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By Neil Stevens Posted in 2008 | Barack Obama | Democrats | Iraq | John McCain | Lying Socialist Weasels | Republicans | The Big Lie — Comments (47) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
This is a special message for those conservatives out there who have even the slightest doubt that we all need to band together for the political fight this year.
Are you angry at John McCain? Then you're angry at the wrong man. Look, before you forget: while we're chasing our own tails worrying about the perfect candidate, our opponents are still there. They have no principles, no consciences, and will feel no remorse about doing and saying whatever it takes to achieve political victory in November.
Read on and take a look at the latest example:
Here's a video put out by some supporters of Senator Barack Obama:
I hesitate to give it any air, but I think it must be seen to get the impact. Here we have the propaganda for the masses: take a funny, little video and sneak in a great, big lie. If you count on your base being undereducated enough to believe the lie, then you win big.
We do now know what the big lie will be in 2008. in 2004 the lie was that Republicans will start drafting young men and women to fight and die in Iraq. It was absurd; there was no support for the notion in government outside of a few radical Democrats. The Republican House of Representatives even overwhelmingly voted down Representative Charlie Rangel's proposal. But they told the lie anyway, over and over, knowing that far too many Democrats and Democratic-leaners are just too dumb not to fall for it.
In 2008 the lie is that we'll be fighting and dying in Iraq forever, with the death toll mounting without end, should John McCain be elected President. As 'proof' of this, they show McCain saying that he's 'fine' with the US being in Iraq for that long.
What's the catch? We all know that's not what he means. Educated Democrats even know that's not what he means. Those of us who've studied history and follow politics all know that McCain envisions us building a partnership of peace and prosperity with Iraq the way we have successfully with South Korea, Japan, and Germany. There's no more reason to fear a lengthy stay in Iraq any more than we gnash our teeth at our perpetual deployments in those countries, but they tell the lie anyway.
Barack Obama's supporters tell this lie anyway, the same way Democrats tell the big lie every time, because they know full well that their target audience will fall for it. They feel no shame in using false pretenses to win the Presidency.
Can any right thinking person stand aside and let this travesty go unchallenged? I hope not. We must join together and defeat these liars to the last man. Barack Obama's Big Lie must be destroyed. His fairy tales must be burned to the ground and scattered into the winds.
We must not let them get away with this. Nothing John McCain has ever done is more important than that.
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then holding back your campaign contributions betrays your certainty. That is, you are choosing to do less than you can to prevent what you claim "cannot and must not" be allowed.
Sorry, there really are only two viable choices here. If you're not all in for one, you're at least slightly willing to accept either.
Nice try but
by Old Crow
I'm not drinking the RINO Kool-Aid.. I'll vote for him, but no money or time supporting his campaign unless he supports conservative values. When is John going to 'reach across the aisle' to conservatives?
tick tock...
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Cuts both ways
by Neil Stevens
Every conservative who says something like this sets back the push to revive conservatism in the party, because every non-conservative is reading it and will remember it.
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Good we need a cassus belli
by Joliphant
Obama has been running as the nice likeable guy. This brings his campaign down to a level where anything is fair game.
Time to get out the videos of the holocaust of children that Obama voted for in Illinois.
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Heck use his own video yes we can split screened
by Joliphant
with an abortion of a live infant.
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If you need help with that, you know how to contact me
by Neil Stevens
I have video editing software and I know how to use it, heh.
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"If we want to take this party back, and I think we can someday, let’s get to work." – Barry Goldwater
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
How about Nevil Chamberlain
by roxer
How about Nevil Chamberlain and Obama in a split screen with German tanks and the killing of civillians on the left and terrorists acts and killing Americans on the right. Make sure you align their thoughts/words. There should be enough video to do this.
--roxer
Yes Yes Yes.
If we're going
by Mattpat11
Yes Yes Yes.
If we're going to win this election, we don't have to play dirty. We don't have to hit low. We just have to show America what Barack Obama truly is. The Neville Chamberlain of the 21st Century.
Che would be more relevant. n/t
by el hombre
Democrats: Aborting infant democracies since 1961!
The video is dreadful, but it captures the mentality
by goldenboy
of most Obama voters.
We need to counter this stuff aggressively. This isn't an election to stay above the fray.
Are there any experienced activists out there who can tell us what proactive things we can do individually?
"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper
What is funny is that Obama supporters.....
by St. Louis Conservative
...probably really believe that Obama will withdrawl troops from Iraq. They have another thing coming.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
I believe Obama will pull out if he can.
by goldenboy
The democrats would love another post-Vietnam era of guilt and self abuse. Then they can blame the Republicans and convince everyone that only the left can make them happy.
The Leftist agenda requires that we be humbled and our population be made to fee desperate. Adorno called it cultural terrorism, and it fits into the Marxist-Leninist internationalist agenda. America must be torn down and built again in the progressive image.
