China Backs Up the Burmese Leadership
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China backs up the Burma leadership’s refusals to allow foreign aid workers to enter the country. The Burmese generals want our food and our equipment, but not our people. Obviously, because they don’t want their own people to have any contact with the outside world. Might lead to calls for a leadership change, you see. Can’t have that.
China’s position is a standard one they have taken for decades: no nation (especially not those do-gooding Americans) has the right to “interfere in the internal affairs of another.” Obviously, because the Chinese leadership is awfully sensitive about when foreigners (read, us) try to infect their own people with crazy notions about freedom and democracy.
(Of course, China has never hesitated to interfere in the internal affairs of other states when it serves their interests. But let’s not be pointing fingers here.)
The noteworthy thing about this is that China is no longer hesitant to raise their voice and speak up about this, in international forums like the UN, and elsewhere. Obviously, they’re trying to increase the size of their footprint in global affairs.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is ground on which we need to be competing against the Chinese, and not only because their position is morally wrong. The rest of the world is constantly watching for signs of who the heavyweight champ of soft-power really is.
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Your comment is correct as far as it goes. And they've never been hesitant to use their Security Council veto. But in the past their statements on sensitive international issues have generally been cryptic and elliptical. And part of that was, candidly, to avoid getting rebuked by us. (Face matters in international diplomacy.)
They're not afraid of that anymore. That's a change.
Openly supporting evil regimes is not new for China. Coming right out and telling the whole rest of the world (not just us) that we're all wrong, is very new for China.
And europe is in full out appeasement mode it will be really hard to manage anything on the part of the democracies.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
..."No, you're wrong" to China, loudly and often. Western aid agencies are full of people who are very intelligent and experienced when it comes to large-scale disaster relief and public-health issues.
For Burma and China to say "the Burmese regime are responding to the crisis in a highly capable and competent way and don't need help from outsiders" is a pure whitewash over the Burmese regime's political fears (which are undoubtedly well-founded).
China reveres regime-stability above all else. Someone with a big megaphone needs to tell them that the humanitarian crisis trumps regime-stability.
And if Bush is afraid to have "What about Katrina?" thrown back in his face, then why don't McCain and Obama step up to the microphone?
If you think its needed for your earthquake why isn't it needed for the Burmese ? Are they better able to handle disasters ?
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
...foreign aid workers into the earthquake zone? My understanding is that they're accepting a limited amount of international aid but they're handling the relief effort themselves. I could be wrong.
blackhedd:
I know of one foreign assistance group in China; a Japanese search and rescue team is on hand in Sichuan.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
No nation has the right to interfere in the affairs of the other. Let them take care of their own people. If they ask for help, we'll offer it. Otherwise, don't waste the time. That's sound foreign policy.
I noticed our sacks of rice were $6 here at Kroger in Alexandria, La. We could use the extra stock for gumbo.
"Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Let them sink under the weight of their own stupidity. As John said, "If they ask for help, we'll offer it. Otherwise don't waste the time." With this as a backdrop, it makes one wonder why anyone would even think to want to go to China to see the Olympics. If there was any one event where the influx of tens of thousands of foreigners and international media might cause a serious international incident, this is it. Get out the popcorn, it's only a matter of time.
This development reminds me of a recent Robert Kagan column:
Ideology matters again. The big development of recent years is the rise not only of great powers but also of the great-power autocracies of Russia and China. True realism about the international scene begins with understanding how this unanticipated shift will shape our world.
Many believe that when Chinese and Russian leaders stopped believing in communism, they stopped believing in anything. They had become pragmatists, pursuing their own and their nation's interests. But Chinese and Russian rulers, like past rulers of autocracies, do have a set of beliefs that guide their domestic and foreign policies. They believe in the virtues of strong central government and disdain the weaknesses of the democratic system. They believe strong rule at home is necessary if their nations are to be respected in the world. Chinese and Russian leaders are not just autocrats. They believe in autocracy.
If Kagan's right—and I think he is—then it really reinforces what you say about us needing to compete with China (and Russia) in matters like this. Once things get ideological, their implications become universal. The leaders of emergent democracies and/or emergent autocracies will be looking at every move by the US and by Russia and China to see what sort of government will get them the most adequate support from abroad. And what conclusion they come to could determine the fate of the War on Terror, as well as all sorts of other things.
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Of course, China has never hesitated to interfere in the internal affairs of other states when it serves their interests. But let’s not be pointing fingers here.
One thing that African dictators love about China is that the Chinese are more than willing to pay for rubber plants, tire factories, oil drilling in Africa but without pre-conditions (unlike "those meddlesome Americans"). I'm not a China expert, but they don't seem to me to be married to the communist ideology in the same way that the USSR or Mao's China was (as a matter of foreign policy).
This is an oft-understated problem the international community faces in trying to pull that continent (so abundant in resources, yet so corrupt) out of the crapper. We have preconditions. China pays the dictators anyway. As a result, a majority of our state-to-state aid is completely wasted.
Unfortunately, this is merely my observation, and I offer no solution (way above my pay grade).
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China is being very systematic about locking up their access to strategic resources for decades to come. They simply have resources to bear on Africa that we can't touch.
Africa's future looks a like like its colonial past, except that the colonizers won't be speaking English, French or German.
the idea that China considers its territory an "inner empire" and its bordering client states as an "outer empire" seems to be supported by their Burma position. We can keep trying to help however we can but if this is China's attitude then their military is who should invade, if anyone should, to provide the aid that the junta is denying.
They've mixed in some Hitler and Mussolini, as they knew how to make Socialism strong.
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Occasionally there are periods of anarchy. Occasionally they call it different things but it always winds up being the same thing. It's a family based oligarchy that picks a strong man (or not so strong man) as emperor. You have a modicum of merit based mobility as a release valve.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
This is nothing new as the people of Southern Sudan will attest.
This would be a huge PR coup for George Bush and would pay
political dividends once the Burmese Junta collapsed.
The west must act immediately. Otherwise many thousands more will perish.
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The Chinese have never been hesitant to bring their displeasure up at international forums.