In Illinois, a new impeachment tack

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Citing Thomas Jefferson's A Manual of Parliamentary Practice, Democrat State Representative Karen Yarbrough of Illinois is attempting to have the Illinois General Assembly submit charges of impeachment against President Bush to the U.S. Congress.

Jefferson wrote that there are various methods of setting an impeachment in motion, including "charges transmitted from the legislature of a State."

If Yarbrough's resolution passes the General Assembly, it would go to the U.S. House, where it likely would be referred to the Judiciary Committee, said a spokesman for the Committee on U.S. House Administration.

The Senate doesn't use Jefferson's manual, but the House has it as supplementary to their standing rules.

(strange... read on...)

My review of Jefferson's Manual, especially the relevant portion (section 53), however, reveals no such language. Where is section 603?

Either way, I would say that we that this lawmaker has become somewhat unhinged by her hatred, but the reasoning behind her impeachment drive is sound, according to the article linked above: "This president has acted like an emperor." It's the "BushLied™ to invade Iraq, BushSpied™ for political gain" line.

The resolution will go to the House Judiciary Committee, where I assume the staff will be directed to file it in the bin; but imagine if this were to succeed. In January of 2009, President Kucinich would inherit an office bereft of its Constitutional powers.

Then again, this would then be a good thing. For now, though, we have actual enemies who actually want to see us all – Republican and Democrat, conservative and liberal, libertarian and statist – dead. Our Constitution empowers our chief executive to take action to stop this. We should not be whining about how many people can be fit into a football stadium in Ohio. Leaders should lead, and some are. Some see emperors, kings, queens, and knights errant.

Errant, indeed.

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There's no... by RBMN

...Republican "culture of corruption" but there is a leftist-Democrat "culture of treason."

...can apparently be found here.  I have no idea whether or not they're still in effect; this type of polysci esoterica isn't one of my burning interests.

shows this idea has been floating around for a while on the net (at least since the beginning of the year).

The problem is that I think this was in the original manuals of Jefferson but it is not in the current house manual.

In fact, the main instigator of all of this seems to be impeachbush.tv .

However, what they do is provide the actual link to the House Rules , but then in their quotes about being able to impeach at a state level, they NEVER refer to the actual document but to their own material.

I suspect that this is because somewhere along the line that "state legistlature" provision was stricken, even if it was in Jefferson's orignal manual.

The other possibility, I supposse, is if these aren't the House's FULL RULES.

It appears to be in the document he linked ... however, I'm still not sure if that is the official rules or merely some text about the rules.

As noted the specific section does not appear in my rules.

Okay by Oz

Found it by going down my link as well, so it is in there.

Reading further, it still has to go to the Judiciary Committee.  

I don't know that this changes anything right now.

For all I know they threw this stuff out a century ago, or last week, or whenever.

What's the charge by 10ksnooker

Lying to a dem?

The culture of treason doesn't stand a chance.

What happens if it does by liquidbread

go to the Judiciary committee?

the 2006 elections are gonna be the best political drama for the last umpteen years? As it is now, all this impeachment talk is symbolic. Give the dems back the house or senate, then it's time to get the popcorn.

One simple question by jsteele

What the $%$&^%&$%%@#$% is going on in this country?

  • Treason is patriotism.
  • How many ways can we find to try to impeach the president.
  • US Troops as Nazi Stormtroopers.
  • Legitimize people who violate the immigration laws because there are too many of them here for too long.

What has happened? Does hatred so dominate the left that they are unable to see the damage it does? Are they blind to payback, it only ever escalates, it never goes back in the box.

of the House and move to impeach Bush, he should not even waste the taxpayers money and mount a defense.  Just let them do whatever they want.  Show such disdain for it that they hold these hearings and no one shows up to defend him.  The accused doesn't have to mount a defense if he doesn't want to.  We all know before the start who is going to vote for impeach and who isnt.  

And wont it be lovely, maybe Bush will resign (cuz their will never be 67 votes inthe Senate) and we can have a President CHENEY!!!!!

