Slapping classified information on the front page just isn't enough.
By Jeff Emanuel Posted in arrogance | Media | Miscellanea | NYT — Comments (28) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
The New York Times has decided that they are so above the rules that they can ignore the embargo on the most anticipated book of the century, and are running a review of the final Harry Potter volume in tomorrow's paper -- 48 hours before the book's release.
Many have waited ten years for this to arrive. The NYT, in a fit of "look what I can do that you can't!," has decided that they want to rub in your face the fact that they can get the book three days before you.
Pathetic. In my opinion, Rowling should sue.
Open thread.
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If Rowling asked them not to print it, they shouldn't print it.
reviewers don't publish their reviews until the day the movie is released. The issue isn't about reading the book in advance, the issue is breaking an embargo.
Once media organizations start breaking embargos then people will stop issuing press releases with an embargo date and reporters will be unable to interview key players before the press release is made public.
One would think that any newspaper would realize that the only thing that keeps them competitive in news coverage is the concept of an embargo.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
aka :)
look for it in my original comment.
it was a joke. Relax.
“Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15.”
-Ronald Reagan
Harry Potter, what's the difference? The NYT doesn't care...
Now what will PROBABLY happen is that they'll back down at the last second, because they've had pangs of guilt. But would they hold back on releasing information on the defense of troops in Iraq, or our counter-terrorism strategy? Hell, no...Potter is IMPORTANT!
Oh, wait - I don't read the Times anyway!
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
It was a little embarrassing when they told me I didn't have a subscription. I forgot, I've been stealing my neighbor's papers for the last year or so.
I canceled his subscription.
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(or other moderators/Potter fans) can you start a predictions thread either tomorrow or Friday on the front page? I'd do one in the diaries, but it probably wouldn't get as much feedback.
"My heart was here...I feel like I have unfinished business here." - Roy Hibbert
can you start a predictions thread either tomorrow or Friday on the front page?
But prophecies can only be read by the one whom they affect.
Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net
"My heart was here...I feel like I have unfinished business here." - Roy Hibbert
Although I read RedState on a daily basis, I'm not a frequent contributor; however, I'd like to take this opportunity to celebrate the life of my Grandfather, who passed away this afternoon.
Born the son of a poor second-generation Greek immigrant and his Cherokee wife, he was the 9th of 11 children. Growing up in Columbia, South Carolina, he performed a number of odd jobs to bring in extra money for the family, as his mother died of cancer when he was 10 years old.
At age 17, he volunteered to join the Navy just after the attack on Pearl Harbor. He served as a radio operator, sitting behind the pilot, and was lucky to have survived the War, as his plane was shot down over the Pacific on two separate occasions - the first occuring during the Battle of Midway.
After the War, he married my Grandmother and they started a family, eventually having five children, including my father.
Retiring from the Navy in the early 1960s, he worked for the civil service a number of years before retiring altogether in 1980. He and my Grandmother had their troubles, as most all married coupled do at some point, yet they remained married 62 years, until his passing this afternoon.
I'm very proud of my Grandfather. He was never a rich man, yet he never left his family wanting. He worked to provide for those he loved from the time he was a child until his death, having served his country honorably and bravely, as well. Having been diagnosed with cancer and given six months to live back in 2000, he continued to defy the odds and lived another seven years.
R.I.P. Grandad. I'm going to miss you, but I'm also happy to know you're in a better place and will suffer pain no more.
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We are all heroes, you and Boo and I. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!
Your Grandad sounds like salt-of-the-earth. It reminds me of The Old Guard Toast.
Toaster: Here's to us and those like us.
Response: Dam few left!
No doubt, you'll do his memory proud... you already have.
On starting a news embargo starting Friday night until I finished the book. Looks like I might have to start tomorrow. Only ESPN and Redstate until the book is done.
"My heart was here...I feel like I have unfinished business here." - Roy Hibbert
Umm...how exactly does this harm the fans?
A link to your source would have been nice too as I'm not inclined to trust your account alone of this critical moment for all conservatives.
But if you're right and there is a general embargo--breaking embargoes is a bad-faith gesture that may erode a reporter's relationship with his sources. This is dangerous when handling classified information or anything that puts a source at risk.
It does not apply to product reviews, which are embargoed only out of fear that people will learn a negative truth about the product and not fall for the marketing buzz.
I'm a little embarrassed to have banged out a hundred words on this.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
I just read a bunch of the 'documents' on Mary Mapes's website.
Run like Reagan!
think twice before you write, and save us all the trouble of scrolling past your post.... Go back to where your wit is appreciated...
I'm a little embarrassed to admit that i read all hundred words
...and wish that I could unread it.
Do not waste my time again.
...but I am getting more interested in why you think it's so harmful. Guess I'll have to go find it.
Do not waste your time...[puzzled look].
If I can, I never start a series until the last book/episode is out. You can be sure even those that have been following along don't want the ending spoiled.
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-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
...that anyone who wanted to has already read the book. It's been available for download for a couple of days. Is that illegal? Sure, it's also not costing them very many sales, if any.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Reviews by their very nature, whether film or book, are designed to be read before one purchases or sees their subject. So what does it matter that a review was published one day early?
The New York Times is an organization run by unethical people. That's what it means.
Run like Reagan!
but I don't know that this is an example of it. I mean, I've read tons of book reviews in the past for books not published yet. ARCs usually get sent out well in advance of actual publication. In fact, I have 2 books in my pile right now, The Terror by Dan Simmons, and Thirteen by Richard K Morgan, where I know I read reviews before they were published because I had to wait to buy the book.
As another example, you see Glenn Reynolds noting when he gets books mailed to him. In many cases they're ahead of publication. When he gives his short, pithy reviews afterwards is he being unethical?
Look, I'll bash the Times as much as anyone, but publishing a book review a day early just isn't a big deal. Now, if, on the other hand, they revealed the shocking ending in that review, that's a different story.
_Glenn Reynolds noting when he gets books mailed to him. In many cases they're ahead of publication. When he gives his short, pithy reviews afterwards is he being unethical?_
If they were sent under embargo, yes.
Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net
I don't know Glenn Reynolds, but if you'd read what Jeff wrote, you'd see that the issue here are review copies sent UNDER EMBARGO.
Making an an example of Glenn Reynolds without specifying whether the books he discusses are UNDER EMBARGO is to miss the point entirely.
Run like Reagan!


Letting movie critics see films before they are released? :)
“Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15.”
-Ronald Reagan