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Bob Herbert, There You Go Again….[Updated]

Bob Herbert needs medication....

As some of Redstate’s regular readers are aware, I have previously written diaries about Frank Rich and Nicholas Kristof. Well now, in part three of my series titled “Get to know a New York Times Columnist”, I will dissect Bob Herbert.

Yesterday, Bob Herbert wrote a column that I felt needed a response. He started out by complaining about MN congresswoman Michelle Bachman (mind you, most Americans probably have no idea who she is) stating that she thought that some members of congress aren’t pro-American enough. Then, in a total non-sequitur, Herbert went off on a tirade about how the ACORN scandal is a “phony” scandal and implied that John McCain was inciting violence by even mentioning it in the final debate (I am not making this up). Well, this was all just too much for me, so I posted a comment on The New York Time’s website; however, my comment never appeared (gee, I wonder why). So, since The New York Times didn’t want to post my comment, I decided to post it right here on Redstate, but with more details and links than I could have used in my original comment on The New York Time’s website. So, here goes:


Mr. Herbert,

There is so much wrong with your column that I don’t even know where to start. First of all, you state that the ACORN scandal is a “phony” scandal. Oh, so that’s why the FBI has been investigating ACORN for voter fraud in more than a dozen different states–because it’s a “phony” scandal and the FBI likes wasting their time. I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Not to mention, you site such a credible and objective source (The New York Times editorial page) in order to back up your claim that this is indeed a “phony” scandal (laughing as I type this).

Second of all, I recently wrote a diary for Redstate here, where I write in detail and use multiple sources in order to explain that, yes, ACORN is indeed a corrupt organization, and, yes, Obama’s connections to ACORN run deep and back quite a while. (I also suggest reading Dan McLaughlin’s diary about ACORN—the link is in my diary).

Third of all, you imply that John McCain was deliberately inciting violence against ACORN members by simply mentioning in a debate that ACORN has been charged with committing voter fraud (which it has) and of undermining our democracy. However, you do realize that these so called reports of violent threats come from members of an organization that is charged with illegal activity, but I digress.

Now, do you realize that there have been ACTUAL acts of violence against McCain supporters committed by Obama supporters (the links are below)? But, I guess that doesn’t really matter because, after all, they are just McCain supporters–right?

Obama supporter assaults woman holding a McCain sign

Obama supporters throw molotov cocktails at McCain sign in a yard

Hilarious yard sign

Moe Lane’s diary about a vandalized home and RV

Steph C’s diary about a home in FL being shot with a pellet gun

Oh, and it’s not just McCain supporters who have been the victims of the “thuggish tactics” (to quote Jaun Williams) of Obama supporters. Linked below are four different videos of first hand accounts of voter fraud and outright bullying and intimidation by Obama supporters, toward Hillary supporters, during the Democratic primary. (If you only have time to watch one of the videos, then I suggest watching the third one.)

We Will Not Be Silenced–part one

We Will Not Be Silenced–part two

We Will Not Be Silenced–part three

We Will Not Be Silenced–part four

By the way Mr. Herbert, can you please explain to me why the media is still busy performing a colonoscopy on Joe the Plumber, or looking into Sarah Palin’s obstectric records, but are ignoring the people in the above videos (or Bill Ayers for that matter)? Do you honestly think that if Obama supporters had these kinds of stories to tell about Clinton or McCain supporters that the media would be ignoring them?

And finally, Mr. Herbert, during the Democratic primary, you falsely accused Hillary Clinton of racism and of running a “southern strategy” against Barack Obama.

Next, in an embarrassing stint on “Morning Joe”, you falsely accused the McCain campaign of running a “southern strategy” against Obama with their Paris/Britney ads. Then again, you did seem to hallucinate and see The Washington Monument, which wasn’t even in the ad, and you confused the The Victory Column with The Leaning Tower of Pisa, but I digress. Below are the two videos of your performance on “Morning Joe”.

