Not The Answer on Darfur
another day another truly bad idea
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Part of the Clinton administration foreign policy brain trust, Susan Rice and Anthony Lake, along with New Jersey congressman Donald Payne fronted an op-ed entitled We Saved Europeans. Why Not Africans?
Once we get past the ugly race-baiting in the title (and the irony of Susan Rice being an author given her involvement in forcing the elected government of Sierra Leone to share power with the brutal RUF guerrilla organization) we have another great reason to never trust the Democrats with national security again. Unsurprisingly, they claim that Kosovo was a great success and it was achieved by the relatively bloodless means of selectively bombing targets in what was then Yugoslavia, such as the ChiCom embassy.
Read on.
I don’t want to refight the entire Balkans campaign but I think any fair reading of the events there clearly indicates that by the time NATO intervened in 1999 that the rump Yugoslavian state was a spent force and that within Kosovo ethnic cleansing, by all parties, did more to establish equilibrium than the malfeasance and misfeasance of Wesley Clark.
The United States, preferably with NATO involvement and African political support, would strike Sudanese airfields, aircraft and other military assets. It could blockade Port Sudan, through which Sudan's oil exports flow. Then U.N. troops would deploy -- by force, if necessary, with U.S. and NATO backing.
If the United States fails to gain U.N. support, we should act without it. Impossible? No, the United States acted without U.N. blessing in 1999 in Kosovo to confront a lesser humanitarian crisis (perhaps 10,000 killed) and a more formidable adversary. Under NATO auspices, it bombed Serbian targets until Slobodan Milosevic acquiesced. Not a single American died in combat. Many nations protested that the United States violated international law, but the United Nations subsequently deployed a mission to administer Kosovo and effectively blessed NATO military action retroactively.
Unthinkable in the current context? True, the international climate is less forgiving than in 1999. Iraq and torture scandals have left many abroad doubting our motives and legitimacy. Some will reject any future U.S. military action, especially against an Islamic regime, even if it is purely to halt genocide against Muslim civilians. Sudan has also threatened that al-Qaeda will attack non-African forces in Darfur -- a real possibility since Sudan long hosted Osama bin Laden and his businesses. Yet, to allow another nation to deter the United States by threatening terrorism would set a terrible precedent. It would also be cowardly and, in the face of genocide, immoral.
But even if one were to stipulate simply for the purposes of argument that Kosovo worked as advertised I would still hope that reasonable people could agree that there really are no similarities between Kosovo and Somalia.
At least Milosevic’s Serbia had things they wished to protect. Bridges, auto factories, trains, etc. Serbia is small, it was surrounded by neighbors who didn’t like it very much, it was easily accessible to any military force that wanted to take a whack at it.
The issue here is the implication that dropping bombs is going to change anything in Darfur. They really have no infrastructure to speak of. The Sudan military isn’t the primary instrument of genocide, rather government induced famine and the janjaweed militia. How blockading Sudan helps the condition of the Africans now being slaughtered and starved when any relief supplies they receive come through those ports is beyond my comprehension.
Is the basic Peace of Westphalia principle of sovereignty applicable to failed states or does the UN, or in the Rice-Lake op-ed a vague international coalition, have the right to act as sort of a conservator or guardian for failed states? At what point would we draw the line? North Korea? Burma? What do we do with and for these nominal states once we stop the slaughter? Do we put them into receivership? Taken to its logical conclusion Rice and Lake are really calling for a return to some form of imperialism else our periodic forays to stop the killing in some Third World dung heap doesn’t seem to make much sense.
There is no doubt that a tragedy is taking place in Darfur. The answer to that tragedy is a bit more, to quote John F. Kerry, nuanced than military intervention, especially US military intervention. The Darfur tragedy is a paradigm for what the West will face for the next few decades as globalization swiftly divides the world into complacent haves and raging have-nots and we should take some time to get this right.
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is something for which Clinton will one day be held accountable; him, and many others.
