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Jimmy Carter Still Hates The Jews
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In case you needed reminding, Jimmy Carter still hates the Jews.
Carter, promoting his new book, "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," in a marathon, nationally broadcast interview on C-Span, said that, given widespread support for Israel in the United States, it would be "unimaginable" that a politician would assign any blame to Israel for the ongoing violence in the Middle East and still win office.
The result, Carter said, is an unbalanced U.S. foreign policy on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that prevents America from acting as an honest broker between the two sides, as Carter did in reaching the Camp David Accords between Israel and Egypt in 1978.
Of course we remember how well the Camp David Accords worked. We've had peace in the Middle East ever since -- or I guess we would have peace except the stupid Jews refuse to be exterminated. If only they'd stop objecting to being slaughtered.
Jimmy, we understand you are still upset that Reagan beat you. And we understand you are still upset the American public thinks you were a weak little man. But that does not mean you should hate democratically elected governments in favor of murderous totalitarians. It just isn't the American way.
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It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. -- Calvin Coolidge
...says it all. Wild "antisemite!" libels should be left to Free Republic.
...if Carter simply claimed Israel was not blameless, you might have a point. However, Carter has consistently gone out of his way to solely blame Israel. Claiming that Israel is an apartheid state, as is stated in the TITLE of his newest book (Palestine: Peace not Apartheid), is enough to show me he hates the state of Israel and itself is borderline anti-Semitism. (How many apartheid states allow members of the minority to serve within their government, and affords them the same basic rights, as Israel does?)
Heresay isn't enough to convict people of charges of racism or anti-Semitism, but there is always this:
Carter's speechwriter, Bob Shrum, quit the campaign after noting that Carter "fudged the truth" too often, saying: "He also related that Carter, convinced the Jewish vote in the Democratic primaries would go to Senator Henry (“Scoop”) Jackson, had instructed his staff not to issue any more statements on the Middle East. “Jackson has all the Jews anyway,” Shrum quoted Carter as saying. “We get the Christians.”"
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"In Dangerous Liaison: The Inside Story of the U.S.-Israeli Covert Relationship, Andrew and Leslie Cockburn revealed that during a March 1980 meeting with his senior political advisers, Carter, discussing his fading reelection prospects and his sinking approval rating in the Jewish community, snapped, “If I get back in, I’m going to [expletive] the Jews.”
This information can be found here: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25746
describing Palestine as the nation of Apartheid, not Israel?
"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not." George Bernard Shaw
...as depicted in West Bank schoolbooks.
If Israel (population ~6.3X10^6) hadn't made peace with Egypt (population ~ 65X10^6), isn't it possible things might be worse?
If Arafat hadn't been such an idiot, things might have worked better.
It might be a stretch to say he hates the Jews, but he's certainly bias towards the Palestinians.
I agree - while he is biased towards Palestinians (whereas most American's are biased towards Israel), he is certainly not a Jew-hater in the mold of Ahmadinejad, Mashal, or the late Yassin.
Off the deep end and become a raving maniac like those persons you mentioned, doesn't mean he doesn't still hate the Jews.
"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
was a pathetic president. He brought us stagflation and the misery index. If he had ANY BRAINS, whatsoever, he would hide for the balance of his life.
He is trying to outdo his horrible tenure as president by being the worst ex-president in US history.
"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal comfort... has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
It is still true that if the Palestinians lay down their arms, then the violence will be eliminated, and if Israel lays down its arms, then Israel will be eliminated.
But that does not mean you should hate democratically elected governments in favor of murderous totalitarians. It just isn't the American way.
You missed the results of the last election, didn't you?
........from an election which Bush insisted take place among the Palestinians replaced the not-so-great Fatah with the infinitely worse Hamas..
But hey---Hamas was democratically elected---so I guess we have to respect that decision rendered by the Palestinian voters..
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I support the Palestinians right to elect a terrorist organization to lead them. Seriously, I do.
I also support the right of the US government and other Western governments to refuse to fund Hamas. And the right of the Israelis to declare war on the West Bank to protect themselves from the butchers who the Palestinians have elected.
Elections have consequences and if the consequence of the election of Hamas is no aid money from the west which results in starving Palestinians, I'm good with that too.
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"It is still true that if the Palestinians lay down their arms, then the violence will be eliminated, and if Israel lays down its arms, then Israel will be eliminated."
Skorrent, I believe you've summed up the conflict perfectly.