State politicians looking by BooBooKitty

for national media coverage.  Shameless grandstanding that would make even Hillary blush.  

By the way, can cold blooded animals blush?

Heh heh by jsteele

I think :-(

I just logged on this afternoon and this was the first thing that hit me. I lost it for a second.

I say bring it on by kent miller

The rules of a trial will be in place. There is no proof of a lie, there is no proof of intelligence manipulation, there is no proof a single, solitary act that would remotely qualify as a high crime or misdemeanor.

I have little interest in the parliamentarian wrangling as to how impeachment hearings get started. I would dearly love to see the wheels set in motion to expose the Democrats for what they are, partisans for whom nothing is more important than regaining control of two branches of the federal government.  Let the Dems once again open the door squarely into their collective noses.

The issue will be framed by the Dems and the MSM in relation to the Clinton impeachment as comparing a lie about sex to a lie about sending our troops to war.  An aggressive defense against impeachment will clearly show the comparison to be of a lie by Clinton to bolster his chances in a civil case to which he was a party versus President Bush risking political capital to protect the American people.

As far as being a distraction from other business, I have no doubt that the GWOT will continue and continue effectively and immigration reform is too politically charged to be simply dropped; in all other regards, a good deal of gridlock would be good for our state of affairs.

Prediction by Eileen Wright

If the libs win the House and senate, GWB will be impeached and removed from office.  He is hated with so much convcition, that it will happen.

And they get Cheney by jsteele

Serve them right.

But the worst thing by jsteele

is that it puts Nancy Pelosi one heartbeat from 1600 Pennsylvania. Now if that doesn't make you lose sleep and work your backside off to get out the Republican vote in November nothing will.

I assume, by Eileen Wright

that President Cheney would name a VP rather quickly????

They're also trying it in California, and BooKitty is right: she wants the headlines.  She was just reelected in March, and I assume hers is a psycho seat, but IMPEACH BUSH sells big with the press.

We also have to consider, though, that actually believe this stuff: lying about to finish his dad's work, spying on Aunt Marge, etc.  I don't even think they know why, but I'd suggest that they've been brainwashed by an expensive PR machine

It's drip, drip, drip, drip...

I wonder where they'll be mentally in ten years?

Yes but by jsteele

the replacement has to be approved by a majority vote in both houses. Draw your own conclusion.

and install their Speaker of the House, making it the first ever America coup.

Then, unless there is massive civil disobedience, they will enfranchise the illegal aliens by 2008 and seek to become to America what PRI has been to Mexico: the source institutional corruption and ineffectiveness for decades.

but I can dream, can't I? by kent miller



I wonder where they'll be mentally in ten years?

The only reason I would care one way or another is if insanity is their defense in a treaon trial. I can see it now "not guilty by reason of being a Democrat"

Senate? by beezle

er don't they need to win the Senate too before any of that happens?

They'd Have To. . . by M Scott Eiland

. . .win that Senate election by a rather volcanic margin--it still takes two-thirds in the Senate to get a conviction.  If I'm not mistaken, there literally are not enough R seats at risk to make that happen in 2006, even if the voters went full moonbat.

Well yeah by hunter

That was sort of what I was implying.

If the dems get their way via rabble rousing and fear mongering and take the Congress, we can expect what I just outlined.

I say we should encourage them by The Peloponnesian

If the Democrats want to run on "Impeach Bush!" in 2006, then I say we should encourage them to run as far with it as they can.  Then we can campaign on "See? They really are nutjobs."  That might be our best chance of keeping control of Congress.

regarding the Dem's mental state.

Remember the congressional staffer who was caught spying for Iraq and the MSM found that the only thing of note about her was that she was Andy Card's second cousin?

http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0607/lindauer.php

Eureka!

No worries by Andrew Olmsted

I wish them all the luck House Republicans had when they impeached President Clinton. I can think of few ways we could more quickly get President Bush's approval ratings up again than a Democratic House holding impeachment hearings chaired by John Conyers and egged on by Cynthia McKinney. It might be a nuisance, but it strikes me as an excellent way for the Dems to hang themselves.

 
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