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No, Ma’am

Promoted from the diaries – ed.

A year ago, Barbara Boxer – my state’s junior senator – made news across the country when, during a Senate Committee hearing, she laid into Brigadier General Michael Walsh of the Corps of Engineers. BGen Walsh made the mistake of calling her “Ma’am” in answering a question. She went off on Walsh telling him to call her “Senator” as she had worked so hard for the title.

For many military people and veterans who don’t track political news day-to-day and are relatively apolitical (that was me, until recently), it was one of a handful of political news items to cross our radar. I remember my reaction at the time—a brief “what the hell has her knickers all in a bunch” question, knowing that Walsh was paying her a compliment.

Later, however, I thought about my reaction to the incident and began to see it in an altogether different and more serious light. Barbara Boxer after so many years in the Senate has no idea at all of the culture of the Armed Forces of the United States. She literally does not understand the requirements incumbent on those who have sworn the Oath, to support and defend our Constitution against all enemies.

Boxer has a deplorable record when it comes to the most critical military issue: Troop funding. In 1991, she voted against a supplemental to support troops on the ground in Kosovo. In 2001, she voted against $847M to fund much needed mission critical and force protection maintenance. And in 2003, unlike our senior senator, Dianne Feinstein, Boxer voted with only 12 other Senators to try to defeat a $87B supplemental for supporting troops in the field and their families at home.

The fact is: Boxer is no friend of the military or veterans, and for me, that’s reason number one why she needs to go this November.

For other Californians, there will be other reasons. Recently, a friend of mine who I have known since Vietnam was talking about the water problem in the San Joaquin Valley. He has been trying to find a way around the federal government’s moves to cut water to the farmers in that area– shutting down farms and agribusiness because of concerns regarding a small fish that lives in the area. Barbara Boxer has been the driving force behind these out-of-kilter efforts that put fish before families, and those living in a now dried-up former breadbasket where unemployment stands at over 20% know it.

That’s another good reason why Boxer needs to be retired.

But for those of us who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution, which is now under a furious attack thanks to figures like Boxer, we now have two good reasons to send Ms. Boxer home, and send Carly Fiorina to Washington.

Steve Richmond served in the U.S. Marine Corps and is the Statewide Chair of Veterans for Carly.

COMMENTS

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    I no longer live within Senator Boxer’s fuedal demense, but I’m still impacted by having that idiot in charge of things important. Thank you for speaking out. I exhort you to work hard and drive her out of power.

  • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

    …should be an important component of Fiorina’s campaign. It shows her to be the kind of petulant, self-centered political slime of which voters are becoming increasingly disgusted.

    Boxer should be portrayed as the mastermind of the Delta shrimp fiasco. She’s chairman of the senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works, and the destruction she has wrought on this issue is almost incomprehensible.

    We conservative Californians must hammer this imbecile from now until November.

  • exitsfunnel

    Every time that incident comes up, I always have the same question, which seems to me to be the obvious one: how did General Walsh address the males members of the committeel? As ‘senator’ or as ‘sir?’ If the former, then her complaint was justified (though probably still better as a practical matter to have just ignored it) but if the latter, then she really has deserved all of the criticism she’s received.

    -exits

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      And she deserves it all regardless.

      • exitsfunnel

        If he were addressing the males as ‘Senator’, but singling her out as ‘ma’am’, why wouldn’t her complaint be justified?

        • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

          It’s because she’s a moron.

        • callawyn

          Its actually worse, this goes beyond petulance. My understanding is that ‘Ma’am’ is the proper protocol for a military officer speaking directly to a female Senator. She was therefore dressing down an officer, on national tv, for failing to show the proper deference when in fact he was, and she was demanding more than she was entitled to.

          She was dead wrong any way you look at it, and as mentioned above, Carly should make full use of the incident as it is very revealing about her opponent.

        • Uma Richie

          I understand your point. I found the Library of Congress website transcripts of the proceedings last year and was satisfied to see both “Sir” and “Ma’am” used.

          A little bit of keyboard initiative on your part would have saved Neil some typing.

          • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

            …but Sir and M’am were accepted, even preferred protocol titles in the 70′s, the same any soldier would use use for a superior office.

            That said, had the general replied what I would have replied, he could have been brought up on charges, (Art 133). Civilians wouldn’t.

