the h#1! are the partisan observers? I admit some board of elections shenanigans goes on, but I don’t think it is uniformly in favor of one party or another. And in general it’s so a local power structure can keep in power, not because they have (D) or (R) after their name.

        • Maggie_in_Indiana

          If you wear an Obama button,shirt,ect. you get in free.Then it’s all out beer and GOP slamming. This girl ( the student) was raised in Conservative families and had conservative values until she went back to school this year.

          I can’t believe some of the things she says. People are free to express and have their beliefs,but this was an immediate change. The movement on the campus’s is real.

  • Suzy

    The reporter from Palestra was so inarticulate, I’m not really sure what is going on in Ohio. Where on earth did she go to journalism school and did she flunk out?

    If all they are doing is picking up people to register to vote and they are filling out PROVISIONAL ballots that won’t be counted until after their status (age, residency, citizenship, felony) is verified, I don’t have a problem with it.

    However, it is my understanding that the secretary of state (a DEMOCRAT of course) rammed through changes to the law at the last minute in coordination with the Obama campaign.

    Are they picking up senior citizens (who heavily favor McCain) or blacks (who favor Obama 99/1)? The tape tells the tale. . .

    • rachael

      The problem isn’t ACORN in this case, it’s that they pay people for registrations. People are stupid and greedy and will make false registrations. ACORN itself doesn’t condone that, though they probably shouldn’t pay people for registrations. However a lot of organizations that try to get more people registered (across the political spectrum) pay people per registration. ACORN just is a nice organization we can blame for what happens across the board when people get paid per registration.

      • Strelnikov

        “For Those Who Want Evidence…”

  • Achance

    You need two lists: one is a list of real people who are registered but probably won’t vote, e.g., people signed up in homeless shelters, at the welfare office, at the UI office, etc., and a list of people who are registered but who don’t actually exist, you can only do this in a state where there is not ID requirement or where you control the election officials.

    Your poll watchers check off each person who votes from the registered voter list for the precinct and from their special list. As you get close to closing time, you start voting your list of people who haven’t voted. You call the union hall or GOTV office and they bring over a van load of voters each of whom is given a name to vote under. There’s some risk in this since the person might show up, but your voter voted first, so the real voter has to vote a challenged or provisional ballot that can be thrown away by your friendly canvas board. That way you pump up your city vote to overcome the votes of the rubes in the suburbs and rural areas. If it is really tight and you really need votes, you start voting the people who don’t exist at all and if necessary you start howling about how people are being deprive of the right to vote by the incompetent election officials jamming up the polls and the too early closing, you can always find a sympathetic SoS or judge to give you an extra hour or two to run your vans around to gin up more votes. These votes aren’t really necessary to control the city usually, they are purely and simply to overwhelm the votes of the rubes.

    Presuming your guy wins you have nothing to worry about from local law enforcement and only a little from the Fed since you can always tune up a good racism screech and a Republican Administration will run away with its tail between its legs. Actually, you don’t usually even have to screech about racism, you just have to say the Rs are being partisan and mean spirited and they run away.

  • ReyDLT

    Having grown up in Chicago I am very familiar with voter fraud. And since Chicago is a Democrat controlled city, there is no question of who is doing it.

    Here is an example of recent activity.

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Legalissues/lm23.cfm

    • rachael

      “This old lady with no birth cert…is she on social security? If so she should be able to provide enough proof needed to vote.”

      In my state, a social security card is not enough to get a driver’s license or state ID (which is the usual ID suggested). It requires the aforementioned birth certificate (official copy — notarized, etc.) and proof of residence and some other things (including social security card). These are not always easy for a person of limited means to get.

      “In this specific scenario we have people registering and voting on the same day. …”

      I admit the problems with same-day register and voting though obviously since this is pre-voting they can hold counting until registrations go through the normal process (which is what I expect would happen). Some states allow same day registration (or none at all) on election day — this is in some sense how it “used to be”. It’s hard for me to say this is bad because if you live in a neighborhood and everyone knows you, why shouldn’t the poll worker (who probably lives near by) let you vote? It just bothers me that in order to prevent something that may not be happening in significant numbers (actual votes counted from people who aren’t legal to vote) we prevent many people from registering or voting.

      “Unfortunately I believe you are already familiar with all of this, and are being a moby in your comments. At this point, depending on your next reply, I will be ignoring you.”

      I don’t even know what a moby is. May I presume it’s an insult?

      • aaronbg

        Here is the deal, first you say there is no proof of fraud and demand proof of it’s existence, evidence is provided and you then shift and say that the amount of fraud is an inconsequential amount and not enough to justify regulating, then I provide justification for the regulation by showing the obfuscation and resulting exacerbation, then once again you shift positions from saying no fraud is prevalent to the assumption that we are preventing valid voters from voting without providing any proof.

        So which is it. Can’t have it both ways. Is there enough preventing of valid votes to justify the loosening of voting standards? Is there enough possible voter fraud to justify the limited number of actual valid votes that are prevented from being counted.