Anyway, my point is that, just as your delusions made you see two objects in the McCain ad that weren’t really there, your delusions have made you see a racist “southern strategy” being employed by anyone who dares to run against Obama. Did it ever occur to you (or to your editor) that expressing your delusions might have the potential to incite violence–or, at the very least, divisiveness? I’m not trying to sound melodramatic here, but I don’t think that you realize exactly how poisonous it is to falsely accuse a candidate of doing something as evil as running a southern strategy, or of deliberately inciting violence. I have a question for you Mr. Herbert. What kind of voters are drawn to a candidate that runs a southern strategy and deliberately incites violence? Answer—stupid, racist, evil voters. So, when you accuse a candidate of running a “southern strategy” or of deliberately inciting violence, you are basically communicating (whether you realize it or not) to impressionable young people, ideological Obama supporters in the media, and far-left lunatics that, “Hey, it’s OK to bully and threaten old ladies at caucuses, it’s OK to stalk and harass a plumber for asking Obama a simple question, it’s OK to vandalize McCain supporters homes (and possibly set them on fire), and it’s even OK to physically assault a woman carrying a McCain sign. These people aren’t supporting McCain (or Hillary in the primary) because they have some difference with Obama over a specific policy, or because they are worried about Obama’s lack of experience. These people are supporting McCain because they are bad people. They are not like us.”

Mr. Herbert, as a New York Times columnist, you have the power to influence millions of people; however, with that power comes awesome responsibility. But, throughout this election season, you have abused your power and behaved incredibly irresponsibly by “otherizing” (to quote Nicholas Kristof) people who don’t support Barack Obama. So, Mr. Herbert, my question to you is, are you even the least bit ashamed of yourself?

Sincerely, Susannah

COMMENTS

  • gclaghorn

    Highly recommended. Here’s hoping my recommendation puts this post on the rec list!

    • Susannah

      And, thanks for the kind words. :-)

  • lizzie

    I confess I do not live in a Red State. I vote in New York City, and, out of a 40 year habit, still read (try to) the New York Times every day.

    Excellent critique. Could not resist telling you that Bob Herbert is beyond medication. He ran a very self-assured personal ad seeking white women in New York magazine in 1992, which I answered for fun. He called, then had to go to cover Hurricane Andrew in Miami, and never called again. When he started writing on the NYT Op-Ed page, I could read him as the ‘voice of black NY’ knowing how much he secretly hated being black.

    So, the answer to your question is NO, Mr. Herbert is not the least bit ashamed of himself. He actually sees the world as racist as he writes. The scary part is that he has infected the rest of the Op-Ed page.

    By the way, I am a pro-choice registered Democrat since 1972, who never voted for Hillary. Six months inside Obamaworld has finalized my conversion to Independent, started by the Mark ‘nastiest campaign ever’ Green vs. Mike Bloomberg in 2001.

    Obama’s campaign website is a scary, disrespectful, intolerant place. I am writing this under a different alias than the one I use inside MyBO to hide my identity and location.

    My decision to vote McCain/Palin is based on their character, policies, experience, and accomplishments. Also, I’ve seen too many parallels between Obama’s ‘movement’ and Hitler in their suppression of dissent.

    • PaRep

      & keep up the good fight

      Welcome to RedState by the way

      • janis

        and what kind of a comment is it on a candidate’s campaign that you would have to make sure they didn’t know your name or location?

        Nothing could be more telling that that.

        • bs

          is the only hope to break the NYT habit. I suggest you engage a good counselor, soon.

          ;-)

          • Susannah

            I second PARep and Janis in saying welcome to Redstate.

            By the way, interesting comment. :-)

          • lizzie

            Thanks all, but this is for Janis for noting my fear from the intolerant left who dominate Obama’s official campaign website (MyBO).

            I entered in mid-Feb to learn about him. The disrespect of the comments attached to official homepage posts was overwhelming from the beginning.