If you always find yourself arguing the exceptions rather than the rule you just might be rapidly sliding down your own slippery slope to irrelevance. -CommonCents
in his front yard in Plains, GA. I've got a new shovel & I'm checking flights from Phoenix to Atlanta in just a second.
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Knock it off, Jimmuh...you KNOW you really want a big tomb & torch at the UN or something.
Two can dig faster than one. Did he say he wanted to die first, or just hit a starter hole to hell?
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
I just heard he wanted to be buried and ran off to sharpen my shovel and check airline reservations. I'm not real picky, we'll just dig it deep. Hopefully, Plains has that red clay kinda dirt - difficult to dig but impossible to get out of.
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...good for putting goobers in the ground.
and nails and let him build houses for Habitat for Humanity out in the Georgia boondocks. But PLEASE keep him as far as possible from microphones and TV cameras, where he's extremely dangerous.
The bad news: Conservatism is hard to sell. The good news is that it works.
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but I still thought the caller on CSPAN was out of line. Even a former President is worthy of a degree of decorum if only to ensure respect for the institution of the Presidency.
Gerald Ford, G HW Bush, WJ Clinton all deserve a degree of decorum and even deference out of respect for the office. And FWIW, I thought all of them came up way short as POTUS.
Carter deserves whatever heat he gets because of his outrageous conduct as a former President. It should be pointed out that his foreign policy record includes Iran and his domestic policy record includes 20% mortgage rates every time he shows his face in public.
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I just hope Clinton doesn't go down the same road as Carter... all we need is another Carter running around. So far he's been a lot more responsible than Carter, but he hasn't had a few decades to get bitter and crazy, either.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
It only took the b*****d about a week.
I hold about no personal respect for Clinton the man. (I think he's arguably the most talented politician who ever lived.) I honestly can't imagine Bill ever sounding like Jimmy.
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Bill Clinton on Iran
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/12677
The Picture of Dorian Gray and Bill Clinton
http://gamecock.townhall.com/g/8d56302d-8992-4136-b40a-c92d6f52e6bd
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
http://gamecock.townhall.com
Whether he hates Jews in his heart we can never know, and to allow the discussion to focus on that or whether he is as bad as others who endanger the Jews more or not, even those that admit they hate Jews, is an example of how republicans time and time again lose arguments or fail to make their point have as a great an impact in the public mind.
This book does one great thing when Carter proudly recounts a statement he made to M. Begin before carter was president while a guest in Israel. I forget the statement (I will find it) but it was simply rude, offensive and completely inappropriate.
Why is this instructive? Because it shows what i have known since the early 80s: carter never was a kind Christian man. He was and is an arrogant buffoon. He refused to return Tip O'Neils phone calls, he was rude to Reagan when he lost and he is a mean-spirited jerk.
Yes, he has done some good charity work and written one good book (An Hour Before Dawn??? about life in the rural south), but he is as wrapped up in the white guilt of the 60s as anyone despite his religious beliefs, many of which have been fashioned more to make the bible fit socialism than what the bible actually says and means. He even helped lead a split of baptists from the SBC.
I met carter when I was young Dem in 1980, and I must say that what I saw confirmed much of the negative things that were said about him back then by republicans that I reflexively rejected, then.
His life after the presidency and after the house building, proves they were right.
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
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in GA when he was in the Leg and Governor. Wife 1.0 dated Chip Carter for a while in college and I knew him as well. Carter was your basic oleogenous, self-serving, self-important small town, small time politician who moved up from the JayCees to politics. Nothing has changed; a very small man trying to fit in large places.
In Vino Veritas
Israel is a state. Judaism is a religious faith. It is nonsense to equate the two, and disagreeing with the actions of the state of Israel does not mean that one hates those who follow the Jewish faith. Actually, about 23% of Israelis are not even Jewish, and millions of Jews are obviously not Israeli.
Dispute Carter over his opinions on Israeli policy, that's fine. But it's completely uncalled for and hurtful to declare the man antisemitic.
of the PLO, Iranian and other nation's leaders cause him to change his policies toward same or even make it an issue of human rights to denounce.
Jimmy may be willing to sacrifice the non-Jewish minority in Israel for the greater good. Clinton too. read this:
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/12677
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
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In Clinton's own words:
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die." (Former US President Bill Clinton, July 31, 2002)
Wow...sounds like unequivocal support for the existence of the state of Israel delivered with bravado...not that that has anything to do with anti-semitism. In the article you cite, Clinton was quoted blathering about Iran. Regardless of one's feelings about Iran, making a positive statement about that country is not logically equivalent to making a negative statement about Israel, which in turn is not synonymous with the Jewish people or faith. And which is (drumroll, please) not anti-semitism.