        • rachael

          Are you sure those are really evidence of an organized conspiracy by liberal organizations to get fraudulent votes cast? Submitting fraudulent registrations is a way for someone to make a buck (or it seems feed a drug habit). No one actually uses those registrations (that is, no one casts a vote for even a successful fraudulent registration) because the purpose is for the guy signing people up to make money without actually working (that is, convincing someone to register). Such people are defrauding the organizations paying them as well as public.

          • JSobieski

            no evidence of voter fraud is ever sufficient.

            How do liberals sleep at night? They are so screwed up, they don’t even know it.

          • rachael

            “Here is the deal, first you say there is no proof of fraud and demand proof of it’s existence, evidence is provided and you then shift and say that the amount of fraud is an inconsequential amount and not enough to justify regulating,”

            The evidence provided so far is:

            • some people are willing to file false registration papers for money
            • some people have rumors from friends that bad stuff happened in an election

            That doesn’t seem like a lot of evidence to me.

            “then I provide justification for the regulation by showing the obfuscation and resulting exacerbation, then once again you shift positions from saying no fraud is prevalent to the assumption that we are preventing valid voters from voting without providing any proof.”

            It’s a pretty easy inference to say requiring state id (as an example) from people who don’t already have it will prevent some people to vote. I don’t think I need proof that that’s the case, but in Indiana (where the SC did uphold the case ID law), the number of voters without the “right” ID is somewhere between 25,000 and 400,000 depending on who you ask. That’s a lot of people. Remembering how hard it was for me to get a driver’s license (I didn’t have a birth certificate at the time), I can imagine how hard it would be for someone who works long hours and/or is very poor. Likely they would just give up.

            “Is there enough preventing of valid votes to justify the loosening of voting standards? Is there enough possible voter fraud to justify the limited number of actual valid votes that are prevented from being counted.”

            I don’t know. The problem is actually in stopping people from even trying to register (since most places you do have to register a certain number of days before an election). I am not actually sure where I firmly stand on the current trend to requiring state ID. I have the “right” id, so it doesn’t affect me. I am just made very uncomfortable by the idea that someone wouldn’t bother because they think it will be hard to get the right proof they are legal (when they’ve lived here their whole life!) It smacks too much of requiring everyone to have papers. Worse, we didn’t need this ten years ago and there’s no evidence of increased fraudulent votes (not just false registrations used to bilk money out of organizations doing registration drives).

            (As for the insult, I did look it up and everything came up for an artist I kind of vaguely knew about …. not sure why that’s an insult or why you would call me it.)

          • Achance

            It is a partisan thing and the Ds have a monopoly on it. There are very few R operatives or activists who have the “the revolution is its own morality” mentality that lefty “community organizer” types have, so they won’t flaunt or break the law, and frankly, most Rs don’t willingly associate with the kinds of people you have to be around to do this stuff. With the lefties, it is a badge of honor to break the law and get away with it.

            And, all you have to do is look at the indictments; everywhere anybody’s bothered to investigate and prosecute, they’ve gotten them. In WA, Rossi didn’t want to push it, and Gregoire’s government sure as Hell wasn’t interested since it was the beneficiary of the fraud, a fraud for which the unions have been handsomely rewarded.

          • TexasTom

            Don’t worry. The breaking of the shop windows was just a juvenile prank. Those yellow stars we make them wear are just to make there life easier. Poland really did make aggressive acts toward us. It was self defense. Did you hear what happened to the Cohens next door. They were taken away in the middle of the night. Mind your own business. We should not get involved. Don’t let them hear us. I’m affraid.

            Turn away from what’s infront of you, Germany 1936-1945

            Your head is in the sand. No. Worse. Up your…

          • TexasTom

            For the homeless so they can vote. Ha!

            I have 10 addresses, 10 registration locations and 10 homeless bums. Over the course of 10 days, to reduce the recognition of the same folk showing up at the same locations, I can potentially generate 100 early voting packets with different name/address combinations. Now what fanatical commie will let this opportunity pass.

            Multply the results of this senario by any unbelievable number of repititions per day and you have the “Get out the Vote” program.

  • Kathyrep

    They could kill two birds with one stone by having them fill out their mortgage papers!

    • rachael

      Bit of an extreme comparison, don’t you think? So when a liberal calls a person a fascist for supporting new surveillance laws intended to catch terrorists, you don’t think that’s an outrageous comparison? Saying that these fraudulent registrations are not clear evidence of a conspiracy to actually change the outcome of an election is the same as letting my Jewish neighbors and friends be tortured and killed? Really?

  • Gekster

    I think we should be like the Iraqis,
    And dip a finger in ink.
    For conservatives, one finger from either hand.
    For liberals, one finger from both hands.

    This would be a cheap way to give it the oversight it needs.

    “Those 30 days are essential to ensure that the registered voter 1) is a

    citizen 2) lives in the district 3) is of voting age 4) is not a felon. When

    you don’t take those safeguards, you encourage voter fraud.”

    This says the whole nine yards. You can’t say any more
    than this.