William Ayers and Sen. Coburn
What is the difference between a terrorist and a Senator?
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I don't get offended easily and I'm not one who cares for a lot of harping on things besides issues. But Sen. Obama compared convicted terrorist William Ayers to Sen. Coburn tonight. While trying to explain why he is friends with a convicted terrorist, Sen. Obama said that he was also friends with Sen. Coburn who supports the death penalty for abortionists. I'm not one to pick nits, but Sen. Coburn ran for office and is trying to change the law without making any violent actions. William Ayers tried to kill innocent people to make a political point.
Sen. Obama made an entirely inappropriate analogy and I would suggest that Sen. Coburn demand an apology. Even if Sen. Coburn doesn't, reporters should ask whether Sen. Obama understands the difference between pro-life politicians and people who set bombs to kill innocent people.
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I guess Sen. Coburn's just another typical white person.
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
That was another window into the soul of Senator Obama. He continues to let his real feelings show when he attempts to speak off the cuff.
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We can only dream that a reporter would ever ask such a question of a Democrat.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.“--Jeff Cooper. From Bill Coffey's collection of military quotations
Wasn't Charlie Gibson the host of the R Facebook debate that went really well?
He may be my favorite questioner for political debates.
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I thought by the question "reporters should ask whether Sen. Obama understands the difference between pro-life politicians and people who set bombs to kill innocent people." you meant nobody had.
I think you're right about Gibson. He did get good reviews for an earlier stint. Not as good as these, though.
I missed the show. Somehow, it's easier to get the highlights here.
Anyway, whenever Ayers is mentioned, it should be pointed out that he is an admitted unrepentant bomber on hiatus, not a rehabilitated one. Don't cross him, Hannity. He prefers bombs to bombast.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.“--Jeff Cooper. From Bill Coffey's collection of military quotations
Have you no shame, Senator Obama?
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isn't voting the real terrorism? It's the terrorism of the ballot box, keeping the common English professor down. /Snark.
This may be a glimmer of Equivalency shining through the Wright- and Harvard-induced fog. Obama has been steeped in the liberal doctrine of means justified by goals, so it doesn't surprise that he would equate Coburn's actions within the system with Ayers' attempts to destroy it.
Ooh, I feel a blog coming on.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
Several years ago Gov. Ann Richards of Texas made the now infamous comment "Poor George,(Now President Bush), he can't help it he was born with a silver foot in his mouth."
This was in response to gaffes he made while on the campaign trail.
Well, I will tell you, Barry Obama is making Poor George look like Ned in the First Reader when it comes to opening mouth and inserting foot.
One has to believe that his gaffes are either how he genuinely feels or that he is lying. If he is lying it goes to the heart of his integrity or should we say the lack thereof or if he genuinely feels that way he is not someone we want for our President.
President Barry Obama is not a moniker I want to become a "household name".
Ayers never tried to kill anyone; they pre-announced their bombings. Some fellow Weathermen did die in an accidental explosion. Their terrorism was an attempt to change what they saw as illegal, immoral acts by the US government, but they weren't trying to hurt anyone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Coburn's own website includes this quote from 2004: "I favor the death penalty for abortionists and other people who take life." http://www.coburnforsenate.com/press21.shtml
They're not equivalent, but Obama doesn't see why either one's radicalism is his responsibility. Obama joined the board of the Woods Fund in 1993; Ayers joined in 1999; Obama left the board in 2002. They overlapped, but that doesn't make them best friends.
He's unrepentant for the bombings, because he wanted to reduce the number of deaths of US soldiers and Vietnamese civilians and was ineffective in doing so. But do you have evidence that he is unrepentant for the accidental deaths of his girlfriend and the other Weatherman who died while handling explosives? There are no other people anyone at all has accused him of killing.
...as well as the servicemen themselves, are proper targets for domestic terrorists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)
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Do not defend people like that again here.
Apologize for doing that. Now.
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is that individuals don't get to do violence to call attention to wrongs. War is for nations.
And like Ayers, you justify the bombings by saying they were preannounced. Is it OK to risk harming people, and to be certain of the destruction of property, because you want to make a point?
That's what free speech and the ballot box are for.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
Ayers' wikipedia page doesn't mention the Fort Dix conspiracy, so I missed that and thought his bombings were not aimed at hurting people. And, no, I don't justify bombings that don't aim to hurt people; though I do try to evaluate intent. In this case, you all are right; one has to assume he was involved in that plan and therefore intended for people to die.
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So, you're OK with destroying property because you think it's a way to change people's minds? Would you mind posting your home address? I think somebody might like to change your mind.
That's allegorical, of course, but you see where using explosives is not anywhere near an approved debating technique. The very best thing that could be said for it is that it reduces discourse to survival of the most well armed.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.“--Jeff Cooper. From Bill Coffey's collection of military quotations
One person supports changing the law in order for the state to dispense justice (whether you agree with the punishment is irrelevant).
The other tried to blow up buildings.
They ain't in the same ballpark.
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From William Ayers wikipedia page: Ayres was born into a wealthy Illinois family and received a private school education before matriculating at the University of Michigan...
I found this kind of funny. I go to the University of Florida, and in my experience, it's completely representative of my theory of new leftists. Here's my theorem:
As radical militant leftism increases, the chances of being from a privileged background increases.
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