The US Attorney Kerfuffle Becomes Fun

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"Like Dead Sea fruits, that tempt the eye, / But turn to ashes on the lips!”
St. Thomas More, martyr

Only a couple of short weeks ago congressional Dems were crowing about "criminal contempt" citations directed at the White House. (Presumably this refers to actual people and not a piece of federal property but when you're dealing with this bunch it isn't good to take much for granted.)

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said yesterday that he will attempt to cite the White House for criminal contempt of Congress if it does not turn over documents related to the firing of nine federal prosecutors.

"If they don't cooperate, yes, I'd go that far," Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "This is very important to the American people."

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The next step is for the congressional committee chairman to rule on the validity of the privilege claims. If the claims are deemed invalid, the committee can repeat the directive to comply. If the president continues to refuse, the committee can find the president in criminal contempt, and the issue would go to the full Senate or House. If a majority in either chamber approves the criminal citation, the matter is referred to a U.S. attorney with a recommendation to issue an indictment.

Today they have ashes.

Read on.

I think the current kerfuffle over the firing of a a handful of presidential appointees is one of the most disgraceful, superficial, and childish acts by Congress since the October Surprise investigation instigated by the aptly named Gary Sick. The president can fire appointees because he is displeased with their hair color or choice of snack foods. This isn't a news flash to anyone who's familiar with that system.

Today the Washington Post reports that the Administration has upped the ante in the game they are playing and has said that they aren't particularly concerned about any citiation, criminal or otherwise, that may emanate from the Congress because they are going to ignore them.

Bush administration officials unveiled a bold new assertion of executive authority yesterday in the dispute over the firing of nine U.S. attorneys, saying that the Justice Department will never be allowed to pursue contempt charges initiated by Congress against White House officials once the president has invoked executive privilege.

The position presents serious legal and political obstacles for congressional Democrats, who have begun laying the groundwork for contempt proceedings against current and former White House officials in order to pry loose information about the dismissals

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"Serious legal and political obstacles"? Ya think? But there is more.

But administration officials argued yesterday that Congress has no power to force a U.S. attorney to pursue contempt charges in cases, such as the prosecutor firings, in which the president has declared that testimony or documents are protected from release by executive privilege. Officials pointed to a Justice Department legal opinion during the Reagan administration, which made the same argument in a case that was never resolved by the courts.

"A U.S. attorney would not be permitted to bring contempt charges or convene a grand jury in an executive privilege case," said a senior official, who said his remarks reflect a consensus within the administration. "And a U.S. attorney wouldn't be permitted to argue against the reasoned legal opinion that the Justice Department provided. No one should expect that to happen."

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly, added: "It has long been understood that, in circumstances like these, the constitutional prerogatives of the president would make it a futile and purely political act for Congress to refer contempt citations to U.S. attorneys."

This is the quintessential political fight that the Dems are attempting, as they always do, to criminalize and the Administration has said it isn't going to play. If Conyers and Nostrildamus believe they have a case they have tools available.

They can withold funds from the Executive branch in order to gain compliance and take the heat when part of the government shuts down. The article notes:

Both chambers also have an "inherent contempt" power, allowing either body to hold its own trials and even jail those found in defiance of Congress. Although widely used during the 19th century, the power has not been invoked since 1934 and Democratic lawmakers have not displayed an appetite for reviving the practice.

Though one wonders what mechanism they would plan on using to compel someone to appear before their kangaroo court and where that person would be incarcerated and by whom.

They can impeach, the Constitutional remedy for this situation, but that would require both courage and leadership. Since they are devoid of those traits, along with, I would argue honor and integrity, their only course of action is to whine.

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Clinton's impeachment was a disaster for the GOP and I can only imagine the Democrats getting slaughtered by such a thing.

Oz

www.first-cut-politics.blospot.com

Clinton's impeachment was a disaster for the GOP

Hit a Republican with this idea and they will invariably start talking about perjury as a serious crime. And they will be right. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a political disaster. It convinced the public that impeachment is an appropriate act of political retribution.

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We would also like to know your advice for somebody like my daughter, who's going to graduate in two years, advice that you would give a young person.

SEC. RUMSFELD: Advice for a young person. Study history.

that you've been drinking the Dem's Kool-Aid. So you believe that it was "political retribution?" Perjury isn't a prosecutable offense? We were just supposed to let a criminal off scot-free?

Now perhaps you're just reflecting the opinion of the public. That's fine. But any self-respecting conservative should be soundly convinced that the impeachment of Bill Clinton was a result of his violating the law. This is why the left's blather about impeachment is so comical - I've yet to see a single credible claim of a violation of the law by GWB. They think they can impeach Bush because they don't like him or his decisions. Sorry, kids, but that ain't how the Constitution works.