You'd hope we'd learn from that mistake. Not saying bombing is the answer but neither is the hands-off approach that we (and the U.N.) have taken to date.
was at war before, during and after the Clinton administration's tenure. The Bush administration actually got something done there.
Only liberal Democrats do...
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher
All we need do is bomb a third party embassy and a few asprin factories in the Sudan and we are home free.
Oh yeah! and put in a big force of blue helmeted Eurotrash who will rape children as they did elsewhere in Africa.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
He was asked by Kofi last year to provide US troups. I like his answer.
Let the EU handle this one, after all they watched 9,000 Muslims frog march off to a machine gun in Yugosolvia, and did nothing.
Everyone with a family member suffering from diabetes, Parkinson's disease or heart failure wishes Bush had kept that veto pen in his pocket.
I'd like to read it. I'd enjoy it. Thanks.
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-af/2006/feb/10/021001956.htm...
we never went, as Bush said no
Everyone with a family member suffering from diabetes, Parkinson's disease or heart failure wishes Bush had kept that veto pen in his pocket.
Everyone with a family member suffering from diabetes, Parkinson's disease or heart failure wishes Bush had kept that veto pen in his pocket.
That may be so, but it doesn't make them right. ALL of the breakthroughs are coming from adult cells and basically no advancements are coming from fetal cells. (and there is plenty of research going on without government funding.)
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
As a diabetic who has suffered 2 heart attacks, I'm glad Bush's veto pen was used. Don't save my life at the expense of innocent life.
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher
True, the international climate is less forgiving than in 1999. Iraq and torture scandals have left many abroad doubting our motives and legitimacy. Some will reject any future U.S. military action, especially against an Islamic regime, even if it is purely to halt genocide against Muslim civilians.
Now let me think, haven't many prominent Democrats gone abroad to foster the process of doubting our motives and legitimacy in Iraq? And don't they think that Iraq would have been better off under Saddam, despite the mass murders and death toll from the embargo?
Or is this just about who's in charge? Democrats -good; Republicans - evil!
There are no easy answers in Darfur.
Applied American force = end of mass murder
(But I know what you meant something else...)
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher
Democrats only support the use of force when US strategic interests are not in jeopordy. I feel sorry for the people in Dafur, but in an era of stretched military assets, I don't think that bombing African Muslims for "humanitarian" reasons is a good idea.
Have generated a calculas of the value of human life.
1 point if the loss of the life would embarass a republican
2 points if saving the life puts our troops lives in danger for european interests
-1 point if saving the life embarases a democrat
-5 points if the life would advance us interests
-10 points if the U.S. millitary gets to do well by doing good
+20 points if the life can potentially illegally vote democrat
be willing to endure an occupation after destroying the Janjaweed and the Sudanese military? Do they expect the prejudices of supremacist Arabs to disappear overnight, by decree?
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher
Save Darfur: Zionist Conspiracy?
African Genocide exploited for Propaganda
By Ned Goldstein, WW4 Report
http://ww4report.com/node/2582
omigosh, those people control everything, don't they? Personally, I would have put my money on the Bilderbergers or the Trilateral Commission. Shows how sneaky they are, eh, slip right in beneath your radar.
There's a reason why all those European and international institutions are in Brussels...
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher
Jackbooted ZOG thugs will be by shortly to pick you up and put you in a camp. Or whatever else the hell it is your ilk believe will happen to you if the Jews take over.
Geez, streiff. You rushed this morning, or something?
Blam.
Moe
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
My fault. I thought he already got him.
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Even those who learn from history are surrounded by those doomed to repeat it.
credit to the Jews.
(Reminder to anti-Jewish bigots: you should only try to blame BAD things on the Jews. I know it's hard to remember when your brain is not attached to your spinal cord.)
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher

Clinton could have saved quite a large number of Africans in Rwanda.
And wait, wasn't Darfur already happening under Clinton?
Hmmm...
"During my lifetime, most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it." - Thatcher