Leninists took the side of the defeat of Imperial Russia in WWI, and progressive Americans have taken the side of defeat of the U.S. in Vietnam and Iraq. It's the same template.
Add to that this creepy "yes we can" mantra. It is classic brainwashing. The people are agreeing to do something and they don't even know what it is yet.
I don't doubt for a second that Obama would pull out of Iraq, unless the military threatens mass resignations.
Either way, it would be horrible for the future of our nation.
"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper
He won't pull out, he's basically said so.
by St. Louis Conservative
He's already leaving himself openings by saying things like, "well, I always leave my options open" or what have you.
The Democrats know the stakes over there, and they know we are winning, and they know it will be a disaster if they pull out. Now, I don't doubt that they want Bush to pull out, so that everything can be blamed on him. But if (God forbid) one of these Democrats is given the keys to the White House, there is no way they will pull out of Iraq. They will not let themselves be saddled with the blame for the ensuing disaster following a precipitous withdrawl.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
St. Louis. He's just playing to the center
by goldenboy
because he thinks he will be the nominee. We've seen Hillary do the same thing.
I don't doubt for a second that if he feels he can lay the repurcussions at the feet of the Bush administration, he will let that part or the world go to hell in a hand basket.
If he is tough with anybody it will be our tenuous allies Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
"The most dangerous form in which oppression can overshadow a community is that of popular sway" -James Fenimore Cooper
He won't pull out.
by aesthete
He'll just be a completely inept wartime leader, and will probably concentrate on near-irrelevant issues (in terms of foreign policy), like blasting the Saudis for the millionth time for having the 9/11 terrorists hail from their country.
He won't pull out
by hunter
until he screws it up and then lets the dhimmies in Congress cut off all funding, a la Vietnam.
He won't withdraw until it is certain the body count of our friends and allies is massive.
And the Watergate Babies would never undo our work in RVN.. (nt)
by Neil Stevens
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McCain was dumb to throw out comments like this.
by St. Louis Conservative
He had to have known that they would be cannon-fodder for the Democrats. I know they are taking the quotes out of context somewhat, but claiming we might be there for 100 years was very unwise to say.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
McCain's Own Words
by Spartan4Life
This is what worries me. He doesn't seem to think before he speaks. All that "straight talk" is going to be used against him, and it should because he said those things. I just wish he was a more positive and more articulate advocate.
But, this is on him now. He's going to be the nominee. Either candidate the other side puts up will be highly vulnerable. If he does well, he can win and carry other GOP candidates with him. If he does poorly, we stand to get crushed.
Show us you are worthy, Senator McCain.
Worst thing is
by simpson316
CNN gave this thing prime time coverage last night on the Situation Room.
Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.
Shows ignorance
by Risky
What the hell would the army do with a bunch of raw and demotivated recruits anyway. Isn't warefare a little more complicated compared to 40 years ago.
Pot, meet kettle...
by beecubed
This is the same thing you guys did to Kerry with his "he voted for it before he voted against it!" bungle in 2004. A poor choice of words, the meaning of which was known to those that were politically aware, which was quoted out of context and misrepresented to the unaware to make Kerry looked bad.
It's also pretty similar to the Rove/Delay 50%+1 strategy of loading down popular bills with poison pills until Democrats are forced to vote against them, then attacking Democrats with those votes during elections, while (surprise!) not mentioned why they voted against them.
Excuse us liberals if we don't have an abundance of pity when your dirty tricks get used against you.
So you *will* do what it takes to win?
by Neil Stevens
Barack Obama: The audacity to lie to your face.
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and can cleverly spot meaning, allow me to add to your sophisticated reading of John Kerry.
As you well know, and have mentioned, context is important. Therefore; Kerry originally voted for the war resolution, thereafter came his vote against funding, you understand for the war he voted for, then subsequently he made an issue of the state of equipment of our troops, in spite of his funding vote.
Do you follow this?
So context is important, as are principles, consistency, honesty, and in this case, sequence.
It must be remembered that while in Vietnam he was on a special mission in Cambodia, on Christmas Day [ or do they call it Winter Holiday]. But wait, after some criticism it was changed from a December mission to February[ Valentines Day? ] or March [St Patrick's Day? ]. If it had kept up we might have reached Mother's Day.
Kerry made his own problems.
You will forgive us conservatives if we don't shoulder the blame for your lying candidates, we in turn may or may not forgive your party for the slime it wallows in.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
HA! Snorting my morning coffee all over my keyboard. You are funny guy Mr. Stevens
What McCain needs to do
by mike volpe
is immediately counter with an ad that explains the consequences of early withdrawal, and what the world will look like after we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and Al Qaeda and Iran take over Iraq. He needs to point out the consequences of changing a working strategy mid stream and point out that Barack Obama has nearly zero experience with any military matters.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor
Strange how you so quickly overlook
by djames
McCain's distortion of Romney's position on 'time-tables' for Iraq.
