Democrats Discover Shocking Secret about Bobby Jindal

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Democrats in Louisiana have apparently uncovered the shocking secret that Bobby Jindal is... wait for it... Catholic!


Not only is Bobby Jindal Catholic, he has (*gasp*) identifiable reasons for being Catholic!


This, along with their candidates' anemic standing in the polls, is a good reason for the Democratic Party of Louisiana to attack Bobby Jindal's faith.

More below...

Now, I have read the piece in question (I'm not sure how long that link will work), and I have to agree with pretty much everyone who says that the charges against Jindal wrench his words horrendously out of context. For instance, Jindal says:

The same Catholic Church which infallibly determined the canon of the Bible must be trusted to interpret her handiwork; the alternative is to trust individual Christians, burdened with, as Calvin termed it, their "utterly depraved" minds, to overcome their tendency to rationalize, their selfish desires, and other effects of original sin.

The dim bulbs in the Louisiana Democratic Party have interpreted this passage as "Jindal calls Protestants 'depraved'!" Only someone utterly ignorant of theology would honestly make such a mistake - so we are left with the conclusion that the operatives in the Louisiana Democratic Party are either utterly ignorant of theology, or are knowingly misrepresenting Jindal's words.*

As the final nail in this particular coffin, observe the closing paragraphs of Jindal's essay and determine for yourselves whether this man is bigoted towards Protestants:

I trust I have provided enough evidence to indicate that the Catholic Church deserves a careful examination by non-Catholics. It is not intellectually honest to ignore an institution with such a long and distinguished history and with such an impressively global reach. I am not asking non-Catholics to investigate the claims of my neighborhood minister, but rather am presenting a 2,000-year-old tradition, encompassing giants like Aquinas and Newman, with almost a billion living members, including modern prophets like Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II.

Nonetheless, the Catholic Church must live up to her name by incorporating the many Spirit-led movements found outside her walls. For example, the energy and fervor that animate the Baptist and Pentecostal denominations, the stirring biblical preaching of the Lutherans and Calvinists, and the liturgical solemnity of the Anglicans must find expression within Catholicism.

I am thrilled by the recent ecumenical discussions that have resulted in Catholics and Evangelicals discovering what they have in common, in terms of both theology and morality, and as exemplified by joining to oppose abortion and other fruits of an increasingly secular society, but I do not want our Evangelical friends to overlook those beliefs that make Catholicism unique. The challenge is for all Christians to follow Jesus wherever He leads; one significant part of that challenge is to consider seriously the claims of the Catholic Church.

Now, allow me to speak as someone who is *not* Catholic, and thinks that the Catholic Church's theology leaves much to be desired - I could care less if Jindal had actually said all the things the Louisiana Democratic Party is accusing him of. A candidate's religious beliefs are only relevant to me insofar as they cause me to question whether that candidate shares a very basic set of moral values with me, such that I'd be led to question whether that candidate could *do his or her job effectively once elected*. In other words, I could not care less whether Bobby Jindal thinks in his heart that I'm going to hell, so long as I believe that he is capable of providing the state of Lousiana with good governance - and after years of corrupt Democratic control of that state, it would seem that the people of the state of Lousiana agree.

But I digress. In reading through Jindal's essay (with which I do not agree), it occurred to me that his essay was nothing more than what *any* informed Catholic would say if asked to explain *why* s/he was Catholic. Given that the majority of Democratic candidates for elective office seem to be Catholic, I can only assume that their objection to Jindal is that he is informed concerning the tenets of his own religion, and practices them.

I, for one, can't figure out how people get the idea that the Democratic party is hostile to the devoutly religious, in spite of numerous clever bumper stickers to the contrary. Can you?

*In order to save Moe the trouble, let me interject, "Embrace the healing power of *and*, brother."

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as low as can be reached, they work and hard and find yet lower lows.
Not only does this demonstrate just how classless the dhimmies really are, it demonstrates how little they understand or respect faith.

