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	<title>Comments on: Fast &amp; Furious: Why the Failure to Submit a Privilege Log is a Big Deal</title>
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		<title>By: Resource</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>http://www.vanity-beach.com/2012/10/reasons-for-buying-a-smart-phone/&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: visitingmdliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>visitingmdliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how &quot;executive privilege&quot; can be invoked if the President himself was not involved, as noted by Judge Napolitano recently.  The privilege is designed to protect the ability of the President to exercise some top-level judgment without being hauled into Congress over mere political judgments; if substantiated Fast and Furious is a much bigger, potentially criminal enterprise.

I guess the rule is: if Ollie North trades weapons for hostages, he&#039;s an oath breaker, but if we trade weapons to Mexican drug gangs, that&#039;s a &quot;judgment call.&quot;  And I don&#039;t even like Ollie North..,..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how &#8220;executive privilege&#8221; can be invoked if the President himself was not involved, as noted by Judge Napolitano recently.  The privilege is designed to protect the ability of the President to exercise some top-level judgment without being hauled into Congress over mere political judgments; if substantiated Fast and Furious is a much bigger, potentially criminal enterprise.</p>
<p>I guess the rule is: if Ollie North trades weapons for hostages, he&#8217;s an oath breaker, but if we trade weapons to Mexican drug gangs, that&#8217;s a &#8220;judgment call.&#8221;  And I don&#8217;t even like Ollie North..,..</p>
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		<title>By: jddrouin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jddrouin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are the Federal rules for Privilege Logs???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the Federal rules for Privilege Logs???</p>
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		<title>By: edintexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>edintexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty much a straight party line vote.  There might be a Dem or two who vote for contempt proceedings, and there might be a Repub or so who don&#039;t, but most of the media will be able to cast the vote as nothing but partisanship as usual, with the blame on the Republicans.

As far as most of the media is concerned, this wasn&#039;t supposed to happen this way.  Dear Leader was supposed to be easily on his way to his Billion + dollar war chest, and re-election.  There weren&#039;t supposed to be any bumps in the road, unless it was Dear Leader and his Administration running over the Congress, states and citizens.  So we can expect the MSM to do their best to cover for Dear Leader and protect their investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much a straight party line vote.  There might be a Dem or two who vote for contempt proceedings, and there might be a Repub or so who don&#8217;t, but most of the media will be able to cast the vote as nothing but partisanship as usual, with the blame on the Republicans.</p>
<p>As far as most of the media is concerned, this wasn&#8217;t supposed to happen this way.  Dear Leader was supposed to be easily on his way to his Billion + dollar war chest, and re-election.  There weren&#8217;t supposed to be any bumps in the road, unless it was Dear Leader and his Administration running over the Congress, states and citizens.  So we can expect the MSM to do their best to cover for Dear Leader and protect their investment.</p>
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		<title>By: tnfriendofcoal101368</title>
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		<dc:creator>tnfriendofcoal101368</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One is that politically Fast and Furious is a landmine for the Obama administration.  First, the DOJ basically were running guns that were used to kill Mexicans; this will not play well in one of Obama&#039;s key constituencies.  Second, investigating the DOJ&#039;s complicitness in the murder of a law enforcement agent is the right thing to do.  I&#039;ll agree that Romney would not fight this one but the Congress is absolutely in the right here.  Now, if a special prosecutor would be appointed, maybe I&#039;d feel differently.  Philosophically, I am not a fan of executive priviledge.  I wasn&#039;t when Clinton used it or when Bush used it or now when Obama is using it.  The President is an employee of the People who elected him (regardless of Obama&#039;s dream of Kingship) as thus he is responsible to provide to the representatives of the people whatever is required except where doing so would be a national security risk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One is that politically Fast and Furious is a landmine for the Obama administration.  First, the DOJ basically were running guns that were used to kill Mexicans; this will not play well in one of Obama&#8217;s key constituencies.  Second, investigating the DOJ&#8217;s complicitness in the murder of a law enforcement agent is the right thing to do.  I&#8217;ll agree that Romney would not fight this one but the Congress is absolutely in the right here.  Now, if a special prosecutor would be appointed, maybe I&#8217;d feel differently.  Philosophically, I am not a fan of executive priviledge.  I wasn&#8217;t when Clinton used it or when Bush used it or now when Obama is using it.  The President is an employee of the People who elected him (regardless of Obama&#8217;s dream of Kingship) as thus he is responsible to provide to the representatives of the people whatever is required except where doing so would be a national security risk.</p>
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		<title>By: attyush</title>
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		<dc:creator>attyush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but honestly believe that all of us should spend more time talking about the economy. It is the most important issue and will certainly decide the outcome in November. The fast and furious is a sideshow at best. While it highlights the problems, it won&#039;t really convince American people of the extent of ineptness demonstrated by the current administration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but honestly believe that all of us should spend more time talking about the economy. It is the most important issue and will certainly decide the outcome in November. The fast and furious is a sideshow at best. While it highlights the problems, it won&#8217;t really convince American people of the extent of ineptness demonstrated by the current administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Ausonius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ausonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure where Mr. Gekster derives his prejudice: feel free to read my previous entries and develop your own opinion.

I stated above that I hope Boehner proves me wrong: I am willing to let FACTS overturn my pessimistic opinions here.

The present facts - as I indicated above - is that Boehner caves in many times to the Dems.  The proof is in the past.

