The Gathering Storm over Denver.

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Seeing this blog entry on Recreate 68 and their plans for the Denver convention, I did a bit more in the way of searching for news on what's supposed to be going down there. A mild amount of digging came across this video:

Recreate '68

(Via Slapstick Politics; check out also The Drunkablog, who has apparently been personally insulted by Ward Churchill.)

...which is a roundtable between Denver Councilman Charlie Brown and Recreate 68 spokesman (said with malice aforethought) Glenn Spagnuolo. It's both somewhat long and not particularly sexy, but you should watch it anyway. Particularly if you're somebody telling yourself the fairy tale that the streets of Denver will flow milk and honey once the DNC nominates that nice Senator Obama.

Read on.

To summarize: the Denver city government is not the happiest of campers. There's a likely revenue shortfall looming - in what was (as far as I can tell*) the only mention of the actual candidates, Councilman Brown complained that both campaigns were too busy fighting each other to pass along any financial assistance - and Denver is apparently becoming more and more exasperated with the protesters, who are planning to descend in the tens of thousands upon a city with no spare hotel space AT ALL and a positive disinclination to just let them sleep in the parks.

This issue took up a good chunk of the interview, with complaints about the permitting process coming a close second, and Spagnuolo's continuing refusal to declaratively state that the protesting groups will obey the law bringing up the rear. Spagnuolo (as is usual for a member of the organized antiwar movement) either doesn't seem to understand that the First Amendment doesn't actually give him the right to guaranteed housing on vacations/business trips; or else does understand, but knows that screaming about his rights will get him sympathetic ink somewhere. Hard to tell, really - at any rate, he wants his people to have the "right" to sleep in the parks, he hinted that they're going to confront the cops when they come to roust them out, and you get the feeling that the press release screeching about "police brutality" is already written and on somebody's hard drive.

So: par for the course, I hear you cry. Not... precisely.

There's been speculation of what might happen in the Denver streets if Senator Clinton gets the nomination. At this moment in time, Senator Obama has a technical lead in delegates, but absent either a wholesale surge in super-delegate support, or a meteor hitting Clinton, neither candidate will have enough delegates to win on the first ballot, and Chaos and Old Night will descend upon the Pepsi Center if it goes to a second ballot. Should Clinton eventually win, one line of thought is that the protesters outside will go reliably nuts and trash the city... which should not be a factor in deciding who gets the nomination, but probably would be, anyway.

Interestingly, the above interview suggests that Denver's going to get the trashing anyway. Nobody talked about the Bush administration, nobody talked about Bush himself, nobody even mentioned either Clinton or Obama by name. Spagnuolo came across as being permanently offended by the Democratic Party in general; and while Senator Obama is easily the most palatable candidate of the two available to him and his, I am hardly confident in the antiwar movement's ability to know when to quit when they're ahead. Put another way; I am no longer confident that nominating Obama will forestall riots in the streets. I am starting to consider the possibility that it won't actually matter who gets the nomination, in fact. It could be Al Gore with Dennis Kuchinich as his VP, and they'll still end up throwing garbage cans through McDonalds' plate glass windows.

That's... going to change a lot of assumptions. Starting with what we can expect to realistically accomplish in the Mountain West this November.

Moe Lane

*I was listening for references to the GOP and/or any national politician's name, but there were at least three examples of crosstalk and I don't have a transcript.

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Is your link OK? by speciallist

Maybe its me...I've yet to see a myspace video link work smooth

I admit I am conflicted after watching this video...torn between disgust and dyspepsia.

I just don't get the Recreate 68 mentality. Anarchy is not my thing, so watching someone so committed to anarchist behavior rattle me. There are way too many of these out in the environs, and they are growing.

Watching this play out in real life can't be good for the Democratic Party. Even die hard liberals can want this to happen.

Kate

“It is the American vice, the democratic disease which expresses its tyranny by reducing everything unique to the level of the herd.” Henry Miller

idiots by sdillard

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. Here we have Code Pink doing their ongoing "action" at the Marine recruiting station near the UC Berkeley campus. This has been going on for months. All they have accomplished is annoying almost all the businesses in downtown Berkeley, annoying people just trying to walk down the street, and bringing about a stinging boycott of Berkeley businesses by the rest of us. Code Pink knows they are accomplishing nothing, but they won't stop. Same with the fools in Denver. They know they will accomplish nothing and change nothing. But no one, NO ONE, will be allowed to keep them from expressing their "rage" at.....well, it doesn't really matter, does it?

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Just get serious about law and order in the lead up to the convention. Crank up the vagrancy and civil disturbance ordinances and enforce them the way New York does parking violations.

Just a matter of having the will. Did you say there was a Democrat Mayor ? well scratch that.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

I'm trying to figure out a way to make money at the convention.

That many people coming in? There has *GOT* to be a way that I can use this to my advantage and make *MONEY*.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Bottled water. <NT> by Moe Lane

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

I suggest we get some rocks and paint them green and tell them that they wad off global warming....I'm in if your in...;)

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

be buying it by the truck load.

they should sell well to protesters -- they never remember to bring their own.

$3? No, no, no. by simpson316

You have much to learn about evil capitalism.

You can get away with $5.



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And you're right. These are the affluent enough to fly in on their own time for the protest of the week and many of them would be pretentious enough to pay $5.

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This ain't '68 by MadHatChemist

While there will be protesters and peole trying to cause chaos, I think their impact won't be that great and their numbers and influence overblown.

Also, any doubt that the Dems and th4e MSM will make sure that the convention will be "perceived" as peaceful...

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

I'll post daily reports. by NightTwister

I should be able to see the fires from here (Fort Collins).

"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." -Fred Dalton Thompson

Talk is cheap by civil truth

Also, I doubt there was this much conversation in advance by the instigators of the Chicago 1968 convention riots - though I'm open to correction on this point.

It sounds more like Glenn is trying to bootstrap his way up to a disturbance by trying to entice people to come by promising a disturbance in the hope that if he talks enough, people will come. However, I don't see a galvanizing issue among malcontents like the war in 1968 that will get these people off their bottoms to caravan to Denver. Nor anything that can be reduced to a simple slogan, which is an utter necessity so as not to overload the participants' mental processes.

With Bush retiring, I'm not even sure these groups can get up a serious disturbance at the Republican convention. I'm sure they'll try, but McCain is just not going to zap these folks enough to get them moving.

And Rightly So!

I am pretty sure the activists won't be that....uhmmmm...active.

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

but of course, federal law can always supersede (no phonetic pun intended).

lesterblog.blogspot.com

I agree. n/t by aaronbg

"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!

Sigh by AzRenegade

As a former Littleton resident I have mixed feelings about this convention. I have many great memories of living in the Denver area, and do not wish to see that city in turmoil. But
I do wish the world to see first hand the radical and violent tendencies of the far left wing of the Democrat party.

Will there be a Denver 7 trial?

AzRenegade

 
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