Something beyond desperation by Charging Piper

This is the political equivalent of an obviously-defeated boxer swinging one final wild haymaker before being pounded into the canvas.

...and in most cases re-elected to statewide office Catholics such as Edwin Edwards, John Breaux, Mary Landrieu, John Vitter, and Kathleen Blanco.

Like this ad won't get played in the South state, or drive up Catholic turnout in the North state.

--furious

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader

Democratics = bigots? It is utterly amazing to me to see Democratics think that so many people are bigots and this will work on those ignorant rubes. The only thing that it shows to me is that hate for anyone of faith (outside their secular faith). And this comes at the same time that the national party has trying to equate their candidate being the "real" people of faith.

PS Leon, I would make a bet with you that someone won't read the full article and still think you're Catholic...

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The CIA has better politicians than it has spies - Fred Thompson

He's also brown by hoyasaxa

I bet that's a good bit of the motivation for running the ad.

The spot is pathetic and it might backfire, but they're in a no lose situation. I'm sure they're thinking they might as well throw junk at the wall and see if it sticks.

"My heart was here...I feel like I have unfinished business here." - Roy Hibbert

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This kind of liberty is, indeed, but another name for justice; ascertained by wise laws, and secured by well-constructed institutions.

-Edmund Burke

"I trust I have provided enough evidence to indicate that the Catholic Church deserves a careful examination by non-Catholics. It is not intellectually honest to ignore an institution with such a long and distinguished history and with such an impressively global reach. I am not asking non-Catholics to investigate the claims of my neighborhood minister, but rather am presenting a 2,000-year-old tradition, encompassing giants like Aquinas and Newman, with almost a billion living members, including modern prophets like Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II.

Nonetheless, the Catholic Church must live up to her name by incorporating the many Spirit-led movements found outside her walls. For example, the energy and fervor that animate the Baptist and Pentecostal denominations, the stirring biblical preaching of the Lutherans and Calvinists, and the liturgical solemnity of the Anglicans must find expression within Catholicism.

I am thrilled by the recent ecumenical discussions that have resulted in Catholics and Evangelicals discovering what they have in common, in terms of both theology and morality, and as exemplified by joining to oppose abortion and other fruits of an increasingly secular society, but I do not want our Evangelical friends to overlook those beliefs that make Catholicism unique. The challenge is for all Christians to follow Jesus wherever He leads; one significant part of that challenge is to consider seriously the claims of the Catholic Church."

We should remember that Bobby chose Christianity. He was not born into it. As a Protestant, I had often wondered if young Mr. Jindal had chosen Catholicism out of expediency or ambition. Upon reading (er, skimming) the article you linked, I am persuaded he did not.

It would appear from his rather extensive and well-cited writings that his spiritual journey was a significant intellectual exercise for him, and for that I am glad.

Based on the three paragraphs quoted above, I don't see how any thinking Christian could have a problem.

It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins

I think that Louisiana has just jumped back to the days of the southern Democrats' KKK and trashing Catholics.

chsw

"The same Catholic Church which infallibly determined the canon of the Bible must be trusted to interpret her handiwork; the alternative is to trust individual Christians, burdened with, as Calvin termed it, their "utterly depraved" minds, to overcome their tendency to rationalize, their selfish desires, and other effects of original sin. The choice is between Catholicism's authoritative Magisterium and subjective interpretation which leads to anarchy and heresy."

While the last line may be a bit harsh, what he presents is a pretty standard Catholic argument against sola scriptura. I'm a Democrat, but drudging up this for political gain is utter garbage. Unless Blanco publicly condemns this ad, demands it stop running, and demand that the Louisiana Democratic Party apologize, I hope she gets taken to the cleaners.

Quick question CC by Darin H

I'm a Democrat & Louisiana Democratic Party

If it isn't the Democrat Party but the Democratic Party then doesn't that make its members Democratics?

