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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson

That's what I think. It's better for his political career to decline the nomination for VP, thus accomplishing the twofold goal of (1) preventing Hillary from winning due to anger among a key constintuency, and (2) he'll avoid the pitfall of being a VP tied to a Clinton presidency. Gore inherited what should have been the perfect storm for an easy win, and yet lost the electoral vote. If Obama accepted a slot on the ticket his political future would not be as good as it would be if he declines. If he declines and Hillary loses, Obama is the savior (like the backup quarterback).

But if Hillary wins the nomination, I think she has to offer it to Obama.

How do you spend almost a year talking about bringing the country to a new "post-partisan" politics, to moving to a uniting, bi-partisan governance, to taking the country away from the "politics of the old," and then sign on to the very embodiment of all of the things you have campaigned against?

Clinton is very much the "old way" in politics - is notoriously polarizing and rabidly partisan. How does Obama become a spokesman for that? How does he sign on to that ticket and thereby tie himself to those politics? He gains nothing from it.

Whatever happens in this contest, Obama is clearly a force in the next go-around. If he loses the nomination and Hillary goes on to win, he's still going to be a factor in 2016 - and possibly even in 2012 if Hillary bombs. And he won't have any Hillary baggage. If Hillary loses then he is the front-runner for 2012 and still has his message of "Hope and Change" for the next run.

If Obama accepts the VP spot, or even if he wins and offers Clinton the VP slot, he simply shines a spotlight on his rhetoic being just that - rhetoric. He will be tied to the old politics while trying to claim that he is moving past that. I just don't see how these two can come together in the end.

I just love that line.

I'm pretty sure the OLD "old way" led to former BFF John Adams bemoaning that "Thomas Jefferson survives" and Burr shooting Alexander Hamilton.

This country has been bitterly partisan since the outset (Whigs vs Tories, Federalists vs Anti-Federalists, Confederates vs Union, and so on...). We managed to stay relatively unified vs Nazism, then Communism for about 50 years, but that was an aberation.

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His victory concession speech is just words.

That is what I was just thinking. All his speeches sound the same anyway, its all hopes and dreams. I doubt he knows how to get off that kick.

this is lame

Mike DeVine’s Charlotte Observer columns
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson

you're right, but I fear Beckle my be right!

It just won't happen. As noted, she can't wait - she's not going to be viable in 2016, and may not even be viable in 2012 if the ticket were to lose.

Second, she does not play second fiddle well. Could you imagine her taking orders from an Obama White House? Could you imagine Bill Clinton taking orders from the political operation in the West Wing? And they would have to - they could not be loose canons.

The Clintons, both of them, would be more powerful and more significant outside the administration. Bill could continue to go on his lucrative speaking tours and do whatever shady consulting he has engaged in (and ethics rules would probably prevent him, as the spouse of the VP, from giving many of those paid speeches, and he certainly would get muzzled - no shooting his mouth off ala Jimmy Carter). And Hillary, as Senator from NY would have more of a platform then she could ever have as VP. There's no up-side to being the VP for Hillary. If she wanted to be the VP, she probably could have had the spot 4 years ago under John Kerry. I doubt she's any more inclined to take the #2 job today as she might have been 4 years ago.

The longer this drags on the more it tips to Hillary IMHO. I wish Obama put her out of her misery today so we can get on with taking him out in the general. What are we afraid of? Let's get it on! We don't need a infighting Dem party. We need Obama to get nominated and let the vetting begin.

The worst scenario for McCain is to have a clinton/obama ticket and the longer this drags on the more likely it will be. That ticket allows the Dem party to unite. I don't see Hillary accepting a VP spot under any circumstance as she believes she has paid too much a price to be 2nd fiddle, again. Obama could be swayed to be VP if things drag on and race tightens up. He is young, they can promise him certain leeway etc...Who knows what bargaining would happen behind the scenes.

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Whats more I am willing to bet the care bear turns into a rabid attack dog. He came up through Chicago politics you know it has to be there.
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he was brought up in Chicago politics.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

Perhaps it would be time that the rest of America see what Hillary and Bill have done. Potentially nasty...I can't wait.

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....just another party hack politician.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

vast left wing conspiracy?!?! Who knew?

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