          • Uma Richie

            an O-6 Chief of Staff. I don’t remember the exact exchange, but I was a LTJG and it was my first meal in an Admiral’s mess. The Chief of Staff was the senior person at dinner. I entered the mess and as I would in the wardroom, said, “May I join you, Sir,” to which he replied, “Staff!” I wasn’t sure what had happened, but one of the staff officers had mercy and translated that upon entering the mess, “Sir” just didn’t cut it. So I did what I was supposed to do and had a miserable meal. I still don’t know why protocol requires everyone to call the Admiral’s right hand “Staph,” but if the name fits…

            Anyway, I felt it necessary to look at the context of the Boxer exchange last year because I believe that a person can sound respectful while displaying disdain that falls just short of insubordination. It was important for me to confirm that BGen Walsh had not been egging her on. He clearly was not.

            BGen Walsh showed great restraint in his response, but I reserve my most ardent admiration for Admiral Willard and his ability to maintain military bearing in his testimony before Rep. Hank “Guam Tipping” Johnson.

          • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

            My 3-star never had that requirement nor all the other 0-7′s and up I ever encountered.

            Still, the point is made that Boxer established a rule that applies only to her, I assume, and would not apply to me.

          • nessa

            I got to spend a couple weeks on a Navy Ship during Katrina. The Chief’s Mess was absolutely excellent! A nice quiet spot, with good strong coffee, where the CPOs and NCOs could “let their hair down” so to speak. There was a poor unsuspecting Army 03 who wandered in by accident one day during lunch. I would have loved to see Senator Boxer get a little of what that Major got. The Chief of the Boat started with rhetorical questions like “WTF are you and WTF are you doing in my mess? Have you lost your [ever lovin'] mind?” The questions continued in ever increasing volume until the Major beat a hasty retreat. I must admit, even with 20 years of Army Service, that made me wonder if I’d enlisted in the wrong branch. Senator Boxer wants to earn something? Let her sit in front of a promotion board.

          • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

            …yep, that ‘s how they did. Not even admiral’s infringed on their turf.

          • Uma Richie

            very little would get done on the ship. In addition to the good food, coffee, and camaraderie, the seclusion allows E-7-E-9 from different departments to iron out issues and coordinate projects in an informal setting.

            My experience (although dated, limited to aircraft carriers, and not necessarily typical) is that the ship’s officers’ wardroom and the Flag mess are much more formal.

          • Uma Richie

            before the same committee and call all the other senators “Sir” or “Ma’am” and then when replying specifically to Babs, say “Senator” with just enough slow, clear enunciation to make a mockery of her, but not enough to lose plausible deniability in case you were called out on it?

            And yes, I definitely got your point.

          • throwback59

            National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood.
            Seems appropriate.

      • RedBeard

        If it’s considered proper, traditional, and respectful to call the Queen of England “Ma’am,” I’d say any senator should be quite well satisfied with the same respecful term. Boxer should count herself lucky to be addressed as Ma’am under any circumstances.

        • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

          …I’ll wager that less than 2% of California voters have seen that clip. That’s why Fiorina needs to be using it on TV.

          Carly, just play the clip. It doesn’t even require commentary. Just the disclosure, “I’m Carly Fiorina and Barbara Boxer approved this video.”

        • lineholder

          being displayed from one citizen to another citizen is maligned and belittled in public (which it was), we’ve come a long way from “civilized society”.

        • romeg

          one addresses her as “Your Majesty”. Thereafter she may be addressed as Ma’am.

          I believe that early in his testimony the General addressed this harridan as Senator thereby having fulfilled the dictates of protocol and his subsequent.

          Boxer seized this opportunity to prove to the world just what a B**ch she really is.

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  • ratchett

    Carly Fiorina was so right in saying that Boxer’s hair is so yesterday, but it goes much further than that. She is an arrogant, repulsive, Progressive who has stumbled blindly through her career. She is an embarrassment to her constituents, to CA, and to the U.S, a power mongering old bag who will be gone in Nov.

  • MikeWas

    …and sometimes address male judges as “sir.” Technically, it’s not correct form to do so, but sometimes it just slips out.

    I’ve never had a judge get bunched up about it. As long as the tone is properly respectful, and counsel is otherwise respectful of the court (being properly prepared, not wasting the court’s time, etc.) then it’s never an issue.

    Although I am just now considering how it is that our term of respect for an accomplished woman is a bastardization of the Anglo-French word “madame.”

    • Menlo

      She says it makes her feel old. Of course she’d never tell anyone outside her family and close friends.