Addressing Internet Rumors About Reversing Cap and Trade Vote


Time is short and I wanted to get this out there a quick as possible. There is a rumor floating around the internet that House members may have until July 2nd to change their vote on Cap and Trade.

I have never heard of anything like this and need some help getting to the bottom of it. Although a licensed attorney, I’m hardly an expert on House rules and the legislative process.

It may be that some over zealous activists are misreading or misunderstanding some archaic House rule. Even if they are correct, most members have bolted Washington for the holiday, so this would be difficult to accomplish.

Since we need only four of eight Republicans to switch, I thought it worth examining. The movement is gaining steam fast. Sites are picking up on it and emails are being forwarded.

From what I gathered thus far, this Rule is being cited.

Anybody have any thoughts?

[To get a bead on the rumors, just Google “cap and trade” and “July 2” and you will see a flurry of sites pushing this movement.]



RSS feed

5 Comments Leave a comment

I asked the same question somewhere else here

Karina (Diary) Sunday, June 28th at 4:17PM EST (link)

But I haven’t found a definate answer in my searching yet either. I’d be very interested to know if someone has come up with anything.

 

Does this have anything to do with submitting a Motion for Reconsideration?

civil truth (Diary) Sunday, June 28th at 5:13PM EST (link)

…and if so, what is the time limit to make such a motion – and is that what the July 2nd date relates to?

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

I Have No Idea

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Sunday, June 28th at 5:20PM EST (link)

I thought some of the far right sites were being loonie. But I got a couple emails from some credible sources.

No clue what this stuff is about:

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

 

I suggested a Motion for Reconsideration yesterday here:

Achance (Diary) Sunday, June 28th at 6:00PM EST (link)

http://www.redstate.com/congressman_pete_sessions/2009/06/25/our-goal-is-to-retire-nancy-pelosi-by-electing-republicans-who-represent-your-values-in-government/#comment-28

Though I don’t know US House rules well enough to know just how you do it. I do know that you must have been in the majority voting for passage or not, i.e., the successful side, to move to reconsider your vote. It is a good strategy to bring pressure on wavering members. That said, I think the majority has lots of votes to spare; they just let a lot of so-called Blue Dogs go once they got the Quislings. If they do get a reconsideration vote, they’ll have to enforce some caucus discipline, something totally unfamiliar to collegial Republicans.

In Vino Veritas

After reading the cited "rule:"

Achance (Diary) Sunday, June 28th at 6:02PM EST (link)

we can see how fast San Fran Nan is with the old “Hearing no objection …” ploy. I think you can ask for a division of the house on that and can force everybody to vote on the objection. It’s gameplaying, but can be effective.

In Vino Veritas