I can agree that MAObama might regret this: I just feel that the odds are that again he will get away with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure where Mr. Gekster derives his prejudice: feel free to read my previous entries and develop your own opinion.</p>
<p>I stated above that I hope Boehner proves me wrong: I am willing to let FACTS overturn my pessimistic opinions here.</p>
<p>The present facts &#8211; as I indicated above &#8211; is that Boehner caves in many times to the Dems.  The proof is in the past.</p>
<p>I can agree that MAObama might regret this: I just feel that the odds are that again he will get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which, in the light of Obama ignoring the Congress on the DREAM Act thing...

Is pretty poetic...

Bringing us back to &#039;the key factor for all manners of our system, is that all 3 branches play nice&#039;... Just like Congress can&#039;t really *force* DHS to enforce Immigration law, Obama can&#039;t *force* Congress to respect his claim of privilege with regard to Holder....

That&#039;s why I was *initially* skeptical/disapproving of the way Issa &amp; Co were handling F&amp;F - memories of Harriet Miers, AG Gonzolez, and so on, and not wanting EP to be rendered worthless...

HOWEVER, the absolute disregard for Congress and the Supreme Court shown by Obama since the F&amp;F affair began, has CHANGED MY MIND...

Congress needs to nail Holder to the wall, simply to re-assert themselves in the face of what Obama has done (especially with this DREAM garbage)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which, in the light of Obama ignoring the Congress on the DREAM Act thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Is pretty poetic&#8230;</p>
<p>Bringing us back to &#8216;the key factor for all manners of our system, is that all 3 branches play nice&#8217;&#8230; Just like Congress can&#8217;t really *force* DHS to enforce Immigration law, Obama can&#8217;t *force* Congress to respect his claim of privilege with regard to Holder&#8230;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I was *initially* skeptical/disapproving of the way Issa &amp; Co were handling F&amp;F &#8211; memories of Harriet Miers, AG Gonzolez, and so on, and not wanting EP to be rendered worthless&#8230;</p>
<p>HOWEVER, the absolute disregard for Congress and the Supreme Court shown by Obama since the F&amp;F affair began, has CHANGED MY MIND&#8230;</p>
<p>Congress needs to nail Holder to the wall, simply to re-assert themselves in the face of what Obama has done (especially with this DREAM garbage)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: checkmate2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>checkmate2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[with a copy to Holder, Acting Inspector General Cynthia A. Schnedar U.S. Department of Justice and Acting Director Kenneth Melson in reference to a whistleblower and inaction:

http://www.grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/Judiciary-03-08-11-OCIE-letter-ask-for-DOJ-IG-to-be-removed-from-ATF-case.pdf

Yet on 5/3/11 Holder said he just found out about F&amp;F a few weeks ago and recounted his story on 11/8/11 to say he probably should have said a couple of months ago. 

I don&#039;t by a word from Holder or O, given the clip above too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with a copy to Holder, Acting Inspector General Cynthia A. Schnedar U.S. Department of Justice and Acting Director Kenneth Melson in reference to a whistleblower and inaction:</p>
<p>http://www.grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/Judiciary-03-08-11-OCIE-letter-ask-for-DOJ-IG-to-be-removed-from-ATF-case.pdf</p>
<p>Yet on 5/3/11 Holder said he just found out about F&amp;F a few weeks ago and recounted his story on 11/8/11 to say he probably should have said a couple of months ago. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t by a word from Holder or O, given the clip above too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) Romney wins the election AND (A) Obama doesn&#039;t blanket-pardon his whole administration, AND (b) the new DoJ doesn&#039;t follow the tradtional &#039;forgive and forget&#039; policy with defeated administrations...

2) Congress uses &#039;Implicit Contempt&#039; instead of Statutory - in which case Congress themselves can arrest Holder &amp; jail him, but ONLY for the remaining duration of this Congress.... &#039;Implicit Contempt&#039; is similar to the &#039;Civil Contempt of Court&#039; finding whereby a judge can jail you until you obey his order - It&#039;s not a criminal conviction, but rather a method of compulsion.... 

However, unlike civil contempt-of-court, Congress cannot hold you indefinitely (Don&#039;t go &#039;Eric Holder&#039; on your local municipal judge - unless you really like the inside of a county jail cell) - they are limited to the duration of the term of that Congress...

Obama has already asserted Executive Privledge - which means he&#039;s basically giving Congress the bird (AGAIN)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Romney wins the election AND (A) Obama doesn&#8217;t blanket-pardon his whole administration, AND (b) the new DoJ doesn&#8217;t follow the tradtional &#8216;forgive and forget&#8217; policy with defeated administrations&#8230;</p>
<p>2) Congress uses &#8216;Implicit Contempt&#8217; instead of Statutory &#8211; in which case Congress themselves can arrest Holder &amp; jail him, but ONLY for the remaining duration of this Congress&#8230;. &#8216;Implicit Contempt&#8217; is similar to the &#8216;Civil Contempt of Court&#8217; finding whereby a judge can jail you until you obey his order &#8211; It&#8217;s not a criminal conviction, but rather a method of compulsion&#8230;. </p>
<p>However, unlike civil contempt-of-court, Congress cannot hold you indefinitely (Don&#8217;t go &#8216;Eric Holder&#8217; on your local municipal judge &#8211; unless you really like the inside of a county jail cell) &#8211; they are limited to the duration of the term of that Congress&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama has already asserted Executive Privledge &#8211; which means he&#8217;s basically giving Congress the bird (AGAIN)&#8230;</p>
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