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The CIA has better politicians than it has spies - Fred Thompson

and I really don't understand those who are. Technically, though, Democrat is a noun, and Democratic is an adjective. In the same way, I'm an Episcopalian, but I attend an Episcopal church (actually, that one works the exact opposite, but the two get confused all the time).

You can call me a Democratic if you want or refer to my party as the Democrat party. I don't mind it any more than I mind other grammatical mistakes. Actually, I mind that mistake a lot less than I mind when people write "Please R.S.V.P" (S.V.P means "please"!!!) or "VIN/PIN number" (The "N" stands for "number"!!!)

utter depravity by streiff

is not Bobby Jindal's construction, it comes from the standard

but I just wanted to point out that apparently I'm not the only Democrat disgusted by the LDP. Kos' front page post in support of the ad is getting some pretty harsh treatment in the comments section over there (out of respect for this site, I'm not linking to it). I really hope the LDP realizes it's making the rest of us (who are freaking bigots) look bad with the kind of crap it's pulling.

Replying to yourself by mbecker908

is OK. Maybe, if you do it a few more times, we can refer to the process as "CrabCaking" for lefties, much like we refer to "A Kowalski" for those of us on the right.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

and Kos gave them a pat on the back.

Shows what happens when partisanship beats out good taste. Yes, the same thing has happend on our side, but rarely have I seen something so stupid and so galactically dumb.

Great for Bobby, btw. He just gave his campaign something to beat down the D's with. Jindal is going to be in Charlie Crist territory when it comes to governance.

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill

that Kos'purpose is to destroy the Democrats from within.

One more "kowalski": by CrabCakes

In case it wasn't obvious, I meant "who aren't freaking bigots." Funny how much difference two letters and an apostrophe make.

Kos was actually the poster who informed his followers of this shocking allegation.

That's right, it was Markos.

I accused them of the internet equivalent of a No Popery Riot and insisted that there would be blowback, which there probably will be. Jindal will go to town on this.

Oh well, dumb as dirt.

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"-Winston Churchill

Al Smith by LibertyWins

must be turning over in his grave.

Its just shocking how the New Deal Coalition keeps dying without any sign of it changing.

...in theirs.

--furious

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader

Bobby Jindal / Henry Bonilla 2016

That will make liberals squrm. Haha!

more problematic by condor01

Jindal's opponents aren't the first in either party to exploit sectarian intolerance - no shock or surprise here. The aspect of Jindal's faith I find very troubling is his support for teaching creationism in public schools. Students in Louisiana, who consistently rank lowest in the country in the maths and sciences, deserve better. I have no idea where Jindal's rivals stand on this matter.

...Mr. Jindal is seriously dissing Southern Evangelical Protestants.

What's troubling is that the Party of Edwin "Dead Girl/Live Boy" Edwards can't even plausibly slime an opponent anymore. Oh well, they can still get the school buses out on Election Day.

Bonus points to condor01 for squeezing moral equivalence and "yes, but..." in the same post.

--furious

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader

I may not have did very well in "the maths", but it would be nice if you could document that assertion about creationism.

And, BTW, when we have such evidence of "exploit[ation] of sectarian intolerance" by either party, shouldn't we condemn it, rather than shrug it off like it doesn't matter? I'll condemn the Republicans, if you can show an equivalent example.

It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. - David St. Hubbins

when he made a statement back in July that said basically the same thing that Jindal did? If not, I wonder why? Al Mohler weighed in on the Papal statement here, and in that article is a pointer to the statement from the Vatican.

I'm a conservative Evangelical Christian, and Jindal's statements don't offend me in the slightest. He's a Catholic - that's what many Catholics believe (although, as a non-Catholic I may not fully understand what Jindal wrote, and he may not accurately represent the teachings of the church). We Protestants broke away during the Reformation because we didn't believe in a lot of the Catholic Church's doctrine. I wouldn't expect the Catholics to be all lovey-dovey with us, even after all these centuries. Luther kinda got under their skin...


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