The Gouverneur Times today updates the numbers in the Hoffman/Owens race in NY-23. Today, November 16, is the final day absentee ballots can be turned in as well.
With three counties’ absentee ballots included, Doug Hoffman now trails Bill Owens by 2,951 votes.
News last week out of the NY-23 election corrider, showed that Doug Hoffman is gained votes as the remainder of the votes are counted. Bill Owens, the Democrat, was rushed and sworn in BEFORE the vote was actually counted, confirmed, and certified by the Secetary of State.
Absentee ballots, as well as other ballots are still being counted.
The original full story here.
Owens should have never been sworn in.

...on a related note, Al Gore still...
Hoosier Economist Thursday, November 12th at 1:33PM EST (link)claiming that all the votes haven’t been counted in FL.
Come on, people. If a count shows Hoffman leading, then we make a deal of it. Until then, it looks like sour grapes.
if you were looking to feel intelligent...
DONTREADONME Thursday, November 12th at 1:50PM EST (link)then this comment made you look like ASS, difference between the two counts was one has been certified the other has not.
If you wanted to look intelligent you should have said something like, “If this count gets close, there is still no sense in contesting it, the 2010 election is so close, it would be better money spent on campaigning for the next election that is less than 12 months away.
See that wouldn’t have made you look like an ass.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
If you were looking to demonstrate your anal fixation...
Hoosier Economist Friday, November 13th at 1:28PM EST (link)then your rebuttal did the trick.
Both Bush and Owens were sworn in. I remember conservatives crying like little girls when Democrats whined like the Right is doing right now.
NOTHING changes until a count showing Hoffman in the lead is released. Until then, stop wishing on a star, Sparky.
My goodness, a banner day... nt
mschmitt Friday, November 13th at 1:34PM EST (link)hoosier economist Eco-010, nice try kiddo...
DONTREADONME Monday, November 16th at 7:54PM EST (link)You just proved that you are a Jack Ass and I do mean the donkey type. Listen kiddo, I can’t believe they let you teach classes? Then I remembered that you probably teach the courses that do not require a positive interger as the number in the 3 digit code. Once again jackass, I said nothing about the vote count, I was just pointing out that you were ass in blue clothing. Hahaha. I remember conservatives crying… Yeah, that about summed you up.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
Next time "hoosier" pick your battles better or add value...
DONTREADONME Monday, November 16th at 8:01PM EST (link)other than that you look like you’re trying to be an elitist. Then again those that can do will do, and those that can not do, teach. Guess, thats the difference between me and you respectively.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
Except nobody here is whining.
Steph C Tuesday, November 17th at 7:30AM EST (link)Swearing Owens in was legal and nothing will change the votes he gave in Congress. However, there are a few things missing in your summation.
One is Pelosi spent a lot of political capital with her haste and Owens’ subsequent breaking of campaign promises.
Two, if the vote becomes closer it will be an indication of 2010 sans Scozzafava and sends a clear message to Washington that we’re mad as hell and aren’t going to take it anymore. Third, is that if Hoffman gets the miracle win from it, then we don’t have to worry about the promise breaking Owens for the rest of this term.
And from that you define it as whining???
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
Really? So...do you have a link to that? nt
eburke Thursday, November 12th at 2:20PM EST (link)“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy
“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior
It was the concession
danasdaddy Thursday, November 12th at 3:31PM EST (link)As soon as Hoffman conceded, the race became uncontested and Owens could be sworn in without a state certification of the vote totals.
That being said, if the re-canvassing of the votes - standard practice before a vote certification, BTW - shows that Hoffman comes out ahead, Owens will be forced to leave the House so that the certified winner can take his seat.
As far as the post about waiting until next year…well, a lot of damage can be done in the 11 months leading up to that election. I’d rather have a conservative in that seat to try to minimize it instead of a Dem who breaks campaign pledges before he even leavers for DC.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
- Edmund Burke
maybe I should have put quotes...
DONTREADONME Thursday, November 12th at 3:53PM EST (link)around the thing HE could have said to be look more intelligent. I would argue that NY-23 vote would have been eaten by another moderate in the D party instead of Owens had Hoffman won.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
just coincidence?
James_Reynolds Thursday, November 12th at 3:52PM EST (link)probably not! Do thay many people actually call in as many wrong totals as they did? It all sounds suspicous to me. Someone needs to check into that.
This is good news and again EVEN if....
JadedByPolitics Tuesday, November 17th at 5:50AM EST (link)Doug doesn’t pull it out and I pray to God he does (to negate that yes vote on healthcare) it is still ultimately a SLAP in the face of the GOP because had he been picked from the beginning he would have WON! He would have had the RNC’s 900K in commercials, he would have had ALL the workers on the ground (though in the end he had the BEST workers on ground, right Hoohah!).
IF he wins it all the crowing will be heard from sea to shining sea from CONSERVATIVES who donated money, made phone call (btw love the accent up there ..heh) and PRAYED (TONS). I cannot believe there is still life but I am thrilled at the narrowing vote totals.
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Hoffman race is over....time to move ahead
Spartan4Life Tuesday, November 17th at 11:58AM EST (link)Based on the numbers in the news article, Hoffman would need to get 80% of the uncounted absentees. So far he appears to be getting just over 50% of the absentees that have been counted so far. That is a statistical impossibility.
Clear that this district could have remained in GOP column had the party not screwed up so bad. Hopefully, they have learned their lesson and will do better next time.