This game isn't played fair; that's just the covert rules of politics.
In this case, McCain has left himself wide open to for attack on Iraq. This is just the beginning of how painful the attacks are going to be.
No money, no vote for McCain...
by ChiefMinion
All of you can do what you want. I would rather do battle with the left through congressional members who are members of the loyal opposition than have them torn between their principles and their President. The latter will put them in an untenable position. McCain will push forward the left's agenda on the principles most dear to me (us?), illegal immigration and securing the border (which is really national security), further curbs on our free speech rights, and activist judges.
The Bush tax cuts are going to expire and McCain will do nothing to make them permanent, but he wouldn't be able to get that done even if he tried so I'll be generous on that issue.
Yeah, I know he is finally starting to talk a good game on these issues. My response: "McCain/Kennedy", "McCain/Feingold", and "Gang of Fourteen". He keeps telling us how he is principled and willing to fight to the end for what he believes is right for the country. Do any of you _really_ believe he will abandon his historical positions that threaten our nation? If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.
So you shrug your shoulders and let others decide?
by Neil Stevens
I know it's the easy way out but... really?
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No, you take the "right" way out
by el hombre
I kindly ask you to re-read what he wrote. The only course for conservatives, at least for me and it appears the Chief as well, is to focus on congress. The presidency is gone to the left with John as the nominee. He will cause greater damage and division to our party as the Chief describes which will ultimately lead to future losses. That is not letting others decide, that is being proactive and extremely logical, if you're a conservative that is.
I don't think McCain is more liberal than Bush.
by St. Louis Conservative
In fact, one can make a strong case that he is more conservative, especially on things like spending, and the size/role of the federal government.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
I agree,
by el hombre
He may not be "more" liberal than Bush, probably more about "equal", which is still too far to the right.
Democrats: Aborting infant democracies since 1961!
typo, s/b FROM the right n/t
by el hombre
Democrats: Aborting infant democracies since 1961!
As I've posted earlier
by ChiefMinion
I will contribute to, work for, and vote for conservatives in races where I can make a difference. McCain doesn't make the cut. Not even close. His election to the oval office will set us back decades and cause far more damage than his defeat.
As for your question, yes. Really.
...he has the gravitas and the, in a old-codger sort of way, telepresence to do so. He has the bona-fides of his military service, without the Swiss-cheese quality that made John Kerry's bio so problematic.
He'll only be able to do so, however, if he can fire back at former Demo Senate colleagues in a manner he has heretofore only reserved for members of his own party. If he can't give Dick Durbin a call-down for comparing US troops to the SS or Pol Pot (rushing the microphones, instead, to excuse him), how can he call Sen. Obama a liar or Sen. Hillary corrupt?
--furious
"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader
Obama flip-flops on Iraq
by joeljournal
Yeah, the Dems are gonna use it against McCain.
But how about the fact that OBAMA HIMSELF says we should stay in Iraq INDEFINITELY, even while saying we should withdraw?
He is totally confused.
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As that video makes me suddenly want to run out and vote for John McCain.
Since you are not my employer,
by The Gadfly
your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my part.
McCain plainly said this well before the nomination was wrapped up, but you and others like you still continued to urge his nomination instead of considering all the implications.
The problem with volunteers, is that they ARE volunteers. And when they finally get fed up with being demeaned by their leaders, they will go home.
If I were in a purple state, (like Chief above) I would be working hard for conservative Republicans on the ballot and not putting much emphasis on McCain. Better to win the battles that advance our agenda than to dishonor ourselves by both selling out AND losing.
I don't get the logic...
by JD from Georgia
McCain says something stupid.
Democrats show him saying what he said in a way that holds the attention of Democrats (about 17 seconds unless you make it entertaining).
Thus, the logical and only conclusion is that we need to rally around McCain. The same McCain that believes in man-made global warming? Yeah, I don't think so.
Maybe we need a candidate who 1) has a grasp on the issues, and 2) knows how to communicate.
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If that's not what he meant..
by kingsley
Maybe he should say what he means, then?
You're not making a very strong case here.
Please ...
by PaulTX
Can we abandon the bromide that conservatives object to John McCain because he isn't the "perfect candidate"? Your spouse probably isn't perfect either. But if he or she committed adultery, you'd likely find it intolerable. Imperfect is fine. Grievous is not.
And while we're at it, can we also abandon the bromide that our political opponents have neither principles nor consciences? Of course they have principles; after all, it is not against nothing that we rail. Because you do not share a man's principles, it does not follow that he has none.
I remember now, even just now, why I hate politics. The claims of its partisans are often clinically hysterical.
I love how people take the time to say it's nothing
by Neil Stevens
Well, at least we didn't get any shrieking, sobbing Obamanauts joining in...
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