            On May 8, official blogpost on Obama’s speech on Israel’s 60th Birthday was hijacked by anti-Israel, pro-palestinian supporters. To this day, not ONE of my objectionable content reports has ever been acknowledged by the campaign. On May 11, I was cyber-lynched by an Obama delegate because I wrote something positive about Evan Bayh in a Group email that was going to more than 200 people. Cyber-lynched. That combination flipped me to undecided. My thought was, if Obama cannot get his delegates to follow his example of respectful discourse, he is no leader.

            Also on May 11, the campaign DID scrub the blog of a pro-Hamas supporter whose posts had been so disturbing that I had been filing regular objectionable content reports since mid-March. The man whose blog was scrubbed on May 11 knew my real name and location from February -and had been attacking me in his posts and Group emails since mid-March. I started hiding my name and location in early April.

            I was genuinely afraid he would be unhinged by having his blog scrubbed that he would blame me, find me and kill me.

            That blog scrub was when I discovered that only external influences triggered action by the campaign. McCain had made Hamas an issue on May 9, the day Obama had to fire Robert Malley for his Hamas links.

            The only nice people in that website were over 50 and/or Republicans and/or Evangelicals.

            Both the ACLU and ADL should have long ago cited MyBO for hate speech. (MyBO’s disclaimer was added on June 3). All of my attempts to supply evidence of the hypocrisy of this campaign to MSM have failed.

            I realized the full scope of the intolerance of the left over time. It was when Brooklyn supporters forced stores to stop selling The New Yorker because of the July 21 cover that I saw this “movement” as similar to the beginnings of Hitler. (I am a private historian).

            By the way, Obama’s fundraising has been a pyramid scheme. I’ve watched wave after wave of supporters become disillusioned over issue after issue, starting with Israel and opting out of public financing. What is carrying him now is simply that he is the Democratic nominee at a time when the incumbent party has lost credibility over the economy. Not that the Republicans deserve the entire blame, but that is how it works in election years.

            As to my 40-year habit of reading the NYT? Their business and Sunday real estate sections are still good.

            Again, thanks for the welcome and the commitment to “be respectful or be banned”. I use Lizzie here because she is my favorite fictional character from “Pride and Prejudice”. By the way -when Maureen Dowd wrote that Obama is Darcy? My comment was that Obama is Wickham, and McCain is Colonel Brandon from “Sense and Sensibility”.

            Now when I attach a comment to NYT, I include “please don’t send me to the gulag”

          • Susannah

            Well, she’s tied with Charles Dickens. Anyway, I loved your comparison of John McCain to Colonel Brandon (who was excellently played by Alan Rickman in the movie version of “Sense and Sensibility”), the under-appreciated, but honorable soldier. While I also liked your comparison of Barack Obama to Mr. Wickham (from “Pride and Prejudice”), I actually think that Obama more closely resembles Mr. Willoughby from “Sense and Sensibility”–the handsome cad who woos Mary Anne with sonnets and pretty words, but is completely full of it. However, both Mr. Wickham and Mr. Willoughby are snake-oil salesmen, so both are good comparisons for Barack Obama.

            On a side note, I remember reading that dreadful column by Maureen Dowd that you are referring to (the link is below). Hopefully, I will have the time to write a diary about her next. :-)

            Mr. Darcy Comes Courting

          • From_ME_to_you

            what do you expect from Maine (ME), pine trees???? LOL
            Portland Head Light med

            Portland Head Light, Cape Elizabeth, Maine

          • Susannah

            OK, I get it now–”From ME (Maine) to You”. Quite creative, I must say.

            Oh, and thanks for the lovely picture (and the cute lobsters). :-)

          • From_ME_to_you

            You know, of course that I really, realy had to fight the urge to start off the initial reply with “OH Susannah!!” ROTFL!!

            Hopefully Vice President Palin will come to Maine and bag one of these!!
            Moose!