Carter has been outspoken in particular about his opposition to Israeli settlement policy in the West Bank. He has also stated:
"Israel's right to exist - and to live in peace - must be recognized and accepted by Palestinians and all other neighbors."
Again, that seems pretty clear...and also again, not that it has the slightest thing to do with antisemitism.
refute their actual policies in office and voluminous statements out of office that find moral equivalence between terror sponsoring and executing NGOs and terror state leaders as per their true intentions. They empower the people that want to eliminate all jews, but that thery make a gratuitous statement for Israel makes all the former irrelevant? You couldn't pass the LSAT.
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So you selectively either accuse Clinton of lying or take him entirely at face value depending on whether it suits your preconceived narrative.
And if, further, you are unable not only to distinguish between direct and indirect actions and but also to separate positions taken on the conduct of the state of Israel from hatred of Jews and their faith, then you are seemingly beyond the pale of rational argument, and I give up. Apparently anyone who argues against Israel or speaks in the least flattering terms of their adversaries is axiomatically an antisemite. This is the sort of confused nonsense I normally associate with the far left, such as asserting equivalence of oppostion to affirmative action with racism.
They could be useful idiots for same. It really doesn't matter. Their policies and statements make serve the interests of those that seek to eliminate Israel and/or Jews. It is possible to love the ones you cause to bring harm to. I just think it matters more what is the consequence of one's actions that what they "feel".
You could be right. Carter and Clinton may love the Jews and hate the Arabs and just not know how to show their love.
feel better?
have the uncontrolled sighs stopped?
try hiccup remedies
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That quote was in reference Hillary about the Monica thingy. He said, "Alls I really knows is that I'ld have a better chance against the Iraqi or Iranian armies if that bitch ever gets a rifle and gets me her sights, I'll die.
Seriusly, do you believe what he said?
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Carter got involved w/ Habitat to house all the homeless he created during his term.
If you always find yourself arguing the exceptions rather than the rule you just might be rapidly sliding down your own slippery slope to irrelevance. -CommonCents
You're ripping on him for building houses for the poor? Give me a break...that's pretty low. And I suppose his work on fighting a wide variety of parasitic diseases in Africa is just a cynical ploy? Per the Carter Center web site:
"As Guinea worm is poised to become the next disease after smallpox to be wiped off the face of the Earth, eradication efforts are rejuvenating communities throughout Africa, enabling children to return to school and farmers to their fields. The Center spearheads the international campaign, which has reduced cases by more than 99.5 percent since 1986."
Those things are nasty...they're several feet long and burrow through your leg, causing terrible pain and debilitation. And they may soon be wiped out, thanks in no small part to Carter's efforts. Treating river blindness is also a huge deal, potentially saving millions from a lifetime of disability.
Okay, folks, let's see a show of "hands"...have any of you who are flogging Carter or volunteering to dig his grave saved millions of people from devastating illnesses? No? Then at least dispense with the ad hominem and death wishes...
What's his view on DDT?
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I'll cash in my ticket to Atlanta and buy him one from Atlanta to Guinea so he can properly document his good work.
Mind you, it won't offset the fact that he's an antisemitic, anti-American, small, pathetic, self absorbed old fool. But it's a start and hopefully, it'll take him a long time. And it's a one way ticket.
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I'll take that gratuitous, hateful screed as "no, I haven't".
You have a pretty significant reality block.
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Building homes for less fortunate is a great thing. I am just saying it is the least he could do after his disastrous term. I 'm sure he did it out of guilt.
If you always find yourself arguing the exceptions rather than the rule you just might be rapidly sliding down your own slippery slope to irrelevance. -CommonCents
Interest rates were in double digits incl the hugh double didgits for years prevent in many from buying homes, and resulting in foreclosures for more for years in the future.
Yes, guilt.
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How do you spin Carter's spirited defense of Millard "the Molester" Fuller and his own little Guinea worm?? If Jimmuh were a Catholic priest, you would probably be flogging him as hard as you could.
this out and tell us again what paragon of virtue this bitter, small, old fool is.
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Where is the quote that shows that Carter hates the Jews? Are you suggesting that claiming that Israel is not blameless is the same thing as hating them?
Also, it's been 30 years and the Israelis and Egyptians still haven't fought a war. How exactly were the Camp David Accords a failure?
"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not." George Bernard Shaw