It is not Kool-Aid by Whitfox

to acknowledge the politically impossible. The case was weak, and it wasn't going to get the two-thirds majority necessary for impeachment.

Yes, Clinton perjured himself in a civil trial. That does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Obstruction of justice might have done it, if it could have been proven. But that charge didn't even get out of the House. There was a plausible story for it, but not nearly enough evidence to convince the American public - which is what it would have taken to get enough Democratic senators.

I'm a lot less interested in idealistic charges than in winning real gains. The impeachment trial was a net loss for Republicans, if a minor one. I don't see the merit in that.

Too bad by Jack Savage

Too bad rape isn't a really big deal to politicians or CLinton would have been in really big trouble.

What's a little perjury by the President, anyway?

In the old days by Paul J Cella

of course, Congress did its jailing of contemptuous witnesses itself. My study of the matter discloses that the reasons for abandoning this process were unwise, and even perverse. In 1857, when Congress first passed legislation designed to refer contumacious witnesses to federal prosecutors, it still went on jailing people itself -- many speculated that that statute was designed merely as an additional punitive measure.

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And the Lord upon the Golden Horn is laughing in the sun.

Hmmmm by grinder

There is something not right here. As far as getting Harriet Miers to testify the Democrats have two options. One is to pursue the option of "Contempt of Congress", which they are pursuing, but it will ultimately lead nowhere as it requires the cooperation of the DC DoJ.

The other, as Paul points out, is to go with "Inherent Contempt", which hasn't been used since the 1930's. Essentially the Sargeant at Arms just goes and gets Miers and brings her to whichever house had compelled her to testify. If she continues to refuse to testify the Congress can immediately try/convict and jail her for "inherent contempt".

What I don't understand is why the action hasn't been taken (or even seriously discussed) yet by the Democrats. I'm thinking that the Democrats don't actually want any of these investigations to progress at anything more than a snails pace (are they timing for mid to late 2008?)

"Regarding the US Attorney issue, Senator Reid declared today that he is taking his ball and going home."

Seriously, I think the Democrats are persuing this issue only to provide cover if they win the WH. Then the "deep cleaning" purge of the offices of the US Attorneys will begin- extensive firings and the replacement of hundeds of staff with left wing idealogs.
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"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." -- James Madison

In the court of public opinion, impeachment is already taking place. The Dems want to make the case for impeachment without doing the nasty work.

But the last thing the Dems could want is for there to be a fresh face for AG, or in the oval office, before election day '08.

Why is the Whitehouse stalling at turning over the Pat Tillman info?

Are they just completely unwilling to work with Congress's fishing expeditions?

This one bothers me about 100 times more than the AG "scandal".

documents that is, the ones that have released to date in this melodrama that may run longer than Gunsmoke or I Love Lucy.
But this is what it was all about, no crime committed but develop a specious case around the investigation. Quite simply an ugly perversion of Congressional power.

What exactly would 9,000 as opposed to 8,000 documents establish, or whatever the number is. Still, there was no and cannot be any crime committed in the firings.

This is the sort of red but rancid meat fed to a part of our public that will gobble up any slop thrown their way. The Democrats cater to an audience as low as they are.

"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville

Or in other words by Mark I

"[Chairman Leahy] has made his ruling...now let's see him enforce it."

--(with apologies to) Andrew Jackson

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Develop alternatives to existing policies and keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable. Milton Friedman


Congressman Cannon is the ranking Republican on the subcommittee overseeing this farce of an investigation.

You can read more of what he has said here: http://chriscannon.house.gov/News/DocumentQuery.aspx?CatagoryID=3681

No matter what, he and the rest of the GOP members of the committee have really been fighting the good fight on this. However, one cannot disagree with johnt and NotSoBlue...watching the Dems go down this road that will lead them to an empty pot at the end of this rainbow is going to be fun to watch.

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Fred Piccolo
Communications Director
Rep. Chris Cannon (R-UT)
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1) There is always going to be some document they can't get, so what is Bush hiding?
2) Every document they do get will be "troubling" and/or it will "result in more questions than answers".

IOW it's a giant fishing expedition that by its very nature can have no end.

And the sad thing is that as a matter of law as I understand it, the President can fire these attorneys for purely political or for any other reasons. So the whole thing is a giant waste of time.

If Hillary gets elected, no doubt there will be dead silence just like there was when her hubby fired the whole lot of them.

 
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