            BTW that’s about 1500 lbs of Moose! In a car/moose fight…the car usually loses!!

          • Susannah

            I’m down about yesterday’s loss (and about no President McCain or Vice President Palin), but the moose does cheer me up a bit. :-)

          • From_ME_to_you

            Unfortunately, Maine went blue..again.

            The only semi bright spot is that is that our RINO Senator defeated her far, far left democratic socialist opponent!

            The leaves are again turning and we are awaiting the inevitable winter of our discontent (global warming my a##, it’s cold up here!) in both the literal winter and the figurative one of the next four years of socialist rule.

  • gamecock

    Has Herbert suggested that Obama’s past incites violence ala Wright’s G.D. America, KKK America, invented AIDS to kill blacks, etc…Ayers didn’t do enough bombing…

    more later

  • gamecock
  • Susannah

    That means a lot coming from you.

    Oh, and congratulations on your new found celebrity. :-)

  • kowalski

    Not because I don’t agree with you but because the thought of giving Bob Herbert any kind of space in the recommended diaries is as morally repugnant to me as leaving a case of hand grenades, 50 gallons of gasoline and a carton of matches in a playground.

  • Susannah

    I understand your dilemma. Whatever you decide, I will respect your decision. :-)

  • Susannah

    Pulling a Kowalski while responding to Kowalski, I must add that I understand why you wouldn’t want to give Herbert any more attention. However, I feel that if we don’t call these shysters out whenever we get the chance, then they set the narrative (in Herbert’s case, that McCain and his supporters are racists)–and we lose. Just my opinion. :-)

  • redalert

    Simply excellent. Very well written. The only thing I wish you had put in is a question for Bob Herbert which is this: Does Barack Obama intend to govern by using the same tactics he is using in his campaign? Will his friends in the media and in the “civil rights” groups,label anyone who opposses legislation Obama favors as a racist? I believe that he will govern in that manner,which is why he is truly so dangerous.The reason I put in “civil rights” in parentheses is that a lot of these men,such as Jesse Jackson,have become multi millionaires by pretending they are still interested in civil rights. They are not civil rights leaders. In reality what they are is unelected politicians.

  • Susannah

    Thanks redalert. Oh, and you asked an excellent question. I, personally, believe that you can tell a lot about how a politician will govern by how they campaign.

  • gamecock
  • speciallist

    Good job

  • Susannah

    By the way, please feel free to bring some links if there are any other things out there that I’m not aware of, or that I’ve left out.

  • Susannah

    As usual, you have an excellent way of putting things into perspective. :-)

  • From_ME_to_you

    and he’s down for the count!!!
    5 lobsters and a recommend!!!!
    5 Lobsters

  • Susannah

    Thanks the lobsters–they’re so cute. :-)

  • Husker

    Bob Herbert is one of the dumbest op-ed writers in America with access to a keyboard and a major news paper.

  • Susannah

    For anyone who has already read my diary and is interested, I added Steph C’s diary (in my list of assaults on McCain supporters) about a McCain supporter in FL who had his house shot up by Obama supporters using pellet guns (his diary contains a link to the local FL news).

    And also, I changed out one of my links about Joe the Plumber (the one under the label “colonoscopy”) to contain the latest story about officials in OH snooping through Joe’s tax records and voter registration records. The other link about Joe (simply labeled “Joe the Plumber”) has stayed the same (with the John Kass column as the link).

    By the way, Jaded has written a diary that has a really good link to the local Columbus, OH paper discussing the rifling through of Joe the plumber’s personal records (linked below).

    Jaded’s diary

    Oh, and one more thing. In the paragraph where I talk about the actual attacks on McCain supporters, I linked to Warner Todd Huston’s excellent dairy (under the label “ACTUAL”) about the woman carrying the McCain sign being assaulted by an Obama supporter. His diary is really good, because it also contains a link explaining that the Secret Service debunked the claims of someone shouting “kill him” (about Obama) at a McCain rally.